More trouble with mysoju.com
Can anyone figure this out? This website hosts videos by embedding them, and the visitor can normally play them without leaving the site by clicking the play button. Sometimes this doesn't work, though. Here's an example: http://www.mysoju.com/fullscreen/a-good-day-for-the-wind-to-blow/episode-40/part-1/ When I load this page in SM 1.1.16, I get the still image and the play button, but when I click play, nothing happens. If I click Watch this video on WAT, a new window opens at http://www.wat.tv/video/agooddayforthewindtoblow40-2w6nv_2w6mx_.html and the video autostarts and otherwise plays normally. When I load the mysoju page in Internet Exploiter 8, I don't get the still image, and I don't get the play button. Instead, I get an error message: Le player WAT a besoin de la version 9.0.115 ou superiéure, du plugin Flash. Vous avez la version 6.88.0. Cliquez pour mettre à jour votre plugin gratuitement. [The WAT player requires Flash plugin version 9.0.115 or higher. You have version 6.88.0. Click here to update your plugin at no charge.] Now, this is a mistake, because on checking the Windows Add/Remove Programs panel, I see that I have Adobe Flash Player 10 plugin and Adobe Shockwave Player 11.5. Presumably the problem is it doesn't see a relevant ActiveX control. Where it got the number 6.88.0 I have no idea. FWIW, SeaMonkey reports Shockwave Flash 10.1 r53, confirming what Windows says. Is there something wrong with the code mysoju is using to embed the video? As I said, I can play them fine at the WAT site, so I don't have a bad plugin. Thanks. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
On 08/13/2010 09:49 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote: I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies. WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Use the newsgroups instead: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey -- Harold Robbins Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @ support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org ...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate SM questions? keith whaley It was a legitimate response. Harold is using gmail via the mailing list. Now unless you'd like to talk him through how to get his gmail to show his replies (I don't), the best method (IMO) is for him to use the newsgroup(s) instead of the mailing list. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:08:20 -0700 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid.net On 08/13/2010 09:49 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote: I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies. WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Use the newsgroups instead: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @ support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org ...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate SM questions? keith whaley It was a legitimate response. Harold is using gmail via the mailing list. Now unless you'd like to talk him through how to get his gmail to show his replies (I don't), the best method (IMO) is for him to use the newsgroup(s) instead of the mailing list. Of what possible use is the LIST? Well, some of us don't get news... However, to set the mailling list so that you get a copy of what you post is simple. Go to https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey and login. One of the options down at the bottom of the page is Receive your own posts to the list? The default is no. Select yes. Then select submit changes. You should be good to go at this point. HTH, Gregory Hicks - Gregory Hicks | Principal Systems Engineer | Direct: 408.569.7928 People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf -- George Orwell The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. -- Thomas Jefferson The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. --Alexander Hamilton ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in Seamonkey
Beverly Howard wrote: her ;-) Beverly Howard http://BevHoward.com My apology, Beverly, for assuming you were a woman! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT population (was Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE)
NoOp wrote: On 08/13/2010 04:45 AM, Daniel wrote: JeffM wrote: David E. Ross wrote: snip Yup. *More*. Especially if you're in the 4th most populous nation: :Firefox’s share on many of the top Indonesian websites :is between 65-75%. http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2010/06/29/mozilla-in-indonesia-2010/ India1Bill, China1Bill, US of A approx 300Mill, Russia I'm guessing 200Mill, but Indonesia is only about 125Mill, isn't it?? Daniel https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html?countryName=IndonesiacountryCode=idregionCode=easrank=4#id Well, there you go, I must have bee n thinking back in the USSR days!! And was I thinking of number of Muslims in Indonesia?? Page Bookmarked. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
personal dictionary entries are never given as an option for misspelled words
Hi, I was kindly shown this bug report by one of the Seamonkey administrators: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338291 Anyone know if this will be fixed? Thankyou, Rudra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Keith, Your posts are making it here fine, go ahead and ask your question, please? If you are not seeing your posts, check your Junk folder. HTH ... Okay, thanks Doc but...I wasn't personally having any problems, I was referring to the valid lament Harold Robbins posted on 8/12, which is copied below. When NoOp's answer to Harold was that if he was not seeing messages he posted actually show up, he should send his inquiry to the newsgroup INSTEAD, I merely asked the next most logical question. I still ask: why instead? Why isn't sending any SeaMonkey help questions to the support-seamonkey Yahoo list adequate? keith NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote: I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies. WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Use the newsgroups instead: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey -- Harold Robbins Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @ support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org ...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate SM questions? keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Tue, 10 Aug 2010 02:01:21 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? I case you haven't find out, select the image, Format - Image Properties... [ ] Attach this image to the message. See also http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_remote.php. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
Keith Whaley wrote:
I still ask: why instead?
Why isn't sending any SeaMonkey help questions to the
support-seamonkey Yahoo list adequate?
I think noop was saying that gmail (from google, surprise)
has some sort of conflict with the mozilla discussion list.
Or so I understood his post.
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Re: More trouble with mysoju.com
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Can anyone figure this out? This website hosts videos by embedding them, and the visitor can normally play them without leaving the site by clicking the play button. Sometimes this doesn't work, though. Here's an example: http://www.mysoju.com/fullscreen/a-good-day-for-the-wind-to-blow/episode-40/part-1/ When I load this page in SM 1.1.16, I get the still image and the play button, but when I click play, nothing happens. If I click Watch this video on WAT, a new window opens at http://www.wat.tv/video/agooddayforthewindtoblow40-2w6nv_2w6mx_.html and the video autostarts and otherwise plays normally. When I load the mysoju page in Internet Exploiter 8, I don't get the still image, and I don't get the play button. Instead, I get an error message: Le player WAT a besoin de la version 9.0.115 ou superiéure, du plugin Flash. Vous avez la version 6.88.0. Cliquez pour mettre à jour votre plugin gratuitement. [The WAT player requires Flash plugin version 9.0.115 or higher. You have version 6.88.0. Click here to update your plugin at no charge.] Now, this is a mistake, because on checking the Windows Add/Remove Programs panel, I see that I have Adobe Flash Player 10 plugin and Adobe Shockwave Player 11.5. Presumably the problem is it doesn't see a relevant ActiveX control. Where it got the number 6.88.0 I have no idea. FWIW, SeaMonkey reports Shockwave Flash 10.1 r53, confirming what Windows says. Is there something wrong with the code mysoju is using to embed the video? As I said, I can play them fine at the WAT site, so I don't have a bad plugin. Thanks. The first site is streaming the video from the second site and has it set autostart/autoplay False. meaning you have to click on a button to start the stream and the playing of the movie. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in Seamonkey
Daniel wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: her ;-) Beverly Howard http://BevHoward.com My apology, Beverly, for assuming you were a woman! Daniel There are several Names Beverly being one that can be used as Man's name or a Woman's Name. Some though have different spellings. Example: Gale, Gayle, and Gail all sound exactly like. But Only Gale can be used as a Man's Name. Gene and Jean (Gene being male) Jamie can be either Male or female There are others I can't think of right now. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More trouble with mysoju.com
Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:52:24 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: http://www.mysoju.com/fullscreen/a-good-day-for-the-wind-to-blow/episode-40/part-1/ When I load this page in SM 1.1.16, I get the still image and the play button, but when I click play, nothing happens. Happens to me using SeaMonkey 2.0.6, Firefox 3.6.8, Safari 5 and Opera 10.60 all on Windows XP, too. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More trouble with mysoju.com
On 08/13/2010 11:52 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: ... FWIW, SeaMonkey reports Shockwave Flash 10.1 r53, confirming what Windows says. You should upgrade: Shockwave Flash Shockwave Flash 10.1 r82 Is there something wrong with the code mysoju is using to embed the video? As I said, I can play them fine at the WAT site, so I don't have a bad plugin. ... I think it's an issue with the code. If you right click on the 'Play' icon, you'll see: WAT.Tv Settings Global Settings About Adobe Flash Player 10 If you click on the WAT.tv - that links you directly to http://www.wat.tv/. Maybe? http://www.mysoju.com/report/74385/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
On 08/14/2010 01:14 AM, Gregory Hicks wrote: Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:08:20 -0700 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid.net On 08/13/2010 09:49 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: NoOp wrote: On 08/12/2010 06:32 PM, Harold Robbins wrote: I keep getting mail in the list, but I cannot see my Email nor get replies. WHere do I go for help in SeaMonkey ? Use the newsgroups instead: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @ support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org ...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate SM questions? keith whaley It was a legitimate response. Harold is using gmail via the mailing list. Now unless you'd like to talk him through how to get his gmail to show his replies (I don't), the best method (IMO) is for him to use the newsgroup(s) instead of the mailing list. Of what possible use is the LIST? Well, some of us don't get news... However, to set the mailling list so that you get a copy of what you post is simple. Go to https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey and login. One of the options down at the bottom of the page is Receive your own posts to the list? The default is no. Select yes. Then select submit changes. You should be good to go at this point. That might work, but I suspect not. I do not have an Gmail account so I can't be certain, but I do know that there are issues with gmail and lists: http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=mailing+lists+%2Bgmail+%2BcopiesbtnG=Search Samples: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=2926a8b8e3050679hl=en http://support.tigertech.net/mailman-gmail http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
Keith Whaley schrieb: Excuse me folks, but...of what possible use is the list @ support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org ...if one must use the newsgroup in order to get answers to legitimate SM questions? The list itself works well, the Google Groups gateway sucks. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening links in Seamonkey
Phillip Jones wrote: There are several Names Beverly being one that can be used as Man's name or a Woman's Name. Some though have different spellings. Example: Gale, Gayle, and Gail all sound exactly like. But Only Gale can be used as a Man's Name. Gene and Jean (Gene being male) Jamie can be either Male or female There are others I can't think of right now. The two most commonly used on Saturday Night Live to take advantage of this are Pat (Patrick/Patricia) and Chris (Christopher/Christine). And of course many foreign names, because we don't recognize them, could be anything. A Korean will know instantly that Daehan and Minguk are masculine and Miran and Obok are feminine, but no American would know... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: eml messages - copy including photos ?
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 02:01:21 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: Returning to the topic, isn't there some setting that tells SM whether to include images themselves or just link to their remote location? I case you haven't find out, select the image, Format - Image Properties... [ ] Attach this image to the message. See also http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_remote.php. Perfect. Hope the OP sees this. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More trouble with mysoju.com
Phillip Jones wrote: The first site is streaming the video from the second site and has it set autostart/autoplay False. meaning you have to click on a button to start the stream and the playing of the movie. Yes. But as I said in my original query, when I click the play button, it just sits there. The video doesn't start. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[SM 2.0.6, Ubuntu 10.04] Cannot set helper application for MS Word documents
When I rightclick-Open MS Word documents in my inbox, I can select the application I wish to use (IBM Symphony, in my case) - but the option to remember the choice is greyed out. Can someone tell me what I need to do so that SM remembers my choice? I've looked at the mimeTypes.rdf file, suppose I could try editing it, but that seems a last resort... Thanks! -- Rob Lindauer - for my real address, replace att with sbc ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/13/10 2:27 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE I have put http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif in the url-adress part of mi IE8 and IT WORKS ! Yes. IE is broken in that it allows \ in a server-based URI when the internationally recognized specification says that \ is not allowed. You want Gecko (the core for Firefox, SeaMonkey, and others) to be similarly broken. Most of us would prefer that Gecko not be broken. but SM(or Gecko) is broken when he accept \ in a server-based URI when this server is on my pc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Solved [SM 2.0.6, Ubuntu 10.04] Cannot set helper application for MS Word documents
Rob Lindauer wrote: When I rightclick-Open MS Word documents in my inbox, I can select the application I wish to use (IBM Symphony, in my case) - but the option to remember the choice is greyed out. Can someone tell me what I need to do so that SM remembers my choice? I've looked at the mimeTypes.rdf file, suppose I could try editing it, but that seems a last resort... Thanks! Hmmm... The next time I tried to open a Word doc, Symphony was now the default app - and the remember choice checkbox was active. Still a bit weird, but at least I have the association now. Thx, RL -- Rob Lindauer - for my real address, replace att with sbc ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point. If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally. Could you try ... with SM the following: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg The problem is that i must have my pc up and running my webserver for you to test ... (i power off my pc when i don't use it - so tell me a date/time) For you (and i suppose also that's for me) it's a remote server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point. If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally. Could you try ... with SM the following: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg WFM, with SM 2.0.6. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:47, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- The offending url is: http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g635802-d1448378-Reviews-Auberge_l_Orry_le_Saquet-Ax_les_Thermes_Ariege_Midi_Pyrenees.html Works here just fine in ALL of my browsers, what is offending about it? Even works on my iPhone 4 You don't understand ... or a have bad explained :-) When i pass to you the url, using SM it's clickable for you,... ... but this same url in the mail from my wife is not clickable with my SM reading this mail. (i sent hereafter a copy of the mail received upon the request of J. Weaver Jr. saying: Can you post the source for that email from your wife with the non-functioning URL? ) In this mail, i can see the url typed correctly. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and Adobe Reader
David E. Ross wrote: [...]reinstalled Adobe Reader[...] something [regarding] the way it was previously installed really clobbered SeaMonkey. I got three crashes in a half hour I've never liked software from Macromedia/Adobe. Reinforcing my prejudice against that brand: Of late, the number of exploitable gotchas showing up in their content displayers has become ridiculous. I say *any time you can use another app/vendor, give that a go*. http://google.com/search?q=GhostScripthl=all http://google.com/search?q=Foxithl=all I note that some of the gotchas that have infested Adobe's junk have been present in Foxit's offerings as well. 8-( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: There are several Names...
As ELO said in a song, What's in a name... With a name like Joe...we can get Joe, Joey, Josephine, Joseph and who knows what else from that one. And that's only counting English. As far as Beverly is concerned, via travels in Britain, Bev is the general masculine name, and Beverly the usual feminine. Ahh, those plucky British...always able to get most out of one thing...:)... Joe From: Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com Phillip Jones wrote: There are several Names Beverly being one that can be used as Man's name or a Woman's Name. Some though have different spellings. Example: Gale, Gayle, and Gail all sound exactly like. But Only Gale can be used as a Man's Name. Gene and Jean (Gene being male) Jamie can be either Male or female There are others I can't think of right now. The two most commonly used on Saturday Night Live to take advantage of this are Pat (Patrick/Patricia) and Chris (Christopher/Christine). And of course many foreign names, because we don't recognize them, could be anything. A Korean will know instantly that Daehan and Minguk are masculine and Miran and Obok are feminine, but no American would know... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point. If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally. Could you try ... with SM the following: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg WFM, with SM 2.0.6. -JW Thanks for the test ... Jay Garcia wrote: If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif And in other words J. Weaver Jr. wrote: If you try my examples, you'll find that it DOES WORK on a remote server: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: There are several Names...
what was the comedian that had the bit about you can call and gave several different names but then said just don't call me late to lunch. . Info WG wrote: As ELO said in a song, What's in a name... With a name like Joe...we can get Joe, Joey, Josephine, Joseph and who knows what else from that one. And that's only counting English. As far as Beverly is concerned, via travels in Britain, Bev is the general masculine name, and Beverly the usual feminine. Ahh, those plucky British...always able to get most out of one thing...:)... Joe From: Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com mailto:pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com Phillip Jones wrote: There are several Names Beverly being one that can be used as Man's name or a Woman's Name. Some though have different spellings. Example: Gale, Gayle, and Gail all sound exactly like. But Only Gale can be used as a Man's Name. Gene and Jean (Gene being male) Jamie can be either Male or female There are others I can't think of right now. The two most commonly used on Saturday Night Live to take advantage of this are Pat (Patrick/Patricia) and Chris (Christopher/Christine). And of course many foreign names, because we don't recognize them, could be anything. A Korean will know instantly that Daehan and Minguk are masculine and Miran and Obok are feminine, but no American would know... -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 8/13/10 2:27 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 15:18, Jay Garcia wrote: --- Original Message --- Try these links in a few browsers: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images/logo.gif Ok http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif Not Found The requested URL /themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.41 Ben-SSL/1.59 Server at www.ufaq.org Port 80 Does not work in Firefox, Seamonkey or IE I have put http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif in the url-adress part of mi IE8 and IT WORKS ! Yes. IE is broken in that it allows \ in a server-based URI when the internationally recognized specification says that \ is not allowed. You want Gecko (the core for Firefox, SeaMonkey, and others) to be similarly broken. Most of us would prefer that Gecko not be broken. but SM(or Gecko) is broken when he accept \ in a server-based URI when this server is on my pc. Yes I agree. Just more mozilla trying be as Like IE as Possible while appearing different. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL links not active?
Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:47, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- The offending url is: http://www.tripadvisor.fr/Hotel_Review-g635802-d1448378-Reviews-Auberge_l_Orry_le_Saquet-Ax_les_Thermes_Ariege_Midi_Pyrenees.html Works here just fine in ALL of my browsers, what is offending about it? Even works on my iPhone 4 You don't understand ... or a have bad explained :-) When i pass to you the url, using SM it's clickable for you,... ... but this same url in the mail from my wife is not clickable with my SM reading this mail. (i sent hereafter a copy of the mail received upon the request of J. Weaver Jr. saying: Can you post the source for that email from your wife with the non-functioning URL? ) In this mail, i can see the URL typed correctly. SM/TB have the ability built in to convert http:// or mailto: URL or click-able email addresses. Not all Mail clients have this ability. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 14.08.2010 15:15, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point. If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally. Could you try ... with SM the following: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg The problem is that i must have my pc up and running my webserver for you to test ... (i power off my pc when i don't use it - so tell me a date/time) For you (and i suppose also that's for me) it's a remote server. Can't get there with any browser: Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact raymond.homedns.org. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 14.08.2010 15:21, J. Weaver Jr. wrote: --- Original Message --- Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point. If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally. Could you try ... with SM the following: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg WFM, with SM 2.0.6. -JW Doesn't here with any browser, get this: Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact raymond.homedns.org. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
On 14.08.2010 17:22, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this case is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator, therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and result in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not being clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of forward slashes for hierarchical path separators. So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward slash ? No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow: file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ? I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in another reply: news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a more technical group. I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings why it did not work when uploaded for online general use. File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser. file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will automatically insert two more // such as: file:///c:/directory/file.htm Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore the backslash \ is rendered correctly. If you try: http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work. As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg with SM works ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine) Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point. If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally. Could you try ... with SM the following: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg WFM, with SM 2.0.6. -JW Thanks for the test ... Jay Garcia wrote: If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server: http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif And in other words J. Weaver Jr. wrote: If you try my examples, you'll find that it DOES WORK on a remote server: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg My example and your example doesn't work here with SM 2.0.6 or FF 3.0.8 -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Help?
On 08/14/2010 10:44 AM, NoOp wrote: On 08/14/2010 01:14 AM, Gregory Hicks wrote: ... Glad to see that you got your threading issues worked out :-) One of the options down at the bottom of the page is Receive your own posts to the list? The default is no. Select yes. Then select submit changes. You should be good to go at this point. That might work, but I suspect not. I do not have an Gmail account so I can't be certain, but I do know that there are issues with gmail and lists: http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=mailing+lists+%2Bgmail+%2BcopiesbtnG=Search Samples: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=2926a8b8e3050679hl=en http://support.tigertech.net/mailman-gmail http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588 Added point: http://ilias.ca/moznewsgroups-sm shows how to use nntp for the news.mozilla.org newsgroups. It would be helpful if the basic http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community page took some initiative and create a *useful* howto support page. That page does point to Chris' page via: SeaMonkey Help Contributed by a long-time SeaMonkey fan, this page hosts various user support documents as well as a document describing the differences between Firefox/Thunderbird and SeaMonkey very well. but Chris has been trying to get rid of, or sell off the page for some time. SM should step up and create a proper FAQ/Wiki page of it's own (perhaps by coordinating with Chris to port http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/. [Thanks Chris] BTW: For a perspective of the wider Mozilla community that we are a part of, read the mozilla.org community page. http://www.mozilla.org/community/ doesn't have anything regarding SeaMonkey... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE
Jay Garcia: On 14.08.2010 15:21, J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Could you try ... with SM the following: http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg WFM, with SM 2.0.6. -JW Doesn't here with any browser, get this: Failed to Connect It had worked for me on SM 2.1, but now there is a problem with the server. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
