Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-27 Thread Donald Christensen
I found an excellent book on the matter It shows how we are making the world more dangerous for children. Society protects them so much that we prevent them from learning how to cope in the stressful world. Children grow old. We can't prevent that. However we can prevent them from growing up.

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-27 Thread darkroom3
: Donald Christensen dchristensen...@gmail.com To: sundial sundial@uni-koeln.de Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 8:29 pm Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? I found an excellent book on the matter It shows how we are making the world more dangerous for children

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-27 Thread Donald Christensen
the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? I found an excellent book on the matter It shows how we are making the world more dangerous for children. Society protects them so much that we prevent them from learning how to cope in the stressful world. Children grow old. We can't prevent

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-27 Thread Roger Bailey
...@aol.com Cc: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world,'banning' analemmatic sundials ? I was sickened how society prevents children from growing up or learning how to cope with life. That is until I read about Lenore Skenazy http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/ and Tim Gill

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-27 Thread R Wall ML emails
, Roderick Wall. From: Roger Bailey Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 1:56 PM To: Donald Christensen ; darkro...@aol.com Cc: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world,'banning' analemmatic sundials ? I was a free range kid, as were my kids. We created our own activities, took

RE: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Jackie Jones
Addiscott Sent: 15 May 2012 15:20 To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? Roughly one year ago, I had mentioned on this 'Mailing List' that our local Educational Authority would not permit us to install an interactive 'analemmatic' sundial

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread darkroom3
Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? It has little or nothing to do with controlling the students, or even concern over their welfare. It all comes down to liability. Should some child be injured in a schoolyard scuffle, or 20 years later develop a skin

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread John Pickard
Good morning Martina, I've been following the various replies, and I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments expressed about stupid attempts to reduce risk to zero. We all have our favourite stories, but I think that these examples will top the list. I understand that one of the largest

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Donald Christensen
, 2012 2:12 pm Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? It has little or nothing to do with controlling the students, or even concern over their welfare. It all comes down to liability. Should some child be injured in a schoolyard scuffle, or 20 years

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-16 Thread Roger Bailey
-koeln.de Subject: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? Roughly one year ago, I had mentioned on this 'Mailing List' that our local Educational Authority would not permit us to install an interactive 'analemmatic' sundial on our school playground - since

Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread Martina Addiscott
Roughly one year ago, I had mentioned on this 'Mailing List' that our local Educational Authority would not permit us to install an interactive 'analemmatic' sundial on our school playground - since their opinion was that it was simply too dangerous, for children ! It now seems that other

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread Thibaud Taudin-Chabot
Did any of the schools ever mention what the danger is of an analemmatic sundial? Thibaud At 16:19 15-5-2012, Martina Addiscott wrote: Roughly one year ago, I had mentioned on this 'Mailing List' that our local Educational Authority would not permit us to install an interactive 'analemmatic'

RE: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread Ross Sinclair Caldwell
worried the dial would provoke fights over using it, or just because it was there. These sorts of things. Ross Caldwell43° 20' N3° 13' E Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:46:18 +0200 To: sundial@uni-koeln.de From: tcha...@dds.nl Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread darkroom3
.@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] Im Auftrag von Martina Addiscott Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2012 16:20 An: sundial@uni-koeln.de Betreff: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? Roughly one year ago, I had mentioned on this 'Mailing List' that

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread David Bell
To: Sundial Mailingliste sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Tue, May 15, 2012 11:21 am Subject: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ? Dear Martina, I still remember your previous message! The world is crazy! In Germany I have heard in a radio transmission last

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread Frank King
Dear Reinhold, You write... Create a wall of shame with lots of funny comments... Your story is full of drama. There is good news... ...Herr Kriegler sei der beste Lehrer an der Schule... Then the bad news... ...da hatte dieser Satz die Wirkung eines Stichs in ein Wespennest.

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread Martina Addiscott
In message C999F252986D457EA20FAC7AD947B60D@samsung Reinhold Kriegler reinhold.krieg...@gmx.de wrote: Dear Martina, I still remember your previous message! The world is crazy! In Germany I have heard in a radio transmission last year, parents went to a lawyer after

R: Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread sun.di...@libero.it
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. ~ Friedrich Schiller Ciao. Gian Messaggio originale Da: martina.addisc...@gmail.com Data: 15/05/2012 19.23 A: sundial@uni-koeln.de Ogg: Re: Why are schools, across the world,#39;banning#39; analemmatic sundials ? In message

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread Kevin Karney
Martina Gian is quite right. But one must try… So you need a strategy to overcome the stupidity. Why not recommend to your school the superb Mac Oglesby Beam Spar dial (equiangular - so correctable for summer time and EoT!). This is designed for boy scouts/girl guides and involves ropes

Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning' analemmatic sundials ?

2012-05-15 Thread Roger Bailey
are schools, across the world,'banning' analemmatic sundials ? Dear Reinhold, Thanks for your reply, saying you also had some difficulty with an 'analemmatic' sundial at a school - and caused by jealousy plus people being frightened of some legal action, against them. As you suggest, I would love