Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-05-02 Thread Reiner Schug
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with irc you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. You can also /ignore users and when you (mozilla.org)

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-30 Thread Daniel
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 29/04/2019 6:15 PM: Reiner Schug wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time to support paid people. Mozilla is

Re: moznet retirement (was: Staying alive - how can I help?)

2019-04-29 Thread Felix Miata
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2019-04-29 11:57 (UTC+0200): > It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with > irc > you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence > opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. There is

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread GerardJan
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Reiner, please send me an email. FRG Reiner Schug wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ...     Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine!     A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with irc you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. FRG Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: The rest of the article explains why this

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Reiner, please send me an email. FRG Reiner Schug wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ...     Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine!     A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part of that. A: IRC is not

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Reiner Schug
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine! A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part of that. A: IRC is not fine. new Q: WTF is wrong with IRC? Explain. Why not make a

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son
Reiner Schug wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in > the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time > to support paid people. Mozilla is completely nuts... now they will shutdown their

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-28 Thread Reiner Schug
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in > the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time > to support paid people. Mozilla is completely nuts... now they will shutdown their IRC servers, because "In