Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-29 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Fri, 28 May 2004 18:39:14 -0400, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's either not that speed, or not DSL! ADSL is 1Mbit up, 8Mbit down; SDSL is a little faster for upload, but slower for download (up=down)... Even a dedicated T1 is not that fast, around 50Mbps! Wrong list

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-29 Thread Toad
Woah. We have MUCH less bandwidth in the UK. :| On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 10:13:04AM +0200, Troed S?ngberg wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2004 18:39:14 -0400, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's either not that speed, or not DSL! ADSL is 1Mbit up, 8Mbit down; SDSL is a little

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-28 Thread Thomas Guyot-Sionnest
That's either not that speed, or not DSL! ADSL is 1Mbit up, 8Mbit down; SDSL is a little faster for upload, but slower for download (up=down)... Even a dedicated T1 is not that fast, around 50Mbps! Thomas Guyot Dave wrote: You want to move to Japan instead. 100Mbits up, 100Mbits down DSL, for

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-26 Thread Toad
On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 11:34:18AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 05:04:53AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: Not terribly well, because of high level bandwidth limiting. The node needs to know how much bandwidth is available to

[freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-25 Thread Wayne McDougall
Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 05:04:53AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: Not terribly well, because of high level bandwidth limiting. The node needs to know how much bandwidth is available to estimate how much is being used and therefore how many queries to allow.

[freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Wayne McDougall
Phillip Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would be nice (in lieu of being able to prefer certain IP ranges - I get local traffic far cheaper) would be a way to limit monthly transfer, eg set it so the node can use 5GB/month, and it'll aim for a daily transfer of about 170MB, but will

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Phillip Hutchings
[snip] 1. My experience is that I can get a limit of 5 Gb of *international* traffic a month (170 Mb a day) with Node bandwidth limits of Overall 0 Output 750 Input 0 Yup, a limit of 750 bytes per second. I need to experiment more with the Overall setting. Freenet is the single most effective

[freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Wayne McDougall
Phillip Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing that I can think of is limiting the size of incoming files not requested by the node directly - stop splitfiles and things going through. I'm more interested in the information, not movies, but I can't think of a tidy way to implement

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Toad
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:05:42AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: Phillip Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would be nice (in lieu of being able to prefer certain IP ranges - I get local traffic far cheaper) would be a way to limit monthly transfer, eg set it so the node can use

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Toad
Have you tried averageOutputLimit ? Does it work? On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:25:33PM +1200, Phillip Hutchings wrote: [snip] 1. My experience is that I can get a limit of 5 Gb of *international* traffic a month (170 Mb a day) with Node bandwidth limits of Overall 0 Output 750 Input 0

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Toad
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 11:32:50AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: Phillip Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing that I can think of is limiting the size of incoming files not requested by the node directly - stop splitfiles and things going through. I'm more interested in the

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Mika Hirvonen
Toad wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:05:42AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: So I've been working towards a Linux traffic shaper that gives sets no limits on traffic with domestic IP addresses and limits international traffic so the total monthly limit hits 5 Gb (my cap). HOW do you determine

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread TLD
Toad wrote: 2. I really suspect that more serious bandwidth limiting should be done at an operating system (router) level rather than at the Freenet level. I suspect that's what you'll be told around here. That way you can also take account of things happening other than your node. :-)

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Toad
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 08:42:28PM +0300, Mika Hirvonen wrote: Toad wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:05:42AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: So I've been working towards a Linux traffic shaper that gives sets no limits on traffic with domestic IP addresses and limits international traffic

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On 24/05/2004, at 11:32 PM, Wayne McDougall wrote: Phillip Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing that I can think of is limiting the size of incoming files not requested by the node directly - stop splitfiles and things going through. I'm more interested in the information, not movies, but

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:25:33PM +1200, Phillip Hutchings wrote: [bigger snip] Yeah, I'm looking at it, but there's no decent way to detect freenet packets. That's a feature :). Yeah, even on localhost :P IPTABLE's OWNER match target only works in the OUTPUT chain. I can't monitor something

Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On 25/05/2004, at 5:27 AM, Toad wrote: [snip] 2. I really suspect that more serious bandwidth limiting should be done at an operating system (router) level rather than at the Freenet level. I suspect that's what you'll be told around here. That way you can also take account of things happening

[freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Wayne McDougall
Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:05:42AM +, Wayne McDougall wrote: Perhaps. That would also lead to high message send times though. Freenet needs to know what the limit is even if you use external limiting. Fair enough. But given shared bandwidth needs shouldn't a

[freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?

2004-05-24 Thread Wayne McDougall
TLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is message send time a problem? I mean, AFAIK freenet is able to recognize links with higher latency and use them as little as possible, thus reducing the outbound traffic over those links in favour of local (=not-so-limited) nodes. I think message send time IS