How do I backup my SeaMonkey now ?
I thought I saw a "Backup SeaMonkey" option when I was looking thru the menu bar, but I cannot now find that. How do I backup this SM 2.46 before something goes TU ? To Thumb Drive ? How big is the complete backup (file) if I do that ? DoctorBill -- If you are Russian going into the Bathroom and Finnish leaving the Bathroom, What are you while you're in the Bathroom? European.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Duplicate Mail Account (?)
Somehow one of my mail accounts got duplicated - it show up twice. When I go to examine it, it says it is a "Special Account" with no identities associated with it. The "Remove Account" option is greyed out in the "Name" column (left side). Can I safely remove that "Special Account" - How ? ALSO - - - - - - - - - Mail opens but not in the top Message - just that big Announcement thing. How do I get it to open showing the top message ? DoctorBill -- If you are Russian going into the Bathroom and Finnish leaving the Bathroom, What are you while you're in the Bathroom? European.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cookie handling question
EE wrote: NFN Smith wrote: I was poking in the cookie manager, and managed to delete all my saved cookie permissions. As a default, I generally let sites set session-level cookies, and then I have things set to flush all my cookies when I shut down Seamonkey. However, there's a number of sites that I really don't want setting cookies, ever, and enough that I don't remember all of them. I went to my backups and restored cookies.sqlite, but it looks like that's not where these settings are, as all the cookie permissions are still gone. I don't see any other cookie-related files in the profile. Thus, the question of where the cookie permissions are stored -- places.sqlite, perhaps, or something else? Smith Bookmarks and history are stored in places.sqlite. Cookies are stored in cookies.sqlite. Cookie permissions are stored in permissions.sqlite. That's what I needed, thanks. I'm not sure why I didn't see permissions.sqlite when I was looking at the list of files. However, I decided that it was better to ask, rather than having to go through several iterations of trial-and-error to find things. As it turns out, apparently I had discarded most of my permissions recently. The most recent backup shows only a few explicit permissions, so I went to an older backup, and the full list is there, and now I have everything that I want. Thanks for the feedback. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with Google line wrap
Dirk Munk wrote: EE wrote: Dirk Munk wrote: Richmond wrote: You could just disable javascript when using google search. The tools then appear as a menu on the left. Thanks for the suggestion, but disabling and enabling Javascript all of the time is a bit impractical. Lemuel's solution is working like a dream, and I don't have to think of anything with regard to this problem when I'm browsing. If you get YesScript, you can disable just Google's ability to use javascript. Sure, but that would be for all of Google's web sites, including for instance Google maps. I don't know if that is such a good idea. What I did was use one country code for Google search and a different one for Google maps. I disabled javascript for the search URL. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Used Computer had FireFox on it - Can I remove it safely ?
DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: My old XP run computer finally died. Previous Post on this News Group. I bought a used Business Computer with Windows & Professional on it. However, being a SeaMonkey Fan for YEARS - I loaded and am running SeaMonkey 2.46 now. Can I use the Control Panel's "Add/Remove" to safely remove FireFox w/o now harming my SeaMonkey program ? I wonder because they are Both Mozilla and may now share things between them. DoctorBill Typo - Windows 7 Professional. Profiles are not shared. You can completely remove Firefox without harming SeaMonkey. You could backup SeaMonkey's profile anyway just in case of other future problems. Having a backup never hurts. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tweaking SeaMonkey 2.48 display
EE wrote: David H. Durgee wrote: I would like to tweak the way SeaMonkey 2.48 displays selected items that do not have the focus. For example, while I am creating this post The "m.s.seamonkey" group is selected in the list of newsgroups and is displayed as dim grey text on a dark grey background. That makes the text totally unreadable unless I move to within a few inches of the display. When I switch focus to the news/mail window that changes to white text on a light green background, which is quite readable. While I was creating this post a post came into the folder, which changed the text color to bright blue which is quite readable. I assume that it is possible to tweak this, but have no idea where to put what. I suspect that changing the text color to white on dark grey would work fine. Thanks for any assistance in this tweak. Dave You could install another theme and use that. EarlyBlue makes everything easily readable. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/earlyblue/ You could alternately create a userChrome.css file and just tweak the colours using that. I do not know what specific elements to tweak, since I have not had to do that. http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css With the exception of the color choices in the selected but not focused text I am happy with the theme, which is Little Monkey for Sea Monkey 2.0.27 which I have been using for a long time. I don't recall having this problem earlier, so it seems to have something to do with later releases of Sea Monkey. Your mention of UserChrome.css was exactly what I was thinking of, but I likewise have no idea what elements to tweak nor the format of the tweaks themselves. That was the reason for the post, appealing to those who have more knowledge of the topic than I do. If I don't get a response from the newsgroup I will see if I can contact the author, although the theme has been untouched since June, 2015. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tweaking SeaMonkey 2.48 display
David H. Durgee wrote: I would like to tweak the way SeaMonkey 2.48 displays selected items that do not have the focus. For example, while I am creating this post The "m.s.seamonkey" group is selected in the list of newsgroups and is displayed as dim grey text on a dark grey background. That makes the text totally unreadable unless I move to within a few inches of the display. When I switch focus to the news/mail window that changes to white text on a light green background, which is quite readable. While I was creating this post a post came into the folder, which changed the text color to bright blue which is quite readable. I assume that it is possible to tweak this, but have no idea where to put what. I suspect that changing the text color to white on dark grey would work fine. Thanks for any assistance in this tweak. Dave You could install another theme and use that. EarlyBlue makes everything easily readable. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/earlyblue/ You could alternately create a userChrome.css file and just tweak the colours using that. I do not know what specific elements to tweak, since I have not had to do that. http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cookie handling question
NFN Smith wrote: I was poking in the cookie manager, and managed to delete all my saved cookie permissions. As a default, I generally let sites set session-level cookies, and then I have things set to flush all my cookies when I shut down Seamonkey. However, there's a number of sites that I really don't want setting cookies, ever, and enough that I don't remember all of them. I went to my backups and restored cookies.sqlite, but it looks like that's not where these settings are, as all the cookie permissions are still gone. I don't see any other cookie-related files in the profile. Thus, the question of where the cookie permissions are stored -- places.sqlite, perhaps, or something else? Smith Bookmarks and history are stored in places.sqlite. Cookies are stored in cookies.sqlite. Cookie permissions are stored in permissions.sqlite. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Icons - bottom Stacked versus Across Bottom ?
David E. Ross wrote: My wife's PC does not even have the hardware capacity for Windows 7. She still uses Windows XP. That is helpful because our Canon scanner is still in excellent condition and is installed on her PC because I cannot find drivers for it to work with later versions of Windows. This is getting to be way off-topic for Seamonkey, but I'll note that several years ago, I had a Canon printer. When I moved to Windows 7 from XP, the printer was old enough that there wasn't a Win 7 driver for it, but I found that it worked just fine (from Windows 7) using an XP driver. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Cookie handling question
I was poking in the cookie manager, and managed to delete all my saved cookie permissions. As a default, I generally let sites set session-level cookies, and then I have things set to flush all my cookies when I shut down Seamonkey. However, there's a number of sites that I really don't want setting cookies, ever, and enough that I don't remember all of them. I went to my backups and restored cookies.sqlite, but it looks like that's not where these settings are, as all the cookie permissions are still gone. I don't see any other cookie-related files in the profile. Thus, the question of where the cookie permissions are stored -- places.sqlite, perhaps, or something else? Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Used Computer had FireFox on it - Can I remove it safely ?
Arnie Goetchius wrote: Yes, you can. However, you may want to leave Firefox installed. I just tried to run a report on my broker's web site where the results of a the report are saved to a file on my PC. Firefox would save the file but Seamonkey would not. This topic has come up several times in this group, over the last year. Some sites are aggressive with sniffing for browsers, and sometimes they're over-aggressive about looking explicitly for Firefox, rather than Gecko browsers. The problem lessened considerably after Seamonkey changed the default user agent string to spoof Firefox, and show the Seamonkey name, rather than explicitly identifying itself as Seamonkey (without reference to Firefox). However, there's still some sites (especially financial) that may barf if they find a UA string that is something other than the one used by Firefox itself. Some of it may be incompetence on the part of coders who are doing browser sniffing, in not recognizing that Firefox is merely one implementation of a Gecko browser, rather than the only one. However, I think that a lot of times, insistence on Firefox comes from people who do user support, allowing them to insist, "we only support Firefox". If you bump into the rare site that demands Firefox, then you can do user agent spoofing, via an extension. User Agent Switcher and PrefBar are the most common tools for doing that. Personally, I find PrefBar easier to use, and I like the other things that it allows me to get to quickly. The one catch with PrefBar is that the default user agent strings offered are *really* old, and you have to go into the config settings and adjust things so that you're showing a reasonably current version of Firefox. It's easy enough to change browser string on the fly, but if you use the default Firefox string, the version shown is in the vintage of 4.x, and some sites will refuse that, because it's a really old version of Firefox. That said, there's nothing wrong with having more than one browser installed, and in my own use, there are times when it's useful to have more than one browser open simultaneously, especially on occasions when I need to log into a web site with two different IDs simultaneously. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: memory leaks in SeaMonkey 2.48
On 4/5/17 3:33 PM, Mason83 wrote: On 28/03/2017 20:58, Mason83 wrote: On 28/03/2017 18:09, David H. Durgee wrote: Looking at the memory report in the browser I see the following: └──-2,644.69 MB (-158.38%) ── heap-unclassified [?!] The memory figure is highlighted in red, so I assume this is a problem. I have the memory report saved and can make it available to you. This looks like some kind of wrap-around of a signed 32-bit variable... Here is a similar report I got (anonymized) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 Build identifier: 20170129231126 PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 3900 me20 0 3771572 2,184g 118016 S 1,0 56,6 261:21.26 seamonkey Main Process WARNING: the following values are negative or unreasonably large. explicit/(19 tiny) explicit/(19 tiny)/heap-unclassified This indicates a defect in one or more memory reporters. The invalid values are highlighted. Explicit Allocations 2,177.11 MB (100.0%) -- explicit ├──1,717.08 MB (78.87%) -- maildb │ ├482.04 MB (22.14%) ── database(news://XXX) │ ├329.31 MB (15.13%) ── database(imap://XXX) │ ├251.00 MB (11.53%) ── database(news://XXX) │ ├145.23 MB (06.67%) ── database(news://XXX) │ ├─97.12 MB (04.46%) ── database(news://XXX) │ ├─83.93 MB (03.86%) ── database(imap://XXX) │ ├─79.31 MB (03.64%) ── database(imap://XXX) │ ├─75.64 MB (03.47%) ── database(imap://XXX) │ ├─42.90 MB (01.97%) ── database(imap://XXX) │ ├─37.75 MB (01.73%) ++ (16 tiny) │ ├─37.49 MB (01.72%) ── database(imap://XXX) │ ├─28.34 MB (01.30%) ── database(imap://XXX) │ └─27.01 MB (01.24%) ── database(snews://XXX) ├618.48 MB (28.41%) -- window-objects │├──564.71 MB (25.94%) -- top(none) ││ ├──521.49 MB (23.95%) -- detached ││ │ ├──135.31 MB (06.21%) -- window(chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul) ││ │ │ ├───69.91 MB (03.21%) -- js-compartment([System Principal], about:blank) ││ │ │ │ ├──40.36 MB (01.85%) -- classes ││ │ │ │ │ ├──25.21 MB (01.16%) -- class(Function)/objects ││ │ │ │ │ │ ├──24.79 MB (01.14%) ── gc-heap [46] ││ │ │ │ │ │ └───0.41 MB (00.02%) ── malloc-heap/slots [46] ││ │ │ │ │ └──15.15 MB (00.70%) ++ (6 tiny) ││ │ │ │ └──29.55 MB (01.36%) ++ (6 tiny) ││ │ │ ├───63.92 MB (02.94%) -- dom ││ │ │ │ ├──43.31 MB (01.99%) ── element-nodes [46] ││ │ │ │ └──20.60 MB (00.95%) ++ (4 tiny) ││ │ │ └1.48 MB (00.07%) ++ (2 tiny) ││ │ ├──135.12 MB (06.21%) -- window(chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul) ││ │ │ ├───85.63 MB (03.93%) -- js-compartment([System Principal], about:blank) ││ │ │ │ ├──46.91 MB (02.15%) -- classes ││ │ │ │ │ ├──35.30 MB (01.62%) -- class(Function)/objects ││ │ │ │ │ │ ├──34.62 MB (01.59%) ── gc-heap [65] ││ │ │ │ │ │ └───0.69 MB (00.03%) ── malloc-heap/slots [65] ││ │ │ │ │ └──11.61 MB (00.53%) ++ (5 tiny) ││ │ │ │ ├──28.09 MB (01.29%) ++ scripts ││ │ │ │ └──10.62 MB (00.49%) ++ (4 tiny) ││ │ │ ├───49.21 MB (02.26%) -- dom ││ │ │ │ ├──35.94 MB (01.65%) ── element-nodes [65] ││ │ │ │ └──13.27 MB (00.61%) ++ (4 tiny) ││ │ │ └0.28 MB (00.01%) ++ (2 tiny) ││ │ ├──112.00 MB (05.14%) -- window(chrome://messenger/content/messageWindow.xul) ││ │ │ ├───66.50 MB (03.05%) -- js-compartment([System Principal], about:blank) ││ │ │ │ ├──38.84 MB (01.78%) -- classes ││ │ │ │ │ ├──28.37 MB (01.30%) -- class(Function)/objects ││ │ │ │ │ │ ├──28.00 MB (01.29%) ── gc-heap [65] ││ │ │ │ │ │ └───0.36 MB (00.02%) ── malloc-heap/slots [65] ││ │ │ │ │ └──10.48 MB (00.48%) ++ (5 tiny) ││ │ │ │ └──27.65 MB (01.27%) ++ (5 tiny) ││ │ │ ├───45.19 MB (02.08%) -- dom ││ │ │ │ ├──31.74 MB (01.46%) ── element-nodes [65] ││ │ │ │ └──13.45 MB (00.62%) ++ (3 tiny) ││ │ │ └0.32 MB (00.01%) ++ (2 tiny) ││ │ ├──101.75 MB (04.67%) -- window(chrome://messenger/content/messengercompose/messengercompose.xul) ││ │ │ ├───63.55 MB (02.92%) -- js-compartment([System Principal], about:blank) ││ │ │ │ ├──34.76 MB (01.60%) -- classes ││ │ │ │ │ ├──26.81 MB (01.23%) -- class(Function)/objects ││ │ │ │ │ │ ├──26.41 MB (01.21%) ── gc-heap [57] ││ │ │ │ │ │ └───0.40 MB (00.02%) ── malloc-heap/slots [57] ││ │ │ │ │ └───7.95 MB (00.37%) ++ (6 tiny) ││ │ │ │ ├──21.81 MB (01.00%) ++ scripts ││ │ │ │ └───6.98 MB (00.32%) ++ (5 tiny) ││ │ │ ├───37.84 MB (01.74%) -- dom ││ │ │ │ ├──27.44 MB (01.26%) ── element-nodes [57] ││ │ │ │ └──10.39 MB (00.48%) ++ (3 tiny) ││ │ │ └0.37 MB (00.02%) ++ (2 tiny) ││ │ └───37.31 MB (01.71%) ++ (9 tiny) ││
Re: Installing SeaMonkey on Linux - Clairification request
On 04/05/2017 06:54 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/5/17 7:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/05/2017 05:50 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/5/17 11:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: My target machine is a laptop with multiple users having Debian Jessie with MATE desktop. I'll use the package from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ rather than from Debian repository. I wish clarification of instructions at www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux The first paragraph states: Note: There is no installer available, but just extracting the tar.bz2 to the default directory (usually /usr/local/seamonkey) achieves the same result as an installer would. The instructions then say to do mkdir seamonkey2 cd seamonkey2 and then extract files to that directory. Question: Is the intent to place the files in /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey2 ? My intention is for all users to: 1. access the same executable. 2. have profiles and profile.ini under their own home directory. The intent is to place the files in /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey2. I would just use /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey That should would for all users to access the same executable. Each users profile and profile.ini would be in the hidden .mozilla folder in their own home directory. Being past 3 score and 10, I ask first :/ Make sure you use the -p switch for the executable. I assume that's the same as when I was under WinXP. Secondary Question: How do I replace the links to Firefox/Iceweasel in the Applications->Internet sub-menu with SeaMonkey? No idea. Acknowledged ;) Along with my previous post. Each user will have their own user account on the target laptop? Yes. And thanks for the link. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Icons - bottom Stacked versus Across Bottom ?
David E. Ross wrote: On 4/5/2017 7:49 AM, Dirk Munk wrote: DoctorBill wrote: Using SM 2.46 in Windows 7. Windows or SM option ? My SM Icons are stacked one on top of another at Lower Left. Is there an option to just line them up across the bottom bar ? Stacked is a PITAI liked the way XP did it before. DoctorBill Windows 7 is nearing end-of-life. Do yourself a favour, and switch to Windows 10. That is the only Windows version that will be maintained, Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 have no future. Yes, it does require a bit of learning, but after a while you don't know any better. After upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8 I noticed that my (quite powerful) laptop was much faster and snappier. That is still the case with Windows 10. According to Microsoft, Windows 10 is the last Windows version, there will be no new ones, just major upgrades. Put as much memory as possible in your laptop (at least 8GB) if you can afford it. Having a desktop and not a laptop, having no touch-screen, not wanting my usage history sent back to Microsoft, and using old software that has no new versions but will not work with Windows 10, I choose to stay with Windows 7. My wife's PC does not even have the hardware capacity for Windows 7. She still uses Windows XP. That is helpful because our Canon scanner is still in excellent condition and is installed on her PC because I cannot find drivers for it to work with later versions of Windows. I'm working in the ICT, and over the years I've heard numerous excuses why someone didn't want to upgrade. So, nothing new here. If you want to continue using operating systems that are unsafe, because they are no longer updated with security patches, than that is entirely your own choice and your own responsibility too! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM Icons - bottom Stacked versus Across Bottom ?
On 6/04/2017 12:09 AM, Daniel wrote: On 5/04/2017 4:57 PM, Daniel wrote: On 5/04/2017 8:54 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Right click on a free area in the Taskbar and pick Properties from the context menu. Under Taskbar buttons I use "Combine when taskbar is full". I also use small icons. FRG DoctorBill wrote: No - that is not it. The SeaMonkey Icon (program Running) and other programs running on Win 7 are reduced to Icons on the TaskBar. I fingered out that this is a Windows 7 issue and "had at it." I have so much to learn with Windows 7 ! Found a "Windows 7 for Dummies" in a Goodwill Store. By the time I learn most of it, they will stop supporting it and be pushing Windows 23. (probably take up 2.7 Terabytes of memory - and read your mind. Wear an Aluminum Foil cap !) Thanks guys. DB Thank you, Frank-Rainer. This has annoyed me since I got this laptop not enough to do anything about it, but I have now!! Well . almost!! At the moment, I have four SeaMonkey windows open, Chatzilla, Mail & News, Browser and this Compose window. So I have four Icons showing in the Taskbar, however, when I mouse over any of these four Icons in my Win7 Taskbar, I get four selectable screens, one for each of the SM windows ... but I guess this is a Win7 problem not SM!! Just noticed ... If I select one of the Toolbar icons, the four screens display but the selected screen has a Red 'X' in the top right to close that particular screen!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
