Re: Google Maps
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: Thanks -- I'll keep experimenting and see if I can isolate this problem; it may be unique to my setup It wasn't clear from your original post - are you holding Ctrl while scrolling the mouse wheel to zoom Google Maps, in the same way as you can for any other web page? If you are doing that, try scrolling without holding Ctrl. Google Maps implements its own zooming behaviour on scrolling, so it may confuse things if SeaMonkey's zooming is also being activated. I wasn't using CTRL -- just scrolling the mouse wheel -- normal Google Maps behavior. Clicking the + and - buttons in Google Maps still works fine. I had gotten comfortable using the mouse wheel because it's faster -- but now it won't stop scrolling when I let go of the mouse wheel! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Cross posting
It seem that cross posting is barred. It is extremely annoying that when replying to a post that is cross posted, first it does not go anywhere and when I discover this I have to manually post to each NG in turn which means removing each address in turn and posting separately. Is this sea monkey that does this or is it astraweb? Is there any way round this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Too many messages
Hi there. I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing about. Please remove me from any list I may be on. Thanks, Mark DeWolf Halifax ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Rickles wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: If it does the same thing at all, less or more frequently than in SM, try updating your mouse driver. Sometimes something that simple can make all the difference. The mouse is new in the last couple of months, and I do have the latest driver installed (and Logitech's SetPoint mouse software). I've turned off several unexplained features in SetPoint (like SetPoint Implementation and Smart Move) but the Google Maps behavior persists. I tried restarting SM with all add-ons disabled; no change in this behavior. I'm recalling that I've ditched every wireless mouse and trackball I've ever tried, due to odd usability problems with every one (laggy behavior; unacceptable battery consumption, you name it). I bought this Anywhere MX mouse as a travel mouse but it feels great and works so well that I want to make it my permanent mouse on my desktop machines . . . . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
F Murtz wrote: It seem that cross posting is barred. It is extremely annoying that when replying to a post that is cross posted, first it does not go anywhere and when I discover this I have to manually post to each NG in turn which means removing each address in turn and posting separately. Is this sea monkey that does this or is it astraweb? Is there any way round this? I think it is not Seamonkey's fault. Probably something in the server configuration. Many servers hate crossposters and have limits on them. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
NoOp wrote: SeaMonkey doesn't fail silently when connecting to Eternal-September - you should be getting the following message: Peer's Certificate issuer is not recognized. unless you've imported the root ca. See: I know that. I don't have CAcert's certificate but I am not getting a warning either. Maybe it is something related to some weird plugin. I will give it a try later. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
I have performer further tests. I have tried to connect to news.eternal-september.org using NNTPS without installing the CAcert certificate. It silently drops the connection. I have installed CAcert's certificates and retried. Then it worked. No plugins were enabled duting these tests. My conclusion is, as I had already told, that my Seamonkey is dropping the connections when there is a SSL or TLS certificate problem and gives no warning to the user. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Too many messages
Mark DeWolf wrote: I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing about. Please remove me from any list I may be on. Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make. List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey, mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org? subject=unsubscribe If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do the unsubscribe step for each one. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
On 1/12/2015 10:13 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Rickles wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: If it does the same thing at all, less or more frequently than in SM, try updating your mouse driver. Sometimes something that simple can make all the difference. The mouse is new in the last couple of months, and I do have the latest driver installed (and Logitech's SetPoint mouse software). I've turned off several unexplained features in SetPoint (like SetPoint Implementation and Smart Move) but the Google Maps behavior persists. I tried restarting SM with all add-ons disabled; no change in this behavior. I'm recalling that I've ditched every wireless mouse and trackball I've ever tried, due to odd usability problems with every one (laggy behavior; unacceptable battery consumption, you name it). I bought this Anywhere MX mouse as a travel mouse but it feels great and works so well that I want to make it my permanent mouse on my desktop machines . . . . You may be on to something. I too use the nicer logitec mice, but I keep having software incompatibility issues with the Logitech drivers. In the end I use the mouse but do not install the logitec drives and my problems go away. I actually just disable the starting of the driver in AutoRuns as I sometimes need it to set features. You can RMB on the driver window and exit set point to regain MS control of the driver and see if that changes anything. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Jonathan N. Little wrote on 12/01/2015 16:52: running SM 2.26 and Still don't understand why folks refuse to update their browser. Because i have ben told that 2.32 could resolve my SM crash when moving around the street in StreetView of GoogleMaps per example. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Too many messages
On 01/12/2015 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Mark DeWolf wrote: I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing about. Please remove me from any list I may be on. Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make. List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey, mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org? subject=unsubscribe If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do the unsubscribe step for each one. Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups. One wonders what Mark was looking for by subscribing to the SeaMonkey support mailing list. I wouldn't exactly know what e-mail service means. Perhaps he would like to subscribe to the RSS feed for project news? [SeaMonkey News](http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news) -- Strip District Music Fest 2015-01-17 http://www.stripdistrictmusicfest.com/ Je Suis Charlie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
Richard Falken wrote on 12/01/2015 15:33: F Murtz wrote: It seem that cross posting is barred. It is extremely annoying that when replying to a post that is cross posted, first it does not go anywhere and when I discover this I have to manually post to each NG in turn which means removing each address in turn and posting separately. Is this sea monkey that does this or is it astraweb? Is there any way round this? I think it is not Seamonkey's fault. Probably something in the server configuration. Many servers hate crossposters and have limits on them. SM under news.mozilla.org refuse that you cross-post if you have not subscribed to all group present in the crosspost. (I think, if I remember) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Too many messages
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Mark DeWolf wrote: I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing about. Please remove me from any list I may be on. Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make. List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey, mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org? subject=unsubscribe If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do the unsubscribe step for each one. Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Bill Spikowski wrote: I wonder if anyone else is experiencing trouble recently while zooming Google Maps in Seamonkey. In recent months I've noticed erratic zooming in Google Maps with various browsers, but only in Seamonkey is it so pronounced as to make Google Maps unusable. The problem occurs while zooming in with a mouse scroll wheel; the zoom continues (erratically) after I've reached my desired zoom level. In Firefox and Chrome, it seems to only zoom one extra zoom level, but in Seamonkey it will zoom maybe 5 or more zoom levels, letting me count oranges on the trees when I'm trying to understand an entire neighborhood. The problem is limited to Google Maps; I can use the mouse wheel and the control key to zoom in and out of any other web pages in Seamonkey without incident. My mouse is a Logitech Anywhere MX wireless model; Okay. I have a G5 as well running SM 2.26 and Still don't understand why folks refuse to update their browser. Windows XP (yes, I understand the problems with both, but I have my reasons) I you you do, unpatch OS so why not stop patching your browser, eh? As side of the suggestions for Logitech Setpoint, what are your setting for scrollwheel in Seamonkey? Preferences Advance Mouse Wheel Google maps works just fine for me with G5 SetPoint driver 5.80.4, SM 2.31, Win7 SP1 -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
On 1/12/2015 7:52 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote [in part]: Still don't understand why folks refuse to update their browser. I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
On 1/12/2015 12:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: hawker wrote: You may be on to something. I too use the nicer logitec mice, but I keep having software incompatibility issues with the Logitech drivers. In the end I use the mouse but do not install the logitec drives and my problems go away. I actually just disable the starting of the driver in AutoRuns as I sometimes need it to set features. You can RMB on the driver window and exit set point to regain MS control of the driver and see if that changes anything. I'll experiment with that! I always assumed that if Setpoint wasn't running, I'd lose all its configuration settings. But I just ended the process and I really can't tell any difference, except that the odd scrolling problem in Google Maps has suddenly gone away! I'm sure that without Setpoint I'll lose the low battery warning for my wireless mouse -- but that's insignificant since I know how the mouse starts acting when its battery is low. Now the test is to see if I've lost anything important. If not, this problem will be completely solved! Yep, I used Autoruns to stop Setpoint from starting and Google mousewheel scrolling is back to normal. I haven't seen loss of any other mouse function I need. Lem Johnson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: HenriK wrote: Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion of SM with Verizon FiOS? As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify: Server settings: Server Type: POP Mail Server Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995 User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Security Settings Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal Password Outgoing Server(SMTP) settings: Description: Verizon Server Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 User name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Authentication method: Normal password Connection Security: SSL/TLS Having followed these instructions (and I have five other e-mail accounts already working well with my SM v.2.30 installation), every time I try to log in to my new FiOS e-mail account I get an authentication error and can't log into the account. The settings you describe work fine for me. They're not as secure as they might be (other possibilities might also exist), but they do work. To check whether I was using the right user name and password, I logged into Verizon's webmail and have been repeatedly successful with what I understand to be my correct user name and password in pulling up my FiOS e-mail account via Verizon webmail. Might anyone have any ideas on what might be blocking the authentication process when I enter my FiOS password? I'm baffled. I can only think that you've entered the password incorrectly in SM. Try this: Tools | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords Scroll down to verizon.net and select it, you should see two entries on the right: mailbox://mail.verizon.net (mailbox://mail.verizon.net) smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net) Click the button at bottom right, Show Passwords and examine them with a fine-tooth comb. Remember, they're case-sensitive. If worse comes to worst, do the same thing on a working system and compare them side-by-side. If one or both passwords proves to be wrong, just delete that entry. The next time you try to send a message (SMTP) or get messages (POP), you'll be prompted for the password, and you can enter it. If you like, on a working system, open a Notepad window. Then for each of the entries in Password Manager, right-click and choose Copy password and paste it into the text file. Save onto a USB stick or something and walk it across to the trouble system, where you can copy/paste it into SeaMonkey's dialog when it prompts you for the password. Be sure to delete the file when done. Good idea. I deleted all Verizon listings in Password Manager logged out of SeaMonkey and rebooted the PC. When I next tried to log into my new Verizon e-mail account, it again failed with the usual authentication failure message. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
Cruz, Jaime wrote: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: HenriK wrote: Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion of SM with Verizon FiOS? As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify: Server settings: Server Type: POP Mail Server Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995 User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Try incoming.verizon.net instead. -JW That is what I have. And for the SMTP server, it is outgoing.verizon.net. I have now tried substituting 'incoming.verizon.net' for 'pop.verizon.net' and 'outgoing.verizon.net' for 'smtp.verizon.net'. Neither of these substitutions solved my log-in authentication problem. I'm utterly baffled. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A question
On 11/01/2015 23:32, Ray_Net wrote: Mason83 wrote on 11/01/2015 21:55: On 11/01/2015 21:15, Mark DeWolf wrote: Is there a way in Sea Monkey to import an entire site and work on it one page at a time? man curl man wget The op use : Apple Mail (2.1993) So your commands work on his system ? Well, wget is GPLv3, so Apple would rather blow up the Sun than touch it. cURL however is under a MIT/X derivate license, so yes; Apple even packages it. https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/curl.1.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
On 01/12/2015 05:08 PM, HenriK wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: HenriK wrote: Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion of SM with Verizon FiOS? As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify: Server settings: Server Type: POP Mail Server Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995 User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Try incoming.verizon.net instead. -JW That is what I have. And for the SMTP server, it is outgoing.verizon.net. I have now tried substituting 'incoming.verizon.net' for 'pop.verizon.net' and 'outgoing.verizon.net' for 'smtp.verizon.net'. Neither of these substitutions solved my log-in authentication problem. I'm utterly baffled. Sounds like a Verizon problem. Have you tried a test profile with just that account setup? -- Strip District Music Fest 2015-01-17 http://www.stripdistrictmusicfest.com/ Je Suis Charlie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
WaltS48 wrote: On 01/12/2015 05:08 PM, HenriK wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: HenriK wrote: Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion of SM with Verizon FiOS? As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify: Server settings: Server Type: POP Mail Server Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995 User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Try incoming.verizon.net instead. -JW That is what I have. And for the SMTP server, it is outgoing.verizon.net. I have now tried substituting 'incoming.verizon.net' for 'pop.verizon.net' and 'outgoing.verizon.net' for 'smtp.verizon.net'. Neither of these substitutions solved my log-in authentication problem. I'm utterly baffled. Sounds like a Verizon problem. Have you tried a test profile with just that account setup? What, precisely, do you mean by test profile? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
HenriK wrote: Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion of SM with Verizon FiOS? As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify: Server settings: Server Type: POP Mail Server Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995 User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Security Settings Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal Password Outgoing Server(SMTP) settings: Description: Verizon Server Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 User name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Authentication method: Normal password Connection Security: SSL/TLS Having followed these instructions (and I have five other e-mail accounts already working well with my SM v.2.30 installation), every time I try to log in to my new FiOS e-mail account I get an authentication error and can't log into the account. To check whether I was using the right user name and password, I logged into Verizon's webmail and have been repeatedly successful with what I understand to be my correct user name and password in pulling up my FiOS e-mail account via Verizon webmail. Might anyone have any ideas on what might be blocking the authentication process when I enter my FiOS password? I'm baffled. Thanks, in advance for comments, recommendations, suggestions, or whatever. Just in case the text of the authentication failure message is somehow important in solving this problem, the EXACT text I am receiving is: Mail server incoming.verizon.net responded: Authentication failed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Jonathan N. Little wrote on 12/01/2015 18:03: Ray_Net wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote on 12/01/2015 16:52: running SM 2.26 and Still don't understand why folks refuse to update their browser. Because i have ben told that 2.32 could resolve my SM crash when moving around the street in StreetView of GoogleMaps per example. ??? StreetView works just fine on 2.31 as it did in each version between. The only issue with 2.31 is temporary URL shortcuts are missing the icon because the cached file is a zero-byte file in shortcutCache. StreetView works also fine ...but after a certain time ...moving along the road . Bingo ! an SM CRASH per example https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/945db222-4521-4c03-a2e7-c9b512141228 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
HenriK wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 01/12/2015 05:08 PM, HenriK wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: HenriK wrote: Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion of SM with Verizon FiOS? As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify: Server settings: Server Type: POP Mail Server Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995 User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Try incoming.verizon.net instead. -JW That is what I have. And for the SMTP server, it is outgoing.verizon.net. I have now tried substituting 'incoming.verizon.net' for 'pop.verizon.net' and 'outgoing.verizon.net' for 'smtp.verizon.net'. Neither of these substitutions solved my log-in authentication problem. I'm utterly baffled. Sounds like a Verizon problem. Have you tried a test profile with just that account setup? What, precisely, do you mean by test profile? One with just your Verizon account. Start SeaMonkey, select Tools Switch Profile. In the dialog box that opens click the Manage Profiles button, then the Create Profile button, read the next page if you want, then click Next, give the profile a name, click Finish, click Use Profile. SeaMonkey will open to that new profile. Open the Mail and Newsgroups window, setup your Verizon account and see if that connects. I would suggest using Verizon's suggested pop.verizon.net and smtp.verizon.net settings. They changed that awhile back IIRC. Carefully enter your password so you don't have any typos, make sure Caps Lock isn't on, and all that stuff. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
F Murtz wrote: It seem that cross posting is barred. It is extremely annoying that when replying to a post that is cross posted, first it does not go anywhere and when I discover this I have to manually post to each NG in turn which means removing each address in turn and posting separately. Is this sea monkey that does this or is it astraweb? Is there any way round this? Use Reply All instead of Reply. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
HenriK wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I can only think that you've entered the password incorrectly in SM. Try this: Tools | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords Scroll down to verizon.net and select it, you should see two entries on the right: mailbox://mail.verizon.net (mailbox://mail.verizon.net) smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net) Click the button at bottom right, Show Passwords and examine them with a fine-tooth comb. Remember, they're case-sensitive. If worse comes to worst, do the same thing on a working system and compare them side-by-side. If one or both passwords proves to be wrong, just delete that entry. The next time you try to send a message (SMTP) or get messages (POP), you'll be prompted for the password, and you can enter it. If you like, on a working system, open a Notepad window. Then for each of the entries in Password Manager, right-click and choose Copy password and paste it into the text file. Save onto a USB stick or something and walk it across to the trouble system, where you can copy/paste it into SeaMonkey's dialog when it prompts you for the password. Be sure to delete the file when done. Good idea. I deleted all Verizon listings in Password Manager logged out of SeaMonkey and rebooted the PC. When I next tried to log into my new Verizon e-mail account, it again failed with the usual authentication failure message. Didn't SM invite you to enter your password? How did that go? If so, and if you've reentered your password and still failed, then we've ruled out bad passwords, and we've ruled out bad server settings, so what's left? When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Bad username? (Could you have mistyped it in the SM settings?) Bad connection? (Probably not, if the server can hear you and reply. Can you browse normally on the trouble system?) -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Bulk] support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 109, Issue 22
Email verizon try placing your emaill address in user name - this got me in. support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote: Send support-seamonkey mailing list submissions to support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org You can reach the person managing the list at support-seamonkey-ow...@lists.mozilla.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail (Ed) 2. Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail (Paul B. Gallagher) 3. Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail (Jonathan N. Little) 4. Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail (Jonathan N. Little) 5. Re: tempted to abandon seamonkey - can firefox be made acceptable? (NoOp) 6. Re: tempted to abandon seamonkey - can firefox be made acceptable? (Rufus) 7. Re: tempted to abandon seamonkey - can firefox be made acceptable? (Rufus) 8. Re: Google Maps (David E. Ross) 9. Re: Bookmark backups (Daniel) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 20:08:41 -0500 From: Ed ed.nara...@verizon.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail Message-ID: ykqdnxivwysauczjnz2dnuu7-uwdn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 1/10/2015 3:13 PM, HenriK wrote: Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion of SM with Verizon FiOS? As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify: Server settings: Server Type: POP Mail Server Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995 User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Security Settings Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal Password Outgoing Server(SMTP) settings: Description: Verizon Server Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 User name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net) Authentication method: Normal password Connection Security: SSL/TLS Having followed these instructions (and I have five other e-mail accounts already working well with my SM v.2.30 installation), every time I try to log in to my new FiOS e-mail account I get an authentication error and can't log into the account. To check whether I was using the right user name and password, I logged into Verizon's webmail and have been repeatedly successful with what I understand to be my correct user name and password in pulling up my FiOS e-mail account via Verizon webmail. Might anyone have any ideas on what might be blocking the authentication process when I enter my FiOS password? I'm baffled. Thanks, in advance for comments, recommendations, suggestions, or whatever. Looks good to me. That's the way I'm set up for on FiOS. I can offer no suggestions. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
On 1/12/2015 1:54 PM, Lemuel Johnson wrote: On 1/12/2015 12:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: hawker wrote: You may be on to something. I too use the nicer logitec mice, but I keep having software incompatibility issues with the Logitech drivers. In the end I use the mouse but do not install the logitec drives and my problems go away. I actually just disable the starting of the driver in AutoRuns as I sometimes need it to set features. You can RMB on the driver window and exit set point to regain MS control of the driver and see if that changes anything. I'll experiment with that! I always assumed that if Setpoint wasn't running, I'd lose all its configuration settings. But I just ended the process and I really can't tell any difference, except that the odd scrolling problem in Google Maps has suddenly gone away! I'm sure that without Setpoint I'll lose the low battery warning for my wireless mouse -- but that's insignificant since I know how the mouse starts acting when its battery is low. Now the test is to see if I've lost anything important. If not, this problem will be completely solved! Yep, I used Autoruns to stop Setpoint from starting and Google mousewheel scrolling is back to normal. I haven't seen loss of any other mouse function I need. Lem Johnson Glad to hear it isn't just me. I wish they could fix set point. It has never worked properly. The button assignments are also screwed up. Can't assign middle button to middle button or a key to be escape. You can assign it but it doesn't work as expected. Makes using ACAD and PADS PCB not work right for me. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
Rufus wrote: F Murtz wrote: It seem that cross posting is barred. It is extremely annoying that when replying to a post that is cross posted, first it does not go anywhere and when I discover this I have to manually post to each NG in turn which means removing each address in turn and posting separately. Is this sea monkey that does this or is it astraweb? Is there any way round this? Use Reply All instead of Reply. NO! Absolutely not! Just Reply in SeaMonkey (and TB) will reply to ALL listed newsgroups. When your click the Reply All in newsgroup mode replies to all the groups AND the to the email of the previous poster! That's how some novices keep emailing instead of just posting to the group. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
john sumner wrote: Rufus wrote: Use Reply All instead of Reply. but be carful where you cross post otherwise people will get pissed I generally never cross post unless I am replying to s cross post...that's when Reply All comes in handy. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Rufus wrote: F Murtz wrote: It seem that cross posting is barred. It is extremely annoying that when replying to a post that is cross posted, first it does not go anywhere and when I discover this I have to manually post to each NG in turn which means removing each address in turn and posting separately. Is this sea monkey that does this or is it astraweb? Is there any way round this? Use Reply All instead of Reply. NO! Absolutely not! Just Reply in SeaMonkey (and TB) will reply to ALL listed newsgroups. When your click the Reply All in newsgroup mode replies to all the groups AND the to the email of the previous poster! That's how some novices keep emailing instead of just posting to the group. I've never seen it work that way. Reply All replies to all of the Addressees in the From list. If the message is originally cross-posted, Reply All will reply to the cross-posted groups only. ...at least that's what's happened on my Macs all these years, judging by what I see in my Sent folder. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
Rufus wrote: Use Reply All instead of Reply. but be carful where you cross post otherwise people will get pissed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: HenriK wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I can only think that you've entered the password incorrectly in SM. Try this: Tools | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords Scroll down to verizon.net and select it, you should see two entries on the right: mailbox://mail.verizon.net (mailbox://mail.verizon.net) smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net) Click the button at bottom right, Show Passwords and examine them with a fine-tooth comb. Remember, they're case-sensitive. If worse comes to worst, do the same thing on a working system and compare them side-by-side. If one or both passwords proves to be wrong, just delete that entry. The next time you try to send a message (SMTP) or get messages (POP), you'll be prompted for the password, and you can enter it. If you like, on a working system, open a Notepad window. Then for each of the entries in Password Manager, right-click and choose Copy password and paste it into the text file. Save onto a USB stick or something and walk it across to the trouble system, where you can copy/paste it into SeaMonkey's dialog when it prompts you for the password. Be sure to delete the file when done. Good idea. I deleted all Verizon listings in Password Manager logged out of SeaMonkey and rebooted the PC. When I next tried to log into my new Verizon e-mail account, it again failed with the usual authentication failure message. Didn't SM invite you to enter your password? How did that go? If so, and if you've reentered your password and still failed, then we've ruled out bad passwords, and we've ruled out bad server settings, so what's left? When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Bad username? (Could you have mistyped it in the SM settings?) Bad connection? (Probably not, if the server can hear you and reply. Can you browse normally on the trouble system?) What really puzzles me is that I can reach this e-mail account via Verizon webmail using what I wrote down as both the correct user name and password. Accordingly, I believe neither is the problem. After I deleted all 'Verizon ...' entries in Password Manager, when I again tried to access the new e-mail account via SM's e-mail function, I got the usual 'authentication failure' response. I am about to try to create a new profile separate from the profile that controls my existing seven (non-Verizon) e-mail accounts and see what happens. What really rattles me is that I added two of the non-Verizon e-mail accounts to my original profile within the past month and all went well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey v2.32 fixes.
Lots of fixes listed for SeaMonkey v2.32 as shown in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequalsf1=OPv6=fixedo3=equalsv3=fixedresolution=FIXEDo6=notequalso2=equalsf4=CPv5=fixedquery_format=advancedj1=ORf3=cf_status_seamonkey232f2=target_milestonef5=cf_status_seamonkey231f6=cf_status_seamonkey230v2=seamonkey2.32 Examples as fixes: Cannot restore bookmarks from backup JSON file., Unable to login at chase.com due to NS_ERROR_FAILURE (SeaMonkey only), browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML does not work, etc. -- Ants. There's a size for every picnic, a colour for every occasion, and a bite to let you know that they are there. Apart from the bite, that could describe a Basenji pretty well. --Len Reddie /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
hawker wrote: You may be on to something. I too use the nicer logitec mice, but I keep having software incompatibility issues with the Logitech drivers. In the end I use the mouse but do not install the logitec drives and my problems go away. I actually just disable the starting of the driver in AutoRuns as I sometimes need it to set features. You can RMB on the driver window and exit set point to regain MS control of the driver and see if that changes anything. I'll experiment with that! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Bill Spikowski wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: As side of the suggestions for Logitech Setpoint, what are your setting for scrollwheel in Seamonkey? Preferences Advance Mouse Wheel Nothing unusual - with no modifier key, it's set to scroll the document at 100% I just realized I've never explained why I don't just skip mouse wheel scrolling and use the + and - keys -- it's because my uncontrolled zooming problem in SM sometimes happens when I'm merely moving my mouse across Google Maps (not just when I'm scrolling with the mouse wheel). Just now, I moved my mouse across the window and Google Maps zoomed out to view the whole world. That is not supposed to happen. Sure sounds like you have a AutoScroll button defined in SetPoint This is no killer problem; I can use Google Maps just fine in Firefox or Chrome -- but I prefer the Seamonkey browser. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
On 01/12/2015 11:31 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/12/2015 7:52 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote [in part]: Still don't understand why folks refuse to update their browser. I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. Switch to Firefox our use Mapquest. -- Strip District Music Fest 2015-01-17 http://www.stripdistrictmusicfest.com/ Je Suis Charlie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Jonathan N. Little wrote: As side of the suggestions for Logitech Setpoint, what are your setting for scrollwheel in Seamonkey? Preferences Advance Mouse Wheel Nothing unusual - with no modifier key, it's set to scroll the document at 100% I just realized I've never explained why I don't just skip mouse wheel scrolling and use the + and - keys -- it's because my uncontrolled zooming problem in SM sometimes happens when I'm merely moving my mouse across Google Maps (not just when I'm scrolling with the mouse wheel). Just now, I moved my mouse across the window and Google Maps zoomed out to view the whole world. This is no killer problem; I can use Google Maps just fine in Firefox or Chrome -- but I prefer the Seamonkey browser. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Too many messages
WaltS48 wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Mark DeWolf wrote: I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing about. Please remove me from any list I may be on. Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make. List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey, mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org? subject=unsubscribe If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do the unsubscribe step for each one. Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups. One wonders what Mark was looking for by subscribing to the SeaMonkey support mailing list. I wouldn't exactly know what e-mail service means. Since he receives (and sends) to the group via the email list-serv, I figure that he assumes the group is only accessible via email messages. A lot of people don't realize there are three ways of posting: email, Google Groups, and newsreader news posts. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No RSS in 2.32bx - [was Re: SeaMonkey 2.32b3 released]
Edmund Wong wrote: NoOp wrote: On 01/08/2015 05:07 PM, NoOp wrote: On 01/08/2015 10:43 AM, George wrote: Edmund Wong wrote: Greetings, The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32b3. Please give it a spin. For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Links: [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/ Please don't release this version to production. It does not handle RSS feeds at all. Can't add a new RSS news group nor does SeaMonkey get any new RSS feed articles for the groups I already have. @Edward: Unfortunately I have to agree with George on this point. @George: I recommend that you file a bug report. Neither SeaMonkey nor Thunderbird seem to have a bug report regarding this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=SeaMonkeycontent=rsscomments=0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=Thunderbirdcontent=rsscomments=0 SeaMonkey has an old bug report that may be related: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641373 (subscription to various RSS feeds does not always transfer to Mail Newsgroups) Note: Thunderbird 34 beta allows you to add the feed with a url manually - only tested in Windows, haven't tested in linux yet. I note that the SeaMonkey RSS feed will load: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news-atom However, when attempting to subscribe to the Google news RSS: http://news.google.com/news?pz=1cf=allned=ushl=enoutput=rss I get the following in the error console: 2015-01-08 17:45:03FeedsWARNsubscribeToFeed: Aborting RSS subscription. Feed downloads already in progress Delete the SeaMonkey RSS and try the Google RSS - same result. Then retry the SeaMonkey RSS it does not load - error msg is the same as when I try the Google RSS (FeedsWARNsubscribeToFeed: Aborting RSS subscription. Feed downloads already in progress). I've done some preliminary tests and came up with a few observations: The tests were conducted with the following RSS feeds: [1] http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news-atom [2] http://news.google.com/news?pz=1cf=allned=hkhl=zh-TWoutput=rss [3] http://planet.mozilla.org/atom.xml [4] http://planet.mozilla.org/rss20.xml Test 1: - Subscribe [1] - Subscribe [2] - fails. (does nothing aside for dumping that error to the error console) (Delete Blogs .. account) Test 2: - Subscribe [2] - fails. (Delete Blogs .. account) Test 3: - Subscribe [1] - Subscribe [3] - Subscribe [4] -fails (delete...) Test 4: - Subscribe [4] - fails Test 5: - Subscribe [1] - fails. While my tests aren't scientific enough to jump to conclusions, I feel that the SeaMonkey feed code is not liking RSS v2.0 feeds. The parsing is stuck somewhere. So when it fails, something that's set is stuck at the setting which makes any subsequent tries fail. You'd need to delete the Blog newsFeeds account to get it going again. Unfortunately, I don't have much time to dwell on this too much, but will try to when I get enough cycles. Edmund I don't know if this will be of any help. I am using Aurora, which doesn't appear to have the RSS problem of retrieving new articles. My User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33a2 I haven't tried adding new feeds. George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Ray_Net wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote on 12/01/2015 16:52: running SM 2.26 and Still don't understand why folks refuse to update their browser. Because i have ben told that 2.32 could resolve my SM crash when moving around the street in StreetView of GoogleMaps per example. ??? StreetView works just fine on 2.31 as it did in each version between. The only issue with 2.31 is temporary URL shortcuts are missing the icon because the cached file is a zero-byte file in shortcutCache. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/12/2015 7:52 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote [in part]: Still don't understand why folks refuse to update their browser. I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. As I said it still works in 2.31. The USPS login as autocomplete=off on their form and I can login just fine because I have it saved. I would not do such with any BANKING site though. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cross posting
Ray_Net wrote: Richard Falken wrote on 12/01/2015 15:33: F Murtz wrote: It seem that cross posting is barred. It is extremely annoying that when replying to a post that is cross posted, first it does not go anywhere and when I discover this I have to manually post to each NG in turn which means removing each address in turn and posting separately. Is this sea monkey that does this or is it astraweb? Is there any way round this? I think it is not Seamonkey's fault. Probably something in the server configuration. Many servers hate crossposters and have limits on them. SM under news.mozilla.org refuse that you cross-post if you have not subscribed to all group present in the crosspost. (I think, if I remember) Nope. I have done it. I think where the failure can happen is if the *news server* does not have one of the crosspost NG. Happens to me with Eternal September which only handles a subset of NGs -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Bill Spikowski wrote: hawker wrote: You may be on to something. I too use the nicer logitec mice, but I keep having software incompatibility issues with the Logitech drivers. In the end I use the mouse but do not install the logitec drives and my problems go away. I actually just disable the starting of the driver in AutoRuns as I sometimes need it to set features. You can RMB on the driver window and exit set point to regain MS control of the driver and see if that changes anything. I'll experiment with that! I always assumed that if Setpoint wasn't running, I'd lose all its configuration settings. But I just ended the process and I really can't tell any difference, except that the odd scrolling problem in Google Maps has suddenly gone away! I'm sure that without Setpoint I'll lose the low battery warning for my wireless mouse -- but that's insignificant since I know how the mouse starts acting when its battery is low. Now the test is to see if I've lost anything important. If not, this problem will be completely solved! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps
Jonathan N. Little wrote: That is not supposed to happen. Sure sounds like you have a AutoScroll button defined in SetPoint AutoScroll is news to me! I see AutoScroll as a choice for certain buttons, but with my mouse at least, Setpoint doesn't give me any choices about how the scroll wheel behaves. But maybe its getting invoked some other way . . . . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
