Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread Thomas Guyot-Sionnest
TLD wrote:
Roger Oksanen wrote:
I'm guessing that freenet does a listing to decide if there exists a 
valid datastore. It would not be to efficient to open every file just 

Lame as it may sound, try disabling the index file for the datastore.

Thank for the tip! I'll try in the next days... If it works maybe it's 
worth adding a FAQ entry... doesn't it?

Thank again all for your help, I'll follow-up in a few days.
Thomas Guyot
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Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> The ISP can monitor your email even if they don't relay your mail..
> > With the whole PayPal thing how
> > long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet
> > particpants.
> Only if they get scared. Unfortunately it is depressingly easy to
> detect nodes at present, we haven't removed the session negotiation (and
> other) bytes yet...

Were the shareholders (or Disney, RIAA, MPAA, et al.) that disagree with
freenet/P2P principles to get on an ISP(s)'s case with FUD...

I have no money but I wager 2 binary digits that one of the above
mentioned entities had something to do with PayPal's action taken against
the freenet donation account.  I also wager that a transfer of a large
not-officially-disclosed amount of money or shares between higher-ups in
PayPal and said entity(ies) had something to do with the process.  Put
short: I smell a payoff arrangement.

> > There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there is
> > statistically a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's
> > principles wokring for ISPs. ISP could do the exact same thing to
> > someone participating in freenet either as a node or by participating
> > on one of their mailing lists in a similar manner to how PayPal
> > suspended the FreeNet donation account.  All they'd have to do is look
> > through their MTA log and see the destination (they wouldn't even need
> > to see the message data) then do their thing ...
> Not very likely, but I personally run a mailserver on my box too.
> Unfortunately I started getting bounces for reasons similar to the

This could easily have been an ISP rather than PayPal.  Furthermore
whatever or whoever convinced PayPal to make this decision, having been
successful in his/her/its efforts, may progress and continue their agenda
now that they have determined that their method of warfare against the
freenet project is having success.

> above. Now I forward my mail through dodo.freenetproject.org via an SSL
> tunnel (no, we do not provide this service to anyone but core
> developers!).

All the trends show that freedoms of speech and press are disintegrating
in all areas of the world and that the decline of these freedoms is
capitalist-consumer-economically and sometimes socio-theologically
motivated.  Is money worth losing our freedom for?  I don't think so but a
lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and
can effect political maneuvering).

It's going to get to the point where everyone needs to run a freenet node
just to have secure private email conversations.  Problem is getting
everyone you know and transfer email with to run freenet nodes (and some
of them may have hardware incapable of running a node effectively).
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[freenet-support] Re: freenet gateway pages

2004-05-18 Thread Wayne McDougall
Wayne McDougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I just tested and https://freenet.mixmaster.it:4433/servlet/nodeinfo/
> is working
> 
> https://freenet.thing.net/ 
> usually works - doesn't seem to be responding at the moment but worth trying 
> again later.

It was back up again last time I checked.

> > > any suggestions?
> 
> I offer my humble gateway:
> 
> https://freenet.dyns.net:1443

Not surprisingly my gateway got some use after my post. I notice there are 
some regular visitors - probably testing how far their inserts propagate. Good 
idea! So I thought I should offer this warning:

I'm taking my public gateway down for the next 3 days to avoid a bandwidth 
surcharge (the rate limiting bug in 5081 didn't help). Someday I'll put some 
traffic shaper on my router to avoid this.





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Re: [freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Chris Linstruth
Reversing this should do the trick.  SORBS.NET is way too aggressive and
often out-of-date with marginal support in gettting erroneous entries removed.
Spamhaus hasn't given me any problems at all.  Nor has the mail-abuse.org
RBL.

Using SORBS with Postfix.
Two parts of the configuration need to be changed:

In your main.cf file (usually /etc/postfix/main.cf) set the following:

   1. maps_rbl_domains = dnsbl.sorbs.net
   2. smtpd_client_restrictions = reject_maps_rbl


Note: the 'reject_maps_rbl' restriction should be added rather than
replacing the current options.

http://www.dnsbl.us.sorbs.net/mailsystems/postfix.html

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Re: [freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 10:39:44AM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 18 May 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote:
> 
> > Don't wait for someone to implement what you've suggested (allowing direct
> > SMTP connections from a dynamic IP); there's enough work to do without
> > building these kinds of things that just lead to constant maintenance.
> >
> > There's nothing preventing you from using another SMTP gateway; it doesn't
> > have to be your ISP, it just has to answer to a DNS reverse lookup (or
> > something like that). GMane, Yahoo!, GMX, etc.
> 
> Any smarthost is bad becuase any of them can potentially analyze your
> email going through it (they don't even need to do that; they can just
> inspect the headers in the MTA logfile).  

The ISP can monitor your email even if they don't relay your mail..

> With the whole PayPal thing how
> long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet
> particpants.

Only if they get scared. Unfortunately it is depressingly easy to
detect nodes at present, we haven't removed the session negotiation (and
other) bytes yet...

> There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there
> could be a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's principles.  An
> ISP could do the exact same thing to someone participating in freenet
> either as a node or by participating on one of their mailing lists in a
> similar manner to how PayPal suspended the FreeNet donation account.  All
> they'd have to do is look through their MTA log and see the destination
> (they wouldn't even need to see the message data) then do their thing -
> "that user is involved with something to do with open proxies - let's
> suspend his/her account for TOS violation"

Not very likely, but I personally run a mailserver on my box too.
Unfortunately I started getting bounces for reasons similar to the
above. Now I forward my mail through dodo.freenetproject.org via an SSL
tunnel (no, we do not provide this service to anyone but core
developers!).

I have no idea how the above happened though.
We have:
Postfix
Spamassassin (integrated into mailman, I don't think it's set up at the
MTA level).
Dspam (or do we? I can't find any direct trace of its package..)
running on debian.

Any ideas how and where we can configure the system to ignore sorbs.net?
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Re: [freenet-support] error first time start freenet

2004-05-18 Thread Dave
You might just need to update the symlink in /bin/java or something like
that...

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On Tuesday 18 May 2004 22:50, tripolar wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> >>>It's not running in sun java, at least not using the sun java
> >>> classes. Check your classpath.. test java -version to see what
> >>> java is being used by default.
> >>
> >>$java -version
> >>Kaffe Virtual Machine
> >>Engine: Just-in-time v3 Version: 1.1.4
> >>
> >>Please help with "Check your classpath" ??
> >>Thanks
> >
> >No need...  you can see clearly that you are not running in sun java
> > from the fact that the above message says "Kaffe Virtual Machine"
> > rather than "Sun Java".   Use Sun Java instead.   Currently, as far
> > as I am aware, only Sun Java is capable of running Freenet
> > reliably, due to freenet's reliance on fairly recent java
> > functionality.
>
> How do I use Sun Java instead? As root I installed it in
> /usr/local/j2re1.4.2_04
>
> Again using Debian-sid & 2.6.3 kernel

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Re: [freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:16:58PM -0400, Jay Oliveri wrote:
> Don't wait for someone to implement what you've suggested (allowing direct 
> SMTP connections from a dynamic IP); there's enough work to do without 
> building these kinds of things that just lead to constant maintenance.
> 
> There's nothing preventing you from using another SMTP gateway; it doesn't 
> have to be your ISP, it just has to answer to a DNS reverse lookup (or 
> something like that). GMane, Yahoo!, GMX, etc.

Oh wonderful. Yahoo? YAHOO?! .
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Re: [freenet-support] (fwd) Re: paypal (Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details)

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
Ouch. I had no idea it was that aggressive.

On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:43:24PM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> 
> Um, perhaps your mailsever should check for subscriber addresses *before*
> it runs the overzealous spam filtering services?
> 
> The message I tried to send (I am a subscribed member and think getting
> blocked like this is BS) is at the very bottom
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: (fwd) Re: paypal (Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details)
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 17 May 2004, it was written:
> 
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Received: from localhost (localhost)
> > by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i4HJVc2m010539;
> > Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > (envelope-from MAILER-DAEMON)
> > Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> > boundary="i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net"
> > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
> >
> > This is a MIME-encapsulated message
> >
> > --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net
> >
> > The original message was received at Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
> > from localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1]
> >
> >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
> > dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
> > http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81)
> >
> >- Transcript of session follows -
> > ... while talking to a.mx.freenetproject.org.:
> > >>> DATA
> > <<< 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
> > dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
> > http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
> > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
> > <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients
> >
> > --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net
> > Content-Type: message/delivery-status
> >
> > Reporting-MTA: dns; ruby.enugen.net
> > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.enugen.net
> > Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Action: failed
> > Status: 5.0.0
> > Remote-MTA: DNS; a.mx.freenetproject.org
> > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked 
> > using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
> > http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
> > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:29 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net
> > Content-Type: message/rfc822
> >
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Received: from ruby.enugen.net (localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1])
> > by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i4HJVE2m010537
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
> > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > by ruby.enugen.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i4HJVDLX010534
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
> > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > X-Authentication-Warning: ruby.enugen.net: brian owned process doing -bs
> > Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 12:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: PayPal
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >
> > I'm guessing the next people they freeze are going to be people that have
> > their picture on their website and they appear to be northeastern Saudi
> > Arabian becuase they might be laundering funds for terrorism?
> >
> > Your situation needs answers.  Unfortunately PayPal is probably pretty
> > well legally grounded and there won't be much you can do.  And to date I
> > haven't read a slashdot post about it yet.
> >
> > Maybe you should suggest people start sending money orders to the project
> > maintainers directly?
> >
> > Another suggestion, what about SourceForge's donation system, or does THAT
> > go thru paypal too?  Of all the open source projects, how many of THEM
> > pertain to some sort of anonymization project?  Is PayPal going to freeze
> > them too?
> >
> > You might want to ask the sourceforge people for help on this one.
> >
> > --i4HJVc2m010539.1084822298/ruby.enugen.net--
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 04:04:06PM +0300, Roger Oksanen wrote:
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> On Tuesday 18 May 2004 15:55, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest wrote:
> 
> > As I said, FAT32 filesystems under Linux are
> > *case-insensitive*...Whenever you type the name in UPPER or lower
> > case, you access the same file.
> >
> > What I said is there could be a problem if freenet get a directory
> > listing and do some internal comparaisons on it... But chances of
> > such problem are minimal since store name are in lowercase in both
> > OS.
> 
> I'm guessing that freenet does a listing to decide if there exists a 
> valid datastore. It would not be to efficient to open every file just 
> to make sure it exists, doing a listing is much faster. As the 
> directory listing probably returns names in upper case, it will fail 
> and re-create the store.

We don't do a listing unless there is no index file.

> But this is of course all speculation as you have not verified if linux 
> returns names with uppercase characters.

I don't think it does... but I can't see that being the problem.
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 11:27:41AM +0300, Roger Oksanen wrote:
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> On Tuesday 18 May 2004 09:40, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest wrote:
> 
> > Also, linux's FAT32 driver doesn't care for case... However, if the
> > Freenet client get a directory listing and do case-sensitive
> > operations on it, it may fail...  (and that would definetly be a bug
> > of Freenet since hex strings doesn't care about case)
> 
> Linux file operations are case sensitive so I'm not supprised if the 
> freenet code assumes that files should have a certain case.
> The datastore seems to only use lower case characters. One could of 
> course easily write a litle program/script that changes the filename 
> for all datastore files that have uppercase characters in them (if 
> that's the problem).

I doubt it as freenet works on both OSs... owait... I think.. yes. Set
doIndex=false. That will very probably fix the problem. I think we keep
actual filenames in the index file, including separators...
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
Try doIndex=false ? Does that make any difference?

On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:30:20AM -0400, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a long time Linux user, but sometimes I need to run windoz to do 
> somes tasks. I usually does them in batch and it keep my computer busy 
> for a few days every once in a month or two. I would like to know if 
> there any way to share the same freenet directory between these two OS.
> 
> In fact, I'm actually doing it... Freenet is on a FAT32 volume, and 
> since Linux and windoz versions doesn't use the same config file, I have 
> no problems with path or any system-dependant configuration. It looks 
> like Freenet developpers had this kind of installation in mind when they 
> designed it.
> 
> However, everytime I switch OS, I lose all my datastore.
> 
> What's causing this? Is there any setting I missed? My freenet.conf is 
> basically the same as freenet.ini with windoz paths replaced to Linux 
> paths. And since I last installed Freenet from windoz (and latter, from 
> linux, copied *.sh from Linux's Freenet directory to the Freenet dir on 
> the FAT32 volume), freenet.ini is basically the default windoz config 
> file without much tweaking (Store to 3Gb, things like that...).
> 
> Thanks for your support...
> 
> 
> Thomas Guyot
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Re: [freenet-support] error first time start freenet

2004-05-18 Thread Roger Oksanen
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On Tuesday 18 May 2004 22:50, tripolar wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> >>>It's not running in sun java, at least not using the sun java
> >>> classes. Check your classpath.. test java -version to see what
> >>> java is being used by default.
> >>
> >>$java -version
> >>Kaffe Virtual Machine
> >>Engine: Just-in-time v3 Version: 1.1.4
> >>
> >>Please help with "Check your classpath" ??
> >>Thanks
> >
> >No need...  you can see clearly that you are not running in sun java
> > from the fact that the above message says "Kaffe Virtual Machine"
> > rather than "Sun Java".   Use Sun Java instead.   Currently, as far
> > as I am aware, only Sun Java is capable of running Freenet
> > reliably, due to freenet's reliance on fairly recent java
> > functionality.
>
> How do I use Sun Java instead? As root I installed it in
> /usr/local/j2re1.4.2_04
>
> Again using Debian-sid & 2.6.3 kernel

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Re: [freenet-support] error first time start freenet

2004-05-18 Thread tripolar
Dave wrote:
It's not running in sun java, at least not using the sun java classes.
Check your classpath.. test java -version to see what java is being
used by default.
 

$java -version
Kaffe Virtual Machine
Engine: Just-in-time v3 Version: 1.1.4
Please help with "Check your classpath" ??
Thanks
   

No need...  you can see clearly that you are not running in sun java from
the fact that the above message says "Kaffe Virtual Machine" rather than
"Sun Java".   Use Sun Java instead.   Currently, as far as I am aware, only
Sun Java is capable of running Freenet reliably, due to freenet's reliance
on fairly recent java functionality.
 

How do I use Sun Java instead? As root I installed it in
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2_04
Again using Debian-sid & 2.6.3 kernel
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Re: [freenet-support] error first time start freenet

2004-05-18 Thread Dave
> >It's not running in sun java, at least not using the sun java classes.
> >Check your classpath.. test java -version to see what java is being
> >used by default.
> >
> >
> $java -version
> Kaffe Virtual Machine
> Engine: Just-in-time v3 Version: 1.1.4
>
> Please help with "Check your classpath" ??
> Thanks

No need...  you can see clearly that you are not running in sun java from
the fact that the above message says "Kaffe Virtual Machine" rather than
"Sun Java".   Use Sun Java instead.   Currently, as far as I am aware, only
Sun Java is capable of running Freenet reliably, due to freenet's reliance
on fairly recent java functionality.

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Re: [freenet-support] error first time start freenet

2004-05-18 Thread tripolar
Roger Oksanen wrote:
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On Tuesday 18 May 2004 09:14, tripolar wrote:
 

I am running Debian-sid, 2.6.3 kernel, and java from sun (
j2re-1_4_2_04 ). I installed freenet, edited the conf file- just
added my ip address. When I started freenet $sh start-freenet.sh I
get this error ( below) though this part of the error is maybe a
thousand lines down. Finally killed freenet with root.
Any ideas on how to fix this?
Thanks
"  at freenet.transport.AbstractSelectorLoop.loop
(AbstractSelectorLoop.java:835)
  at freenet.transport.ListenSelectorLoop.run
(ListenSelectorLoop.java:149) at java.lang.Thread.run
(Thread.java:307)
java.lang.Exception
  at freenet.transport.AbstractSelectorLoop.loop
(AbstractSelectorLoop.java:836)
  at freenet.transport.ListenSelectorLoop.run
(ListenSelectorLoop.java:149) at java.lang.Thread.run
(Thread.java:307)
Caught a java.nio.channels.IllegalBlockingModeException,
LSL.processConnections failing
java.nio.channels.IllegalBlockingModeException
  at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept (ServerSocket.java:350)
  at gnu.java.nio.NIOServerSocket.accept (NIOServerSocket.java:77)
  at gnu.java.nio.ServerSocketChannelImpl.accept
   

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It's not running in sun java, at least not using the sun java classes. 
Check your classpath.. test java -version to see what java is being 
used by default.
 

$java -version
Kaffe Virtual Machine
Engine: Just-in-time v3 Version: 1.1.4
Please help with "Check your classpath" ??
Thanks

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[freenet-support] freenet on slashdot

2004-05-18 Thread pineapple
The paypay-freenet incident has landed on slashdot. 
Wonder how the website will hold up? :)




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Re: [freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

On Tue, 18 May 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote:

> Don't wait for someone to implement what you've suggested (allowing direct
> SMTP connections from a dynamic IP); there's enough work to do without
> building these kinds of things that just lead to constant maintenance.
>
> There's nothing preventing you from using another SMTP gateway; it doesn't
> have to be your ISP, it just has to answer to a DNS reverse lookup (or
> something like that). GMane, Yahoo!, GMX, etc.

Any smarthost is bad becuase any of them can potentially analyze your
email going through it (they don't even need to do that; they can just
inspect the headers in the MTA logfile).  With the whole PayPal thing how
long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet
particpants.  There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there
could be a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's principles.  An
ISP could do the exact same thing to someone participating in freenet
either as a node or by participating on one of their mailing lists in a
similar manner to how PayPal suspended the FreeNet donation account.  All
they'd have to do is look through their MTA log and see the destination
(they wouldn't even need to see the message data) then do their thing -
"that user is involved with something to do with open proxies - let's
suspend his/her account for TOS violation"
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Re: [freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Jay Oliveri
Don't wait for someone to implement what you've suggested (allowing direct 
SMTP connections from a dynamic IP); there's enough work to do without 
building these kinds of things that just lead to constant maintenance.

There's nothing preventing you from using another SMTP gateway; it doesn't 
have to be your ISP, it just has to answer to a DNS reverse lookup (or 
something like that). GMane, Yahoo!, GMX, etc.

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www.sf.net/users/joliveri

On Tuesday 18 May 2004 12:29 pm, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 18 09:25:34 2004
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
>
> The original message was received at Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:32 -0700
> (PDT) from localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1]
>
>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked
> using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See:
> http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81)
>
>- Transcript of session follows -
>
> ... while talking to a.mx.freenetproject.org.:
> >>> DATA
>
> <<< 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using
> dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See:
> http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81 554 5.0.0
> Service unavailable
> <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients
[snip]
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Re: [freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> > What exactly happens? I don't think the spam filtering we have on dodo
> > would arbitrarily discard messages from DSL hosts, they might be
> > slightly more likely to be held...
>
> It seems dodo is using the blacklist server SORBS (www.dnsbl.sorbs.net).

This definately will discard messages from a majority of hobbyist
residential internet sites (read: cannot afford business accounts which
offer static IP addressing) running their own MTAs.

> If you click on the "Check Entry" button on this page, you
> will find the reason for rejection.

I know all about SORBS and its overzealous blocking policy.
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Re: [freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Toad wrote:

> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> >=20
> > And to further the mail objection against having to use my ISP's mailer
> > to talk to *this* list is that Shaw in theory can now look at my mail
> > traffic and if they don't like the Freenet project, could suspend my
> > internet account in a similar manner to how PayPal suspended yours.
> >=20
> > Please, please, please FIX this and allow direct MTA connections from
> > subscribed members only.  Having to go thru the ISP mail server is a MAJOR
> > privacy concern for me (I know from sysadmin experience that they can look
> > at any mail passing thru their server at any time).

> What exactly happens? I don't think the spam filtering we have on dodo
> would arbitrarily discard messages from DSL hosts, they might be
> slightly more likely to be held...

I thought I posted the text of the failure message.  It reports as
'service unavailable' and directs dul.sorbs.net hitting on my MTA's IP as
the cause (again I normally don't smarthost thru my ISP due to privacy
concerns) but I've had to switch.  The mailing list has only recently
started doing this; I used to be able to post here.

I'll try again with smarthosting off and if it bounces again I'll post the
bounce reply exported to a text message with full headers.
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Re: [freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-18 Thread Edward J. Huff
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 11:17, Toad wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> > Please, please, please FIX this and allow direct MTA connections from
> > subscribed members only.  Having to go thru the ISP mail server is a MAJOR
> > privacy concern for me (I know from sysadmin experience that they can look
> > at any mail passing thru their server at any time).
> 
> What exactly happens? I don't think the spam filtering we have on dodo
> would arbitrarily discard messages from DSL hosts, they might be
> slightly more likely to be held...

It seems dodo is using the blacklist server SORBS (www.dnsbl.sorbs.net).

If you click on the "Check Entry" button on this page, you
will find the reason for rejection.

http://www.dnsbl.us.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81

The above link came from an earlier message in another thread:
[freenet-support] (fwd) Re: paypal (Re: Returned mail: see transcript
for details)

>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81]
blocked using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See:
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81)

My IP is not listed as dynamic which is why I don't see
the problem.  I have a small ISP.

-- Ed Huff



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[freenet-support] Here's the bounce reply (the list WILL block subscribers on DSL addresses running their own MTAs)

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 18 09:25:34 2004
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details

The original message was received at Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
from localhost.enugen.net [127.0.0.1]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(reason: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to a.mx.freenetproject.org.:
>>> DATA
<<< 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked using 
dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
<<< 554 Error: no valid recipients

[ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ]

Reporting-MTA: dns; ruby.enugen.net
Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.enugen.net
Arrival-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; a.mx.freenetproject.org
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 Service unavailable; Client host [24.71.255.81] blocked 
using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Dynamic IP Address See: 
http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=24.71.255.81
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:48 -0700 (PDT)


[ Part 3: "Included Message" ]

Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Brian Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Freenet Support Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I'm sending this message directly thru my MTA without smarthosting
thru my ISP

This is the message I am attempting to send to the list to test for a
bounced mail.  If I get a bounce as I mentioned I'll text export the
bounce reply and post the error.
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Re: [freenet-support] mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> 
> And to further the mail objection against having to use my ISP's mailer
> to talk to *this* list is that Shaw in theory can now look at my mail
> traffic and if they don't like the Freenet project, could suspend my
> internet account in a similar manner to how PayPal suspended yours.
> 
> Please, please, please FIX this and allow direct MTA connections from
> subscribed members only.  Having to go thru the ISP mail server is a MAJOR
> privacy concern for me (I know from sysadmin experience that they can look
> at any mail passing thru their server at any time).

What exactly happens? I don't think the spam filtering we have on dodo
would arbitrarily discard messages from DSL hosts, they might be
slightly more likely to be held...
> 
> Just remember every ISP you're forcing subscribers to send their mail
> through may be the next 'PayPal'.
> 
> Also note that you have an identity of the sender (they subscribed after
> all) so if you get a spam from a subscriber you know who to tar and
> feather so there's no reason to use the overzealous IP blocking services
> on mailing list subscribers.
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: mailing list subscriber email should bypass spam blockers

2004-05-18 Thread Toad
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 10:24:37PM +0200, Someone wrote:
> Edward J. Huff schrieb:
> >Nothing goes through my ISP's mail server,
> >but since traffic on port 25 is unencrypted, they can read my
> >mail anyway.
> 
> As an alternative you could post to and read the lists via the gmane
> news group server, which also allows encrypted SSL connections.
> 
> But as long as the freenet node can be found via a short port scan
> followed by an fnp connection attempt on open ports, it won't help
> much if your provider dislikes freenet.

It can't. You cannot portscan for freenet. You can however detect nodes
via passive traffic analysis.
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread TLD
Roger Oksanen wrote:
> I'm guessing that freenet does a listing to decide if there exists a 
> valid datastore. It would not be to efficient to open every file just 

Lame as it may sound, try disabling the index file for the datastore.


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread Roger Oksanen
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On Tuesday 18 May 2004 15:55, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest wrote:

> As I said, FAT32 filesystems under Linux are
> *case-insensitive*...Whenever you type the name in UPPER or lower
> case, you access the same file.
>
> What I said is there could be a problem if freenet get a directory
> listing and do some internal comparaisons on it... But chances of
> such problem are minimal since store name are in lowercase in both
> OS.

I'm guessing that freenet does a listing to decide if there exists a 
valid datastore. It would not be to efficient to open every file just 
to make sure it exists, doing a listing is much faster. As the 
directory listing probably returns names in upper case, it will fail 
and re-create the store.
But this is of course all speculation as you have not verified if linux 
returns names with uppercase characters.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread Thomas Guyot-Sionnest
Roger Oksanen wrote:
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On Tuesday 18 May 2004 09:40, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest wrote:

Also, linux's FAT32 driver doesn't care for case... However, if the
Freenet client get a directory listing and do case-sensitive
operations on it, it may fail...  (and that would definetly be a bug
of Freenet since hex strings doesn't care about case)

Linux file operations are case sensitive so I'm not supprised if the 
freenet code assumes that files should have a certain case.
The datastore seems to only use lower case characters. One could of 
course easily write a litle program/script that changes the filename 
for all datastore files that have uppercase characters in them (if 
that's the problem).

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As I said, FAT32 filesystems under Linux are 
*case-insensitive*...Whenever you type the name in UPPER or lower case, 
you access the same file.

What I said is there could be a problem if freenet get a directory 
listing and do some internal comparaisons on it... But chances of such 
problem are minimal since store name are in lowercase in both OS.

Thomas Guyot
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Re: [freenet-support] error in log when starting

2004-05-18 Thread Roger Oksanen
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On Monday 17 May 2004 02:37, Jason Barr wrote:
> I get this error, and subsequently cannot connect to the fproxy...
> even though it says the daemon started properly:
>
> ^HException in thread "main" java.io.IOException: couldn't create
> native directory
> at
> freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.(NativeFSDirectory.java:717)
> at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:541)
>
> Anybody know how to fix this please?

What OS, what version of freenet? That error seems to come when freenet 
is unable to create directories. Perhaps you have to strict permissions 
in the freenet directory.

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Re: [freenet-support] error first time start freenet

2004-05-18 Thread Roger Oksanen
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On Tuesday 18 May 2004 09:14, tripolar wrote:
> I am running Debian-sid, 2.6.3 kernel, and java from sun (
> j2re-1_4_2_04 ). I installed freenet, edited the conf file- just
> added my ip address. When I started freenet $sh start-freenet.sh I
> get this error ( below) though this part of the error is maybe a
> thousand lines down. Finally killed freenet with root.
> Any ideas on how to fix this?
> Thanks
> "  at freenet.transport.AbstractSelectorLoop.loop
> (AbstractSelectorLoop.java:835)
>at freenet.transport.ListenSelectorLoop.run
> (ListenSelectorLoop.java:149) at java.lang.Thread.run
> (Thread.java:307)
> java.lang.Exception
>at freenet.transport.AbstractSelectorLoop.loop
> (AbstractSelectorLoop.java:836)
>at freenet.transport.ListenSelectorLoop.run
> (ListenSelectorLoop.java:149) at java.lang.Thread.run
> (Thread.java:307)
> Caught a java.nio.channels.IllegalBlockingModeException,
> LSL.processConnections failing
> java.nio.channels.IllegalBlockingModeException
>at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept (ServerSocket.java:350)
>at gnu.java.nio.NIOServerSocket.accept (NIOServerSocket.java:77)
>at gnu.java.nio.ServerSocketChannelImpl.accept
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It's not running in sun java, at least not using the sun java classes. 
Check your classpath.. test java -version to see what java is being 
used by default.

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Re: [freenet-support] Datastore loses keys on restart

2004-05-18 Thread TLD
Daves Lists wrote:
> My node was up for 1 day 10 hours when I restarted it to increase the
> thread limit. After the restart I lost about 6000 keys. My datastore is
> set to 50 gigs and is no where near full. Below are the stats before and
> after. Were those just temporary keys that were deleted after the
> restart?? I’m running 5082 on WinXP pro.

Probably so. Temporary keys are lost upon restart, and it takes a while
(how long?) before they are committed to the store.
Up to date, I do not know a way to cleanly bring down the node, where by
"cleanly" I mean all of: completing the transfers pending or in progress
(while not accepting new ones), committing or removing temp files, clean
exit for the jvm.


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet directory sharing between Linux/windoz

2004-05-18 Thread Roger Oksanen
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On Tuesday 18 May 2004 09:40, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest wrote:

> Also, linux's FAT32 driver doesn't care for case... However, if the
> Freenet client get a directory listing and do case-sensitive
> operations on it, it may fail...  (and that would definetly be a bug
> of Freenet since hex strings doesn't care about case)

Linux file operations are case sensitive so I'm not supprised if the 
freenet code assumes that files should have a certain case.
The datastore seems to only use lower case characters. One could of 
course easily write a litle program/script that changes the filename 
for all datastore files that have uppercase characters in them (if 
that's the problem).

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