Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundling plugins with Browse

2008-12-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 09.12.2008, at 18:49, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/Browse-99.xo seems to be working for me. Please test. Attached is the patch which did the trick. Ugh. Why is it necessary to copy the plugin to $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/ data ? That would only make sense if it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.01.2009, at 05:24, John Watlington wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Currently Sugar is incapable of running software which is not specifically designed for it. Sugar runs simpler SWF applications just fine, through the Browser. They don't have to be designed for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Cerebro v3.0: File sharing and buddy management made easy!

2009-01-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.01.2009, at 04:18, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: Wow - this looks cool :) Is this a blessed dependency for Sugar 0.84 ? Also, are there any Sugar activities which is already using this ? Not

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] idea for Sugar slogan and name

2009-01-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I guess Bryan thinks of it as a play on Mathland (in Papert's sense, not the curriculum of the same name). The name of squeakland.org was inspired by the same idea: What would happen if children who can’t do math grew up in Mathland, a place that is to math what France is to French? --S.P.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project

Re: [Sugar-devel] .rpms vs .xos for Activity packaging

2009-01-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.01.2009, at 17:44, l...@faraone.cc wrote: On 1/12/09, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:43:01PM -0500, l...@faraone.cc wrote: On 1/11/09, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, Some thought after reading

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.01.2009, at 17:55, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:38, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.01.2009, at 19:30, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: And I just checked and it does work with Etoys projects. When downloading one it indeed gets an etoys icon (although at a smaller size - why is that?) No idea, though I think that the mime database is updated in the etoys rpm and not in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.01.2009, at 06:55, Philipp Kocher wrote: Thanks Tomeu to lead me to the /home/olpc/.local directory. However, the mimetypes.xml is not necessary to get the icon in the journal. I just had to copy the scratch icon file in the activity directory to application-x-scratch-project.svg

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.01.2009, at 17:22, Eben Eliason wrote: /usr/share/icons/sugar/scalable/mimetypes/application-x-squake- project.svg. Interesting ... thanks for the archaeology :) Eben: see, I did remember correctly there was an icon for the document independent of the activity ;) Indeed.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.01.2009, at 19:14, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 13.01.2009, at 17:22, Eben Eliason wrote: /usr/share/icons/sugar/scalable/mimetypes/application-x-squake- project.svg. Interesting ... thanks

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.01.2009, at 13:55, John Maloney wrote: Hi, Phillip. Re: There is a bug in Scratch version 12. The symbolic link of the Project directory doesn't get created (Open Projects shows Scratch.activity folder instead). I checked the scripts (scratch-activity and scratch-wrapper) but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Extensive jhbuild refactoring landed

2009-01-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.01.2009, at 02:31, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Hello, I landed David work on jhbuild. Please do a clean build and report any issue you run into. David, I guess we should remove the slo-buildbot repository to avoid confusion and switch the buildbot to use sugar-jhbuild. David

Re: [Sugar-devel] programming on thin ice

2009-01-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.01.2009, at 09:38, Morgan Collett wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 04:59, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Walter Bender wrote: (1) A simple idea I am exploring are to allow Turtle Art users to enter simple Python

Re: [Sugar-devel] #370 HIGH: Can't open pdf after downloading from Browsev103 using Readv52

2009-02-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.02.2009, at 10:14, Bryan Berry wrote: OLPC's 0.82.1 release There is no such thing. OLPC's upcoming release is 8.2.1 which ships Sugar 0.82 (e.g sugar- base-0.82.2, sugar-toolkit-0.82.11). OLPC released 9.1 was supposed to have Sugar 0.84. The common digits 8 and 2 in the stable

Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys - service move?

2009-02-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.02.2009, at 12:02, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi Bert, did you guys talked/decided about moving the git repo and trac infrastructure to Sugar Labs services already? We did, but progress is a bit slow. Is there any reason to hurry? IMHO it would be best take this as an opportunity to

Re: [Sugar-devel] pointers to information on Python modules for collaboration

2009-02-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.02.2009, at 20:18, Morgan Collett wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 17:57, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: You may want to start by looking at the Almanac: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DelopmentTeam/Almanac/Sugar.presence See also the following links which I have yet to move

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Reduce default emulator resolution to 1024x768

2009-02-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.02.2009, at 15:53, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: +DEFAULT_WIDTH = 1024 +DEFAULT_HEIGHT = 768 How about adjusting that patch to keep old values by default, but provide commandline arguments and perhaps let environment variables overrid default too)? That would

Re: [Sugar-devel] resume by default

2009-02-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.02.2009, at 16:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi all, as you may know, we recently added a change to the favorites view that makes easier to resume existing instances instead of always launching new ones. This option is disabled by default and users need to go to a palette and guess what

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Reduce default emulator resolution to 1024x768

2009-02-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.02.2009, at 17:21, Luke Faraone wrote: Anyway, I would like to try again, hopefully more clear this time, with this related thought of mine: It would be nice if the default - whatever it is, was expressed not inside the code but in a way that it could be changed per machine. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi Carol, you make it sound as if Rainbow was new and unknown and Michael was pushing it. That's a bit unfair. Rainbow has been shipping in the OLPC releases for quite a while, and activity authors in general do know that they simply have to respect the designated directories for saving

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.02.2009, at 20:43, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:29:57PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: I'm not clear why Sugar needs more protection from rogue activities than a normal desktop environment has from rogue applications. It's not that Sugar needs more protection than

Re: [Sugar-devel] move Low-level_Activity_API to the SLs wiki

2009-03-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.03.2009, at 13:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi David, Bert and Wade, should we move http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Low-level_Activity_API to the SLs wiki? Yes. - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2206

2009-03-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2206.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-100.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2206-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-100.xo ==

[Sugar-devel] Easier X app sugarization (was Fwd: Making activities close from the sugar frame)

2009-03-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
start from terminal a normal X app and clicking on the Close option in the palette will close it properly (should be the equivalent to clicking the X button in most window decorations). HTH, Tomeu On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:45, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: If generalized

Re: [Sugar-devel] testers wanted: grab keys, and touchpad rotation

2009-03-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.03.2009, at 22:25, Paul Fox wrote: last week i announced a daemon that would activate the grab keys on the XO keyboard. a day or two later there was a thread about how it would be nice if the action of the touchpad rotated with the screen (in much the same way that the dpad keys do).

Re: [Sugar-devel] testers wanted: grab keys, and touchpad rotation

2009-03-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.03.2009, at 23:24, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 04.03.2009, at 22:25, Paul Fox wrote: last week i announced a daemon that would activate the grab keys on the XO keyboard. a day or two later there was a thread about how it would be nice if the action of the touchpad rotated

Re: [Sugar-devel] testers wanted: grab keys, and touchpad rotation

2009-03-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.03.2009, at 23:49, p...@laptop.org wrote: bert wrote: Just tried it on my XO at build 800 - works like a charm, both the scrolling and rotation. Yay! great! The only nit I have to pick is the inverted direction of scrolling. With both a scroll-wheel and my MacBook's two-finger

Re: [Sugar-devel] The Road to SoaS-2: A new Snapshot!

2009-03-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.03.2009, at 20:58, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi folks, a new soas-2 snapshot is ready for you! Go and grab it NOW from here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas-200903041854.iso It's important for us to get as much feedback as possible now, since with the recent

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS-2] Feature Complete? Another Snapshot.

2009-03-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.03.2009, at 20:33, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi folks, there's another snapshot of soas-2 ready for testing! There will be another snapshot on this Sunday to have an up2date image for bug triaging sessions. It's really important for us to get as much feedback as possible in this

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (12 March, 2009 - 16.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-03-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.03.2009, at 15:05, Simon Schampijer wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: Hey! let's meet tomorrow (12 March) for another developers meeting. AGENDA: a) 0.84.1 - How are we doing? b) 0.86 Planning - How are we doing? Regards, Simon PS: Watch out the new time. First we triage bugs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] 0.84 Activity Release Notes

2009-03-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.03.2009, at 15:13, Simon Schampijer wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: Dear Activity Maintainers, for the 0.84 Release notes I need your help. It would be awesome to get detailed notes for each activity. Definitely the Fructose ones - as well the Honey activities are welcome.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Etoys] [ANNOUNCE] FreeCell activity

2009-03-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.03.2009, at 23:49, karl ramberg wrote: On 3/10/09, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4054 There are some rough edges, so here is a few suggestions: 1 disable halos, menus and lock background so it cant be picked up. 2 Help

Re: [Sugar-devel] Quick run through of Activities on Soas2-200903061846

2009-03-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.03.2009, at 05:18, Gary C Martin wrote: Environment: VirtualBoxVM running on an Intel Mac SoaS: Soas2-200903061846 Build: Fedora release 10.91 (Rawhide) Sugar: 0.84.0 I tried this again, in WMWare Fusion on Mac. On first boot, I got the no loop device found error. On second boot, it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Home Activity resume issues still in Soas2-200903061846?

2009-03-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.03.2009, at 10:08, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 05:28, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi folks, Just wondered if the auto resume from home is meant to be fixed now in Soas2-200903061846? I saw the patches from Tomeu go past quite a while ago. For me

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.03.2009, at 21:12, Dave Bauer wrote: Ok, I was able to take the Virtualbox VM and conver it to run in Parallels, but its not easy and you definitely need to install the Parallels Tools. I also have created a new Parallels native VM based on SoaS slightly modifying the instructions

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS-2] Another Snapshot!

2009-03-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.03.2009, at 14:59, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 14.03.2009, at 00:07, Gary C Martin wrote: On 13 Mar 2009, at 20:10, Caroline Meeks wrote: I am getting a grey screen on the two computers I've tried it on. FWIW: It's booting fine here on a Mac using Sun's

[Sugar-devel] Etoys packaging (was: SugarPlatform-0.84.0 on Mandriva)

2009-03-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 16.03.2009, at 12:45, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:11:05PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: One minor issue I see with this packaging is that etoys is technically part of glucose, but you packaged it as part of fructose (as etoys- activity). If someone was to only install

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Sugarize KDEEdu activity

2009-03-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
at 1:47 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 24.03.2009, at 06:16, Huda Sammour wrote: hi all, I wnat to apply for Sugarize KDEEdu activity project. I am planning to write a proposal for it, but I need some confirmations. does Sugarize an activity mean to develop an application

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2212

2009-04-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2212.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-101.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2212-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-101.xo ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

2009-04-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.04.2009, at 00:17, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200904031934.iso This does not boot in VMWare Fusion. It stops after writing out initrd. 0..ready. - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing

[Sugar-devel] Sound in SoaS

2009-04-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.04.2009, at 06:41, Milan Zimmermann wrote: - [Etoys-Sugar-0.84-OLPC] Soas-2009040110. Played on OLPC from a stick. No sound .using either -vm-sound-OSS or vm-sound-ALSA in /usr/ bin/etoys. This seems problem with Sugar, not Etoys. The driver is loaded yet I do not hear any sound in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sound in SoaS

2009-04-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.04.2009, at 11:38, Caroline Meeks wrote: The SoaS-Beta that came out on Thursday afternoon had some sound fixes. AFAIK it only added the missing gst-speech plugin for Speak, no? Any other changes? Too bad there is no change log. - Bert -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sound in SoaS

2009-04-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.04.2009, at 12:46, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:54:25AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 11.04.2009, at 11:38, Caroline Meeks wrote: The SoaS-Beta that came out on Thursday afternoon had some sound fixes. AFAIK it only added the missing gst-speech plugin for Speak

Re: [Sugar-devel] Missing .po files in Etoys?

2009-04-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.04.2009, at 13:19, Bastien wrote: While building sugar from sugar-jhbuild I got this error: , | + cp po/zh_TW/etoys.po Content/po/etoys/zh_TW.po | cp: ne peut créer le fichier régulier `Content/po/etoys/zh_TW.po': Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type | make: *** [Content/po]

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity for proof of concept [KARMA]

2009-04-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.04.2009, at 11:10, roshan karki wrote: Hello, I'm Roshan Karki. Bryan must have told you about the activity for proof of concept. Here, I'm trying to tell you more about the activity and the reason for choosing it. You can get the activity from

[Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?

2009-04-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.04.2009, at 15:33, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: #795: Lack of setup.py in Etoys-101.tar.gz Ticket URL: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/795#comment:3 So the fix is to include this three-line script: #!/usr/bin/python from sugar.activity import bundlebuilder bundlebuilder.start() That does not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?

2009-04-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.04.2009, at 15:49, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 03:43:37PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.04.2009, at 15:33, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: #795: Lack of setup.py in Etoys-101.tar.gz Ticket URL: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/795#comment:3 So the fix is to include

Re: [Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?

2009-04-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.04.2009, at 16:22, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 16:16, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 28.04.2009, at 15:49, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 03:43:37PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.04.2009, at 15:33, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: #795

Re: [Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?

2009-04-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.04.2009, at 16:36, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 16:30, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 28.04.2009, at 16:22, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 16:16, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 28.04.2009, at 15:49, Aleksey Lim wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?

2009-04-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.04.2009, at 17:34, Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:30, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: That would make sense. In fact, I previously made a mkDist.py script (in the etoys repo) that would call the bundle builder to create an xo bundle. It sets the dist_dir

Re: [Sugar-devel] Why setup.py?

2009-05-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.04.2009, at 19:42, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.04.2009, at 17:34, Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:30, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: That would make sense. In fact, I previously made a mkDist.py script (in the etoys repo) that would call the bundle

Re: [Sugar-devel] Limiting Object Chooser to specified MIME types

2009-05-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.05.2009, at 17:03, James Simmons wrote: Aleksey, I was interested in your comment about wrapping Object Chooser for backward compatibility. Currently both of my Activities use Object Chooser, but don't make any attempt to limit what Journal entries can be chosen. I would like

Re: [Sugar-devel] Limiting Object Chooser to specified MIME types

2009-05-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 08.05.2009, at 17:41, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 17:35, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 08.05.2009, at 17:03, James Simmons wrote: Aleksey, I was interested in your comment about wrapping Object Chooser for backward compatibility. Currently both

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.05.2009, at 01:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 21:10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Today I've kick-started a newbie on building Sugar to fix a small bug and submit his first patch. It was just painful. jhbuild has plenty of rough corners and we

Re: [Sugar-devel] wrong Activity versions for 8.2(.1) -- Etoys, Memorize, Terminal, Read, others

2009-05-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.05.2009, at 03:56, S Page wrote: Etoys at 94, but its web page's Activity_version says 98 == Someone should update http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Etoys_(8.2) !? == http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4030 is up to 100, but doesn't list a version for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fwd: Testing summary - 30 May 2009: Wellington NZ

2009-05-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.05.2009, at 00:21, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 03:30, Tabitha Roder tabi...@hrdnz.com wrote: There are 3 bridge applications consuming 1/3 of the cpu each: Bert, is this someone you would be interested in looking at? I think your confusing me with someone else ... I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaborative game using Etoys

2009-05-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.05.2009, at 19:40, Martin Bleichner wrote: Hello, I am trying to implement a (kind of) social science experiment, and would like to do that in squeak/etoys. For that I would like to connect four computers. On each computer you see a shared screen. Each user can manipulate one aspect

[Sugar-devel] Journal files on regular desktop

2009-06-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
So OLPC intends to pre-install both Sugar and Gnome on the XO 1.5. That means it would be rather desirable to use documents made in Sugar in Gnome, and possibly (a bit less importantly) vice versa. E.g., images, movies, texts, Etoys projects, etc in the Sugar Journal should be easily

Re: [Sugar-devel] collaboration testing session

2009-06-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.06.2009, at 06:09, David Van Assche wrote: Hi folks, We are having a collaborative sugar testing session next week Wednesday 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm EST, 2 pm CST, 1 pm MST, and 12 pm PST, most of Europe that will be 9 pm, 8 pm for the UK) So far we have

Re: [Sugar-devel] collaboration testing session

2009-06-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.06.2009, at 12:10, David Van Assche wrote: Ok, etoys included too.. Thanks :) Is it preinstalled on the openSUSE sugar images you mentioned? Are these the images you are referring to? http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/images/ Which collab server do you intend to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Grassroots-l] collaborative testing session (tomorrow's meeting) reminder

2009-06-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 09.06.2009, at 16:16, David Van Assche wrote: Hi folks, This is a reminder about the collaborative sugar testing session we are having tomorrow, Wednesday 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm EST, 2 pm CST, 1 pm MST, and 12 pm PST, most of Europe that will be 9 pm, 8 pm

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.06.2009, at 15:17, Walter Bender wrote: Maybe Getting Started might be a better name? How about Basics? - Bert - Just to complicate things, Nubae and I were discussing collaboration on IRC. It is another theme people may be interested in searching. Activities that a whole class can

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.06.2009, at 10:28, S Page wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation of SoaS XO-1 images. Excellent news, thanks! I indeed! Put them on a USB key or a SD card,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.06.2009, at 12:56, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and someone else (marketing team?) takes the task of communicating it to end users? [...] I suggest transforming

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.06.2009, at 14:09, Martin Dengler wrote: No, that's not the problem. It's people that don't know that they don't know what they're doing. My point is that I think we're worrying about people that a) want to be testers; and b) are so keen that they go copy-nanding (after getting a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)

2009-06-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
(excluding IAEP from cc list) On 18.06.2009, at 19:45, David Van Assche wrote: Anyway, the point is not to tie SoaS to one distro... Err, SoaS *is* a distro. It currently is based on Fedora, it might get based on something else in the unforeseeable future, but having a gazillion SoaSes

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Fwd: [Marketing] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)

2009-06-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.06.2009, at 20:28, David Van Assche wrote: Soas = sugar on a stick whether that be on Fedora, Suse, debian, or mandriva... they are all the same thing, and I would argue SoaS is NOT a distro... just a dsitribution mechanism... for example, I call my opensuse based sugar on stick

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design review plea.. OLPC desktop switcher

2009-06-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.06.2009, at 18:02, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Minor nitpick (and this has been discussed again and again on various lists), but the foot icon may be regarded as highly offensive in certain cultures (eg: certain places in S-E Asia). Assuming penguins are unencumbered, I'd suggest a Tux

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Important: Please test the new Snapshot!

2009-06-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.06.2009, at 03:24, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi everybody, I'm happy to announce eventually the availability of a new SoaS snapshot, which is one of the last snapshots on our way to the v1 Strawberry release. I think it should be really mentioned that this wouldn't have been possible

Re: [Sugar-devel] Not able to make xo package of ListenSpellActivity

2009-06-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hyphens are not allowed in the bundle-id. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#.info_file_format - Bert - On 21.06.2009, at 15:27, chirag jain wrote: I call the python setup.py dist_xo without MANIFEST. Although I got an XO package which installed correctly but the activity does

Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys - export as video

2009-06-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.06.2009, at 16:34, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, are there ways to export an animation one has done in etoys into a ogg file for example? With the new GStreamer support this may be possible to implement, but hasn't been done yet, to my knowledge. There was a recent discussion on how

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing out browser speed issues

2009-06-22 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 22.06.2009, at 06:28, Bryan Berry wrote: subzero, it just occurred to me that the easiest webkit-based browser to run on the XO is probably Opera. Except Opera is not based on WebKit. Afaik, it doesn't have a ton of QT dependencies like Konqueror and u won't have to custom compile it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting the dbus name from activity.info

2009-06-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 23.06.2009, at 04:15, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Is there some easy sugar library call to get the dbus name specified in activity.info? Oh, the perils of asking the list. The answer is: the Activity class already provides a self.get_bundle_id()

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: How do I get to upload a very nice VMware appliance to sunjammer?

2009-06-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Great! I was trying to make Strawberry run in VMware but failed: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware/Preparing_a_disk_image - Bert - Am 25.06.2009 um 17:04 schrieb David Farning: Some Mac related questions from Thomas Gilliard. He has been working on VMimages for Sugar Labs. david

[Sugar-devel] Toolbar design

2009-06-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.06.2009, at 01:32, Michael Stone wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Toolbars Nice design, much better than the tabbed toolbars. Once this is implemented, Etoys won't feel lonely anymore (it used a single toolbar with pop-out palettes from the beginning) ;-) One

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo -- preserving a downloaded filename?

2009-06-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.06.2009, at 19:17, Martin Langhoff wrote: Using Browse.xo v101 on 8.2.x I cannot get Browse.xo to save a file with the name that I am requesting. Browse.xo seems to take the name I hint from the server (from the URL and using an 'content-disposition: attachment, filename=leases.sig'

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo -- preserving a downloaded filename?

2009-06-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.06.2009, at 19:20, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/30/2009 07:17 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Using Browse.xo v101 on 8.2.x I cannot get Browse.xo to save a file with the name that I am requesting. Browse.xo seems to take the name I hint from the server (from the URL and using an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 06:08, Sascha Silbe wrote: [1] contains my thoughts on a VCS based datastore rewrite - a bit fleshed out now, but still not finished. The most important part for now is that I'd like to change the find() API call to take two parameters instead of one. I'm slightly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore API changes (was: Re: Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 14:52, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:52:01AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [1] http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/versionsupport-project/repos/mainline/blobs/master/datastore-redesign.html How do you intend transfer of file ownership to be handled

[Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
(moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this in Sugar. Adding a pre-made project to the Journal might work, but currently it would be resumed regularly and modified on stopping. It would need to be marked as a template so that when keeping it,

Re: [Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 15:36, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 15:26, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: (moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this in Sugar. Adding a pre-made project to the Journal might work, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 18:40, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: (moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this in Sugar. Adding a pre-made project to the Journal might work, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore API changes

2009-07-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.07.2009, at 22:54, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: The client side can know which python exception was raised in the server side and do whatever it can to best handle it. How does this work? I can't image DBus to transparently pass

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2229

2009-07-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2229.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-102.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2229-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-102.xo ==

Re: [Sugar-devel] Planning for Weds - Tux Paint, Conozco Uruguay, Memorize with Speak

2009-07-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.07.2009, at 04:07, Albert Cahalan wrote: Caroline Meeks writes: 1. Tux Paint - Waiting for it to save to the Journal before we let the kids use it Last I checked, the Journal interface... a. required piles of custom D-BUS code (very painful to do) Indeed, the D-Bus datastore

Re: [Sugar-devel] Duplication of Effort: Don't do it.

2009-07-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.07.2009, at 15:24, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Agreed, but the important point here is taking out barriers, even if they are psychological ones. By aligning yourself in the GNOME or KDE camp you are getting out the radar of a big part of the free software community. Well said. Sugar can only

Re: [Sugar-devel] TuxPaint and saving to journal (Was: Duplication of effort)

2009-07-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.07.2009, at 21:04, Ton van Overbeek wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Luke Faraonel...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 19:36, Ton van Overbeek tvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: I need the low-level dbus interface to the journal (or glib-dbus interface). This does not

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.07.2009, at 07:22, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:24:13PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: However, I feel like it could be better if the community (who I might even stretch to call customers) could have more influence. [...] What are the options for the community having

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] community influence on development

2009-07-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.07.2009, at 22:23, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:17:56PM -0300, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.07.2009, at 07:22, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:24:13PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: However, I feel like it could be better if the community (who I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Major Changes in the latest Snapshot

2009-08-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 03.08.2009, at 18:49, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 03.08.2009, at 01:02, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Hi everybody, I'm very happy to announce the availability of a new SoaS snapshot, http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas3-20090802.zip Please report all other issues you

Re: [Sugar-devel] How is the 'default' string in '.sugar/default' determined?

2009-08-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.08.2009, at 10:52, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 17:24, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: In the Sugar internals, how do you obtain the Sugar config storage directory?

[Sugar-devel] [OT] Bundles (was: Bundling libraries, RPMs?)

2009-08-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.08.2009, at 17:18, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Bert, On 18 Aug 2009, at 09:10, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 17.08.2009, at 23:34, Gary C Martin wrote: For the Mac users, it's just Drag this application to your application folder. Done, end of story. For the worst application offenders

[Sugar-devel] Tag designs (was Re: [DESIGN] UI mockups)

2009-08-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
[forwarded from christian] several options for the Journal, exploring various toolbars, the grid view, and tagging; [1] http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/090818_journal_thumbnails.pdf I like the tags icon. It should be used throughout to indicate tags (currently it's missing in the menu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Tag designs (was Re: [DESIGN] UI mockups)

2009-08-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.08.2009, at 18:41, Gary C Martin wrote: On 19 Aug 2009, at 17:19, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [forwarded from christian] several options for the Journal, exploring various toolbars, the grid view, and tagging; [1] http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/090818_journal_thumbnails.pdf I

Re: [Sugar-devel] creating seperate dbus-tubes in a single instance of a shared actvity

2009-08-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.08.2009, at 11:35, sumit singh wrote: Hi all, As far as I can understand from the reading is that when we share an activity, a new channel is created for that activity Correct. Actually, at least two channels, one for text and one for tubes:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] trac.sugarlabs.org: Trac being upgraded, Aug 23 10:00-13:00 EST

2009-08-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.08.2009, at 10:09, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:00, Luke Faraonel...@faraone.cc wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 10:07, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I'd also like to propose using the URL http://trac.sugarlabs.org to refer to our trac instance. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.08.2009, at 11:33, Bill Kerr wrote: n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: === Sugar Digest === 4. The recent FSF campaign condemning the use of Windows 7 in education (See http://windows7sins.org/) imputes OLPC in complicity with Microsoft. It

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2258

2009-08-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2258.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-104.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2258-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-104.xo ==

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