Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-26 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:33, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 22 May 2009, at 11:51, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, Revisiting the topic of replacing matchbox with a more standard window

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 20:04, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 21:30, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps Maximus from Ubuntu netbook remix may help with emulating matchbox behaviour? https://launchpad.net/maximus We have a trade-off to take into account here between memory usage of maximus and the cost of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS.  But I suppose we can't do much about it. Ugh. That's a ton for a wm :-( Are there alternatives that fit better? m --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it. Ugh. That's a ton for a wm :-( Are there alternatives

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Openbox, the window manager used by LXDE and other desktops, is only slightly cheaper: 7.5MB RSS. IMHO, not worth the pain of being out of the mainstream. matchbox, according to ps_mem.py is 2.5MiB (private) + 430.5

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += cwickert] On 05/25/09 12:10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 12:18, Martin Langhoff wrote: matchbox, according to ps_mem.py is 2.5MiB (private) + 430.5 MiB(shared) with Browse.xo and Terminal.xo open on my development XO after 3 days uptime. 'top' says 9644 RSS, 5436 Res, but the more I use the smap data (parsed by ps_mem.py) the less I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 25.05.2009, 12:17 +0200 schrieb Bernie Innocenti: [cc += cwickert] On 05/25/09 12:10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/22/09 12:51, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: The ISO can be downloaded from: http://people.sugarlabs.org/sayamindu/isos/Soas2-200905212052_sayamindu_metacity.iso You can test the image with qemu (or qemu-kvm) with the following command: sudo qemu-kvm -cdrom

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub menu. But it might be because qemu is broken in Fedora 11. Oh, wait! It was just damn slow because I wasn't using kvm (permissions issue). Now I could test it, and it looks good, modulo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub menu. But it might be because qemu is broken in Fedora 11. Oh, wait!

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-23 Thread Lucian Branescu
Perhaps Maximus from Ubuntu netbook remix may help with emulating matchbox behaviour? https://launchpad.net/maximus I don't really have a say in this, but I'd go for EWMH compliance. Even Compiz could be used in XO 1.5, since it has some 3D support. 2009/5/23 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-22 Thread Gary C Martin
On 22 May 2009, at 11:51, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, Revisiting the topic of replacing matchbox with a more standard window manager[1], I have just uploaded a soas2 build in which Sugar uses (unmodified) metacity instead of matchbox. The image also has the Gimp, xterm and gcalctool so

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:33, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 22 May 2009, at 11:51, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hello, Revisiting the topic of replacing matchbox with a more standard window manager[1], I have just uploaded a soas2 build in which Sugar uses (unmodified) metacity