Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Control Panel Font configuration

2010-02-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:19 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> >>> Really, the problems described here can all be solved by careful font >>> selecti

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Control Panel Font configuration

2010-02-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Really, the problems described here can all be solved by careful font > selection and configuration. Fontconfig allows 'virtual fonts' which > can combine the best parts of a number of font files. Please explain how this solves the prob

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Control Panel Font configuration

2010-01-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
Sayamindu Dasgupta writes: > It may make sense to allow setting of the font as well. While the > default "Sans" may be good enough for most European scripts, it may > cause problems for Arabic, Asian, South Asian scripts, etc. "Sans" > usually resolves to DejaVu Sans, etc, which often carry subopt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Scrollbar width

2009-12-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> That said, at least for the common case of the scrollbar being at >> the edge of the screen and possibly elsewhere, there is a solution. >> Scrollbars could

Re: [Sugar-devel] Scrollbar width

2009-12-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
It's perfectly reasonable to have a scroll bar that isn't anywhere near the edge of the screen. (scrolling a list, etc.) We must not forget this when discussing things like "infinite target width". That said, at least for the common case of the scrollbar being at the edge of the screen and possibl

Re: [Sugar-devel] ribbon, right-click, button bars (was: RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good)

2009-10-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Eben Eliason writes: >>> Another possibility would be to educate children about right click >>> somehow. >> >> On the one hand, I think it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Should we care about non readers and kids with motor skill issues?

2009-10-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Caroline Meeks writes: > True. But all kids matter. Including the nonreaders, the ones going > to schools that are not taught in their native language, the ones > for whom reading is a struggle, the dyslectics. You don't want to keep them non-readers forever, do you? That's what happens when you

[Sugar-devel] ribbon, right-click, button bars (was: RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good)

2009-10-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Eben Eliason writes: > palettes, we aimed to reduce accidental invocation > of them without entirely eliminating discovery by increasing the > delay. ... > I'm more worried about immediately revealing of all secondary > actions, which pull attention from the more efficient manner in > which basic

[Sugar-devel] two kinds of delay (was: RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good)

2009-10-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: > Good suggestion for discoverability, inadequate suggestion for > fast access to the actually rather important information hidden > on the secondary palettes (e.g. disk space availability, battery > status, etc.) That trumps all. There are two kinds of delay. Type 1 is stu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bug 422302] Re: Soas-2-beta: drop-down menu on XO icon incomplete

2009-10-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
Alt-Ctrl-Backspace is supposed to make X stop, not restart. It's the XO that has a bug. (an ill-considered "feature") If you screw up your laptop such that X dies or hangs at start-up, the current XO behavior will cause you pain. You'll find yourself in a restart loop, unable to repair or debug th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] ColorButton

2009-09-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
Aleksey Lim writes: > Another option is that picker should contain only predefined colors > (and maybe one custom) by default and having click-to-close behaviour. > Then if users want to make(change) custom color, they click "add.." > (or so) button and palette opens right panel and click on prede

Re: [Sugar-devel] F11 for XO1 - Fonts

2009-08-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Art Hunkins writes: > My POV: I'm authoring an Activity *today*. I'd like it to look good > on all XO and (other) Sugar on a Stick screens (monitors) *today*. > My activity is entirely text-based, is a single fixed screen, and > fills that screen. ... > As I see it, as far as text is concerned, th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Lucian Branescu wrote: > 2009/8/12 Bernie Innocenti : >> El Wed, 12-08-2009 a las 13:28 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: >>> JavaScript-in-PDF is mostly a joke and a big security risk. It's not >>> something to be relied upon. >> >> It might be useless, but I don'

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to not make a window?

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: >> >>> I am trying to create a sugar activity that wraps a >>> simple X application. >> >> Have you tried using the sugarize code

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] New activity: Arithmetic.

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
First of all, it's wonderful to finally see this activity. Plenty of words in the UI are not easy, starting with "difficulty". :-) There doesn't seem to be any scratch space to work in, but I'm just looking at the screen shot. Can the user lay out a long division in the standard form? Can the use

Re: [Sugar-devel] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
S Page writes: > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> adding an interactivity component that would be impossible >> to have when working with paper-based exercise books. > > And impossible with PDFs. No way. PDFs can be interactive in many ways. First of all, a PDF is pretty m

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to not make a window?

2009-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: > I am trying to create a sugar activity that wraps a > simple X application. Have you tried using the sugarize code? If it fails, let me know how. You really shouldn't need Python to wrap a simple X application. ___ Sugar-d

[Sugar-devel] Google's wave protocol

2009-07-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
I just noticed this: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/google-releases-wave-protocol-implementation-source-code.ars It seems to be something for collaboration, including simultaneous editing. Compatibility could be useful. ___ Sugar-devel m

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity as regular objects proposal

2009-07-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: > Finally, I personally don't like the idea of having activities > (as in applications) in the journal. The journal is for > recording what the user has done. I think that **uninstalled** activities belong in the journal. An activity can be in the journal like any random data

Re: [Sugar-devel] journal concerns (was Re: Planning for Weds - Tux Paint, Conozco Uruguay, Memorize with Speak)

2009-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:07, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Last I checked, the Journal interface... >> >> a. required piles of custom D-BUS code (very painful to do) > > This hasn't been a problem for other dev

Re: [Sugar-devel] Planning for Weds - Tux Paint, Conozco Uruguay, Memorize with Speak

2009-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Caroline Meeks writes: > the 3rd graders. They are the ones who > would test out these three activites. > > I want to check in on the current status I think it is: > > 1. Tux Paint - Waiting for it to save to the Journal > before we let the kids use it Last I checked, the Journal interface... a.

Re: [Sugar-devel] More information on font scaling problem

2009-06-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > In 0.84 Pango knows the resolution of the screen and scales all > fonts accordingly. This means that by using, say 10, the font > will always look good in all hw. I wish this were so. Consider 3 ways to measure font size: 1. number of pixels 2. physical size on the screen 3

Re: [Sugar-devel] I'm looking for a tree...

2009-06-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: > I am looking for a fast data structure with the following properties: > > Maintains an indexed list of arbitrary, non-ordered objects > (like a python List or C array) > Allows fast: > Insertion at any location > Deletion at any location > Lookup of an object by its

Re: [Sugar-devel] OT: determining memory usage of short-lived processes

2009-06-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
Sascha Silbe writes: > I've examined memory usage of long running processes (i.e. daemons > and applications) in the past, no problems. But for my VCS comparison > I need to determine the peak memory usage of all child processes > (combined), which are rather short-lived. What's the best way to do

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: >>Tomeu Vizoso writes: >>> I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we >>> distinguish between design deci

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
2009/5/28 NoiseEHC : > > I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we > distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented > features. If we bring down good design ideas not by themselves but > because of its implementation status, we risk ending up with nothing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
James Zaki writes: > Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers > and recursion with no limits (except for total capacity). It is not > naturally intuitive, like a tree where branches get smaller from the trunk > with fruit/leaves only at the end nodes. > > Empirical

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:54, wrote: >> I am happy to expand this to the list. I have raised the journal once >> or twice before but mainly kept quiet not wanting to be trollish. ... >> The journal and sharing are probably the two central things that >> distinguish sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu > wrote: >> I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. >> >> But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. >> A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the >> properties that regul

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-05-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > Albert -- The page you mention (http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html) says > "I'm told this algorithm is also used in the Evolution and Balsa mail > readers. " Right. That's why I used to use Evolution. The threading was wonderful. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Lucian Branescu writes: > 2009/5/22 Tomeu Vizoso : >> Anjal uses Webkit and the evolution backend and has a cool UI, >> may be interesting to see how to use that code in an activity. Evolution has a long history of eating mailboxes. When a serious bug commonly affects users and goes unfixed for y

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo performance & resolution - Hulahop 200dpi vs Browse 134dpi

2009-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: > The short version of it is that canvas (and image rendering in > general) is hurting lots due to the dpi being hardcoded to 134 > which forces Gecko into image scaling games. Just setting > layout.css.dpi to 96 makes Browse much snappier in general, > and incredibly faste

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 04:44:33AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > >> Sending the docs to cups-pdf for conversion and then talking to Moodle >> for teacher review can be done via /usr/bin/lpr, > > But that would

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Andrés Ambrois wrote: > On Sunday 03 May 2009 06:29:26 pm Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Vamsi Krishna Davuluri writes: > The priority is on sending the docs to cups-pdf for conversion and then > talking to Moodle for teacher review. It is a good idea t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
Vamsi Krishna Davuluri writes: > So, talking to Tomeu, we agreed that for Write and Read using > the gtkprint would be best as both support it as a printing API. The focus on "Write and Read" is short sighted and may lead to inflexible solutions. > Now, the current plan is: > 1) We do journal pr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print support, a few issues

2009-04-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Look, I'm running "lpr" and feeding it Postscript. I'm not in a position to use some Python XML RPC nonsense. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Christoph Derndorfer writes: > I honestly can't think of a use-case for including any sort > of 3D acceleration into the basic Sugar and activities. There's > about a million significantly more important things that people > should be working on before even thinking about 3D (IMHO). One can use a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Microsofts future UI inspired by Sugar?

2009-03-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/3/19 Walter Bender : >> Wow. Looks like they cut and pasted the frame directly from Sugar :) > > That means we don't need to dump it any more? :p Visually, of course not. The frame looks OK. Add corner activation, hover menus, really sl

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
2009/3/19 Benjamin M. Schwartz : > Specifically, there are at least 3 different use cases you may choose to > support: > > 1. USB printer connected directly to the Sugar machine. This is likely, even in a classroom environment. The printer may sit next to the teacher, who gives approval to connec

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Education on the XO

2009-01-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
David Van Assche writes: > Actually there are a whole bunch of examples I uploaded > to schools.sugarlabs.org, the problem we have is of how > to categorise them. ie... do we put them via subject, > via class, via country, via language? I can't see anything there. It keeps demanding an account. I