Re: Viewing messages

2009-01-20 Thread Samuel S

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 01/19/09 15:14, NO wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 01/19/09 09:30, NO wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Samuel S wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

NO wrote:
Hello all.. I have encountered this before and fixed it, yet cannot 
remember how to now.


There are a few messages which I receive that are totally in code, 
then others are blank and unreadable.


These messages are from people or organizations which I have 
received before and can read on other computers.


I Am using SM 1.1.14 and Vista business.

Thank you again.

try View, Message Body As, Original HTML.  Did that work?


P3H,

Thank you for the response. I have just tried that, although it was 
already checked.


It still remains the same, not being able to read the message or a 
blank message.


Thank you, I do appreciate all you do around the groups here to help.

SameulS

then try File, Compact Folders.  Did that help?

If not, then close SM, and delete all the *.msf files. Did that help?


P3H,

Thank you again for the suggestions. I have completed compacting the 
folders and deleted the *.msf files and still cannot read the messages. 
I also, have looked at the edit  preferences to determine if there is 
something there which might affect the ability to read these messages 
and could not find one.


Any ideas there?

Thank you again,

Samuel

I wonder if you are now pointing to a different profile. If you have
SeaMonkey open, go to Tools - Switch Profile and see if more than
one is listed. If there are, try switching to the other profile(s) and
see if your messages are there.

Best Regards,

Mark,

Thank you for the input. There is only one profile there. Maybe I need 
to consider adding a profile?


Thank you - Samuel


Well, the profile is where all the application settings, e-mail, etc.
are stored, and there is always one there.

If you add a new profile, you can see if a bad setting in your existing
profile is causing problems, but I wouldn't expect your e-mail to show up
there, as the e-mail will (should?) be in the original profile.

I think the next step is to look in your profile directory and see if the
e-mail files are there.

By the way, do you use POP e-mail? Do you leave your messages on the server?
The way most people use e-mail, they use POP and download the messages to
their local machine. In this case, each mail folder will be a separate
file under your profile directory.

Are the mail folder files there?



Mark,

I do use POP e-mail for most of the accounts, in fact it is the only 
format with the account which I Am having challenges, permits.


Also, do you think if a total re installation of SM 1.1.14 would be the 
ticket to correct this?


Thank you all again.

SamuelS
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Re: SM 2 instead of 1.x

2009-01-20 Thread Benoit Renard

INFO WG wrote:

Sadly, another reason all efforts should have been long ago placed on
SM 2.


1) You're assuming that effort on SeaMonkey 1.1.x releases takes away 
from efforts on SeaMonkey 2.0.


2) You really want SeaMonkey 1.1.x to not get security releases, leaving 
us without a stable, up-to-date SeaMonkey? This is madness.



Frankly, experience like that has shown the futility of beating an older
software horse when it was almost folly to get involved with it


What a load of crock. When SeaMonkey 1.1.x came out, there was nothing 
better.



especially as more modern code and people (staff) were available.


Excuse me?! The SeaMonkey project consists entirely of volunteers, and 
those haven't changed. Many people who work on Firefox are being /paid/ 
to do so. No such thing with SeaMonkey.



I think my efforts here in SM land were more to start pointing out the
futility of engaging SM 1.x when SM 2 code was already past being on the
drawing board, and that I felt and still do that SM 2 only would have
been the far more prudent course.


Efforts? Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one. Your ignorant 
complaints bring nothing to the project.


Again, patches welcome.
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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread Mark Hansen
On 01/20/09 12:26, HeavyDuty wrote:
 Seamonkey 1.1.14
 WinXP Pro SP3
 hooked up to a comcast cable bb pipe.
 
 While I have posted a similar question before, there is new 
 information from tech support at my e-mail host mcleod 
 relating to turning off authentication.
 
 I am still struggling with using seamonkey e-mail client on 
 Comcast when sending from my McLeodusa.net accounts. I am 
 not a Comcast subscriber but am hooked up while visiting a 
 friend.
 
 No matter how I send McLeod smtp e-mail out of seamonkey it 
 fails. There is the 10060 error, an error that says smtp 
 server mcleodusa is not accepting e-mail, the greeting 
 failed, or an endless repetitive loop of asking for my 
 password until I give up.
 
 McLeod tech says that McLeod does not require 
 authentication. Apparently comcast does. Does this make sense?
 
 Here's an explanation and fix for the 10060 I found.
 
 Socket Error # 10060
 Message from:a...@a.com to:b...@b.com Connect error in directly sending! 
 Info : Socket Error # 10060
 
 Analyse: You are on a an ISP (such as Earthlink or Mindspring) that blocks 
 their users using any SMTP server other than their own.
 
 Solutions: To set up Earthlink, Mindspring, or your ISP's SMTP servers for 
 your outgoing email you must click on your account settings in the email 
 client you are using (Outlook Express, Eudora, Netscape etc.)
 
 In the SMTP (outgoing mail server) field you will enter smtp.earthlink.net 
 (or whatever your dial up or direct access ISP's SMTP server is) as your 
 SMTP server. You must then enter your Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and 
 password for that mail server.
 
 In Outlook Express it is at the bottom of that same tab. You must uncheck 
 'My server requires authentication' and click on 'settings' to enter your 
 Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password.
 
 I do use the comcast smtp.comcast.net server setting
 I use the required port 587.
 I insert my usneracc...@mcleoduse.net for my smtp e-mail sender

I think you misunderstood here. When connecting to comcast's SMTP server, you'll
never provide your Mcleod user name and/or password.

In order to use Mcleod SMTP server (and therefor your Mcleod user name
and password) you will have to set SeaMonkey's SMTP server to Mcleod's
SMTP server IP address, port, etc.

Now, what the above explanation is telling you (I think) is that comcast
may not allow you to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server while connected to the
Internet via comcast's network. I don't know if comcast has such a restriction,
so you may want to verify that before going too much further.

If Mcleod wants you to talk to their SMTP server using port 25, and
comcast blocks outgoing port 25, I don't know what you can do about
it. Talk to Mcleod and let them know that port 25 is blocked by your
(temporary) ISP, and is there any other way you can connect to their
SMTP server. They may be able to give you alternate connection
instructions.

 
 What is the Seamonkey equivalent (to outlook express) of 
 unchecking requires authentication and still be able to 
 enter my McLeod user account name?
 
 In Seamonkey in the outgoing smtp setup, if User and 
 Authentication is checked, I can enter the username (and I 
 assume that means authentication is on). When it is 
 unchecked, no user name can be entered, and the existing one 
 disappears.
 
 POP email retrieval works fine.
 
 When I send out of my earthlink accounts using the comcast 
 cable, I can use the earthlink smtpauth.earthlink.net server 
 with user and Authentication checked and my user name in 
 the window.
 
 Thanks for any insights.
 
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Re: its baaaack!

2009-01-20 Thread Gus Richter

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
for those who are wondering, but the news server aioe is back up and 
running again.


NOTE: if you get an error message, then delete the newsgroups you have, 
refresh the list, and re-subscribe to them.


ANOTHER NOTE: some groups may have been removed so you need to contact 
aioe and ask for their return.



I dropped aioe and have been running motzarella and albasani for a while 
now. I'm starting to think that I'll end up with albasani only only due 
to every-now-and-then delay and differences. Will run both for another 
month or so and decide permanently then.


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Re: its baaaack!

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Gus Richter wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
for those who are wondering, but the news server aioe is back up and 
running again.


NOTE: if you get an error message, then delete the newsgroups you 
have, refresh the list, and re-subscribe to them.


ANOTHER NOTE: some groups may have been removed so you need to contact 
aioe and ask for their return.



I dropped aioe and have been running motzarella and albasani for a while 
now. I'm starting to think that I'll end up with albasani only only due 
to every-now-and-then delay and differences. Will run both for another 
month or so and decide permanently then.


I've got all 3 just in case one of them stops working, 
like aoie did


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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

HeavyDuty wrote:

Chatting  with Comcast tech support on line is an act of frustration. 
It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the techs only 
script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have NO IDEA 
about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast.


here, do this.  Start up OE, get the instructions from 
them for the OE settings.  Come back here, and tell us 
what they said.  Then someone can help you from there.


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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread Mark Hansen
On 01/20/09 15:09, HeavyDuty wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 01/20/09 12:26, HeavyDuty wrote:
 Seamonkey 1.1.14
 WinXP Pro SP3
 hooked up to a comcast cable bb pipe.

 While I have posted a similar question before, there is new 
 information from tech support at my e-mail host mcleod 
 relating to turning off authentication.

 I am still struggling with using seamonkey e-mail client on 
 Comcast when sending from my McLeodusa.net accounts. I am 
 not a Comcast subscriber but am hooked up while visiting a 
 friend.

 No matter how I send McLeod smtp e-mail out of seamonkey it 
 fails. There is the 10060 error, an error that says smtp 
 server mcleodusa is not accepting e-mail, the greeting 
 failed, or an endless repetitive loop of asking for my 
 password until I give up.

 McLeod tech says that McLeod does not require 
 authentication. Apparently comcast does. Does this make sense?

 Here's an explanation and fix for the 10060 I found.

 Socket Error # 10060
 Message from:a...@a.com to:b...@b.com Connect error in directly 
 sending! Info : Socket Error # 10060

 Analyse: You are on a an ISP (such as Earthlink or Mindspring) that blocks 
 their users using any SMTP server other than their own.

 Solutions: To set up Earthlink, Mindspring, or your ISP's SMTP servers for 
 your outgoing email you must click on your account settings in the email 
 client you are using (Outlook Express, Eudora, Netscape etc.)

 In the SMTP (outgoing mail server) field you will enter smtp.earthlink.net 
 (or whatever your dial up or direct access ISP's SMTP server is) as your 
 SMTP server. You must then enter your Earthlink (or your ISP's) username 
 and password for that mail server.

 In Outlook Express it is at the bottom of that same tab. You must uncheck 
 'My server requires authentication' and click on 'settings' to enter your 
 Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password.
 I do use the comcast smtp.comcast.net server setting
 I use the required port 587.
 I insert my usneracc...@mcleoduse.net for my smtp e-mail sender
 
 
 Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful response.
 
 
 I think you misunderstood here. When connecting to comcast's SMTP server, 
 you'll
 never provide your Mcleod user name and/or password.
 
 
 If that is the case, how is that I can send earthlink e-mail 
 accounts using the smtpauth.earthlink.net server address 
 while using the Comcast cable?

Because (it seems) earthlink is allowing it. Let's assume you're connected
via comcast. If you want to point your SMTP client (SeaMonkey) to Earthlink's
SMTP server, you need to get past two things:

1. Comcast has to allow your outgoing connection.
2. Earthlink has to allow your incoming connection (from comcast's network).

Some ISPs (I don't know if comcast does this) can block the standard SMTP
port (25). However, if you can talk to your non-Comcast SMTP server on
a different port, you can probably get around this.

Number 2 can also be done. You have to work with the SMTP provider and
see what they will allow (different ports, authentication, etc.).

 
 
 
 In order to use Mcleod SMTP server (and therefor your Mcleod user name
 and password) you will have to set SeaMonkey's SMTP server to Mcleod's
 SMTP server IP address, port, etc.
 
 Yes. And I have so done (many time with many variations. 
 None of which work (yet). That's the problem.
 
 Now, what the above explanation is telling you (I think) is that comcast
 may not allow you to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server while connected to the
 Internet via comcast's network. I don't know if comcast has such a 
 restriction,
 so you may want to verify that before going too much further.
 
 Chatting  with Comcast tech support on line is an act of 
 frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly 
 noted, the techs only script is related to Outlook Express 
 and IE. The techs have NO IDEA about settings for any other 
 e-mail provider besides Comcast. Bottom line is that I 
 cannot get a straight story out of them regarding McLeod (or 
 any other e-mail provider)..

If that's the case, can you use Outlook Express in the short term,
just to get it working. Once you get it working, it should be simple
to apply any settings to your SeaMonkey client and make it work as
well. I only suggest this because it may be easier to get help from
them if you're using their accepted client.

 
 
 If Mcleod wants you to talk to their SMTP server using port 25, and
 comcast blocks outgoing port 25, I don't know what you can do about
 it. Talk to Mcleod and let them know that port 25 is blocked by your
 (temporary) ISP, and is there any other way you can connect to their
 SMTP server. They may be able to give you alternate connection
 instructions.
 
 
 I will check with McLeod about another port and other settings.
 Based on previous contacts with McLeod, the Comcast support 
 web page and the article I quote above, I need to turn off 
 authentication, but still send my user name. The above 
 article describes how 

Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread Daniel

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.14
WinXP Pro SP3
hooked up to a comcast cable bb pipe.

While I have posted a similar question before, there is new information 
from tech support at my e-mail host mcleod relating to turning off 
authentication.


I am still struggling with using seamonkey e-mail client on Comcast when 
sending from my McLeodusa.net accounts. I am not a Comcast subscriber 
but am hooked up while visiting a friend.


No matter how I send McLeod smtp e-mail out of seamonkey it fails. There 
is the 10060 error, an error that says smtp server mcleodusa is not 
accepting e-mail, the greeting failed, or an endless repetitive loop 
of asking for my password until I give up.


McLeod tech says that McLeod does not require authentication. Apparently 
comcast does. Does this make sense?


Here's an explanation and fix for the 10060 I found.


Socket Error # 10060
Message from:a...@a.com to:b...@b.com Connect error in directly sending! 
Info : Socket Error # 10060


Analyse: You are on a an ISP (such as Earthlink or Mindspring) that 
blocks their users using any SMTP server other than their own.


Solutions: To set up Earthlink, Mindspring, or your ISP's SMTP servers 
for your outgoing email you must click on your account settings in the 
email client you are using (Outlook Express, Eudora, Netscape etc.)


In the SMTP (outgoing mail server) field you will enter 
smtp.earthlink.net (or whatever your dial up or direct access ISP's 
SMTP server is) as your SMTP server. You must then enter your 
Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password for that mail server.


In Outlook Express it is at the bottom of that same tab. You must 
uncheck 'My server requires authentication' and click on 'settings' to 
enter your Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password.


I do use the comcast smtp.comcast.net server setting
I use the required port 587.
I insert my usneracc...@mcleoduse.net for my smtp e-mail sender

What is the Seamonkey equivalent (to outlook express) of unchecking 
requires authentication and still be able to enter my McLeod user 
account name?


In Seamonkey in the outgoing smtp setup, if User and Authentication is 
checked, I can enter the username (and I assume that means 
authentication is on). When it is unchecked, no user name can be 
entered, and the existing one disappears.


POP email retrieval works fine.

When I send out of my earthlink accounts using the comcast cable, I can 
use the earthlink smtpauth.earthlink.net server with user and 
Authentication checked and my user name in the window.


Thanks for any insights.



Over the holiday period, I was dog sitting for my sister. I tried to set 
 up my email account so that I could get my mail on her computer using 
my SeaMonkey.


Setting up the account to get my mail from my normal ISP was no problem, 
just set it up.


When I tried to set up the out-going SMTP server, I could not get 
anywhere, as, it seems, her ISP would not allow sending from or via 
another ISP, so I just set the account up to use her ISP for outgoing, 
but showing my real email address with-in the e-mail.


Had no problems after that.

HTH

Daniel
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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread HeavyDuty

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Chatting  with Comcast tech support on line is an act of 
frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the 
techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have 
NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast.


here, do this.  Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE 
settings.  Come back here, and tell us what they said.  Then someone can 
help you from there.



Yes good idea. Will do.
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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread Mark Hansen
Just to get past all the noise, here is what I think you're trying to do.
Please correct me if I'm wrong:

You have your PC connected to the Internet via Comcast.

You want to sent e-mail using your Earthlink's SMTP provider.

If this is true, Comcast support won't be able to help you.
You need to talk to Earthlink support and tell them that you
are away from your normal connection source, and are forced
(temporarily) to use Comcast and that you want to be able
to send e-mail via Earthlink's SMTP server using your Earthlink
account.

If they support this, they should be able to give you connection
information which you can use in SeaMonkey (or any other client
for that matter). Don't get hung up on which client - just have
them tell you want needs to be set and someone here can help you
translate that into SeaMonkey controls (if necessary).

Note that Earthlink is not going to just let any Comcast customer
(that is what you are, if only temporarily) connect to their SMTP
server and send e-mail. This is what spammers do. They are going
to require that you have your client (SeaMonkey) set up to properly
authenticate with their system first.

I hope this clears things up a bit.

Best Regards,

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What causes duplicate messages?

2009-01-20 Thread chicagofan
What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date 
of 12/31/1969?

bj
[SM l.l.ll]
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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread HeavyDuty

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.14
WinXP Pro SP3
hooked up to a comcast cable bb pipe.

While I have posted a similar question before, there is new 
information from tech support at my e-mail host mcleod relating to 
turning off authentication.


I am still struggling with using seamonkey e-mail client on Comcast 
when sending from my McLeodusa.net accounts. I am not a Comcast 
subscriber but am hooked up while visiting a friend.


No matter how I send McLeod smtp e-mail out of seamonkey it fails. 
There is the 10060 error, an error that says smtp server mcleodusa is 
not accepting e-mail, the greeting failed, or an endless repetitive 
loop of asking for my password until I give up.


McLeod tech says that McLeod does not require authentication. 
Apparently comcast does. Does this make sense?


Here's an explanation and fix for the 10060 I found.


Socket Error # 10060
Message from:a...@a.com to:b...@b.com Connect error in directly 
sending! Info : Socket Error # 10060


Analyse: You are on a an ISP (such as Earthlink or Mindspring) that 
blocks their users using any SMTP server other than their own.


Solutions: To set up Earthlink, Mindspring, or your ISP's SMTP 
servers for your outgoing email you must click on your account 
settings in the email client you are using (Outlook Express, Eudora, 
Netscape etc.)


In the SMTP (outgoing mail server) field you will enter 
smtp.earthlink.net (or whatever your dial up or direct access ISP's 
SMTP server is) as your SMTP server. You must then enter your 
Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password for that mail server.


In Outlook Express it is at the bottom of that same tab. You must 
uncheck 'My server requires authentication' and click on 'settings' 
to enter your Earthlink (or your ISP's) username and password.


I do use the comcast smtp.comcast.net server setting
I use the required port 587.
I insert my usneracc...@mcleoduse.net for my smtp e-mail sender

What is the Seamonkey equivalent (to outlook express) of unchecking 
requires authentication and still be able to enter my McLeod user 
account name?


In Seamonkey in the outgoing smtp setup, if User and Authentication is 
checked, I can enter the username (and I assume that means 
authentication is on). When it is unchecked, no user name can be 
entered, and the existing one disappears.


POP email retrieval works fine.

When I send out of my earthlink accounts using the comcast cable, I 
can use the earthlink smtpauth.earthlink.net server with user and 
Authentication checked and my user name in the window.


Thanks for any insights.



Over the holiday period, I was dog sitting for my sister. I tried to set 
 up my email account so that I could get my mail on her computer using 
my SeaMonkey.


Setting up the account to get my mail from my normal ISP was no problem, 
just set it up.


When I tried to set up the out-going SMTP server, I could not get 
anywhere, as, it seems, her ISP would not allow sending from or via 
another ISP, so I just set the account up to use her ISP for outgoing, 
but showing my real email address with-in the e-mail.


Had no problems after that.

HTH

Daniel


Thanks,

Yeah, have now done the same workaround using the 
smtp.comcast.net server and my friend's email account in the 
user/authentication box. It feels a bit like spamming. I 
would like a clean way of doing it.

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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread HeavyDuty

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:



I think you misunderstood here. When connecting to comcast's SMTP 
server, you'll

never provide your Mcleod user name and/or password.



If that is the case, how is that I can send earthlink e-mail accounts 
using the smtpauth.earthlink.net server address while using the 
Comcast cable?






Some providers allow 'relaying', others do not.

For example: If I use my cogeco connection, I can mail 'out' using 
either my cogeco id or my sympatico id (user/pass).  But if I use the 
sympatico connection, I cannot use my cogeco id.


Sympatico doesn't allow 'relaying' - Cogeco does.


Well, I don't know whether I am relaying when I use my 
earthlink server sending earthlink email using the comcast 
pipe. That is comcast allows.


My mcleodusa account workarounds are to use the earthlink 
server with my account name, or the comcast server with my 
friend's comcast account name. I do not get challenged for a 
password, so I am thinking it's the mcleodusa password 
that's needed and automatically provided to mcleodusa by 
seamonkey password manager while the comcast server is passive.

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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread HeavyDuty

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Chatting  with Comcast tech support on line is an act of 
frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the 
techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have 
NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast.


here, do this.  Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE 
settings.  Come back here, and tell us what they said.  Then someone can 
help you from there.



OK Peter, the results are in.

In Outlook Express, advanced settings:
Outgoing Port 25
Outgoing mail server email.mcleodusa.net
X my server requires authentication
X use same settings as my incoming mail server

Incoming Mail Server POP3
(nameofaccount)@mcleodusa.net
password x
X Log on using secure pass authentication.

These settings DO NOT work and produce a 421 error.

I tried this on ports 25 and 587.


An unknown error has occurred. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 
'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421 Cannot connect to 
SMTP server 63.254.138.23 (63.254.138.23:25), connect error 10060', Port: 25, 
Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 421, Error Number: 0x800CCC67

The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', 
Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, 
Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E


I tried this while on the phone with McLeodusa tech support.
This is being escalated.
I'll just have wait now to find out if McLeodusa and Comcast 
are at odds, or what.


Then, as you have suggested, when OE works, you are someone 
can help translate the OE settings to Seamonkey.


Stand bye.
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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread Mark Hansen
On 01/20/09 17:34, HeavyDuty wrote:
 Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 HeavyDuty wrote:
 
 Chatting  with Comcast tech support on line is an act of 
 frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the 
 techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have 
 NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast.
 
 here, do this.  Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE 
 settings.  Come back here, and tell us what they said.  Then someone can 
 help you from there.
 
 OK Peter, the results are in.
 
 In Outlook Express, advanced settings:
 Outgoing Port 25
 Outgoing mail server email.mcleodusa.net
 X my server requires authentication
 X use same settings as my incoming mail server
 
 Incoming Mail Server POP3
 (nameofaccount)@mcleodusa.net
 password x
 X Log on using secure pass authentication.
 
 These settings DO NOT work and produce a 421 error.
 
 I tried this on ports 25 and 587.

Well, Mcleod told you to use port 25, so there no use in try port 587.
It's not a magic number - for it to be useful, someone has to be
listening on it.

 
 An unknown error has occurred. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 
 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421 Cannot connect 
 to SMTP server 63.254.138.23 (63.254.138.23:25), connect error 10060', Port: 
 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 421, Error Number: 0x800CCC67

421 is an SMTP server error. Specifically, it is a temporary failure (generally,
it means the server is too busy, but it could mean other temporary failures as
well). The corrective action is usually to just try again. and it may work.

What this *does* tell us is that you're talking to the SMTP server on port 25,
so at least you've gotten that far.

 
 The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', 
 Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, 
 Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E

Yes, this error says no one is listening on port 587, but we expected that
based on what Mcleod told you :-)

 
 I tried this while on the phone with McLeodusa tech support.
 This is being escalated.
 I'll just have wait now to find out if McLeodusa and Comcast 
 are at odds, or what.

At this point, it doesn't see that Comcast is in the picture. The only thing
they can do (as far as I know) is block the port, which they don't appear
to be doing (or you wouldn't have gotten the 'temporary failure' error above).

 
 Then, as you have suggested, when OE works, you are someone 
 can help translate the OE settings to Seamonkey.

I think anyone will be able to help you. Before you ask, though, just take the
settings they've provided and have a look at the SeaMonkey server settings
dialog. I think you'll find everything right there.

 
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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Chatting  with Comcast tech support on line is an act of 
frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, 
the techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs 
have NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides 
Comcast.


here, do this.  Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE 
settings.  Come back here, and tell us what they said.  Then someone 
can help you from there.



OK Peter, the results are in.

In Outlook Express, advanced settings:
Outgoing Port 25
Outgoing mail server email.mcleodusa.net
X my server requires authentication
X use same settings as my incoming mail server

Incoming Mail Server POP3
(nameofaccount)@mcleodusa.net
password x
X Log on using secure pass authentication.

These settings DO NOT work and produce a 421 error.

I tried this on ports 25 and 587.

An unknown error has occurred. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 
'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421 Cannot 
connect to SMTP server 63.254.138.23 (63.254.138.23:25), connect error 
10060', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 421, Error Number: 
0x800CCC67


The connection to the server has failed. Account: 
'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, 
Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E


I tried this while on the phone with McLeodusa tech support.
This is being escalated.
I'll just have wait now to find out if McLeodusa and Comcast are at 
odds, or what.


Then, as you have suggested, when OE works, you are someone can help 
translate the OE settings to Seamonkey.


Stand bye.


I'm going out on a limb here, and tell you a story.  I 
recently found out that some people, in certain 
countries, can now download hotmail into SeaMonkey 
Mail, without using a program such as FreePops or the 
webmail extension.  Hotmail has now become pop3 
compatible.  This is great news.  Now, when I did what 
the instructions said, I had problems.  It said to Use 
Secure Authentication and SSL setting.  When I did 
this, nothing would work.  After fiddling around, I 
found a combo.  For Pop access, don't select the 
Authentication part, and select SSL.  For SMTP, select 
the password and user name, but use TLS.


Well, thats my story. Take it for what its worth.

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