Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-08-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
NoOp wrote: On 08/01/2011 12:47 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-08-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bill Spikowski wrote: hawker wrote: As a side note: I hate to complain here. I find most of the complaining here to be unwarranted. To read this forum when SM went from 1.x to 2.0 the sky was falling. Most of the show stoppers I hear were issues I never saw, or felt were not a big deal. So

Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-08-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jens Hatlak wrote: hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just a bad build that we will get past. What is the feeling of

Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-08-01 Thread NoOp
On 08/01/2011 12:47 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just a bad build

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-29 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
WLS wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble, but I want SeaMonkey to do what all modern browsers are starting to do, such as HTML5, CSS3, 3D, Web video without Flash support and more. As Jens Hatlak so correctly observed, there may well be sound /technical/ reasons for wanting to make changes to

Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-29 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Jens Hatlak wrote: 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, Jens, can you say more about this switch to the rapid release process, for the benefit of those of us who are outside the inner circle and are therefore probably unaware of what this rapid release

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-29 Thread Robert Kaiser
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb: This is rather different to simply slavishly emulating (or anticipating) what the competition are already doing or are about to do. Well, before (with the old search plugin implementation) we slavishly emulated what Apple had done a long time ago, and

Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-29 Thread Jens Hatlak
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, Jens, can you say more about this switch to the rapid release process, for the benefit of those of us who are outside the inner circle and are therefore

Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-29 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Jens Hatlak wrote: Basically it means that a new major stable version is released every six weeks, and security updates will only be fixed for that new version; the previous versions are discontinued instantly. Since the Mozilla platform (the rendering engine Gecko etc.) is bound to the

Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread hawker
So in SM 2.0 and before the sidebar search displayed the search results in both the browser window and below the search input. This was great if I wanted to try different search results and not have to either use the back button or open in new tab/window. 2.2 lost this functionality and the

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
hawker wrote: As a side note: I hate to complain here. I find most of the complaining here to be unwarranted. To read this forum when SM went from 1.x to 2.0 the sky was falling. Most of the show stoppers I hear were issues I never saw, or felt were not a big deal. So most of the gloom and

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread Robert Kaiser
hawker schrieb: So in SM 2.0 and before the sidebar search displayed the search results in both the browser window and below the search input. Unfortunately that's not possible in this way with the new search mechanism we switched to in 2.1 and later. This is unfortunate, but OTOH the older

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Robert Kaiser wrote: hawker schrieb: So in SM 2.0 and before the sidebar search displayed the search results in both the browser window and below the search input. Unfortunately that's not possible in this way with the new search mechanism we switched to in 2.1 and later. This is

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread Bill Spikowski
hawker wrote: As a side note: I hate to complain here. I find most of the complaining here to be unwarranted. To read this forum when SM went from 1.x to 2.0 the sky was falling. Most of the show stoppers I hear were issues I never saw, or felt were not a big deal. So most of the gloom and doom

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread hawker
On 7/28/2011 12:50 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: hawker schrieb: So in SM 2.0 and before the sidebar search displayed the search results in both the browser window and below the search input. Unfortunately that's not possible in this way with the new search mechanism we switched to in 2.1 and

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread Jens Hatlak
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: This is unfortunate, but OTOH the older mechanism couldn't support the OpenSearch standard all other browser support, At the risk of sounding confrontational (which is not my intent) doing what all other browsers do is not, I suggest, why most of us

SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread Jens Hatlak
hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just a bad build that we will get past. What is the feeling of the development team

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread WLS
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: hawker schrieb: So in SM 2.0 and before the sidebar search displayed the search results in both the browser window and below the search input. Unfortunately that's not possible in this way with the new search mechanism

Re: Sidebar Search change in 2.2

2011-07-28 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:00:39 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: hawker schrieb: So in SM 2.0 and before the sidebar search displayed the search results in both the browser window and below the search input. Unfortunately that's not possible