[sugar] New etoys release 4.0

2008-12-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
* removed/reverted/rewrote all methods not covered by Apache/MIT license * various fixes (#8928, #8929, #8879, #9058, and others) http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-4.0.2201.tar.gz http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/etoys-activity-97.tar.gz - Bert -

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] [Localization] OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

2008-11-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.11.2008, at 08:50, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest you approach Chuck Kane at OLPC directly. If for some reason he cannot accommodate the request, then we should discuss alternative means to deploy Sugar.

Re: [sugar] [Sugar-devel] View Source

2008-11-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 26.11.2008, at 12:07, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [cc'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] because this subject is of importance to activity authors and I know many haven't yet subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please subscribe!] On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[sugar] Activity updates in joyride (was Re: TurtleArt-18)

2008-11-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Actually, there currently is *no way* to update the wiki with the latest version of any G1G1 activity *without* affecting the pegged version. I repeatedly pinged the OLPC list but everyone seems to busy to fix the wiki (and some of the relevant pages pages are locked). The page that 8.2

Re: [sugar] Presence Service

2008-11-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.11.2008, at 10:17, Morgan Collett wrote: Collabora have therefore suggested replacing Presence Service with a combination of Mission Control and moving functionality up into sugar-toolkit and the activities themselves, so that everything is talking Telepathy and not some arbitrary

Re: [sugar] Presence Service

2008-11-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.11.2008, at 11:52, Morgan Collett wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:24, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20.11.2008, at 10:17, Morgan Collett wrote: Collabora have therefore suggested replacing Presence Service with a combination of Mission Control and moving

Re: [sugar] Major differences between releases

2008-11-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.11.2008, at 16:45, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started http://wiki.laptop.org/go/API_changes to track Sugar and system API changes between releases. It's not very comprehensive so far - contributions welcome.

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.11.2008, at 00:12, David Farning wrote: Do you know who I should talk to about requesting that http://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/ be update to reflect this information? Squeak (at squeak.org) and Etoys (at vpri.org / squeakland.org) are two different versions that were last

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.11.2008, at 13:55, David Farning wrote: .One sticking point was the availability of squeak on Ubuntu. If I remember this issue was beaten to death before I got involved with SL. I only remember discussion of getting it into Debian, not Ubuntu. Basically, even though the license

Re: [sugar] Proper D-Bus usage

2008-10-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.10.2008, at 03:30, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29.10.2008, at 03:42, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could easily hack the DS in 0.83

[sugar] [RELEASE] etoys-3.0.2160

2008-10-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
this version copes with the datastore using byte arrays for strings, thus allowing to resume again http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2160.tar.gz http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/etoys-activity-96.tar.gz - Bert -

[sugar] Proper D-Bus usage (was Re: October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1)

2008-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.10.2008, at 03:42, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could easily hack the DS in 0.83 to return D-Bus strings for standard properties that are known (or rather, expected) to contain textual data, but introducing

Re: [sugar] Proper D-Bus usage (was Re: October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1)

2008-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.10.2008, at 09:57, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29.10.2008, at 03:42, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: I don't see how it would be inconsistent that when an activity saves a title meta-data property which

Re: [sugar] October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1

2008-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.10.2008, at 04:01, Simon Schampijer wrote: Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Dear maintainers, the next stable release is the 30th October. Just for the record - it is an unstable release :) Is this basically what's in jhbuild right now? - Bert -

Re: [sugar] October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1

2008-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.10.2008, at 10:55, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28.10.2008, at 04:01, Simon Schampijer wrote: Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Dear maintainers, the next stable release is the 30th October. Just

Re: [sugar] October 29 - Tarballs due for 0.83.1

2008-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.10.2008, at 14:20, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess I should make Etoys cope with the changed datastore interface then. Did the interface change? I think tomeu new datastore actually has the same dbus

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.10.2008 um 14:53 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: Hi, I think that with a small effort, we could implement something much better than what we have today. We have glorious plans for the view source key, but as no resources have been devoted to them, perhaps we should scale back and make sure

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.10.2008 um 15:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: an addition to activity.info, with sensible defaults, would be the best bet, i think. This would mean that sometimes the shell and sometimes the activity would have to handle that key, which is fragile. I'd opt for the shell always handling

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.10.2008 um 15:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bert wrote: Am 23.10.2008 um 15:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: an addition to activity.info, with sensible defaults, would be the best bet, i think. This would mean that sometimes the shell and sometimes the activity would have to handle

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Persistent activity storage (Bert Freudenberg)

2008-10-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 22.10.2008 um 17:58 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to make sure we don't slow down the launch time without a very good reason. Well, how much risk and how much of Marco's, my, and Tomeu's time do you

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] sugar-toolkit bindings

2008-10-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 21.10.2008 um 11:19 schrieb Aleksey Lim: Hello, What about activities in not only Python (or thats not a laptop project! but not not Python project!:). I started implementing basic API for Ruby and realized that it isn't worth to do - the right(and common) way is C API. Thats

Re: [sugar] Dependencies (was [Activities] Tux Typing on OLPC XO)

2008-10-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundling_Native_Libraries - Bert - Am 20.10.2008 um 15:20 schrieb Brian Jordan: How should dependencies like TuxType's be handled? (found list at http://sophie.zarb.org/rpm/Momonga,4,x86_64/tuxtype/deps ) Thanks Brian --

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Persistent activity storage

2008-10-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 20.10.2008 um 21:12 schrieb Michael Stone: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:36:06PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: It would be way nice it also came back to the same page, if you are reading a book Yes, that's also a goal, though it will certainly require activity- level changes. Err -

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Persistent activity storage

2008-10-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 20.10.2008 um 21:35 schrieb Michael Stone: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 09:25:40PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 20.10.2008 um 21:12 schrieb Michael Stone: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:36:06PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: It would be way nice it also came back to the same page, if you

Re: [sugar] (very) Little Proposals for 9.1

2008-10-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 13.10.2008 um 15:35 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: jerome wrote: I agree with this. I was with my (almost) 7 year old daughter yesterday and she was studying scratch with 767 and after an hour of playing around, she told me that she wants to turn it off (the XO) but she couldn't determine

Re: [sugar] [Cross Posted] High res screenshots of Sugar

2008-10-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 10.10.2008 um 17:11 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta: Hello, The Turkish team is trying print sugar manuals and they need high res (300 dpi ??) screenshots of sugar for that. Any idea on how to do that ? Can you tell them that's a silly request? A screenshot, by definition, is limited to the

Re: [sugar] [Cross Posted] High res screenshots of Sugar

2008-10-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 10.10.2008 um 18:02 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - that's what confused me :-S If it's too hard to educate their art department, just make a screenshot and adjust the dpi in PhotoShop to 300. They won't

Re: [sugar] Putting stuff inside the datastore for non-activities

2008-10-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 10.10.2008 um 23:24 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The sugar-almanac has a nice guide on how put stuff inside the datastore

Re: [sugar] Home view

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
that chapter in light of Scott's changes to favoriteslayout.py). -walter On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we're kicking around ideas again ... I have to admit I hate the list view in the home screen. Maybe if it was simpler to switch between the list

[sugar] Home view

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Since we're kicking around ideas again ... I have to admit I hate the list view in the home screen. Maybe if it was simpler to switch between the list and favorites view (repeatedly pressing F3 was suggested, but not implemented) it would be less annoying. But right now I find myself just

Re: [sugar] Home view

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 09.10.2008 um 14:20 schrieb Mikus Grinbergs: So, how about removing the list view and leaving that task to the Journal? It's a much more logical place anyway, the list view is basically a filtered view of the activity bundles in the Journal, right? So if the Journal allowed a filter to

Re: [sugar] Home view

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Excellent idea. - Bert - Am 09.10.2008 um 16:13 schrieb Walter Bender: Maybe the list view belongs as part of the Sugar Control Panel. -walter On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 09.10.2008 um 14:20 schrieb Mikus Grinbergs: So, how about

Re: [sugar] Activities can't be hidden any more

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 09.10.2008 um 11:20 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#.info_File_Format still says: - quote - show_launcher = yes This key is optional. If not present, or if present with

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] sugar and the digital age (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 09.10.2008 um 19:10 schrieb elana langer: there is a very common feeling amongst policy makers and teacher that the XO doesn't really prepare students for the field of IT. There was a pilot project done in Mongolia that was run by the Japanese gov't where they introduced Linux to 4 towns.

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.10.2008 um 11:51 schrieb Morgan Collett: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett: I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for the case when it is launched from Home View

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.10.2008 um 13:49 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.10.2008 um 11:16 schrieb Simon Schampijer: Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett: I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for the case when it is launched from Home View without a document. There was a recent discussion

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.10.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett: I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for the case when it is launched from Home View

Re: [sugar] Journal Object Picker in Read

2008-10-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.10.2008 um 10:33 schrieb Morgan Collett: I filed #8350 regarding adding the journal object picker to Read, for the case when it is launched from Home View without a document. There was a recent discussion on the library list about this, since the show_launcher setting isn't relevant

[sugar] Question from Uruguay

2008-10-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Could someone respond to this: por que nopuedo entrar activitie como estava antes at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Bert%27s_script I don't speak Spanish ... - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] Image Viewer Activity

2008-09-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.09.2008 um 11:46 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Sep 2008, at 17:13, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, I was a little annoyed with having to start up Browse to view images, and since I had done a small

[sugar] Major differences between releases

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I think it would be a good idea for everyone (activity authors in particular) to cross-check the changes in what packages are included in the new stable release, in particular what packages are *going away*: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-8.2.html Also, is there any chance

Re: [sugar] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.09.2008 um 10:06 schrieb Sameer Verma: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an attempt to make the decision-making process more unbiased (or at least more

Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 25

2008-09-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.09.2008 um 15:54 schrieb Gary C Martin: Not sure why but for me SW update is not picking up v25 (I have v24 installed). I checked the wiky Activities page but you seem to have that set fine (SW update looks there by default). I'm wondering if your update_url =

Re: [sugar] Composition -- we've been here before!

2008-09-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.09.2008 um 16:46 schrieb Michael Stone: Folks, We've been over this ground before -- have any of the old bugs been fixed? [...] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6759 At least this one has been fixed 4 months ago. - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in the terminal. It is available, but the window manager does not use it, afaik. - Bert -

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 19.09.2008 um 01:13 schrieb Douglas Bagnall: Greg Smith wrote: What do you think are the most important activities to include? If we're sticking to activities with valid activity.info files, then (AFAICT) we're limited to: XaoS - org.codewiz.XaoS Sokoban

[sugar] Keeping Trac(k)

2008-09-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
For keeping up with new Trac tickets I discovered this RSS feed: http://dev.laptop.org/timeline?ticket=onmax=50daysback=7format=rss ... which only has entries for opened and closed tickets. This is much more bearable than subscribing to the bug notify list. Even better would be if I could

Re: [sugar] Keeping Trac(k)

2008-09-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 19.09.2008 um 19:07 schrieb Gary C Martin: Hi Bert, On 19 Sep 2008, at 13:27, Bert Freudenberg wrote: For keeping up with new Trac tickets I discovered this RSS feed: http://dev.laptop.org/timeline?ticket=onmax=50daysback=7format=rss ... which only has entries for opened and closed

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I noticed in the new help activity there is an activity sampler of 21 activities. Are these going to be shipped? - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

[sugar] [RELEASE] etoys-3.0.2153

2008-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2153.tar.gz * enable Pango for unknown locales (#8530) * fix composite character input (#8531) * fix camera not working in some locales (#8540) * releases sound device in WorldStethoscope (#8541) * preserve meta data in Journal

[sugar] [RELEASE] etoys 3.0.2147 / etoys-activity-93

2008-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/etoys-activity-93.tar.gz * added license info to bundle http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2147.tar.gz * update translation: ja * fix loading project authored in different locale (#8495) * fix opening text files from

[sugar] [RELEASE] etoys 3.0.2141 / etoys-activity-92

2008-09-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
In the rush towards 8.2 I've been a bit lazy announcing new Etoys releases. But here goes: = Sources = http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/ http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/ = Changes = etoys-3.0.2141 / etoys-activity-92 * Enable object chooser

Re: [sugar] Some extra information for Etoys translation

2008-09-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
IMHO the comments in the POT are not explicit enough for a translator to understand their meta nature. They should have examples. Also the phrase could be made to stand out better. Maybe a common prefix, and use all upper-case? PO_LANGUAGE_NAME might alert the translator better than

Re: [sugar] A few questions.

2008-09-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 01.09.2008 um 11:54 schrieb Christopher Sawtell: Greets, 1) Is this the correct list to ask simplistic questions? If not could somebody please direct me to the correct list. Sure, if it is Sugar-related. The emulation disk image question would be better directed at the devel list.

Re: [sugar] PlayGo v2 and v3

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.08.2008 um 10:00 schrieb Marco Pesenti Gritti: Simon Schampijer wrote: Some breakfast notes Hmmm. First or second? :P This is getting out of hand. We are *not* hobbits. [reaches for the next roll and jelly] - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing

Re: [sugar] Landing patches about the network devices UI

2008-08-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.08.2008 um 17:56 schrieb Eben Eliason: The fact that the mesh devices were even added to the Neighborhood view was a last minute hack, and we've been living with it (and confusing people with it) ever since. Have to agree, this causes a lot of confusion. Since the UI is redesigned

Re: [sugar] joyride-weekly: joyride-2230

2008-07-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.07.2008, at 02:41, Michael Stone wrote: Dear world, This week's 'please test this joyride' is joyride-2230. Test group release notes, care of Charlie, are available at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_Joyride_2230 olpc-update thinks that build does not

Re: [sugar] joyride-weekly: joyride-2230

2008-07-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.07.2008, at 17:59, Gary C Martin wrote: On 31 Jul 2008, at 14:44, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 31.07.2008, at 15:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 31.07.2008, at 02:41, Michael Stone wrote: Dear world, This week's 'please test this joyride' is joyride-2230. Test group release notes

[sugar] Presence Participant ID

2008-07-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi, I just noticed the addition of this function to the PS API: • SearchActivitiesByParticipants(au) → o • Search for activities having the given participants. • Returns: the view representing the result of the search. What participant id does this take?

Re: [sugar] Textbook (was Re: [OLPC-Games] Physics -- Newtonian, mechanics.. for kids!)

2008-07-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.07.2008 um 00:19 schrieb Yoshiki Ohshima: I don't want sound to be a jerk..., but a game like Asteroids is so right on the sweet spot of Etoys (take a look at the existing Lunar Lander, and think about extending it with better controls and rotation). Actually, I found it surprisingly

Re: [sugar] Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

2008-07-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.07.2008 um 14:25 schrieb Benjamin M. Schwartz: 1. The datastore 2. OS Updates 3. File Sharing 4. Activity Modification 5. Bitfrost 6. Power management Note that half of these items have nothing to do with Sugar, oo the subject line is a bit misleading. - Bert -

Re: [sugar] Joyride 2201 blocker

2008-07-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.07.2008 um 20:28 schrieb Daniel Drake: On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 19:20 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: I do most of my work with CLI from the Terminal. On my XO with Joyride 2201 there is no bash history accessible in Terminal -- hitting up-arrow at the prompt does NOT call up what had

Re: [sugar] Autosave in 8.2.0?

2008-07-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 20.07.2008 um 12:27 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 17.07.2008 um 07:37 schrieb Bert Freudenberg: Am 17.07.2008 um 00:10 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: Marco has added a session manager to Sugar (in 8.2.0) that takes care

Re: [sugar] Autosave in 8.2.0?

2008-07-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 20.07.2008 um 08:59 schrieb Marco Pesenti Gritti: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for not answering, Hmm? Both Tomeu and me answered. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/016914.html http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail

Re: [sugar] Design Question

2008-07-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 20.07.2008 um 14:14 schrieb Alexander Ortner: +1 for the ring (i am new to open source, so please be patient with me) i know this question doesn't really belong here, but: why was the sugar UI changed? can i find a discussion about this anywhere? the new version lost the frame,

Re: [sugar] Presence Service D-Bus API

2008-07-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.07.2008 um 00:01 schrieb Guillaume Desmottes: Le lundi 14 juillet 2008 à 21:54 -0700, Bert Freudenberg a écrit : Am 14.07.2008 um 05:48 schrieb WikiAdmin: anonymous user 91.179.26.46 edited Presence Service D-Bus API http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Presence_Service_D

Re: [sugar] OLPC/Sugar related MIME Types...

2008-07-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 13.07.2008 um 20:39 schrieb Martin Langhoff: I am going to add some MIME types for Apache on the XO - application/vnd.olpc-sugar xo - application/vnd.olpc-content xol - application/vnd.olpc-journal-entry xoj The above list comes from a bit of Googling about. Are there any other mime

[sugar] Presence Service D-Bus API

2008-07-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 14.07.2008 um 05:48 schrieb WikiAdmin: anonymous user 91.179.26.46 edited Presence Service D-Bus API http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Presence_Service_D-Bus_APIdiff=0oldid=137835 This adds the GetBuddyByTelepathyHandle() and ListChannels() methods. Should we document the PS version

Re: [sugar] Easiest way to run the latest activities

2008-07-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 11.07.2008 um 12:20 schrieb Simon Schampijer: Morgan Collett wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:35, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 10.07.2008 um 10:44 schrieb Morgan Collett: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 21:31, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 09.07.2008 um 20

[sugar] [OT] Re: Home View appearance

2008-07-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.07.2008 um 09:37 schrieb NoiseEHC: http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ Hah! Must. Stop. Laughing. It. Hurts. - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] (another) WebKit port of Browse

2008-07-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 08.07.2008 um 06:35 schrieb Mikus Grinbergs: A reference was made to Gears: My point was exactly that it is a plugin. There are other plugins that are educationally useful. Security. I believe that 'Browse' is restricted as to how much it is allowed to modify the operating system

[sugar] Etoys team visits Cambridge

2008-07-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi folks, many of the VPRI developers are attending the Scratch conference at MIT. We'll fly in a day early so that we would have some time on Wed. the 23rd to talk about issues, future plans, or whatever else comes up :) We're leaving Monday night so I hope there will be even more

Re: [sugar] [SURVEY] builders, how do you build? what do you build?

2008-06-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
and who do you directly work for? Bert Freudenberg, under contract with Viewpoints Research Institute (VPRI). I usually build the rpms. Yoshiki Ohshima and Takashi Yamamiya (both employed by VPRI) do when I am unavailable. 1) What do you build? etoys rpm, squeak-vm rpm, Etoys xo bundle 2

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Add an option for choosing the layout in the favorites view.

2008-06-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.06.2008, at 10:25, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 06:27:33PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008

Re: [sugar] [Localization] Kreyòl Localization

2008-06-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.06.2008, at 19:07, Edward Cherlin wrote: Etoys on the XO Anyone translating Etoys should subscribe to the Etoys list. http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys Etoys is more complex than all the other activities combined, and we are still working on improving the situation for

[sugar] etoys-3.0.2029 / etoys-activity-83

2008-06-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Fresh from the press: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2029.tar.gz http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/etoys-activity-83.tar.gz bundled: http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-3.0.2007-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-83.xo NEWS * Pango

Re: [sugar] Home Design: Free Layout View

2008-06-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.06.2008, at 21:08, Eben Eliason wrote: Please observe the new design mockups on the wiki at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Activity_Management for further details. As code freeze is rapidly approaching and these changes are slated for the August release aside the rest of the

Re: [sugar] frame activation

2008-06-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.06.2008, at 12:15, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, do we have any feedback regarding frame activation and the new control panel option? Is it ok to ship with hot corners on by default and let the users change it if they wish? As much as I hate the mouse activation, I still think this is a

[sugar] etoys-3.0.2007 / etoys-activity-82

2008-06-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Freshly released: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2007.tar.gz http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/etoys-activity-82.tar.gz or, if you prefer ready-to-use bundles: http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-3.0.2007-1.noarch.rpm

Re: [sugar] Second Bundle Commentary

2008-05-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 23.05.2008, at 03:22, Michael Stone wrote: Dear sugar, Jameson, Ben, Eben, and I talked at length three weeks ago about bundle formats and the Sugar UI's data model. I've published a barely-edited transcript of that conversation at

Re: [sugar] Help regarding Sugar on Ubuntu

2008-05-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
The Etoys activity does that already. I'm not familiar with the Xephyr code base but hopefully it would not be too hard to add scaling. Another option is running Sugar in x11vnc instead of Xephyr and using a scaling VNC viewer. - Bert - On 23.05.2008, at 17:07, Eben Eliason wrote: For

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 22.05.2008, at 18:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I uploaded tarballs for etoys and etoys-activity: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/ But the mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 550 5.1.2

Re: [sugar] Missing 0.81.1 tarballs

2008-05-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
to RFCs, but I had never seen an MTA complaining. Here, I updated the zone. Bert, please try again. Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Doh! Bernie? Marco On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22.05.2008, at 18:14, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I uploaded

Re: [sugar] Journal 89 released

2008-05-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.05.2008, at 20:23, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, a new version of the journal has been released: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/journal-activity/journal-activity-89.tar.bz2 Looks like I missed a change in development policy again. So activities are now released as tar.bz2 on some

Re: [sugar] View Source

2008-05-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.05.2008, at 16:16, Jameson Chema Quinn wrote: 2. Separate activities Note that, due to bitfrost/security constraints, option 2 means at least one step through a trusted UI IMHO view-source should be a system-level operation, not an activity. It might be just a different view, like

Re: [sugar] Pippy VS Develop

2008-05-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.05.2008, at 12:51, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: I'm trying to form my opinion about inclusion of Pippy and Develop in Sucrose 0.82. Here is my understanding: * Pippy is well maintained and tested but it's supposed to be just a stop gap solution. For the future we will be focusing on

Re: [sugar] Sugar 0.82 activity proposals

2008-05-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 17.05.2008 um 04:47 schrieb Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Just a reminder that tomorrow is the last available day for the proposals. So far they seem to be pretty much uncontroversial, except for Develop which I'd like to discuss in detail next week. Marco Please consider

Re: [sugar] Release schedule and process

2008-05-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.05.2008, at 19:33, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: | I agree that limiting the number of components released as a whole | brings important benefits. I think that the idea of releasing some | activities as part of Sugar is because they provide services that | are

Re: [sugar] [Its.an.education.project] One2OneMate

2008-05-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.05.2008, at 13:51, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Sounds good, looking forward to seeing Sugar run on it! :-) One thing I was wondering though, why is it so expensive? $399 really seems like *a lot* of money for that machine... Well, that includes a 5 year warranty on parts and labor.

Re: [sugar] f8+ sugar-jhbuild telepathy-gabble problem

2008-05-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 09.05.2008, at 11:47, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Le jeudi 08 mai 2008 à 14:10 +0100, Martin Dengler a écrit : Hi sugar@, I'm having a problem with sugar-jhbuild that's somewhat new: loudmouth is 1.2.3 on a F8 + updates, but sugar-jhbuild now requires it to be 1.3.2:

Re: [sugar] Sugar API documentation

2008-05-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.05.2008, at 11:14, Edward Cherlin wrote: I often do what I call Defensive Documentation. I write the manual I wanted to have in the first place. Nice term, Defensive Documentation :) That describes exactly why I made the low-level Sugar API documentation. It's not so much about the

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Add speaker device and icon by default

2008-04-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.04.2008, at 18:01, Eben Eliason wrote: +mute_item_text = self._model.props.muted and 'Unmute' or 'Mute' This is a tricky ternary stand-in. Very clever. Is it clear enough for others? It's an abuse of Python, IMHO. - Bert -

Re: [sugar] Recursive Signal Loop.

2008-04-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.04.2008, at 22:56, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you check the keep property before you set it, and do not touch it if you are not going to change it. That does in fact sound like a reasonable way to handle it.

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Fix appearance of activity bundles (in Journal)

2008-04-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 23.04.2008, at 21:23, Eben Eliason wrote: if jobject.metadata.has_key['title'] and jobject.metadata.has_key['title']: Seems a bit redundant. - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Fix appearance of activity bundles (in Journal)

2008-04-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 23.04.2008, at 21:32, Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23.04.2008, at 21:23, Eben Eliason wrote: if jobject.metadata.has_key['title'] and jobject.metadata.has_key['title']: Seems a bit redundant. I agree

[sugar] Clicking links (was Re: sugar roadmap)

2008-04-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.04.2008, at 07:12, Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assuming that the data would only go one way. In that case, the permission would be, an app without P_NETWORK would not be able to request opening of apps with

Re: [sugar] Choosing defaults for the activity ring

2008-04-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.04.2008, at 18:38, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: But do let the user be able to control the order in which the icons are presented (this is an artifact now provided by the 650 file 'activities.defaults'). Adding reordering by dnd looks like quite a bit of work to me. Is it really needed? Not

Re: [sugar] generate clean tone to speakers (first prototype of working EKG around the XO )

2008-04-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Also, any Etoys object has a play frequency of ... command (in the viewer's sound category) that plays a sine wave of that frequency. This uses Squeak's FM synthesis and outputs to ALSA directly with no involvement of gstreamer or csound. - Bert - On 02.04.2008, at 13:25, Walter Bender

Re: [sugar] Update.1 RC3: candidate-703 Published!

2008-04-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.04.2008, at 02:40, Stefan Reitz wrote: wget dev.laptop.org/~bert/update-activities.py python update-activities.py -bash-3.2# python update-activities.py (auto complete worked for the command) switching to user olpc ... bash: update-activities.py: command not found

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