Re: [OT] Bye Bye UUCP!

2010-12-25 Thread Jens Hatlak

Tony Mechelynck wrote:

Have a merry Christmas, Philip, and a happy New Year :-) ! Midnight
(my time) is in three and a quarter hours (about), yours in several
more if you are back home and not visiting family in Britain — I
shall have a thought for you and all the nice SeaMonkey guys tomorrow
when we cut the cake at my nephew's.


Merry Christmas everyone!


(Why so few girls BTW? Is monkeying around with a Suite so
unladylike?)


Few? That's understatement. :-)

No, really, looking at female participation in bigger projects, like FF 
or KDE, you can clearly see that engagement is mainly (not entirely!) 
concentrated in more social areas like marketing (which is non-existent 
in our group), communication, community-building (think Test Pilot etc.) 
and the like. I'm not saying that's a bad thing; not at all. It's just 
fundamentally different from what the SM devs are doing (and like to do, 
for the most part). And just saying we need more women isn't enough, 
so much is clear. Someone would need to get some activity in the above 
areas started first before female participation could be expected or 
hoped for.


Note that TB doesn't have too many women working on the project either 
AFAIK. You might find some parallels there.


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Firefox discards Unfinished Edit Box typed text when I accidentally hit some secret key combination for the BACK button and makes me want to scream bloody murder!!!

2010-12-25 Thread Ant
Ooh, I would love to see for SeaMonkey v2.x web browser too but don't 
see one. Hence, my CC'ed to mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup to ask 
(yes, e-mailed the author/developer too). :(



On 12/24/2010 5:08 PM PT, Joan F (MI) typed:


Here's what you need to recover the lost text regardless of the cause, it
really works, I have used it:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6984/

CHOPPERGIRL wrote:
| I love Firefox, I use it as my primary web browser, but many times I
| want to scream bloody murder at it because it destroys a lot of work I
| just created.  This happens so many times its become...   a serious
| PITA.
|
| I will be typing on my laptop replying to a post in a comment box such
| as this, to rebuttal or reply to someone's post.   I will type a super
| long, highly complicated and involved intellectual reply, and then in
| the course of my typing somewhere near the end, I will hit some hidden
| key combination on the keyboard that is a shortcut for something (the
| browser back function) to have everything in my comment box lost
| because the page does a BACK and reloads.   ARR!
| SCREAM! WTF YOU @#$%^*
|
| I press the forward browser button, hoping against all hope my comment
| box will still be there with my unfinished text.  But its all gone.
| All gone.  An hours worth of work, erased.   I am furious.  I am
| livid.
|
| I can only guess this key combination is probably a Control-B, or a
| Control-Left arrow, or something I am unaware of... that I have no
| idea how I would be hitting in the course of typing a plain text
| English reply as I'm a skilled typist.  I am also sure, there is a way
| to override this combination in Firefox settings, or redefine it, if I
| knew what it was, but that's really beside the point.  This rotten key
| combination, whatever it is, needs to be removed by default, OR BETTER
| YET, these rotten form comment boxes need to be improved so data is
| saved in them and remembered so if you accidentally navigate away from
| a page some how, you can come back, and your unfinished text will be
| reestablished inside the form edit boxes where you left off.
|
| I am sure you are saying, this is impossible given the way the edit
| boxes are made using the OS's subsystem widgets.   I say, MAKE IT
| POSSIBLE.  Figure out a way.

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Re: Streaming Broadcasts

2010-12-25 Thread Rick Merrill

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/23/10 8:13 PM, dev wrote:

/David E. Ross/ said:

I'm finding more and more Web sites with streaming broadcasts that
use Flash or some application embedded in a Web page to play the
stream. This means that, as soon as I go to another Web page or
change my profile, I lose the broadcast.  Sometimes, this also
happens with Windows Media Player, for which I recently disabled the
plugin.

Is there some way (perhaps an extension) that forces such a stream
into an application external to SeaMonkey (e.g., Winamp, RealPlayer)
so that playing the stream is no longer tied to a particular Web
page?


FILE|OPEN WEB PAGE|OPEN IN NEW BROWSER WINDOW.

The new window won't disturb the old.

Or trySHIFTclicking on the SM icon in the taskbar.  That should start
another instance, which will open browser, mail, composer or the address
book, depending upon which you have SM configured to open, under
EDIT|PREFS|APPEARANCE.


Oh, I know I can use tabbed browsing or a new window to continue playing
the streamed broadcast.  But I want to change profiles; I have four
different SeaMonkey profiles.  When I change profiles, any extra
SeaMonkey windows or tabs close.  Then I lose the broadcast.


If you change profiles you can't 'see' what's in the other profiles (nor hear).

stick to 'dev's advice.



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Re: Streaming Broadcasts

2010-12-25 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/25/10 4:37 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/23/10 8:13 PM, dev wrote:
 /David E. Ross/ said:
 I'm finding more and more Web sites with streaming broadcasts that
 use Flash or some application embedded in a Web page to play the
 stream. This means that, as soon as I go to another Web page or
 change my profile, I lose the broadcast.  Sometimes, this also
 happens with Windows Media Player, for which I recently disabled the
 plugin.

 Is there some way (perhaps an extension) that forces such a stream
 into an application external to SeaMonkey (e.g., Winamp, RealPlayer)
 so that playing the stream is no longer tied to a particular Web
 page?

 FILE|OPEN WEB PAGE|OPEN IN NEW BROWSER WINDOW.

 The new window won't disturb the old.

 Or trySHIFTclicking on the SM icon in the taskbar.  That should start
 another instance, which will open browser, mail, composer or the address
 book, depending upon which you have SM configured to open, under
 EDIT|PREFS|APPEARANCE.

 Oh, I know I can use tabbed browsing or a new window to continue playing
 the streamed broadcast.  But I want to change profiles; I have four
 different SeaMonkey profiles.  When I change profiles, any extra
 SeaMonkey windows or tabs close.  Then I lose the broadcast.
 
 If you change profiles you can't 'see' what's in the other profiles (nor 
 hear).
 
 stick to 'dev's advice.

If I select a link on a Web page for a streaming broadcast and that
causes Winamp or RealPlayer to launch, the broadcast continues playing
when I switch profiles or even terminate SeaMonkey.  I want to find a
way to launch an external application when the link would otherwise play
via Flash or some other embedded Web page application.



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Re: Pop up using Web Mail

2010-12-25 Thread Ed Mullen

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:18:27 -0500, /Ed Mullen/:


Using SM 2.1b1 on Win 7 and Web Mail in the browser.

When I right-click on a folder in my Web Mail I get a SM pop-up menu.

http://edmullen.net/temp/webmail1.jpg

If I press ESC the SM window goes away and reveals the Web Mail popup:

http://edmullen.net/temp/webmail2.jpg

This didn't used to happen in previous versions of SM.  The Web Mail
menu came up with no SM popup happening.

It's not fatal but it is annoying.  Any thoughts?


Do you have Edit -  Preferences: Advanced / Scripts  Plugins:

[x] Disable or replace context menus

checked?  I have it unchecked because it is more annoying for me
when a page tries to disable my context menus, and I do experience
the behavior you're describing.



I had a feeling you would have the answer!  :-)

Thanks, that did the trick.

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Re: Blank newsgroup post on GigaNews?

2010-12-25 Thread Ant

On 12/15/2010 5:04 AM PT, Ant typed:


Has anyone seen this blank post behavior happen on the newsgroups in
SeaMonkey v2 in Windows XP Pro. SP3? Here is a screen shot
sample/example:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6964/blanknewsgroupposts.gif ... Saving
this post as a text file resulted 0 bytes. Unsubscribing and
resubscribing did not fix the problem either.

It seems to happen RARELY with GigaNews' posts. I know the posts are
fine because I can see them in Tin through Linux with the same NSP
account and Google Groups. It seems like SM2 is doing something weird.


I see it occasionally but I find that if I mark it as unread, exit
and restart SM, the post will show up.


I will have to try that. That's annoying though!


Weird. This trick does not always work. I am doing one right now, and it 
didn't work. It worked in the past too since this suggestion. I will 
have to read the blank post on another newsreader client (Tin). :(

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Re: Streaming Broadcasts

2010-12-25 Thread Rick Merrill

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/25/10 4:37 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/23/10 8:13 PM, dev wrote:

/David E. Ross/ said:

I'm finding more and more Web sites with streaming broadcasts that
use Flash or some application embedded in a Web page to play the
stream. This means that, as soon as I go to another Web page or
change my profile, I lose the broadcast.  Sometimes, this also
happens with Windows Media Player, for which I recently disabled the
plugin.

Is there some way (perhaps an extension) that forces such a stream
into an application external to SeaMonkey (e.g., Winamp, RealPlayer)
so that playing the stream is no longer tied to a particular Web
page?


FILE|OPEN WEB PAGE|OPEN IN NEW BROWSER WINDOW.

The new window won't disturb the old.

Or trySHIFTclicking on the SM icon in the taskbar.  That should start
another instance, which will open browser, mail, composer or the address
book, depending upon which you have SM configured to open, under
EDIT|PREFS|APPEARANCE.


Oh, I know I can use tabbed browsing or a new window to continue playing
the streamed broadcast.  But I want to change profiles; I have four
different SeaMonkey profiles.  When I change profiles, any extra
SeaMonkey windows or tabs close.  Then I lose the broadcast.


If you change profiles you can't 'see' what's in the other profiles (nor hear).

stick to 'dev's advice.


If I select a link on a Web page for a streaming broadcast and that
causes Winamp or RealPlayer to launch, the broadcast continues playing
when I switch profiles or even terminate SeaMonkey.  I want to find a
way to launch an external application when the link would otherwise play
via Flash or some other embedded Web page application.


There is a feature, that I have not used, called run with different credentials - 
that sounds like it might be what you need.




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Re: Streaming Broadcasts

2010-12-25 Thread cyberzen

David E. Ross a écrit :

On 12/25/10 4:37 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/23/10 8:13 PM, dev wrote:

/David E. Ross/ said:

I'm finding more and more Web sites with streaming broadcasts that
use Flash or some application embedded in a Web page to play the
stream. This means that, as soon as I go to another Web page or
change my profile, I lose the broadcast.  Sometimes, this also
happens with Windows Media Player, for which I recently disabled the
plugin.

Is there some way (perhaps an extension) that forces such a stream
into an application external to SeaMonkey (e.g., Winamp, RealPlayer)
so that playing the stream is no longer tied to a particular Web
page?


FILE|OPEN WEB PAGE|OPEN IN NEW BROWSER WINDOW.

The new window won't disturb the old.

Or trySHIFTclicking on the SM icon in the taskbar.  That should start
another instance, which will open browser, mail, composer or the address
book, depending upon which you have SM configured to open, under
EDIT|PREFS|APPEARANCE.


Oh, I know I can use tabbed browsing or a new window to continue playing
the streamed broadcast.  But I want to change profiles; I have four
different SeaMonkey profiles.  When I change profiles, any extra
SeaMonkey windows or tabs close.  Then I lose the broadcast.


If you change profiles you can't 'see' what's in the other profiles (nor hear).

stick to 'dev's advice.


If I select a link on a Web page for a streaming broadcast and that
causes Winamp or RealPlayer to launch, the broadcast continues playing
when I switch profiles or even terminate SeaMonkey.  I want to find a
way to launch an external application when the link would otherwise play
via Flash or some other embedded Web page application.




sounds that what you are asking was done by mediaplayerconnectivity
this is an addon working with SM1 or Firefox any release.
it can launch an external application depending of the embedded media

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Re: Streaming Broadcasts

2010-12-25 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/25/10 1:01 PM, cyberzen wrote:
 David E. Ross a écrit :
 On 12/25/10 4:37 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/23/10 8:13 PM, dev wrote:
 /David E. Ross/ said:
 I'm finding more and more Web sites with streaming broadcasts that
 use Flash or some application embedded in a Web page to play the
 stream. This means that, as soon as I go to another Web page or
 change my profile, I lose the broadcast.  Sometimes, this also
 happens with Windows Media Player, for which I recently disabled the
 plugin.

 Is there some way (perhaps an extension) that forces such a stream
 into an application external to SeaMonkey (e.g., Winamp, RealPlayer)
 so that playing the stream is no longer tied to a particular Web
 page?

 FILE|OPEN WEB PAGE|OPEN IN NEW BROWSER WINDOW.

 The new window won't disturb the old.

 Or trySHIFTclicking on the SM icon in the taskbar.  That should start
 another instance, which will open browser, mail, composer or the address
 book, depending upon which you have SM configured to open, under
 EDIT|PREFS|APPEARANCE.

 Oh, I know I can use tabbed browsing or a new window to continue playing
 the streamed broadcast.  But I want to change profiles; I have four
 different SeaMonkey profiles.  When I change profiles, any extra
 SeaMonkey windows or tabs close.  Then I lose the broadcast.

 If you change profiles you can't 'see' what's in the other profiles (nor 
 hear).

 stick to 'dev's advice.

 If I select a link on a Web page for a streaming broadcast and that
 causes Winamp or RealPlayer to launch, the broadcast continues playing
 when I switch profiles or even terminate SeaMonkey.  I want to find a
 way to launch an external application when the link would otherwise play
 via Flash or some other embedded Web page application.



 sounds that what you are asking was done by mediaplayerconnectivity
 this is an addon working with SM1 or Firefox any release.
 it can launch an external application depending of the embedded media
 

I downloaded mediaplayerconnectivity 0.9.3 from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ and tried to install it.  I
got an error popup saying that it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.11.

I searched https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/ for
mediaplayerconnectivity, but it could not be found there.

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Re: Streaming Broadcasts

2010-12-25 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/25/10 1:45 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/25/10 1:01 PM, cyberzen wrote:
 David E. Ross a écrit :
 On 12/25/10 4:37 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/23/10 8:13 PM, dev wrote:
 /David E. Ross/ said:
 I'm finding more and more Web sites with streaming broadcasts that
 use Flash or some application embedded in a Web page to play the
 stream. This means that, as soon as I go to another Web page or
 change my profile, I lose the broadcast.  Sometimes, this also
 happens with Windows Media Player, for which I recently disabled the
 plugin.

 Is there some way (perhaps an extension) that forces such a stream
 into an application external to SeaMonkey (e.g., Winamp, RealPlayer)
 so that playing the stream is no longer tied to a particular Web
 page?

 FILE|OPEN WEB PAGE|OPEN IN NEW BROWSER WINDOW.

 The new window won't disturb the old.

 Or trySHIFTclicking on the SM icon in the taskbar.  That should start
 another instance, which will open browser, mail, composer or the address
 book, depending upon which you have SM configured to open, under
 EDIT|PREFS|APPEARANCE.

 Oh, I know I can use tabbed browsing or a new window to continue playing
 the streamed broadcast.  But I want to change profiles; I have four
 different SeaMonkey profiles.  When I change profiles, any extra
 SeaMonkey windows or tabs close.  Then I lose the broadcast.

 If you change profiles you can't 'see' what's in the other profiles (nor 
 hear).

 stick to 'dev's advice.

 If I select a link on a Web page for a streaming broadcast and that
 causes Winamp or RealPlayer to launch, the broadcast continues playing
 when I switch profiles or even terminate SeaMonkey.  I want to find a
 way to launch an external application when the link would otherwise play
 via Flash or some other embedded Web page application.



 sounds that what you are asking was done by mediaplayerconnectivity
 this is an addon working with SM1 or Firefox any release.
 it can launch an external application depending of the embedded media

 
 I downloaded mediaplayerconnectivity 0.9.3 from
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ and tried to install it.  I
 got an error popup saying that it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.11.
 
 I searched https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/ for
 mediaplayerconnectivity, but it could not be found there.
 

I also tried downloading mediaplayerconnectivity 0.9.1 from the
developer's own Web site at
http://membres.multimania.fr/sethnakht/index.php.  There, I saw: For
FireFox 0.9-2.0, Mozilla 1.7-1.8, Seam Monkey 1.0, Netscape 8-8.1.
0.9.1 was released two years ago, when SeaMonkey was indeed still at 1.x.

I got an error popup that said: mediaplayerconnectivity 0.9.1 could not
be installed because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.11.

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Re: Firefox discards Unfinished Edit Box typed text when I accidentally hit some secret key combination for the BACK button and makes me want to scream bloody murder!!!

2010-12-25 Thread Ant

FYI from the developer about SeaMonkey v2's extension:

Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 10:29:00 +1300
From: Karl
To: Ant
Subject: Re: Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.0,.x support?
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13)
Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7

Hi Ant,

Sorry, no, not at this point. Also all my efforts at the moment are
working on the new version of Lazarus that works for chrome, safari
and firefox. It shouldn't be too hard to expand that to work with the
mozilla suite though, because it no longer uses binary components for
the encryption process.

I'll look into it.
Karl


On 12/25/2010 3:27 AM PT, Ant typed:


Ooh, I would love to see for SeaMonkey v2.x web browser too but don't
see one. Hence, my CC'ed to mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup to ask
(yes, e-mailed the author/developer too). :(


On 12/24/2010 5:08 PM PT, Joan F (MI) typed:


Here's what you need to recover the lost text regardless of the cause, it
really works, I have used it:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6984/

CHOPPERGIRL wrote:
| I love Firefox, I use it as my primary web browser, but many times I
| want to scream bloody murder at it because it destroys a lot of work I
| just created. This happens so many times its become... a serious
| PITA.
|
| I will be typing on my laptop replying to a post in a comment box such
| as this, to rebuttal or reply to someone's post. I will type a super
| long, highly complicated and involved intellectual reply, and then in
| the course of my typing somewhere near the end, I will hit some hidden
| key combination on the keyboard that is a shortcut for something (the
| browser back function) to have everything in my comment box lost
| because the page does a BACK and reloads. ARR!
| SCREAM! WTF YOU @#$%^*
|
| I press the forward browser button, hoping against all hope my comment
| box will still be there with my unfinished text. But its all gone.
| All gone. An hours worth of work, erased. I am furious. I am
| livid.
|
| I can only guess this key combination is probably a Control-B, or a
| Control-Left arrow, or something I am unaware of... that I have no
| idea how I would be hitting in the course of typing a plain text
| English reply as I'm a skilled typist. I am also sure, there is a way
| to override this combination in Firefox settings, or redefine it, if I
| knew what it was, but that's really beside the point. This rotten key
| combination, whatever it is, needs to be removed by default, OR BETTER
| YET, these rotten form comment boxes need to be improved so data is
| saved in them and remembered so if you accidentally navigate away from
| a page some how, you can come back, and your unfinished text will be
| reestablished inside the form edit boxes where you left off.
|
| I am sure you are saying, this is impossible given the way the edit
| boxes are made using the OS's subsystem widgets. I say, MAKE IT
| POSSIBLE. Figure out a way.

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Can't play wat.tv videos

2010-12-25 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Anyone having trouble with this site? I'm wondering if it's me or them 
(I think it's probably them).


http://www.wat.tv/video/you-are-my-destiny-178-2yq75_2yotz_.html
http://www.wat.tv/video/you-are-my-destiny-178-2yq8h_2yotz_.html

Video appears to load, but doesn't autostart as it normally would, 
mouseover doesn't reveal controls, and play button does nothing.


Here are a couple that do work:
http://www.wat.tv/video/agooddayforthewindtoblow170-380ml_380jp_.html
http://www.wat.tv/video/agooddayforthewindtoblow170-380mj_380jp_.html

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Re: Can't play wat.tv videos

2010-12-25 Thread d...@kd4e.com

I tried it in Seamonkey and Midori, same result, no content.

Curiously, the first one, entered into Midori with a typo of g
instead of q, links-out to a viva espana directory with a
notice Sorry, this video is not available from your country.

Question:  Why would they not provide a translator link to other
languages?

 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Anyone having trouble with this site? I'm wondering if it's me or them
(I think it's probably them).

http://www.wat.tv/video/you-are-my-destiny-178-2yq75_2yotz_.html
http://www.wat.tv/video/you-are-my-destiny-178-2yq8h_2yotz_.html

Video appears to load, but doesn't autostart as it normally would,
mouseover doesn't reveal controls, and play button does nothing.

Here are a couple that do work:
http://www.wat.tv/video/agooddayforthewindtoblow170-380ml_380jp_.html
http://www.wat.tv/video/agooddayforthewindtoblow170-380mj_380jp_.html



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