Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > I think this is a really awesome proposal that would be hugely beneficial > to Sugar. I see a few major technical difficulties to consider. > > 1. Screen feeds and video feeds need different transports. Our hardware >

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Geza Kovacs wrote: >> Thanks for the responses. While I did consider the usefulness of >> VNC-type remote desktop control interaction, which "Multi-point remote >> desktop" seems to be ... > Right

[Sugar-devel] GSoC Karma+application

2009-04-02 Thread Felipe López Toledo
Hi there!. I'm working in my proposal: an educational framework (Karma) using html5 + JavaScript, if you have any chance please read it and give some feedback. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma/application Thanks in advance. ___ Sugar-devel mailing lis

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Geza Kovacs wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Jameson Quinn >> wrote: >>> It sounds as if your proposal is not so much an activity as the ability to >>> screencast whatever you're doing on the XO, p2p

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Geza Kovacs
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Jameson Quinn wrote: >> It sounds as if your proposal is not so much an activity as the ability to >> screencast whatever you're doing on the XO, p2p. And it would be even better >> if the "watchers" had the abi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal of Google Summer of Code

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
I had this idea when I was making the very first mockups of Paint, and I think it's a great idea! Check out the mockup: it's the brush with the little gear next to it, which I always referred to as the "behavior brush". http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Activity_paint_tools.jpg The secondary palette

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Jameson Quinn wrote: > It sounds as if your proposal is not so much an activity as the ability to > screencast whatever you're doing on the XO, p2p. And it would be even better > if the "watchers" had the ability to participate. Chris Ball has already I've put some

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Jameson Quinn
It sounds as if your proposal is not so much an activity as the ability to screencast whatever you're doing on the XO, p2p. And it would be even better if the "watchers" had the ability to participate. Chris Ball has already made a prototype of something like this

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal of Google Summer of Code

2009-04-02 Thread Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício
Hello everybody, I put my GSoC Proposal here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2009/Oficina If somebody has a feedback send me an e-mail (personally or in this list) or put in the discussion page in wiki. Thanks a lot... Regards Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício http://febracev.wordpress.c

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--unaccountably working

2009-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have not made any changes to my sugar-jhbuild for several days. However, I installed the Ubuntu Sugar packages in order to have _something_ to use. Now sugar-jhbuild mostly works. In particular, I am delighted with the new TurtleArt. I can put further bug reports into Trac, and not bother this li

Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:08:09PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: >Schoolserver is a bit long. But it does seem descriptive to me. Am I >missing something about the metaphorical level discussion? Its the >server that lives at the school right? >How a

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Nirav Patel
Geza, Interesting proposal, and certainly a useful Activity to have. Keep in mind though, that Sugar Labs is focusing on development tools and core features more than Activities for this summer. You may also want to take a look at Video Chat [1] for an example of an Activity that had similar goa

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Approaching a Release...

2009-04-02 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi Sebastian, Do you expect another SoaS1 soon? How are you testing collaboration? Thanks, Caroline On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi folks, > > we've a new soas-2 snapshot available for you! This is the recommended > version for today's testing session. You can gr

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Approaching a Release...

2009-04-02 Thread S Page
> Please make sure to report all bugs you come along, so that > they can be fixed in time until April 5th. I noted 2 1/2 Browse problems with this "April Fool's" :-) Live USB on an XO in , I apologize that

[Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-02 Thread Geza Kovacs
Hi all, I am proposing a Multimedia Broadcasting activity for GSoC 2009, and would appreciate any feedback or potential mentors. The idea is described at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Multimedia-broadcasting This proposal is somewhat a variation on the standard audio-video chatting concept; rath

Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-02 Thread Caroline Meeks
Schoolserver is a bit long. But it does seem descriptive to me. Am I missing something about the metaphorical level discussion? Its the server that lives at the school right? I had thought in the US that schools would host their school servers externally, but after being in a couple schools and t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-02 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Sascha Silbe < sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:25:09AM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: > > School, on a metaphorical level, is a place where learning happens, >> where children go every day, form a group, community, play, exchange

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal: Document proposed distro tweaks in INSTALL file (Was: Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Please help distributors by documenting such config options that might > be relevant to adjust for some distributions. > > I propose to use an INSTALL file in the root of source tarballs for > these kinds of notes. I propose to only add

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: version support for data store and Journal

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
2009/4/2 Sascha Silbe : > Hi! > > As my diploma thesis got delayed again, I decided to apply for GSoC and > implement #1 on my list of most urgent missing features in Sugar: Version > support (sorry Michael, but Rainbow only got second place on that list). Hooray! I agree this is a much needed fea

[Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: version support for data store and Journal

2009-04-02 Thread Sascha Silbe
Hi! As my diploma thesis got delayed again, I decided to apply for GSoC and implement #1 on my list of most urgent missing features in Sugar: Version support (sorry Michael, but Rainbow only got second place on that list). The proposal is up on [1]. Feedback welcome (as always), both on the

[Sugar-devel] Naming of XS host (was: Re: Local static page, final call for edits)

2009-04-02 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:25:09AM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: School, on a metaphorical level, is a place where learning happens, where children go every day, form a group, community, play, exchange, wrestle, eat, interact, etc. While it's a good idea at the metaphorical level, "school" has a s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-04-02 Thread S Page
What about the expandable library section on the home page for downloaded .xol's? It's nifty and useful ( http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/574 ). The recent discussion about this ('content bundles and the "OLPC Library" Browse home page') devolved into discussing a replacement for them, but .xol f

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Langhoff >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: My understanding is that we are going to be interested in providin

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
2009/4/2 Luke Faraone : > 2009/4/2 Gary C Martin >> >> And yes, colours do roll through the 12 sets (though that does eat 100Kb >> on png logos), "home" does link to www.sugarlabs.org, and the css rollover >> inverted style matches Christian's design. > > Maybe I missed the discussion earlier, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> My understanding is that we are going to be interested in providing >>> other sugar-specific services than collaboration in a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> My understanding is that we are going to be interested in providing >> other sugar-specific services than collaboration in a server, like >> backups. > > Yes - there's a lot more than

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> Yes, but it's still a misnomer. Nothing about this server ties it to a ... > "Sugar server"? "Mothership molasses"? If we call it "school" and work on that as a loose metaphor -- as we do with "online whiteboards" and "online chat", I think i

[Sugar-devel] Proposal: Document proposed distro tweaks in INSTALL file (Was: Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:03:03PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: >Silly question, so I've added a link to http://schoolserver/ which will >be a broken link unless you are in a school environment with a school >server set to that name. Could distros (li

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 19:53, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> My understanding is that we are going to be interested in providing >>> other sugar-specific services than collaboration in a se

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> My understanding is that we are going to be interested in providing >> other sugar-specific services than collaboration in a server, like >> backups. > > Yes - there's a lot more than c

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: > color-changing logo? Moreover, can't we use SVG (or SVGZ for extra > compression), since those files are much smaller? Unfortunately not. Gecko doesn't do "inline" svg because it is a complex (and scriptable!) document type. At the moment, it'

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > My understanding is that we are going to be interested in providing > other sugar-specific services than collaboration in a server, like > backups. Yes - there's a lot more than collaboration on the XS. Backups, internet access, upgrades, lots

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/4/2 Gary C Martin > > And yes, colours do roll through the 12 sets (though that does eat 100Kb on > png logos), "home" does link to www.sugarlabs.org, and the css rollover > inverted style matches Christian's design. > Maybe I missed the discussion earlier, but what is the purpose in the col

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 19:22, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >> On 2 Apr 2009, at 17:16, Eben Eliason wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Gary C Martin >>> wrote: On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, A

Re: [Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 2 Apr 2009, at 17:16, Eben Eliason wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Gary C Martin >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106

2009-04-02 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > We should really start referring to this as the "collaboration > server", especially if we're going to include it as a link available > in all distributions/environments. Ideally, we'd fall back to some > page which describes the benefits of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary C Martin >> wrote: >>> Sorry to rush on this, but barring objections, I get the feeling >>> this is >>> getting close to happening in the next 24hrs...

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106

2009-04-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Silly question, so I've added a link to http://schoolserver/ which will be a > broken link unless you are in a school environment with a school server set > to that name. Could distros (like SoaS, or XO targeted builds), change the > resolutio

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106

2009-04-02 Thread Sean DALY
remember the URL should be http://www.sugarlabs.org and not http://sugarlabs.org thanks On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary C Martin >> wrote: >>> Sorry to rush on this, but barring obj

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-106

2009-04-02 Thread Gary C Martin
On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary C Martin > wrote: >> Sorry to rush on this, but barring objections, I get the feeling >> this is >> getting close to happening in the next 24hrs... >> >> http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simp

[Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-04-02 Thread chirag jain
Improved my proposal http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis Please give some reviews.. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to implement TTS + highlighting

2009-04-02 Thread James Simmons
Chirag, The phrase "widget from Read Etexts" in Ben's email gave me a thought. You see, there is no "Read Etexts widget". I just use a regular textarea and scrolled window. But it occurs to me that maybe you could make such a widget which combines the textarea and scrollable window, plus th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-04-02 Thread Eben Eliason
2009/4/2 Christian Marc Schmidt : > Gary, this looks great--thanks for resizing the logo. > > It might be nice to have the logo change color, like on the website. Just a > thought. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. A simple inline script tag would do the trick, probably. Eben > > Christian >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-04-02 Thread Sean DALY
let's not exclude the (high) probability that I am confused :-) My memory of the XO G1G1 Browse page was that there was a link to Help, but looking at it I see that there wasn't. I'm remembering being offline, not being able to connect, then.. eventually... locating the Help Activity. What I'm l

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-04-02 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Gary, this looks great--thanks for resizing the logo. It might be nice to have the logo change color, like on the website. Just a thought. Christian On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 1 Apr 2009, at 16:27, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > > Hi Gary--this looks great! On

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-04-02 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Sean, On 2 Apr 2009, at 08:03, Sean DALY wrote: > Looks great! > > Any chance we could have a "Get Started" link under the logo linking > to a help file? I think the G1G1 local page had that? Hmmm, no "Get Started" page that I know about. I did start with the original OLPC page for referenc

Re: [Sugar-devel] relating bug #610 and design

2009-04-02 Thread Frederick Grose
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/610 2009/4/2 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri > Hello, > > So I was wondering, after right clicking on a journal item, the palette > again shows the file name. Why is that? as on most of the standard operating > systems, when ever we right click on an item, we are given opt

[Sugar-devel] relating bug #610 and design

2009-04-02 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
Hello, So I was wondering, after right clicking on a journal item, the palette again shows the file name. Why is that? as on most of the standard operating systems, when ever we right click on an item, we are given options such as open, open with, print, copy etc. Never the file name. Couldn't th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Where to put info on activities under development?

2009-04-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:33:17AM +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering where to put the wiki-pages for activities that are > still > under development. the common practice tends to separate the whole activities related pages between activities.sugarlabs.org(userland pa

[Sugar-devel] Where to put info on activities under development?

2009-04-02 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi all, I was wondering where to put the wiki-pages for activities that are still under development. The [[Activities]] page is really the one where the polished activities seem to go, some projects like the ImageViewer Activity seem to be directly listed as sub-pages under seperate releases (e.g

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to implement TTS + highlighting

2009-04-02 Thread chirag jain
well acheiving captioning or karaoke style coloring in the same window where the text is selected is something a difficult task. I have no idea how it can be acheived. My idea is the same as you mentioned that a separate window containing the selected text from the current window will be opened. Th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-04-02 Thread Sean DALY
Looks great! Any chance we could have a "Get Started" link under the logo linking to a help file? I think the G1G1 local page had that? thanks Sean On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 1 Apr 2009, at 16:27, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > >> Hi Gary--this looks great! One