Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 04:27:03PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > This mail is to ask for volunteers for the Decision Panel. > [...] > Please volunteer by replying to this mail if you're interested I volunteer. > Thanks! > > - Chris. Martin pgp1cNimGX4MP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

[Sugar-devel] What is Sugar LiveUSB (was: Re: [IAEP] SLOBs Position on SoaS)

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 02:54:30PM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: > There seems to be a lack of consensus of what SoaS actually is or > what it's goals (use cases) should be. I'd like to say I see your point, but across the internet that's a dangerous thing to say in the face of the somewhat amusing a

Re: [Sugar-devel] What is Sugar LiveUSB

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:43:53PM -0600, Douglas McClendon wrote: > Martin Dengler wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 02:54:30PM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: >>> There seems to be a lack of consensus of what SoaS actually is or >>> what it's goals (use cases) should

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:37:52PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > Hi, > > >   > If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and use > >   > native packages for each distro.  Some are already being > >   > packaged, and the Python distutils are capable of producing rpms > >   > and debs w

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: > Chris Ball wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm not a PackageKit developer > >> but I believe that is addressed by ConsoleKit and as its in use > >> on Fedora and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu and othe

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:02:55PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> >   > If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and use > >> >   > native packages for each distro.  Some are already being > >> >   > packaged, and the Python distutils are capable of producing rpms > >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:54:09PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: > >> Chris Ball wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 07:01:13PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:47 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: > > The whole point of Rainbow is that what I think you're talking about > > isn't an issue, and it's encouraged that kids share Ac

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 07:06:44PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:53 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: > > Well I meant precisely what I said (sorry to be pedantic). If one > > replaces "rpms" with "XO bundles", it's what w

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 01:03:37AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: > Ok - then the situation is this, then: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ASugar_on_a_Stick&diff=37874&oldid=37820 > > It looks like "the SoaS team" is unblocked I don't see how "the SoaS team" was ever blocked on the thin

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 07:35:25AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: > This is a convincing demonstration of the utter failure in > decision-making. This is overly harsh, sorry. > Martin pgpwsJuO6ML8E.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-deve

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 08:06:43AM -0500, David Farning wrote: > This sets several important [precedents]: > Delegate authority - In this case the soas project can define its > own future. And the marketing team can define its own marketing > strategy. This is not the precedent. Authority has no

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

r Labs >> distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution? I'd like to remind people that _this_ is the original question. Please note the parts: "current SoaS", "primary", and "distributes a ... distribution". I welcome pointers to significant modifi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:07:05PM -0400, metamel wrote: > > All I see is a lot of unproductive reinforcement of 4. "let's talk a > > lot about tangential stuff to the detriment of letting SLOBs get on > > with answering the original question[1,2]". > > Patches welcome. You're replying to one. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:33:45AM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > 4. We will entrust the marketing team with labeling products in a way > that is amenable to all parties, including the users and creators of > Sugar-based systems. The Marketing team is, and has been, responsible for > ensuri

[Sugar-devel] New SoaS build soas68

New Sugar-on-a-Stick build soas68 is available. Size changes: total SoaS ext3 size / change in size: 1442.41M / -248K (change) total SoaS-for-XO-1 NAND size / change in size: 608.73M / 132K (change) Package changes: --- --- soas67.tree.packages.txt2009-09-26 01:43:

Re: [Sugar-devel] New SoaS build soas68

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 03:24:17AM +, Martin Dengler wrote: > > New Sugar-on-a-Stick build soas68 is available. > [...] This is the SoaS-on-XO-1 build announcement - sorry for the ambiguity in the subject/wording and any resultant confusion. The git trunk announcer's language

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Where should we put our mixture of bugs, feature requests and misunderstandings as we develop curriculum

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:27:46PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: > As I work with educators to create and write up curriculum we will discover > problems. They will be a mixture of Sugar, Activities, SoaS and confusion. > There are a bunch of ways we could deal with it. [...] > 2. Everything is fir

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:14:57PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 03:40, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > El Mon, 12-10-2009 a las 22:36 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: > >> Hello, > >> > >> Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we > >> found the t

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 06:48:31PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > I'm adding it to my list of patches that improve performance > perceptions. Is this list available online somewhere? Martin pgpJVkW3DRSoD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel m

Re: [Sugar-devel] Submitting New Activities

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 08:32:49PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote: > Attached is a zip archive that contains both Activities - > OurMusic.activity and OurMusicMC.activity. As David asked you for a copy of what you're uploading, I assume you are trying to upload two activities in one .zip file. The lin

Re: [Sugar-devel] Latest school-ready image for XOs?

On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 12:21:10PM +0100, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'll be spending an afternoon at the Austria OLPC / Sugar pilot project > school on Thursday and was now wondering what the latest "school-ready" > software image for use on the XO-1s there was. I think it ha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:08:54AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: > Can we renamed soas04.zip to soas04virtualbox.zip in future builds? > It's confusing to me because .zip does not have any connection to > virtual machines. Due to a typo in the Makefile the file that was supposed to be called soas*.v

Re: [Sugar-devel] OOM conditions

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:22:13PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 16:58, Richard A. Smith wrote: > > Working the table at the Boston book festival I was reminded how > > painful the OOM stuff is on a gen 1. The demo machines were in > > this state a lot as each visitor would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Terminal.xo patch: do not die if the cwd is gone

On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:08:20PM -0500, paul fox wrote: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: > > Attached is a trivial patch that handles gracefully the situation > > where cwd does not exist anymore or is no longer accessible to the > > olpc user. > > > > frankly, i thin

Re: [Sugar-devel] OOM conditions

On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 04:50:53PM +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 14:16, Martin Dengler wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:22:13PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 16:58, Richard A. Smith wrote: > >> > Working the table

Re: [Sugar-devel] OOM conditions

On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:07:58PM +, Lucian Branescu wrote: > Slightly off-topic, has anyone tried compcache > (http://code.google.com/p/compcache/) on an XO-1? I might if I can get > it to work. Yes. It works very well. http://www.google.com/search?q=compcache+xo Martin pgp7lEo0pz5B2.pg

Re: [Sugar-devel] Soas03/04 Font Size?

On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 06:29:15PM -0500, Art Hunkins wrote: > I've run into a major unexpected problem with both, however: the default > font sizes have been increased so that my activities, nicely sized for both > XO-1 and Strawberry, now considerably overflow the same screens. > > So I need t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 10:16:42AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:10 AM, James Cameron wrote: > > 2. there are missing desktop packages, which means we are taking on > > maintenance of those packages on CentOS, > > Having tried and failed to do this back when EL6 was ne

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:21:35PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > OLPC already appears to be going the Ubuntu LTS route When/where can I read more about what OLPC is doing with Ubuntu LTS? Apologies for the lazyweb request. Martin pgpbjlO0YFNXV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 08:46:15PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: Sugar is basically a 10 year old technology. Sugar is not a technology. And the Sugar desktop's age is less than git, javascript, C, HTML, DNS, IPv6, and lots of other things. If there is one thing I'd wish for pedagogical techno

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Save as

Tony, > On 10 Jul 2016, at 16:34, Tony Anderson wrote: > > It is hard to describe 'Untitled' as an innovation since it is used by major > applications everywhere. There are many things that Sugar does differently than major applications everywhere. It was painful to re-think assumptions base

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

> On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:44, Dave Crossland wrote: > > >> On 11 July 2016 at 10:40, Tony Anderson wrote: >> I prefer 'Untitled' as it supports the intent of the alert - to request the >> user to supply a title. > > I also prefer Untitled, although I'm curious to hear why "xxx Activity" would

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:10:13AM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 10:56, Martin Dengler wrote: On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:44, Dave Crossland wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 10:40, Tony Anderson wrote: I prefer 'Untitled' as it supports the intent of the alert - to request t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

s.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2016 and the video on the "Save As" patch at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcvBH7zzFBo . Tony On 07/11/2016 04:56 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: On 11 Jul 2016, at 15:44, Dave Crossland <mailto:d...@lab6.com>> wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 10:40, To

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:19:26PM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Dave On 07/11/2016 06:49 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 11 July 2016 at 11:55, Tony Anderson > wrote: Name this project. Entry is computerize, refers to the widget. I was thinking of 'entry' li

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

Hi Sam, On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 08:59:55AM +1000, Sam Parkinson wrote: I think that the current implementation of the "Choose a name" alert is fine. It serves as a gentle reminder. If it were optional, that'd be fine. But then it would not achieve its goal of ensuring all Journal entries had

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:52:10AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Regardless of the wording, the alert does not save a document until the user gives it a name. If the user does not care about the document enough to give it a name, there is probably a reason. For example, if I were to launch Paint

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: PR comments on 'Save as

Hi Tony On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:29:16AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi Martin Certainly we can move on and consider how the design of Sugar can be improved. The keep button was valuable, but was somehow 'deprecated' as modern jargon has it. This was the reasoning (from http://lists.sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar] XO identity shared via Browse

On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 11:55:32PM +0100, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Robert McQueen wrote: > > I really don't think these kind of comments are productive for anyone. > > How not? You just wrote a long e-mail explaining *why* things are > fucked, not in the least disputing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] idea for Sugar slogan and name

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:28:28AM +0530, Prakhar Agarwal wrote: > I like this: > "Sugar: Where kids Play and Learn" The one thing that jars a bit is the "kids" - IIRC this is only AmEng[0] for "children" (as the primary meaning); in English its primary meaning is "young goat"[1] and they always l

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Groupthink 0.1 pre-alpha

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 08:37:08PM -0300, Sebastian Silva wrote: > I also love the name, Groupthink [...] *Grin* I love the irony of loving the ironic use of the pejorative name for an API that helps people exchange (by implication) different ideas. This kind of recursive irony (irony loop) is hil

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild obsoleted itself:)

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:53:04PM -0500, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: > > David, > > > > I don't see the justification in deleting these pages > > [1] they are still very > > useful for developers who need to get up and running. > > > > [2] Th

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild obsoleted itself:)

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 05:15:53PM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM, David Farning wrote: > > I have just gone through the wiki and deleted the > > developmentteam/jhbuild/* pages:) > > > > These pages were created in around June of 2008 when jhbuild was the > > only

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84 Release Candidate 1 (0.83.5)

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:28:40AM -0800, S Page wrote: > (I cc'd the sugarlabs lists for repliers but am not on them.) > > Simon Schampijer wrote: > > Dear Sugar Community, > > > > This is Release Candidate 1 for the upcoming 0.84 Release - see [1] for > > more details. Only two more weeks to g

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS 3 and yum/rpm on the XO

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:43:15PM +, victor wrote: > Hi everyone, > > it looks like with SoaS 3 (soas3.img) on the XO, rpm is > broken, causing yum to fail. Just do: echo "%__dbi_cdb create private nommap" > /etc/rpm/macros.rpmdb > Has anyone identified this? Yes: http://n2.nabble.com/S

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] resume by default

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 04:40:15PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 16:22, Luke Faraone wrote: > > On 2/19/09, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> So, who agrees and who disagrees with changing the favorite view to > >> resume activities by default? +0 > > I personally think the change

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

--- Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > things that the activity developers can and can't do As an aside, I yesterday uploaded a simple activity to addons.sugarlabs.org. This activity runs on os767 and soas (afaik). Your post and this discussion made me realize that I hadn't had to think about Rai

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

--- Wade Brainerd wrote: > Backup, a far more useful and achievable > solution to this problem. I don't see how Rainbow, something _working_ and pretty usable on my XO right now, is usefully compared to "backup", a solution similar in specificity to the aphorism "be careful" and one that does

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Booting SoaS on a PC and on an XO with the same stick (Yes, it can be done)

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:54:27PM -0500, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > While browsing the liveusb-creator source on > https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/browser > I noticed that it should be possible to boot SoaS directly on the XO. There are some tools to create a Soas image from either an .is

[Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

For my OLPC/XO-1 laptop these days, I'm using the Sugar-on-a-Stick kickstart files[1]. I want my XO to boot fast, not because I boot it a lot, but because it boots really, really slowly right now. So I installed bootchart, changed olpc.fth to use it, rebooted, and voila, got this chart: http://ww

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO bootcharts

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 10:19:08AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: > These charts are really interesting (and nice looking!). The whole thing > probably requires a lot of analysis to make real gains though. I wonder > what all those calls to 'cat' are in the first chart. I think the first two charts

Re: [Sugar-devel] instructions for flashing SoaS on a XO

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 03:46:37PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: > Just for the record, as I don't have access to a regular F10 > desktop**, I had a quick go trying to use these steps directly on an > XO to create a .img and .crc to test with, but after several attempts > I've been unsuccessful

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 06:00:02PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: > Hi all, > > I was musing on ways to ease demoing for Windows users, and I thought of > something: why not leverage the work done by coLinux? > They already have prebuilt > images

[Sugar-devel] problems pushing to git.sugarlabs.org

Anybody having this type of problem? $ git-push -f [massive notice to users text snipped] Counting objects: 80, done. Compressing objects: 100% (43/43), done. Writing objects: 100% (77/77), 14.62 KiB, done. Total 77 (delta 43), reused 61 (delta 32) error: unable to create temporary sha1 filename .

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-1 keyboard issues, partial setxkbmap workaround

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 02:42:13AM -0700, S Page wrote: > I read that in today's SoaS2 release > > * keyboard layout changes should be possible via system-config-keyboard > I ran this from Terminal Activity in rawhide-XO 20090313 and got a > keyboard chooser dialog. But it doesn't have any OLPC en

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running onnetbooks

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 05:42:36AM -0400, John Watlington wrote: > On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:48, John Watlington wrote: > >> I would expect it to be faster on other processors. > > > > I don't think the processor is the biggest factor. In my pr

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] aslo mockup

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 07:22:42AM -0700, Josh Williams wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I've created another mock up for aslo, that's more inline with the HIG, > uses our color palette, and excludes gradients and rounded corners. > Please let me know what you think. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ad

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation/OLPC > > I am late writing an article on this and I'm not getting anywhere > because I can't boot either of my XOs from USB. I've had plenty of success booting from NAND and USB

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-1 keyboard issues, partial setxkbmap workaround

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 04:26:17AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > [olpc set /etc/sysconfig/keyboard from OFW's data and had no UI for > keyboard configuration] We could just get rid of the keyboard configure GUI and have people edit the file still (and automatically maintain it as you suggest)

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-1 keyboard issues, partial setxkbmap workaround

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:23:39AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 04:26:17AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > >> [olpc set /etc/sysconfig/keyboard from OFW's data and h

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-1 keyboard issues, partial setxkbmap workaround

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:37:59PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > Fedora has a package called system-config-keyboard which is written in > python. Not sure if that can be of help to you. Thanks - indeed, that's what my code is based on. > Peter Martin pgpyY84Z8413b.pgp Description: PGP signatu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non-US non-XO keyboard (Was: "7 Meilen Stiefel" or New Soas-2 image available)

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:39:13AM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > Thanks Simon, I have read the thread but it seems to apply to XOs > only It applies to Soas. > My Acer Aspire One has a French azerty keyboard and boots up SoaS-1 > and SoaS-2, but I can't find a way for it to see the French keyboard [.

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:48:00PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > I have been doing FAT16 exclusively until today, but (if i'm not > confused) the latest SoaS-2 which image failed to boot my XOs when > formatted FAT16 succeeded when formatted FAT32. > > By the way when using the fedora liveusb-creator

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 03:58:20PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > Windows GUI does a quick high-level format The issue is that one will probably significantly reduce the useful lifetime of the USB stick if you don't format the drive in a certain way (which way is unknown to me for FAT systems, though t

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS won't boot XO-1s?

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:35:20PM +0100, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > 2009/3/27 Martin Dengler : > > It's a lot better not to re-format *at all* USB sticks one gets if one > > can help it: > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device > &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Grassroots-l] personal Re: Experience w/ using GPS with XO laptops

On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:10:28PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:24:57AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > >Another possibility is to wait for Sugar to include Gnome. At that > >point most graphical Linux software will become usable. I am copying > >this to the Sugar De

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] squashfs failure trying to convert SoaS to OLPC XO image format

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:03:48PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >> Apr 7 17:12:43 localhost kernel: SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor >> mismatch, trying to mount newer 4.0 filesystem Apr 7 17:12:43 >> localhost kernel: SQUASHFS error: Please update your kernel > >> so I suspect a m

[Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO issues for discussion

Sebastian and I had a discussion about SoaS builds being used on XOs. We wonder if anyone has any feedback or guidance on issues around SoaS builds being used on (the NAND of) XOs, like: * Should SoaS2's software artifacts include a XO-1 NAND .img/crc file? * Should Soas2's software artifacts in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:02:23AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > Christoph Derndorfer writes: > > > I honestly can't think of a use-case for including any sort > > of 3D acceleration into the basic Sugar and activities. > > One can use a 3D accelerator to greatly improve human factors in > the GU

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Calculate 30

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:57:52AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 02:38, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:19:45AM +0200, Reinier Heeres wrote: > > I guess we should include matplotlib to SugarPlatform-0.84 > > (seems it doesn't brake distro releases schedules

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO issues for discussion

David, Thanks for the feedback. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:04:48PM -0500, David Farning wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > * Should Soas2's software artifacts include non-Fedora (that is, > >  non-upstream) bits or yum repositories

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO issues for discussion

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:35:05AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > Of course.  That's why I'm asking these questions, since we know SL > > doesn't want to become a distro generator, but we're getti

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO issues for discussion

Martin, Thanks for your feeback. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:27:34AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > * Should an olpc-update-like mechanism be supported? > [olpc-update is good because it's more robust than the alternatives] Robustness and the fact that "hold down this key during boot to go bac

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Resuming Snapshot Creation

I think you're looking for /home/liveuser/.Xclients: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas/repos/mainline/blobs/master/sugar.ks#line56 Martin pgpiJqKYCrsXk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org h

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Resuming Snapshot Creation

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:29:21PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 24 Apr 2009, at 21:56, Martin Dengler wrote: > >> I think you're looking for /home/liveuser/.Xclients: >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas/repos/mainline/blobs/master/sugar.ks#line56 > &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:50:37PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > So SoaS, Jaunty packages, and sugar-jhbuild on Jaunty all fail in > different ways. Not good. What versions of 0.84 actually work? SoaS works for me. Martin pgpCm4Y72lxgP.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:44:10PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:50:37PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> So SoaS,  Jaunty packages, and sugar-jhbuild on Jaunty all fail in > >

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

mode 100644 index 000..ea8dbb2 --- /dev/null +++ b/src/jarabe/frame/clock.py @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +# Copyright (C) 2008 Martin Dengler +# +# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify +# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by +# the Free

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keyboard shortcuts

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 10:48:08AM -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote: > OK, the grand unified proposal for these, after discussion on IRC and the > above is: > f,j,r,s,v,p,o -> frame, journal, rotate, say, view source, screenshot > ("print"), overlay (unimplemented) > [fjrsvp] = deprecated, but kept for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keyboard shortcuts

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 11:21:45AM -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote: > 2009/5/1 Martin Dengler > > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 10:48:08AM -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote: > > > [fjrsvp] = preferred method for above, discoverable through holding > > alt > > > and reading the &q

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keyboard shortcuts

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:59:52PM -0500, Jameson Quinn wrote: > > > > I don't see how the keys are more consistent - I'll have to > > re-read the proposal and the definition of "consistency". > > > ctrl (and all modifier combos including it): application shortcuts > alt: global sugar shortcuts

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:28:06AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I was hoping the frame clock could be implemented as a device icon > extension, so people could add it, remove it and customize it more > easily. Why is it inside the shell instead? The code (clock.py) is in fact a dev

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:49:05AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:28:06AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Hi Martin, > >> > >> I was hoping the frame clock could be impl

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 08:08:29AM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote: > sounds like there is, but to be sure: it's easy for people to > remove or disable if they don't like having a stopped clock on > their screen during idle suspend on an XO? The clock refreshes itself when the Frame is shown, so it'

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 07:43:36AM -0500, Jameson Quinn wrote: > In other words, IMO this should be two patches: a clock device icon; and the > ability to put device icons in lower left, lower right, or upper > right. Fair enough. > now-I-can-go-back-to-building-my-own-bikeshed-ly y'rs, ;) > Ja

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:01:14AM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote: > sascha wrote: > > On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: > > > > [Clock behaviour in suspend] > > > But I take your point...the answer is: no, it's not easy (with my

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:17:05AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:01:14AM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote: > > given martin's point about the battery level, wireless strength, > > etc, all becoming stale as well, perhaps the best fix would be to >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock to frame

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:36:12PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 10:49:05AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > > I think Sugar should only officially support a clock in the devices > > tray. > > What FRAME_RELATIVE_POSITION would you like it in? > &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on Fedora?

[cc'ing sugar-devel] On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 03:12:59PM +0500, Ashar Iqbal wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:06:07AM +0500, Ashar Iqbal wrote: > >> The PCs I have are not able to boot off USBs. I need to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:45:29AM +0200, Bastien wrote: > - Update several XOs from another XO You mean http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#NANDblasting_an_Unsigned_NAND_Image_File ? > - Run Sugar on a Nokia N800 N810 ok? http://guysoft.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/nokia-n810-run

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] versus, not

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:26:31AM -0700, Alan Kay wrote: > Tim Gallwey is one of the best teachers I've ever observed, and he > had a number of extremely effective techniques to help his students > learn the real deal very quickly Any links for the google-impaired? I just found loads of general

Re: [Sugar-devel] question about sugar on stick

ugar on stick beta" just for show > it, where can I found the image archive something like /home/liveuser/... > where is the image that apear at the begining that shows ths sugar logo?? > thanks again > > Daniel > > -Mensaje original- > De: Martin Dengler [

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.84-on-a-XO

the way -- if we can make a stable/supportable process :) > --A! > > > Subject: Re: [Olpc-uk] OLPC UK Library Update 20090505 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:58:44 +0100 > From: Martin Dengler > To: Christoph Derndorfer > CC: olpc...@lists.laptop.org, h...

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] add clock frame device

(+), 0 deletions(-) create mode 100644 extensions/deviceicon/clock.py diff --git a/extensions/deviceicon/clock.py b/extensions/deviceicon/clock.py new file mode 100644 index 000..7d3647d --- /dev/null +++ b/extensions/deviceicon/clock.py @@ -0,0 +1,325 @@ +# Copyright (C) 2008 Martin Dengler

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [PATCH] add clock frame device

[ccing sugar-devel as well] On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:18:02AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > The below patch adds a clock device to the frame: > Thanks Martin, I have wanted a clock for a long time. > > Can we please have an idiots guide for installation? Unfortunately, you can't yet

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [PATCH] add clock frame device

On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:36:12AM -0400, p...@laptop.org wrote: > is the choice of an analog clockface feasible? it's not like > analog watches have gone away, and i'd think that on a learning > platform, especially, that it would be a good option. I'll implement it as a curiosity (and of course

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [PATCH] add clock frame device

On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 08:10:54PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > A few thoughts. > > 1. I think that we need to show the leading 0 when the hour is a one > digit number, eg. 08:07. Otherwise everything in the Frame is going to > shift depending on the time. Only twice a day. I tried it with the l

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [PATCH] add clock frame device

On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 02:12:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Martin Dengler wrote: >> The below patch adds a clock device to the frame: >> >> http://www.martindengler.com/tmp/screenshot_clock_device_frame-06_a6_a689bf1e-3f34-4da3-afed-aa910ab4f677.png >> http:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Logo

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:54:50AM -0500, Andrés Arrieta Perréard wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to modify the logo on soas that says "Sugar" at the boot. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-May/014230.html > Alphinux Martin pgpAlyrWoaaIP.pgp Description: PGP signature _

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