How to Seamonkey after New SSD and Win 10 installation

2018-05-09 Thread dirk
I intend to install an SSD and keep my current HDD for storage and 
possibly (most likely) program/app launch location.


So, what I want to do is install a new SSD, install W10 on that drive, 
and keep my current HDD untouched. Well I will remove Windows 8.1 files 
of course. I'm not sure if drive letters will be changed when I do that.


I guess booting needs to be done from drive C:\ ?

In the case the drive letter for my current HDD would change, The 
question here is if I need to do something to Seamonkey to keep it 
running reliably, and finding the message base. The drive letter will be 
changed I guess, unless we can boot standard from ANY drive specified?



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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Wed, 9 May 2018 08:04:01 +0200, _Ray_Net_:

Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 22:21:

Bugzilla isn't just for bugs though, it's for change requests too. The 
fact that it is working correctly doesn't mean it is useful or should 
never be changed.


Why must TB or SM show a part of the HTML part when reading exclusively 
in plain-text.
If you position your option to plain-text-only don't expect to reach the 
HTML part ...

Permitting to access the html part is an aberration ...

If you want to see the attachment Iphone/Ipad MUST put the attachment 
OUTSIDE de html part.


I can think of few reasons why the current behavior should be improved:

1) The MIME handling is not set in stone – it's mostly about the 
capabilities of the client, and a client should make best effort to not 
hide content from the user.  If I remember correctly Claws Mail [1] 
doesn't handle HTML but presents an UI for viewing any MIME part of the 
message as text, or just access/save it as attachment;


2) There's already a precedent in Mozilla Mail – an HTML message with 
embedded pictures:


   multipart/alternative
├─ text/plain
└─ multipart/related
├─ text/html
└─ image/jpeg

When viewed as plain text, the pictures are seen as attachments.  In 
fact any other part, whether actually linked in the HTML or not, of the 
"multiplart/related" branch will be shown as attachment.  That's 
perfectly valid given (1).  It makes sense this handling could be 
extended, or more generic solution like "Show All Body Parts" (already 
suggested in another reply to this thread) provided.


[1] http://www.claws-mail.org/

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Frank-Rainer Grahl:

>We really need to fix the current bustages first...

Well, yesterday a build of SM-Trunk on Linux x86_64 succeeded. After a
relative long time of bustages. But building is broken again. :)

Hartmut
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Re: How to Seamonkey after New SSD and Win 10 installation

2018-05-09 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
This will not work. You would need to reinstall all programs and copy your old 
profile data. Best would be to clone the system and c: partitions to the new 
SDD. Then do the Win 10 install and opt for keeping all data. Chances are that 
Win 10 will trash half of it anyway :) You can leave you old hd untouched in 
case something goes wrong.


I never thought I would find a good word for 8.1 but 10 is a pile of junk and 
8.1 with classic shell far superior.


If you plan to install the latest Win 10 1803 wait for SeaMonkey 2.49.4. 
2.49.3 is based on 52.7.3 and the 1803 fix is only in the emergency release 
52.7.4 and up.


FRG

dirk wrote:
I intend to install an SSD and keep my current HDD for storage and possibly 
(most likely) program/app launch location.


So, what I want to do is install a new SSD, install W10 on that drive, and 
keep my current HDD untouched. Well I will remove Windows 8.1 files of course. 
I'm not sure if drive letters will be changed when I do that.


I guess booting needs to be done from drive C:\ ?

In the case the drive letter for my current HDD would change, The question 
here is if I need to do something to Seamonkey to keep it running reliably, 
and finding the message base. The drive letter will be changed I guess, unless 
we can boot standard from ANY drive specified?




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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

It builds but that is about all :)

Didin't try today. Mozilla just removed another few bits from Gecko and jorgk 
just pushed a bustage fixe for mailnews.


FRG

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl:


We really need to fix the current bustages first...


Well, yesterday a build of SM-Trunk on Linux x86_64 succeeded. After a
relative long time of bustages. But building is broken again. :)

Hartmut


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Re: How to Seamonkey after New SSD and Win 10 installation

2018-05-09 Thread cmcadams

dirk wrote:
I intend to install an SSD and keep my current HDD for storage and possibly (most 
likely) program/app launch location.


So, what I want to do is install a new SSD, install W10 on that drive, and keep my 
current HDD untouched. Well I will remove Windows 8.1 files of course. I'm not sure 
if drive letters will be changed when I do that.


I guess booting needs to be done from drive C:\ ?

In the case the drive letter for my current HDD would change, The question here is if 
I need to do something to Seamonkey to keep it running reliably, and finding the 
message base. The drive letter will be changed I guess, unless we can boot standard 
from ANY drive specified?


You'll need to reinstall Seamonkey under the new OS. If you want to keep your 
configuration as is:


* First, make a copy of the new installation's [whatever_name_it_is].default profile 
directory. You'll end up with a "[whatever_name_it_is].default - Copy" directory. 
This is insurance.


* Delete the entire contents of the new installation's profile directory.

* Go to the profile directory of the earlier, other-OS Seamonkey and copy the entire 
contents of that directory.


* Paste those contents into the new installation's now-empty profile directory.

You should now be back in business.
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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Ray_Net

Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 22:21:

Ray_Net wrote:

Richmond wrote on 08-05-18 10:02:

Ray_Net wrote:

Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54:

The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if
you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no
interpretation of embedded headers at all, as that would be more
secure.
But it doesn't do that either, unless you use ctrl-U.

Iphone could be the culprit.

It might be. I did the test again using gmail webmail instead of the
iphone, and the attachment shows correctly.

As this applies to Thunderbird too I think I will raise a bugzilla, as
it might be a simple matter to adapt to the iphone/ipad.


I the Iphone/Ipad put the attachment into the html part ...
I suggest that SM nor TB must not permit to see this attachment when
reading in plain-text.
I that case, I suggest to close the bug immediately with the reason
"Works Correctly".

Bugzilla isn't just for bugs though, it's for change requests too. The
fact that it is working correctly doesn't mean it is useful or should
never be changed.

Why must TB or SM show a part of the HTML part when reading exclusively 
in plain-text.
If you position your option to plain-text-only don't expect to reach the 
HTML part ...

Permitting to access the html part is an aberration ...

If you want to see the attachment Iphone/Ipad MUST put the attachment 
OUTSIDE de html part.

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Frank-Rainer Grahl:

>It builds but that is about all :)
>
>Didin't try today. Mozilla just removed another few bits from Gecko and jorgk 
>just pushed a bustage fixe for mailnews.

The new build succeeded. The first SM 2.59. :)

Hartmut
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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

NoOp wrote:

On 5/8/2018 12:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote on 08-05-18 19:03:

Have you tried the already included:
View|Message Body As|All Body Parts
that is included in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird?



I did not have that option for "Message Body As" I have only those 3
choices:
- "Original HTML"
- "Simple HTML"
- "Plain Text"



Odd... I must have installed it via an extension/add-on or some other
means some time ago. It apparently is in my profile somewhere as before
posting I tested in safe mode (add-ons disabled). Sorry for the noise,
I'll see if I can figure out how I got it & then post back.


Somewhere else in this thread (or maybe on a web page I got to via a 
message in this thread) I see there is a preference 
"mailnews.display.show_all_body_parts_menu" which enables that menu 
item. It's "false" (don't show the option) by default. I guess you 
previously enabled that preference, or installed an extension which does so.


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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread NoOp
On 5/9/2018 2:40 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 5/8/2018 12:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> NoOp wrote on 08-05-18 19:03:
 Have you tried the already included:
 View|Message Body As|All Body Parts
 that is included in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird?


>>> I did not have that option for "Message Body As" I have only those 3
>>> choices:
>>> - "Original HTML"
>>> - "Simple HTML"
>>> - "Plain Text"
>>>
>> 
>> Odd... I must have installed it via an extension/add-on or some other
>> means some time ago. It apparently is in my profile somewhere as before
>> posting I tested in safe mode (add-ons disabled). Sorry for the noise,
>> I'll see if I can figure out how I got it & then post back.
> 
> Somewhere else in this thread (or maybe on a web page I got to via a 
> message in this thread) I see there is a preference 
> "mailnews.display.show_all_body_parts_menu" which enables that menu 
> item. It's "false" (don't show the option) by default. I guess you 
> previously enabled that preference, or installed an extension which does so.
> 

Bingo! Thanks Mark, that is it - had it set to true on both SeaMonkey
and Thunderbird.


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Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

2018-05-09 Thread DoctorBill

I remember back with previous versions of SeaMonkey, that there was a "STOP"
button that stopped a page that was loading - if you clicked it.

MANY web sites (like FoxNews) come up with the STOP Button greyed out (not
functional).

Why is that ?

Some web sites take FOREVER to load and I would like to STOP the 
loading.can't !


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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

2018-05-09 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:
I remember back with previous versions of SeaMonkey, that there was a 
"STOP"

button that stopped a page that was loading - if you clicked it.

MANY web sites (like FoxNews) come up with the STOP Button greyed out (not
functional).

Why is that ?

Some web sites take FOREVER to load and I would like to STOP the 
loading.can't !


DoctorBill


Using 2.49.1 right now.
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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

2018-05-09 Thread NoOp
On 5/8/2018 12:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> NoOp wrote on 08-05-18 19:03:
>> On 5/8/2018 1:31 AM, Richmond wrote:
>>> Richmond wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
> Richmond wrote on 07-05-18 11:54:
>> The same thing occurs in Thunderbird. I suppose you could argue that if
>> you want to display the body as plain text, then it should have no
>> interpretation of embedded headers at all, as that would be more secure.
>> But it doesn't do that either, unless you use ctrl-U.
> Iphone could be the culprit.
 It might be. I did the test again using gmail webmail instead of the
 iphone, and the attachment shows correctly.

 As this applies to Thunderbird too I think I will raise a bugzilla, as
 it might be a simple matter to adapt to the iphone/ipad.

>>> Someone has already raised a similar issue here:
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1362539
>>>
>>> Probably it won't be fixed but there is an extension to fix it:
>>>
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/show-all-body-parts/
>>>
>>> called "show all body parts" - an unfortunate name. :)
>>>
>> Have you tried the already included:
>> View|Message Body As|All Body Parts
>> that is included in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird?
>>
>>
> I did not have that option for "Message Body As" I have only those 3 
> choices:
> - "Original HTML"
> - "Simple HTML"
> - "Plain Text"
> 

Odd... I must have installed it via an extension/add-on or some other
means some time ago. It apparently is in my profile somewhere as before
posting I tested in safe mode (add-ons disabled). Sorry for the noise,
I'll see if I can figure out how I got it & then post back.

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