On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Robert McQueen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really don't think these kind of comments are productive for anyone.
[...]
However, I'm not interested in participating (therefore I have not done
so) in participating in discussions about collaboration on Sugar which
a)
Re: Scratch etoys: the problem with updating translations in
place is that it doesn't support distributed work on translations:
OLPC might do basic translations; they might be further developed in a
country or region, etc. Each might be updated individually.
Further, you want to be able to
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been thinking of having a separate place in the filesystem for
_new_ translations, and using RPM to manage the installation and
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fedora does not have a standard solution either, so I'm not sure
where you're going with this. We have to invent something. RPM is
not obviously
what the hell? i don't think it's productive to separate olpc and
sugarlabs in this fashion. the whole point of this was *joint*
discussion/planning!
and i also resent the implication that this was closed-door planning.
i posted a *proposed* schedule. we're discussing it here *in public*.
i
-1.
sugarlabs and olpc have the same mission. i think it's entirely
appropriate to have one day devoted to technical issues, with the
participation of olpc employees (who are also sugarlabs members --
even board members). we have monday, tuesday, friday, saturday, and
sunday reserved for
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally I think the way you keep to couple them is *extremely*
confusing. Red Hat people certainly participates to GNOME conferences
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Morgan Collett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 20:39, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sugarlabs and olpc have the same mission.
Yes, but you have to substitute the word 'education' for 'laptop' -
I can't remember which way round
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried, it asked me for a password (no need, I'm good), but just let me
remind y'all that the _minimum_ design constraint for the laptop.org page is
that it shows right on the XO... The current one doesn't (or didn't
In the interest of trying to make room for the unexpected around the
Nov 17 G1G1 launch, I've tried to compress most of the technical talks
into a single day, Wed. Nov 19. There will be plenty of flex time
during the rest of the week to get to topics not covered, delve in
depth, or try to hack
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've
pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1
proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know.
I should have also
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
4pm: Internationalization (Marco, C. Scott, possibly Saymindu by
phone and/or cjb on language learning)
I'm not giving talks about i18n
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more
brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video.
No. Wednesday talks are well-structured, compressed data, idea, open
question and
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've
pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not sure if (a) I understand how Bernie's schedule (Talk:Sugarcamp)
works; but (b) Friday morning at 9am is the only time that works for
Evangelina, who is able to jooin us for the Portfolio discussion. I
don't think we'll
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed
until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on January 9
As should be clear, I'm not happy at all with how this is being
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
of other good projects. I'm hoping that similarly-minded people
will pitch in to make the good ideas reality.
[...]
towards the conference, because I don't have a budget at OLPC. But I
can put $1000 of my own money
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
15. XOCamp: Marco has written three proposals for the November XOCamp.
(I am working on one for the Portfolio as well.) There are many more
being posted on the Sugar and Devel lists.
We're trying to raise money to send
Hi, folks. It seems that OLPC is having some cash flow problems. We
really think it's important to get as many people to the Nov 17
meetings as possible. I'd like to consider asking for donations to
cover travel costs for key developers, like the sugar team: marco,
tomeu, erikos, and morgs.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:01 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
meetings as possible. I'd like to consider asking for donations to
cover travel costs for key developers, like the sugar team: marco,
tomeu, erikos, and morgs. The cost of their travel would be about
$2500. Including
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:01 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, folks. It seems that OLPC is having some cash flow problems.
By which I mean, can't get travel funding approved. Sorry if the
tone sounded alarmist. OLPC is a nonprofit, it's not some big company
rolling in cash
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sure, that's fine. but i think we need to keep thinking about
how to support of non-, or not-fully-sugarized applications with
every new feature we do (as well as with every revision of old
features).
I've got a half-baked idea about
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Justin Gallardo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Over at the OSL, we were able to get new printers showing in the MeshBox,
and had just started working on coming up with some interface for
configuration. We had some hang ups with some of the code used to detect
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can's mdns/avahi help with discovery? it'd be a shame to have to
manually configure a server address or name.
DNS-SD is the Right Answer (which is not exactly the same thing as
mdns). But getting a standard one school server, and a
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Jeffrey Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just set up automatically generated documentation for Chandler's
rearchitecture project at:
http://people.osafoundation.org/~jeffrey/rearch_documentation/
At the moment, the script that builds that (Sphinx) isn't
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to make sure we don't slow down the launch time without a very
good reason.
Well, how much risk and how much of Marco's, my, and Tomeu's time do you
think we should squander on supporting hacks to make activities
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Ivan Krstić
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 22, 2008, at 11:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
I notice that, at the moment, there are lots of references to
'trellis'; I'd love to see some documentation about the exact what,
why, and how of this.
Trellis
On 10/21/08, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*But*, we should be able to:
* Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to
school server via CUP (IPP?), and install a decent selection
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been working on packaging Sugar for Ubuntu, and have looked forward to
what will be Sugar (and Ubuntu )'s next release cycle.
Per http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap , it seems that the first
release candidate
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Recordmydesktop is using /tmp as an intermediate location, which
means that a long screencast runs the XO into OOM (or worse).
export TMPDIR=$HOME/instance
in your wrapper should help a lot here.
* It reuses the icon
Yes, what you've described is more-or-less the plan of record: don't
store any metadata which can be extracted from the actual content, and
use plugins in the indexing service to extract interesting metadata
from a variety of real formats. The few bits of metadata which
can't be representing in
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An OLPC miniconference will be held November 17-21, 2008 at our
Cambridge offices (10th floor, 1 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA, USA)
[...]
Please submit proposals for topics to cover. These may include, but
are not limited
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually feature freeze is 21 December. We might decide to push it off a
bit, but I don't think it will go after 18 February. So I think we are good
in respect of Ubuntu schedule!
Hm. Looks like OLPC will skip 0.84
As described at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_reloaded, I've been
working on some next generation Journal code, borrowing liberally
from ideas presented by many people. I will present the current
status of the work, solicit ideas and feedback, and propose a roadmap
for getting as much as
I'd like to present a few areas where sugar can play nice with
others, including:
* replacing the matchbox window manager, to provide better
multiple-window support for legacy apps (think of the 'gimp', running
as multiple windows without one full-screen activity area aka
virtual desktop)
*
I'd like our antitheft support to be more of a feature which G1G1
users could elect to enable, if they like. This involved making it
much more visible and configurable, most likely putting it in the
control panel. The idea is if you are taking a trip or leaving home
for a few days, you could
I'd like to make a presentation on how our current update mechanism
works, and outline a plan for some improvements.
* Real COW for pristine versions, allowing... ticket #3581
* ...binary-diff updates over http (avoiding rsync in many cases)
ticket #4259, etc
* Integration of core OS
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:54 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually feature freeze is 21 December. We might decide
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can we stop referring to anything non-sugary as a legacy app.
i'd submit that we all use dozens of such apps every day, most
of which are in no danger of
2008/10/17 Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The current plan is to wait until F10 is released (end of November)
before rebasing Joyride onto it.
But the decision to rebase has been made?
Well, I believe Michael,
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apart from the window manager stuff - something I will probably be
working on is support for standard .desktop files - which are used to
generate the main menu entries in standard desktops. Any .desktop file
installed
I'm proposing a talk I really want Michael Stone to give. But I'm
willing to lead off with a short talk on things I'd like to see in
9.1:
* Implementation of P_SF_CORE, P_SF_RUN
* Validating new versions of an activity.
* Mechanism to validate updates to loopholed activities allow
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The way it's done right now is to copy mime information to ~/.local at
installation time.
I know. I personally don't like requiring an installation step, and
I think it might be easier to keep the random bits of XDG
I expect Sayamindu can probably give a better talk than me on this.
But I'm willing to give a short talk on translation things I'd like
to see in 9.1:
* multiple languages, multiple places: translation system
should look in local, then activity, then system translation tables,
then repeat for
I've wanted to see a consistent off-line caching architecture in our
system for a while. Some ideas:
* Integration of wwwoffle with small local cache
* Content bundles to seed that cache
* Mechanism to request downloads later
Basically, I'd like to unify the Wikibrowse activity,
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
I expect Sayamindu can probably give a better talk than me on this.
But I'm willing to give a short talk on translation things I'd like
to see in 9.1:
* multiple languages, multiple
This is another talk I'd really rather someone else give, but I can
give a brief talk on our current status problems desires if it is
helpful.
OLPC has forks of a number of Fedora packages, for a number of
reasons. We've been trying to keep better track of the what why, at
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Installing a content bundle should be almost exactly the same thing as
installing new content into the offline cache, with only some small
hook for making it appear in the XO home page. Much of the fancy
I had a number
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As described at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_reloaded, I've been
working on some next generation Journal code, borrowing liberally
Other ideas from my Journal improvements to-do list:
* Proper display of 'new
We should consider adding basic Print support for 9.1. In the past
this has foundered on questions like, what brand(s) of printers?
what connection mechanism? It seems impossible to support every
printer and every connection mechanism in a reasonable amount of NAND
space.
*But*, we should be
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
c) Language packs: The current system of language packs is not very
reliable (it overwrites the original translations in the system,
installations cannot be easily undone, no versioning, etc). I want to
switch to a
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gah - I just submitted a proposal ;-).
Maybe we can have a joint talk ?
Multiple talks on the same topic are great! There's no problem there.
Marco's going to give a talk on the legacy app support and I hope
you'll
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not a fan of lots of little / characters everywhere (fine if a user want
to type them in the unified text search area to look somewhere specific),
but you could show entries that came (or are) outside of the local
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:15 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The slides from my talk are at:
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/journal2;a=blob_plain;f=journal2-talk.odp;hb=HEAD
PDF version
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Proposal (off the cuff, please poke holes in this): We might beef up
| the HIG in the area of tagging, and even suggest a set of canonical
| tags for various types of content. (Localized, of course.) Combining
|
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I chatted a bit with Eben on how to go forward on the Journal, and we think
it would be good to make it *the* topic for tomorrow design meeting. Are you
able to make it? It's at 11.30 your time, on irc.
There are
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll be giving a demo of some next-generation journal ideas (and code)
at noon Wednesday at OLPC's 1cc offices. I'll make sure to have it
recorded, and you can expect it posted online shortly afterwards (for
all those
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would also like to stop calling this 9.1 planning. We need to plan the
development work we need to get done, regardless of whether that work will
be able to ship next March. At a certain point we will have some of this
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It currently looks like the week of November 17 - 21 is our target for our
planning meeting, so as to avoid travel during the (following) US
Thanksgiving holiday week. I concur with Scott's suggestion of having a
sugarlabs
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to clarify: like our mini-conferences in the past, the plan is
to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so that we all
Are you proposing something like:
17 - 21 Talks and hacking
24 - 25
OLPC needs to work out its priorities and goals for 9.1. Sugarlabs
needs to do the same for 0.84. We should do it together!
I suggest that sugarlabs organize an 0.84 planning meeting, to be held
at the same time/place as OLPC's 9.1 planning meeting in November. My
understanding is that SJ is
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Philippe Clérié [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I notice there's considerable cross posting occuring to the sugar and
devel lists. Perhaps they should be merged?
There's a subset relationship: often sugar stuff is relevant to
general developers, but there's also (say)
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Philippe Clérié [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then I guess I shall have to figure out how to deal with duplicates.
Your reply produced 3 of them. I'm using KMail. If you have tips...
1) install procmail
2) man procmailex
3) search for 'duplicates'
4) ...?
--scott
--
I encourage those interested in Journal issues to attend my talk @ 1cc
next Wednesday, or to view the video of that talk when it's posted.
Most of the journal issues have straight-forward solutions.
Yesterday, I heard from the IT manager for the city of Key Largo,
Florida; his 60-year old
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:47 AM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Stone wrote:
I have decided to publish 8.2-765 as a signed Candidate
[...]
sudo olpc-update 8.2-765
led to
WARNING: You seem to be attempting to download an unsigned
[...]
sudo olpc-update candidate-765
is
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm, this is a really tough subject. I guess that we have to guarantee
some kind of backwards compatibility unless we are totally convinced
that we fix something broken. I think we have to discuss concrete cases,
with
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it would be a good idea for everyone (activity authors in
particular) to cross-check the changes in what packages are included
in the new stable release, in particular what packages are *going away*:
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:45 PM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BUT! after I disabled my developer key and ran
sudo olpc-update candidate-765
, my XO won't boot:
Trying nand:\boot\runos.zip
OS found - No signature for our key
Boot failed :-(
Hmm, two bugs potentially here:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed it on a secured XO with a dev key (that's my usual
machine); I'll have to try turning security off.
I mean, turning the *dev key* off.
--scott
--
( http://cscott.net
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
of an issue than resolving incompatibilities between libraries (The
Gimp pulls in all sorts of stuff and Inkscape tries to pull in
incompatible libraries, such as an old version of poppler),
No longer the case.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sources:
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.82.3.tar.bz2
News: Fix corrupted network-wireless-060.svg
Can you open a trac bug for this and put it in the 'approve for release' state?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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C. Scott Ananian wrote:
| A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory
| traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott, I thought you came to the conclusion that there was no use for
ordered tags. What changed your mind? Was it the abilty to browse
hierarchical systems with the Journal? I also thought you came to the
conclusion
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a
light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal
tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know the hierarchical
world can
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
c. scott ananian wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a
light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a little unsure what the Actions, Objects and Labels tabs do however.
They are alternate views, or ways of organizing, the data. The
action/object split is elaborated upon in the posted Journal designs.
IMO, there is no technical reason why we can't support every X
application, no matter how baroque. Window manager technology is as
old as X. Given that we can, we *should*.
--scott
--
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On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The case of b/a being distinct from a/b is necessary. You may call
it a necessary evil, but in any case is is necessary.
Surprisingly, it's not:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Experiments_with_unordered_paths
I still think
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a bit confused. This is definitely a break in string freeze, and
yet, the patch mentions that string freeze is not affected. Was a
string freeze break approval asked for in this case ?
I think the idea was that
).
Rather than having two separate views for 'hierarchy' and 'journal',
this unifies them so achieve a more consistent and growable
interface: you don't have to discard everything you know and learn a
new metaphor and interface when you start to use 'folders'.
From irc:
(02:18:45 PM) C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marco and I have been discussing on how to make a window manager like
Metacity fit into the Sugar environment, and based on our current
discussions, as well as past discussions, it seems clear that we need
changes to
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah - I'm looking at the way this is done ib Ubuntu, and I think this
can work for us as well. Will we have support for installing extra
RPMs via the customization key in 9.1 ?
Rough notes: (some of this is from
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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We are talking about replacing Matchbox with Metacity in the XO build of
Sugar.
Right, I think that's where you're going wrong. You should be
considering replacing
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if there's only one window, and it's stretchable, then your
decision is easy.
If it requests a fixed size, then you should probably
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you accept that tags can sometimes be ordered, so that a/b is
different than b/a (although both
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Two) to get at the thing you're looking for. So, again, I'm not
sure that order really matters.
Of course, if it DID really matter for a reason I'm not presently
considering, we could allow tags of the form:
A/B
To
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Metacity was provided just as an example. The issue here is that we
want to replace Matchbox with something which would let us support
normal desktop applications better, ideally without requiring any kind
of
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, any hints would be much appreciated as to what this last
remaining setup.py WARNING is trying to tell me?
WARNING:root:bundle_name deprecated, now comes from activity.info
I've not had much luck tracking
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Douglas Bagnall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we're sticking to activities with valid activity.info files, then
(AFAICT) we're limited to:
Actually, we can only ship activities with valid license= tags in the
activity.info files. I don't think many on your list
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lots of discussion -- but I'm not sure how much benefit the Sugar
*user* might receive.
Some users will want to use gimp. Some will want to use metacity.
To me, supporting multiple windows for one Activity is a much
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, of course, I
wanted to switch sugar to using the standard X activity startup
notification mechanism, and the standard desktop
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
String addtions ?? Now ??
Three words: Triangle, Box, and Spiral.
I wonder if a compromise version of the patch might remove all the
words and just use icons for the three different layouts. The words
don't actually
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
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I did a first pass on the planning pages for 0.84:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84#Goals
We are going to have quick, informal meetings in #sugar-meeting at 9am
UTC every morning, to keep
John Gilmore has been pushing us to get our licensing ducks in a row.
The one remaining problem has been activities and content bundles: we
can't legally distribute bundles that don't have a clear statement of
license.
I have added documentation to:
I'll just briefly mention http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7685 (patches)
which includes differently-shaped activity rings as well as a
'sunflower' layout I rather like.
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott,
From Robert Myers:
S Page sent me this:
Browse 95 on 8.2-757 was working reasonably well for me. Today I
ran Software update and now Browse version 96 won't start:
AttributeError: 'module' object has
In informal discussions here at 1cc w/ Chris and Michael, they seemed
very pro- anything-which-makes 8.2 significantly faster. I think the
general antagonistic tenor of the thread here so far has made it hard
to see what quick fixes we could do to improve performance without
throwing away journal
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3.0 MiB + 277.5 KiB = 3.3
MiB /usr/bin/python2.5/usr/sbin/olpc-update-query--auto-s10
Normal build:
...
3.3 MiB + 333.0 KiB = 3.6 MiB python/usr/bin/sugar-shell-service
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On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:47 AM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 19:08 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
A previous message (can't find it now to respond to it, sorry)
indicated that static docstrings were responsible for a significant
amount of sugar's runtime memory
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody with python knowledge can comment on this? Would have expected
a significantly smaller number of objects in the GC:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/sugar-jhbuild/source/sugar$ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, May 7 2008,
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