Re: Individual Sig files for UseNet server??
On 4/2/2021 6:29 PM, Daniel wrote: > As you can see, on the news server I have a sig file indicating my use > of SeaMonkey on both Win7 and Linux. > > With the impending move to UseNet, having just a single sig file might > not be suitable. > > So, is it possible to have "newsgroup specific" sig files so that, if > I'm posting to a SeaMonkey group it indicates what version of SeaMonkey > I using, if I'm posting to a Win7 group the sig file indicates I'm on > Win7 and if posting to a Linux group the sig file indicates what version > of Linux I'm using ... as examples?? And a general, plain vanilla, one > for the rest. > > And, if so, how?? > > TIA > I do not know if it is compatible with your recent version of SeaMonkey or if it was ever compatible with any version, but you might try the Signature Switch extension. I am using it with Thunderbird 52.9.1. It sets a default signature but then allows you to select a non-default signature for a given newsgroup or E-mail address. It also allows you to manually select a saved signature without having to manually type the signature. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com> While a "vaccination passport" to prove someone has been vaccinated against COVID-19 seems to be a good idea, most concepts involve smart phones. What about those of us who have been vaccinated but do not have a smart phone? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?
On 3/30/2021 4:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
> It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
> Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
> Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be
> automatically fatal to it also?
> Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
> Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?
>
I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org. Messages were posted there as recently as
today.
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David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com>
While a "vaccination passport" to prove someone has been
vaccinated against COVID-19 seems to be a good idea, most
concepts involve smart phones. What about those of us
who have been vaccinated but do not have a smart phone?
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Re: seamonkey-dev, and seamonkey-support lists/newsgroups
On 3/29/2021 11:49 PM, Edmund Wong wrote: > Dear All, > > If you're not aware by now, please let me state that both the Mailing > Lists and Newsgroups will be decommissioned soon (Early April). > > Why? > === > > Why indeed. Tbh, I don't know why. I would believe it's related > to the overhead of maintenance and such; but whatever the > reasons are, it's a fact. This is going to go to /dev/null. > > > What to do? > == > > We're in the process of finding alternatives to these methods of > communications. > > Yes, I'm quite dismayed at the loss of the newsgroups; but I'm > sure we'll make do with what we come up with as an alternative. > > So please monitor any updates to https://blog.seamonkey-project.org. > > Thanks! > > Edmund > Why not create alt.seamonkey.support and alt.seamonkey.develop? Alternatively, ask at news.groups.proposals on any general NNTP server to create comp.seamonkey.support and comp.seamonkey.develop, which could then be moderated (but not by Chris Ilias). -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com> While a "vaccination passport" to prove someone has been vaccinated against COVID-19 seems to be a good idea, most concepts involve smart phones. What about those of us who have been vaccinated but do not have a smart phone? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password managers
On 3/14/2021 1:21 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: > I have never used a password manager, but I am being pushed to use one. > But I'd like to know if any of them are compatible with SeaMonkey. Can > someone help me, please? Why not use the password manager that is already built into SeaMonkey? I would definitely avoid any third-party password manager that stores passwords on an external server or on the cloud. Those are very tempting targets for hackers. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Best size for SM Cache ?
On 2/19/2021 11:07 PM, DoctorBill wrote: > Paul in Houston, TX wrote: >> DoctorBill wrote: >>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote: >>>> DoctorBill wrote: >>>>> Been having problems with cursor Freezing up. Total Lockup. >>>>> Have to kill compuker and restart. I figured it was the amount of >>>>> "Free >>>>> Space" on my hard drive, so I moved a lot of Picture Files to a >>>>> Thumbdrive. >>>>> >>>>> Of a 250 GB Solid State Drive I now have ~ 40 GB has been free'd up. >>>>> >>>>> Also my Cache size was determined by SM. So I SET the max Cache Size >>>>> to 4 GB. Huge, but I don't know what else to do to stop the Mouse >>>>> Cursor >>>>> Freeze Ups. HP Optical Mouse. Windows 7 with 'Updates" turned OFF. >>>>> Virus and Trojan free (Malwarebytes). Could I be going too fast >>>>> transferring ? >>>>> >>>>> So - is a possible of 4 GB of Cache Good ? >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions of why Cursor freezes up. Usually when I am viewing >>>>> graphics >>>>> files or about to save them. Always happens when using SMand >>>>> Paint.net and >>>>> GraphicsWorkShop Pro (Alchemy Mindworks). Usually Windows Explorer >>>>> on, too. >>>>> >>>>> DoctorBill >>>> >>>> How much ram do you have? >>>> 64 bit o/s? >>>> This machine has 16GB ram and my web cache is set to Zero. >>>> Don't need a cache with enough ram. >>>> Also, try turning hardware acceleration on or off. >>>> https://appuals.com/disable-hardware-acceleration-windows-7-8-8-1-10/ >>>> >>> >>> My system 3.10 GHz, 64 bit, 8 GB RAM. 250 GB SS HD, 18% (41,6 >>> GB) free. >>> >>> DoctorBill >> >> The specs on your comp are quite good. You really don't need much of a >> cache, or any cache. Something else is freezing up the cursor. >> Try the hardware acceleration suggestion above. >> Turn it off if on and on if off and see. > > > PAUL - > > I followed the link on accessing the Hardware Acceleration and the > Button was greyed out. > Not available for on/off control. > I DO NOT want to mess with the Registry ! > > If the Cache size has nothing to do with it, no Malware found - what else ? > It happens when messing with transfer or saving of Graphics. I often > take photos of my > hobby stuff with digital cameras, edit the photos mostly with Paint.net > (adding labels > and modifying Contrast & Saturation), then save then send to others via > E-Mail or enter > them in Forums. Antiques. At unexpected times the Cursor won't move. > Lockup. > Can't Ctrl-Atl-Del to the Task Manager. Have to turn computer off then. > > I shouldn't be getting this with 8 GB of RAM. It is an HP Office > Computer bought used > with Intel Core I 3.1 GHz 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 Pro. Been working fine > until just recently. > > Could this be coming from various online sites boogering up Windows 7 > because MS wants > them to reject itOr am I just zipping around TOO FAST for the Win 7 > software to keep > the cursor from going off in the software programming lines of commands. > i.e. demanding > more than this machine can handle quickly enough ? Stuck in a "Do Loop" ? > > DoctorBill > One thing that freezes my system -- including my mouse -- is a poorly coded JavaScript. I know from experience several Web sites have that problem. I disable JavaScript before visiting them. Another thing causing the problem for me is unecessary images from third-party domains, especially animated. I restrict images to only those from the domain of the Web page I select. I also disable HTML5 media unless I know that I really want to see video. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Best size for SM Cache ?
On 2/19/2021 1:10 PM, DoctorBill wrote: > Been having problems with cursor Freezing up. Total Lockup. > Have to kill compuker and restart. I figured it was the amount of "Free > Space" on my hard drive, so I moved a lot of Picture Files to a Thumbdrive. > > Of a 250 GB Solid State Drive I now have ~ 40 GB has been free'd up. > > Also my Cache size was determined by SM. So I SET the max Cache Size > to 4 GB.Huge, but I don't know what else to do to stop the Mouse Cursor > Freeze Ups. HP Optical Mouse. Windows 7 with 'Updates" turned OFF. > Virus and Trojan free (Malwarebytes). Could I be going too fast > transferring ? > > So - is a possible of 4 GB of Cache Good ? > > Any suggestions of why Cursor freezes up. Usually when I am viewing > graphics > files or about to save them. Always happens when using SMand > Paint.net and > GraphicsWorkShop Pro (Alchemy Mindworks). Usually Windows Explorer on, too. > > DoctorBill > Caching Web pages was useful when the Internet and Web servers were slow. Pages could be fetched from your local cashe much more quickly than downloaded from the Internet. Now the Internet and servers are fast. On top of that, many sites use PHP or other such tools to generate their Web pages on the fly, making the cache useless. I set my cache size to 0. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config can I delete some entries
On 2/16/2021 9:59 AM, Ray Davison wrote: > Danny Kile wrote: >> About:config can I delete some entries? > > > The preferred way to make a new entry is to create a USER.JS file. That > way you can add anything you want without any fear of damage to PREFS.JS. > > Ray > Also, you can add comments to user.js. A comment is a line that begins with //. I do this to remind me why I made an entry. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config can I delete some entries
On 2/15/2021 11:49 PM, Daniel wrote: > David E. Ross wrote on 16/2/21 6:28 am: >> On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote: >>> David E. Ross wrote: >>>> On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote: >>>>> About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a >>>>> new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some >>>>> old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There >>>>> where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are >>>>> like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false", >>>>> and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete >>>>> them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can >>>>> modify, copy, or create new but no delete. >>>>> >>>>> Thank all for you input on this, >>>>> >>>>> Danny >>>> >>>> One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset. You will not >>>> see the entry disappear when you use that option. In many cases, >>>> however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time. >>>> >>> A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js. >>> Do this when SeaMonkey is closed. >>> Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit. >>> Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word. >>> If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy. >>> >> >> With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a >> software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities >> within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g., >> prefs.js). Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might >> bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed >> capabilities. >> > Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two > different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in the > program, one outside the program. > > Am I wrong?? > You SEE the same information. With about:config, however, the software limits you to screwing up only one entry at a time, limited to a small set of actions. Editing prefs.js allows you to screw up a whole bunch of entries all at once, limited only by the capabilities of the text editor you are using. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config can I delete some entries
On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote: >>> About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a >>> new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some >>> old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There >>> where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are >>> like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false", >>> and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete >>> them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can >>> modify, copy, or create new but no delete. >>> >>> Thank all for you input on this, >>> >>> Danny >> >> One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset. You will not >> see the entry disappear when you use that option. In many cases, >> however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey. >> >> Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time. >> > A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js. > Do this when SeaMonkey is closed. > Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit. > Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word. > If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy. > With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g., prefs.js). Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed capabilities. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config can I delete some entries
On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote: > About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a > new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some > old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There > where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are > like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false", > and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete > them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can > modify, copy, or create new but no delete. > > Thank all for you input on this, > > Danny One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset. You will not see the entry disappear when you use that option. In many cases, however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey. Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting back to 2.49.5, but for how long ?
On 2/4/2021 10:52 AM, Rubens wrote: > > Today I upgraded to 2.53.6. > > But half of my dear extensions used for years stopped working. > > Some of them have new WebEx-compatible updates though. > > Does anybody know which future Seamonkey version is planned to support WebEx ? > Would it be possible to get a list showing what Webextensions and newly internal SeaMonkey features are available that are equivalent to the old xul extensions? I am still with SeaMonkey 2.49.5 because I have some 28 extensions that I either really like or else truly depend upon. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to correctly unsubscribe a newsgroup
On 1/31/2021 3:05 PM, Sjouke Burry wrote: > On 31.01.21 23:55, Ray_Net wrote: >> Hello, >> >> After right-click on a newsgroup we can then click on unsubscribe ... >> and the newsgroup disappeared. >> >> However in the profile under the News\\ directory the 2 >> corresponding files .dat and .msf of the unsubscribed group are still >> present. >> Could we delete them ? >> >> Is that a safe action ? Or it could be more complicate to clean correctly ? >> > Unless you delete them, they will stay around forever. > just delete them. > DO NOT delete the .msf file for any newsgroup server. Only delete the .msf file for the deleted newsgroup. It appears that the .msf file for the server contains flags for how to display Thunderbird's thread and message panes for that account. Also, open file .rc for the SERVER in a plain-text editor (e.g., Notepad, Wordpad, but not Word). If there is an entry for the deleted newsgrup, remove that entry. If Thunderbird is working correctly, however, that entry should have been automatically removed when you deleted the newsgroup. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't clear offline storage, 2.53.6
On 1/31/2021 6:30 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: > Hi, > > In my profile is a directory called 'storage', which then has three > sub-dirs called 'default', 'permanent', 'temporary'. These dirs are full > of junk like sqlite databases. > > What is the proper way to clear all this 'storage' so that it doesn't > keep coming back? > > Trying to do it from "Edit : Preferences" doesn't seem to work at all. > Windows 7 SeaMonkey 2.49.5 I do not think you can prevent the use of "storage". However, I located the folders in my profiles and created a script to delete the contents of the subfolders and then delete the subfolders themselves. I run that script before doing system backups. Yes, I could merely block my backup routine from including "storage"; but by deleting the data, I recover disc space. Since you are using Linux and I am using Windows, I cannot suggest how to create the script for your system. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Preference Variable print.printer_[xxx].print_paper_size_unit Meaning?
What is the meaning of the preferences variables print.printer_[xxx].print_paper_size_unit where [xxx] is the name of a printer? I have the following, all having the "user set" value of 0: print.printer_Fax.print_paper_size_unit print.printer_HP_LaserJet_200_color_M251_PCL_6.print_paper_size_unit print.printer_doPDF_10.print_paper_size_unit -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey
On 1/22/2021 5:00 PM, no...@nonospam.org wrote: > https://www.jewelosco.com > > This is the site for a major grocery store and pharmacy chain. It locks > up SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1 on a fully updated Windows 10 Pro system. Try to > do anything and it shows "Not Responding". > > It is necessary to use Task Manager to kill the process to get out of > it. Task Manager shows it is using a huge amount of memory (Over 1GB) > while trying to load the site. I have never seen a site that is so > totally incompatible with SeaMonkey, and this is a large corporation > which makes it particularly egregious. > > This is critical because the site will be allowing customers to sign up > for Covid-19 vaccinations at local pharmacies within a few days. > > This is not a recent problem. I have been using Firefox as an > alternative. But now I get an email with a link to a location on this > site for vaccine signup and I can't use it. > > Jewel-Osco is part of the Safeway/Albertsons chain, and the email link > actually points to a location on their site, which seems to be > interconnected and has the same problem. > > Here is that link: > https://click.email.safeway.com/?qs=e10b65d13a9b9d398e6144d2fe0737fc3111c383162265cda4969e284a29d815e7cfc1fcbc31cbbd7840ba3d1d758647eef30b7ce6211e885d5469b7c597d375 > > I know SeaMonkey v2.53.6 was just released, but I'm not ready to try it > just yet. > > I have been using SeaMonkey for years but I'm running out of patience > with it. > > John > You might try contacting their corporate headquarters. Do it as a letter via the Postal Service, not via E-mail. Send it to the CEO. Point out that limiting what browsers can be used will also limit their customer base. A WhoIs quesry on the domain jewelosco.com revealed two addresses: Registrant Name: Safeway Inc Registrant Organization: Safeway Inc Registrant Street: 31ST ST COR 2ND AVE Registrant City: TAGUIG CITY Registrant State/Province: CA Registrant Postal Code: 1634 Registrant Country: PH (Philippines??) Admin Organization: Safeway Inc Admin Street: 11555 DUBLIN CANYON RD Admin City: Pleasanton Admin State/Province: CA Admin Postal Code: 94588-2815 Admin Country: US (California in the United States) You might try Yahoo's <http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup> to get the name and address of the CEO of Albertson's, which seems to own Safeway which, in turn, seems to own Jewel. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible Flash issue on Mac?
On 1/12/2021 12:19 PM, Mollie Hurlburt wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to access Flashpoint through SeaMonkey and it used to work fine, > but now it isn't. I get to the point of entering SeaMonkey but it won't use > Flash - I end up with a blank screen except for the Flash "F" inside a box > next to an information "i". When I click it, another tab opens saying, > "Secure Connection Failed. The document contains no data. The page you are > trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data > could not be verified." I've tried it with multiple links, all are still > active on their original sites. Nothing, though. > > I have macOS Big Sur 11.1 and SeaMonkey 2.53.5.1 - which I've un/reinstalled > multiple times now, along with Flashpoint itself. I've also double checked > everything I know could be an issue. My security and permissions are fine for > allowing everything, all extensions on SeaMonkey were disabled, I've tried > Safe Mode and normal, cleared cookies/cache, etc. I have no idea what it > could be. > > I tried going to Tools --> Web Development --> Error Console, and received > these three errors, but I don't know what to do with them from here. > > Error: TypeError: browser[name] is undefined > Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/gDevTools.jsm > Line: 158 > > Error: TypeError: menu is null > Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/browser-menus.js > Line: 223 > > Error: NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND: > Source File: > jar:file:///Users/molli/Downloads/Flashpoint%20Infinity%20for%20Mac%20Beta/FPSoftware/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/Resources/omni.ja!/components/devtools-startup.js > Line: 273 > > > Any advice? > Thanks! > Quite some years ago (at least 7 years ago), I installed the FlashBlock extension in my SeaMonkey. I set the default to enable FlashBlock. After Adobe announced the demise of Flash, I paid attention to whether or not I disabled the extension. The last Web site using Flash that I visited was the BBC news site, for which I had to disable FlashBlock. Sometime in the second half of 2020, however, I was able to view BBC videos by enabling HTML5 Media (normally disabled in my configuration) without disabling FlashBlock. Thereafter, I did not need to disable FlashBlock, which means I did not need Flash. I removed Flash from my configuration on that horrible day: 6 January 2021. I then found many instances of Windows registry entries for Flash that did not get removed. I manually removed many of them, but I left several because I was not sure if they were indeed merely for Flash. A week later, I do not miss Flash. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible Flash issue on Mac?
On 1/12/2021 12:19 PM, Mollie Hurlburt wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to access Flashpoint through SeaMonkey and it used to work fine, > but now it isn't. I get to the point of entering SeaMonkey but it won't use > Flash - I end up with a blank screen except for the Flash "F" inside a box > next to an information "i". When I click it, another tab opens saying, > "Secure Connection Failed. The document contains no data. The page you are > trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data > could not be verified." I've tried it with multiple links, all are still > active on their original sites. Nothing, though. > > I have macOS Big Sur 11.1 and SeaMonkey 2.53.5.1 - which I've un/reinstalled > multiple times now, along with Flashpoint itself. I've also double checked > everything I know could be an issue. My security and permissions are fine for > allowing everything, all extensions on SeaMonkey were disabled, I've tried > Safe Mode and normal, cleared cookies/cache, etc. I have no idea what it > could be. > > I tried going to Tools --> Web Development --> Error Console, and received > these three errors, but I don't know what to do with them from here. > > Error: TypeError: browser[name] is undefined > Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/gDevTools.jsm > Line: 158 > > Error: TypeError: menu is null > Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/browser-menus.js > Line: 223 > > Error: NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND: > Source File: > jar:file:///Users/molli/Downloads/Flashpoint%20Infinity%20for%20Mac%20Beta/FPSoftware/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/Resources/omni.ja!/components/devtools-startup.js > Line: 273 > > > Any advice? > Thanks! > Flash is no longer functional. Adobe announced last year that Flash would no longer be maintained or distributed after the end of 2020. Furthermore, the lastest versions of Flash apparently contain code that blocks it from working after 11 January 2021 (yesterday). You should instead be using HTML5 Media. If that is enabled but the Web site still asks for Flash, you should notify the site's owner that Flash is borked, dead, obsolete, etc. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites you may not be able to access
On 1/11/2021 6:08 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > On 1/11/2021 4:26 AM, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 1/11/2021 12:44 AM, Daniel wrote: >>> David E. Ross wrote on 11/01/21 09:14: >>>> On 1/10/2021 12:08 PM, Ray Davison wrote: >>>>> I get a news letter from a doctor. Twitter banned him because he >>>>> described his experience treating people with CCP virus. He moved to >>>>> Parler and took 28K followers with him. >>>>> >>>>> Now Twitter has banned Trump. Trump moved to Parler. >>>>> >>>>> Parler used Amazon servers. Amazon has banned Parler. >>>>> >>>>> Free speech anyone? >>>>> >>>>> Ray >>>> >>>> The right of free speech in the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution >>>> only applies to government action, not to the actions of businesses and >>>> individuals. >>>> >>> I would have thought "free speech" would also give the provider the >>> freedom *NOT* to reply to or even to carry an article! >> >> Given today's broad definition of "press", that falls under freedom of >> the press. "Press" now seems to include not only print media but also >> electronic media. >> > No it does not. The 1st and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution > *only* apply to Government action. The 1st applies to Federal Government > action, the 14th applies to state action. > > Regards > Keith N. McKenna > I was replying to the comment that "free speech" gave newspapers and electronic platforms the right to carry or refuse to carry an article. That is not "free speech"; that is "freedom of the press". Yes, Amendment 1 prevents the federal government from infringing on both free speech and freedom of the press, which was extended to the states by Amendment 14. Someone once said the freedom of the press belongs to he who owns the printing press. It has long been the answer to anyone who objects when a newspaper refuses to publish his or her letter to the editor. Extend that to electronic platforms, and that becomes the answer to anyone who objects to being censored by Facebook, Twitter, or any other electronic medium. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites you may not be able to access
On 1/11/2021 12:44 AM, Daniel wrote: > David E. Ross wrote on 11/01/21 09:14: >> On 1/10/2021 12:08 PM, Ray Davison wrote: >>> I get a news letter from a doctor. Twitter banned him because he >>> described his experience treating people with CCP virus. He moved to >>> Parler and took 28K followers with him. >>> >>> Now Twitter has banned Trump. Trump moved to Parler. >>> >>> Parler used Amazon servers. Amazon has banned Parler. >>> >>> Free speech anyone? >>> >>> Ray >> >> The right of free speech in the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution >> only applies to government action, not to the actions of businesses and >> individuals. >> > I would have thought "free speech" would also give the provider the > freedom *NOT* to reply to or even to carry an article! Given today's broad definition of "press", that falls under freedom of the press. "Press" now seems to include not only print media but also electronic media. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Redirect Loop with https://www.tennessean.com;s stories.
On 1/10/2021 5:39 PM, Ant wrote: > https://www.tennessean.com's stories (e.g., > https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2020/12/29/at-t-outage-after-nashville-explosion-caused-challenges-retailers/4067046001/) > > shows: > > "Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Unable to load the requested > page. This may be caused by cookies that are blocked. > > The browser has stopped trying to retrieve the requested item. The site > is redirecting the request in a way that will never complete. > > Have you disabled or blocked cookies required by this site? > NOTE: If accepting the site’s cookies does not resolve the problem, > it is likely a server configuration issue and not your computer." > > > I tried in my a new SM v2.53.5.1 profile too in my over decade old, > updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. Is anyone else seeing this too? No > problems in Firefox v84.0.2 web browser though. > > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) > Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5 No spoofing JavaScript enabled Cookies allowed only from the requested domain No problem viewing a news article at that site. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites you may not be able to access
On 1/10/2021 2:27 PM, Ray Davison wrote: > WaltS48 wrote: >> >> Twitter, Amazon, Google and others are not the government. >> >> I can ban you from my platform if I choose, or filter your posts to trash. >> >> I think that discussion is in mozilla.general. >> > Please read the subject again. It has nothing to do with "can ban". > There are people trying to reach these sites and do not know why they > cannot. They don't know why they cannot communicate like they have been > able to. It is not like they got a memo "take your business elsewhere". > > And Apple and Google have banned the Parler phone apps. > > OK I did include a free speech note, but even the ACLU has come down > against this case. > > Ray > What is "this case"? In what way did the ACLU address "this case"? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sites you may not be able to access
On 1/10/2021 12:08 PM, Ray Davison wrote: > I get a news letter from a doctor. Twitter banned him because he > described his experience treating people with CCP virus. He moved to > Parler and took 28K followers with him. > > Now Twitter has banned Trump. Trump moved to Parler. > > Parler used Amazon servers. Amazon has banned Parler. > > Free speech anyone? > > Ray > The right of free speech in the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution only applies to government action, not to the actions of businesses and individuals. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser: Save and Close
On 1/10/2021 10:42 AM, Ray Davison wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: > >>>> >>>> If you have multiple tabs open, the number of tabs that can be restored >>>> concurrently is controlled by the preference variable >>>>browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs >>>> which has the default value of 3. >>> -1 >>>> > >> For me, saving occurs as controlled by browser.sessionstore.interval >> while SeaMokey is still active. I seem not to have a "Save and Close" >> capability. >> > What does the -1 do? > > You get "Save and close" from Edit > Prefs > tabbed browsing > warn me > when closing a window with multiple tabs. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/wjp9mZg16fW7iw5r8 > > Ray For the preference variable browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs, the following values apply: 0: For each WINDOW, only restore the open, selected tab. a positive number: Restore that number of tabs concurrently. any negative number: Restore all tabs concurrently. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. The only reason we have so many laws is that not enough people will do the right thing. (© 1997 by David Ross) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: downloaded 2.49.5 for XP
On 1/8/2021 3:46 AM, Mike wrote: > Using WinXP on one of my many rigs and read that one of the best browsers > left was 2.49.3 - but after I used the posted link to the download saw some > stuff I didn't quite understand and looked for any "newer" versions that > worked on WinXP and that led me to the 2.49.5 page. > Did the install but weird stuff is showing but since I can't read it I can > only guess to what functions they mean - but otherwise it's seems to work. > How do I get rid of the computer-like language fonts used so it reads english > completely? > > Attached is a jpeg of what I am seeing. > Tried looking for info on your site, struck out. Will try googling also. > > TY Mike Gracher. > My wife's PC has Windows XP SP3 and SeaMonkey 2.49.5. She has no problems. Also, these newsgroups do not allow attachments to posted messages. Thus, we do not see your JPEG image. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I just do not understand why so many people think a sore loser makes a great President. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser: Save and Close
On 1/8/2021 6:35 PM, Ray Davison wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: > >> >> Browser sessions are saved according to the preference variable >> browser.sessionstore.interval >> which has the default value of 15000. The units are milliseconds; thus >> the default is 15 seconds. > > 1500 >> >> If you have multiple tabs open, the number of tabs that can be restored >> concurrently is controlled by the preference variable >> browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs >> which has the default value of 3. > -1 >> >> However, the maximum number of tabs that can be restored is controlled >> by the preference variable >> browser.sessionstore.max_tabs_undo >> which has the default value of 10. > 10 >> >> You might want to examine those three preference variables via >> about:config >> You might be terminating when you opened tabs later than the most recent >> save. >> >> Also look at preference variables >> browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash > true >> and >> browser.sessionstore.resume_session_once >> If the first has the value "false" (not the default "true"), restoring >> after a crash is blocked. If the second has the value "true" (not the >> default "false"), the first restore of a session prevents later restores >> of the same session. > false >> > Everything is default except that -1. > > Does upper right corner "Close" > "Save and close", save anything when > clicked, or does it only save what some background process has already > saved. > > At the next app run, it saved all or nothing. > > Ray Windows 7 SeaMonkey 2.49.5 For me, saving occurs as controlled by browser.sessionstore.interval while SeaMokey is still active. I seem not to have a "Save and Close" capability. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I just do not understand why so many people think a sore loser makes a great President. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser: Save and Close
On 1/7/2021 3:36 PM, Ray Davison wrote: > WaltS48 wrote: > >> >> Yes, it is "Save and Close" on Windows when I have multiple tabs open in >> the browser window. > > Yes, TY, we know what it is supposed to do. And we are back to my > original plost. Now why does it only save sometimes? > > Ray Browser sessions are saved according to the preference variable browser.sessionstore.interval which has the default value of 15000. The units are milliseconds; thus the default is 15 seconds. If you have multiple tabs open, the number of tabs that can be restored concurrently is controlled by the preference variable browser.sessionstore.max_concurrent_tabs which has the default value of 3. However, the maximum number of tabs that can be restored is controlled by the preference variable browser.sessionstore.max_tabs_undo which has the default value of 10. You might want to examine those three preference variables via about:config You might be terminating when you opened tabs later than the most recent save. Also look at preference variables browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash and browser.sessionstore.resume_session_once If the first has the value "false" (not the default "true"), restoring after a crash is blocked. If the second has the value "true" (not the default "false"), the first restore of a session prevents later restores of the same session. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I just do not understand why so many people think a sore loser makes a great President. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: converse.js xmpp browser client doesno longer Work in SeaMonkey
On 1/7/2021 9:59 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > Hi, > > https://conversejs.org/fullscreen.html > no longer works for my > installed unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 2.53.6 beta 1 pre > Mozilla/5.0 (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 > Build 20201115220004 (Normal User Profile and also with newly created > User Profile, Default Classic Theme) on German WIN7 64bit > > Only shows blue (or so) empty screen instead of white screen with login > dialog. > > Error console shows: > > Zeitstempel: 07.01.2021, 18:42:58 > Fehler: XML-Verarbeitungsfehler: Syntax-Fehler > Adresse: https://conversejs.org/fullscreen.html > Zeile Nr. 1, Spalte 1: > Quelldatei: https://conversejs.org/fullscreen.html > Zeile: 1, Spalte: 1 > Quelltext: > invalid > > > Zeitstempel: 07.01.2021, 18:42:58 > Fehler: ReferenceError: customElements is not defined > Quelldatei: https://conversejs.org/dist/converse.min.js > Zeile: 456 > > I can't tell whether related or not. > > Of course I tried FF compatibity, older versions, ... > So seems not to be a SM regression, but incompatibility with SM and > latest Page versions. Page worksfine with EDGE and Trox and probably > most other browsers. > > Similar problems with > > Any Ideas how to get that working again? > > CU > > Rainer > I had a similar problem with the Web site of Unify Financial Credit Union, only the screen was pale lavender. They told me I should switch my browser to Chrome. Instead, I am switching credit unions. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I just do not understand why so many people think a sore loser makes a great President. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What does "Clear private data" do ?
On 12/29/2020 7:17 AM, DoctorBill wrote: > . > . > OK..."Clear private data" in the TOOLS menu - clears your private data. > Had to say that for the wise guys who I know will come back with that > > Now - What specifically does that clear (ctrl-shft-del) do ? > > Is it dangerous to do - can I lose important stuff, change my setup by > using it. > > I have Pref-Bar and do the Clear location - cache - history - DL - cookies > buttons. Does "Clear private data" do MORE than that ? > > I do that in the event some intruder gets on my Compuker when I leave > the house > and he/she tries to get to my online banking or Tax files w/o passwords, > etc. > I know that anyone with much compuker knowledge knows how to get there, > but what I do may stop your average break-in clodhopper. > > Paranoid, huh ? > > DoctorBill > Open your Preferences window [Edit > Preferences]. Select [Privacy & Security > Private Data]. That is where you select what you mean by private data. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I just do not understand why so many people think a sore loser makes a great President. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Active Tab Stopped being Indicated
On 12/29/2020 5:37 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> When I have multiple TABS working in My SeaMonkey, it would
> indicated which tab was active on screen with a colored tag in one
> corner of the Tab.
>
> For some reason, it stopped doing that.
>
> Can someone tell me how to get that feature back ?
>
> DoctorBill
>
My active tab is dark blue with white text. If I hover my cursor on
that tab, it turns light blue with black text. Note, however, this is
in SeaMonkey 2.49.5.
In each of my profiles, the file \chrome\userChrome.css contains the
following:
/* Font size on tabs */
.tabbrowser-tab
{ font-size: 105% !important }
/* Highlight active tab */
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > .tab-close-button
{ background-color: #7799FF !important;
color: #ff !important }
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"]:hover > hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"]:hover > .tab-close-button
{ background-color: #CCDDFF !important;
color: #00 !important }
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>
I just do not understand why so many people think
a sore loser makes a great President.
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Re: Change in password retention in MailNews?
On 11/21/2020 11:23 AM, NFN Smith wrote: > This one may be a little bit of a personal quirk, but my handling of > email going to my work account and primary personal account is done > where I let the Seamonkey password manager remember my password for SMTP > and LDAP access, but where I don't allow it to remember for POP access. > To me, because I have complex passwords, it's useful to have to enter > those regularly, as a way of ensuring that I never forget them -- and > there are occasions where it is useful to know that I have them > memorized, without having to rely on my external password manager. > > I'm used to the idea that a password needs to be entered once per > session, and since I have Seamonkey open all day, entering those > passwords once per day is an acceptable intrusion, if I don't have need > to restart Seamonkey. > > However, I'm seeing that after a few hours open, Seamonkey seems to be > forgetting the entered passwords, and where I have to manually re-enter > to check for new mail. I just upgraded to 2.53.5.1 it's still > happening. I haven't watched closely, but this seems to have started > happening since 2.53.4. Is there some change to Seamonkey that would > cause the difference in handling? > > I checked my server settings, and I have one set to check for new > messages every 15 minutes and the other every 30 minutes. I've > experimented with lowering both to 5 minute intervals, and I'm still > seeing the same effect. I'm not sure how frequently I have to re-enter > passwords, but over the course of about 9 hours, I have to re-enter at > least twice. > > Should I just accept things, and let Seamonkey remember my POP passwords? > > Smith > I was having a similar problem but with Thunderbird. It turned out that the problem was NOT in Thunderbird but in the authentication software in the ISP's mail server. Have you tried contacting your ISP about this? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I just do not understand why so many people think a sore looser makes a great President. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Root Certificate Database
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5 Thunderbird 52.9.1 Because a number of extensions that I frequently use in SeaMonkey are not compatible with SeaMonkey versions beyond 2.49.5 and there are no substitutes, I do not plan to update beyond SeaMonkey 2.49.5. For the same reason, I am remaining with Thunderbird 52.9.1. Is there a file with the current Mozilla-approved root certificate database that I can download to replace the files I have for SeaMonkey and Thunderbird? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I just do not understand why so many people think a sore looser makes a great President. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM
On 12/1/2020 2:53 PM, Ray_Net wrote: > Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 01-12-20 11:55: >> On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote: >>> ...> >>> ... >>> This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx >>> where I did not see the button. >>> Therefore I still be unable to connect. >> >> If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask >> them to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims >> Gecko 60 but this is not entirely true. >> > The bank compagny says: Abandon SM ans use Chrome or Firefox they > don't consider SM as a supported browser > As I replied earlier, that is what the credit union where I have had an account for 50+ years said. Instead, I am partway through the process of abandoning the credit union. In the meantime, I have accounts at another credit union (about 40 years), a commercial bank (over a decade), and a major mutual fund group (25 years). I can still do transactions in those accounts using SeaMonkey 2.49.5 under Windows 7. Today, I mailed letters to each of those three, alerting them to the need to be backwards compatible as they update their servers so that depositors and investors can continue to use their legacy systems. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> With less than 5% of the world's population, the United States has had more than 18% of the world's deaths from COVID-19. Thank you President Trump. You are FIRED!! Good-bye and good riddance. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM
On 11/25/2020 9:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote: > Hello, > > Going to: > https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx > > shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to > be connected to my bank. > > This is true with Chrome and Firefox. > > With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing. > Change banks. I am in the process of closing my accounts at a credit union where I have been a member (customer) for over 50 years. I am moving to another credit union. The issue is that commerical Web sites often have their server software updated. What they fail to do is remain compatible with legacy systems used by theit customers. That indicates a lack of concern for those whose transactions provide the profits that keep their businesses operating. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> With less than 5% of the world's population, the United States has had more than 18% of the world's deaths from COVID-19. Thank you President Trump. You are FIRED!! Good-bye and good riddance. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can I stop all the "Flipping & Flopping" on FoxNews ?
On 11/14/2020 4:18 PM, Frosted Flake wrote: > Paul in Houston, TX wrote: >> DoctorBill wrote: >>> I used to visit "FoxNews" web site, but it is so filled with THIS & THAT >>> loading and the screen never settles down due to krap loading >>> constantly ! >>> >>> Is there some way to stop that ? Ad Blocking just causes more "Please >>> Turn Off Ad Blocker" prompts. A good web site is now TRASHED UP with >>> so many ads, it is worthless ! Everything else is trash. >>> >>> DoctorBill >> >> Turn off JS on Fox News. >> I never see any ads or videos or any sort of pop ups. >> > Details of how to do so? JS = JavaScript (which is NOT Java) See my 12 November reply in this thread. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> With only 4.2% of the world's population, the United States has had 18.7% of the world's deaths from COVID-19. Thank you President Trump. You are FIRED!! Good-bye and good riddance. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can I stop all the "Flipping & Flopping" on FoxNews ?
On 11/12/2020 4:46 PM, DoctorBill wrote: > I used to visit "FoxNews" web site, but it is so filled with THIS & THAT > loading and the screen never settles down due to krap loading constantly ! > > Is there some way to stop that ? Ad Blocking just causes more "Please > Turn Off Ad Blocker" prompts. A good web site is now TRASHED UP with > so many ads, it is worthless ! Everything else is trash. > > DoctorBill > Try disabling JavaScript (which is NOT Java). I have PrefBar 7.1.1 installed with SeaMonkey 2.49.5. PrefBar has two JavaScript controls. One is plain "javaScript", which globally enables or disables JavaScript; this one should be setup when you install PrefBar. The other is "prefbartabjavascript", which enables or disables JavaScript only for the current tab; this one needs to be moved from Available to Enabled if you Customize PrefBar. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> With only 4.2% of the world's population, the United States has had 18.8% of the world's deaths from COVID-19. Thank you President Trump. You are FIRED!! Good-bye and good riddance. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Site for current User Agent Strings
On 11/6/2020 10:35 AM, JAS wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> On 11/6/2020 7:15 AM, JAS wrote: >>> Does anyone have a list of or a web site that has the current list of >>> Browsers and their UA Strings that can be used in Seamonkey Pref Bar >>> User Agent button? >>> >>> Thanks,JAS >>> >> >> Try the following: >> <https://techblog.willshouse.com/2012/01/03/most-common-user-agents> >> <http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php> >> >> However, I do it differently. I have a personal (non-commercial) Web >> site. The ISP that hosts my site maintains a log of site visits with a >> separate log file for each month. A few times each year, I download the >> latest log and pick out UA strings that reflect newer versions of the >> browsers in my PrefBar setup. >> > Thanks for the links, would you share the currents files you use in the > PrefBar? > SeaMonkey/2.49.5 PrefBar 7.1.1 I exported my useragent extlist and uploaded it to my Web site. It is at <http://www.rossde.com/test/spoof_UAstring.btn>. Please let me know when you download it so that I can then delete it from my Web site. After you download it, you can then import it into PrefBar AFTER you delete the existing useragent from PrefBar. Otherwise, you can view the contents with Notepad or Wordpad and pick out the UA strings. NOTE WELL: The spoof_UAstring.btn file is compatible with the configuration indicated at the beginning of this reply and likely with earlier -- but not later -- versions of SeaMonkey and PrefBar. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> With only 4.2% of the world's population, the United States has had 19.3% of the world's deaths from COVID-19. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Site for current User Agent Strings
On 11/6/2020 7:15 AM, JAS wrote: > Does anyone have a list of or a web site that has the current list of > Browsers and their UA Strings that can be used in Seamonkey Pref Bar > User Agent button? > > Thanks,JAS > Try the following: <https://techblog.willshouse.com/2012/01/03/most-common-user-agents> <http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php> However, I do it differently. I have a personal (non-commercial) Web site. The ISP that hosts my site maintains a log of site visits with a separate log file for each month. A few times each year, I download the latest log and pick out UA strings that reflect newer versions of the browsers in my PrefBar setup. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> With only 4.2% of the world's population, the United States has had 19.3% of the world's deaths from COVID-19. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: book marks
On 11/2/2020 5:00 AM, jensd6...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > I cant anymore add or delete book marks (favorites). Also there are no any > records in the chronic. > I tried everything (new installation and so on), but no change. > I need help so solve it. > Thank you in advance. > Jens > What is "chronic"? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> With only 4.2% of the world's population, the United States has had 19.3% of the world's deaths from COVID-19. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: That old bug-bear .... User Agent sniffing, I think
On 10/27/2020 5:30 AM, Daniel wrote:
> I've received a letter from one of my Superannuation companies telling
> me they have lost me postal address (so how were they able to send me a
> letter?? The idiots!!) so I went to their website but was unable to log
> in because they didn't accept my SM 2.49.5, so I've set up a User Agent
> override, I hope, telling them I'm using FF/78. but that failed as well,
> so I'm asking is
>
> general.useragent.complesOverride.ioof.com.au,userset,string,Firefox/78.0
>
> correctly formatted?? If the company is IOOF, might capitalising the
> ioof help/be necessary??
>
> Any suggestions, please!
>
1. Locate your profile. On the menu bar, select [Help >
Troubleshooting Information]. Under Application Basics, select the Open
Folder button to the right of Profile Folder.
2. In the profile, locate the file user.js. If it does not exist,
create it with Wordpad or Notepad but NOT Word.
3. Using Wordpad or Notepad in user.js, create the following entry all
on a single line:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.ioof.com.au", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:79.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/79.0");
Note that the semi-colon (;) at the end is required. If the entry wraps
when you enter it, that is okay; but do not manuall break the entry by
using the Enter or Return key on your keyboard. Save user.js.
4. The change to user.js becomes effective only when SeaMonkey is
initialized. Terminate all instances of SeaMonkey. Relaunch SeaMonkey.
The alternative is to request about:config and then create the preference
general.useragent.override.ioof.com.au
and give it the value
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:79.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/79.0
again, all on a single line.
I prefer using user.js because it provides me with a record of the
changes I have made. You can add a comment there if it begins with two
virgules (//) to remind you of why you did this. You cannot add
comments at about:config or in prefs.js.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>
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Re: Chase now blocking SeaMonkey 2.53.4 with default UA
On 10/20/2020 4:18 PM, David H. Durgee wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> On 10/19/2020 9:51 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: >>> This morning for the first time Chase Bank refused to allow me to access >>> their web site. My bookmarked login screen routed me to a security page >>> indicated that I needed Firefox 68 or higher for their site. >>> >>> I will go ahead and spoof that shortly, as I suspect the page will still >>> work, but this is the first time I have outright been denied access to >>> their site with a current default UA. >>> >>> Dave >>> >> Do you really need to bank at a giant like Chase? >> >> I have had an account at Unify Financial Credit Union (UFCU) or one of >> its ancestors for over 50 years. UFCU is one of the largest credit >> unions in the U.S.; but my account was originally opened at a much >> smaller credit union that merged into Western Federal Credit Union, >> which eventually became UFCU. UFCU has been my primary banking >> institution even though credit unions are not really banks. On >> 1 October, I paid bills online through UFCU. On 2 October, I received >> E-mails informing me that my checking and Visa statements were >> available. I downloaded the statements for my files and reconciled my >> checking account. On 8 October, I tried to login to my account. All I >> got was a pale purple screen. After a lengthy phone call, I was >> informed that SeaMonkey was not supported. I am now in the process of >> closing my accounts and moving my primary banking activity to another >> credit union where I have had an account for over 30 years. >> >> Yes, I also have an account at a real bank. It is a relatively small, >> regional bank with almost all branches in southern California (plus 3 in >> the Central Valley of California and 1 in Colorado). I have that >> account in order to have a safe deposit box (not generally available >> through a credit union) and to get images of all my cancelled checks -- >> fronts and backs -- with each monthly statement for those situations >> where I might later need proof of payment. (Credit unions are >> forbidden by law from returning cancelled checks.) >> > > Sorry to hear you are having similar problems. I can tell you that in > the case of Chase the problem can be worked around by spoofing FireFox > 68 for your browser. This may change in the future, but for now it is > workable. Perhaps a similar spoof will allow you to continue with your > credit union. I tried spoofing Firefox 79.0, Chrome 86.0.4240.75, and Edge 18.18363. None of those worked. In closing the account at UFCU, I will pull out approximately 2/3 of our annual living expenses. I have already started to do that. That might not mean much to UFCU, but it is a large sum to me. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chase now blocking SeaMonkey 2.53.4 with default UA
On 10/19/2020 9:51 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: > This morning for the first time Chase Bank refused to allow me to access > their web site. My bookmarked login screen routed me to a security page > indicated that I needed Firefox 68 or higher for their site. > > I will go ahead and spoof that shortly, as I suspect the page will still > work, but this is the first time I have outright been denied access to > their site with a current default UA. > > Dave > Do you really need to bank at a giant like Chase? I have had an account at Unify Financial Credit Union (UFCU) or one of its ancestors for over 50 years. UFCU is one of the largest credit unions in the U.S.; but my account was originally opened at a much smaller credit union that merged into Western Federal Credit Union, which eventually became UFCU. UFCU has been my primary banking institution even though credit unions are not really banks. On 1 October, I paid bills online through UFCU. On 2 October, I received E-mails informing me that my checking and Visa statements were available. I downloaded the statements for my files and reconciled my checking account. On 8 October, I tried to login to my account. All I got was a pale purple screen. After a lengthy phone call, I was informed that SeaMonkey was not supported. I am now in the process of closing my accounts and moving my primary banking activity to another credit union where I have had an account for over 30 years. Yes, I also have an account at a real bank. It is a relatively small, regional bank with almost all branches in southern California (plus 3 in the Central Valley of California and 1 in Colorado). I have that account in order to have a safe deposit box (not generally available through a credit union) and to get images of all my cancelled checks -- fronts and backs -- with each monthly statement for those situations where I might later need proof of payment. (Credit unions are forbidden by law from returning cancelled checks.) -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chase now blocking SeaMonkey 2.53.4 with default UA
On 10/19/2020 9:51 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: > This morning for the first time Chase Bank refused to allow me to access > their web site. My bookmarked login screen routed me to a security page > indicated that I needed Firefox 68 or higher for their site. > > I will go ahead and spoof that shortly, as I suspect the page will still > work, but this is the first time I have outright been denied access to > their site with a current default UA. > > Dave > Do you really need to bank at a giant like Chase? I have had an account at Unify Financial Credit Union (UFCU) or one of its ancestors for over 50 years. UFCU is one of the largest credit unions in the U.S., but my account was originally opened at a much smaller credit union that merged into UFCU. UFCU has been my primary banking institution even though credit unions are not really banks. On 1 October, I paid bills online through UFCU. On 2 October, I received E-mails informing me that my checking and Visa statements were available. I downloaded the statements for my files and reconciled my checking account. On 8 October, I tried to login to my account. All I got was a pale purple screen. After a lengthy phone call, I was informed that SeaMonkey was not supported. I am now in the process of closing my accounts and moving my primary banking activity to another credit union where I have had an account for over 30 years. Yes, I also have an account at a real bank. It is a relatively small, regional bank with almost all branches in southern California (plus 3 in the Central Valley of California and 1 in Colorado). I have that account in order to have a safe deposit box (not generally available through a credit union) and to get images of all my cancelled checks -- fronts and backs -- with each monthly statement for those situations where I might later need proof of payment.* (Credit unions are forbidden by law from returning cancelled checks.) My father owned an independent furniture store. He always banked at a small, local bank. He did not need foreign exchange, huge loans, or other large-bank services. Instead, he wanted to be recognized by name when he walked into the bank. If he needed some special service, he wanted to be well acquainted with the manager. At a small bank, all that was reciprocated by the manager appreciating my father's business. * Having images of cancelled checks proved very useful in 2019. The IRS sent me a letter claiming I did not make a payment on my federal income taxes. I called the IRS while holding the bank statement that included the check for the missing payment. After a very brief phone conversation, the issue was resolved. Two weeks later, I received another letter from the IRS informing me that I did not owe anything. Years ago, I had a similar problem with local property taxes, which was similarly resolved. There have been other such situations, never involving payments through a credit union. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how do i backup my profile
On 10/8/2020 5:16 PM, Jim wrote: > I installed SeaMonkey when I bought my PC in 2011. Like others, I am > having problems with SeaMonkey now. I have so many questions, so I'll > ask one at a time. > > I am using version 2.49.4 -- I stopped doing updates, because they > seemed to be getting worse. I see that SM has released version 2.53.4. > The instructions warn: "You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your > profile before trying SeaMonkey 2.53.4." > > How do I do that? I want to keep my emails, bookmarks, and passwords > intact. > > BTW, I'm running Windows 10, 12 GB of RAM, and an I7 CPU. > > Thanx > For 2.49.4: 1. On the menu bar, select [Help > Troubleshooting Information]. 2. On the Troubleshooting Information window, under Application Basics, select the Open Folder button to the right of Profile Folder. 3. Note the name of the folder just below the Windows Explorer title bar. 4. To the left of the name of the folder in Windows Explorer, select the up arrow. 5. Copy the the folder to someplace else on your PC. Repeat the above if you have multiple profiles. I would do this every time I updated SeaMonkey. I have now frozen my SeaMonkey version at 2.49.5; that is, I no longer update. That is because later versions are not compatible with extension I use. There are no equivalent compatible extensions and no inherent capabilities in SeaMonkey that provide the same functionality. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Early in the COVID-19 pandemic, President Trump told us the virus would disappear by April. Later, he said it would be gone when the weather turned hot. In Ventura County (population less than 850,000), there were 2,134 new COVID-19 infections in September as the temperature reached 117F. That month, there were also 36 deaths, a persistent daily death rate through the entire month of 1.2%. At one time, Trump claimed COVID-19 was a Democrat hoax. Now Trump has the virus. Schadenfreude! I don't think COVID-19 will disappear until after Trump disappears. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.4 not loading Bissell website
On 10/7/2020 10:06 AM, flyguy wrote: > SM 2.53.4 won't load https://www.bissell.com/ - the status message is Read > www.bissell.com > > Chrome loads it immediately. What could the problem be? > > Here's another one that won't load, yet works properly in Chrome: > > https://wingsandwheels.com/ > > Instead of the website, "403 Forbidden nginx" is displayed. The website > worked in > SM a couple months ago, but hasn't recently, with either 2.53.4 or 2.49.3 > Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Bissell: Could not load despite spoofing Firefox and Internet Explorer. Wings and Wheels: Got it by spoofing Firefox using PrefBar's useragent extlist. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Early in the COVID-19 pandemic, President Trump told us the virus would disappear by April. Later, he said it would be gone when the weather turned hot. In Ventura County (population less than 850,000), there were 2,134 new COVID-19 infections in September as the temperature reached 117F. That month, there were also 36 deaths, a persistent daily death rate through the entire month of 1.2%. At one time, Trump claimed COVID-19 was a Democrat hoax. Now Trump has the virus. Schadenfreude! I don't think COVID-19 will disappear until after Trump disappears. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Agent Override for Safari?
On 10/1/2020 2:18 PM, Tom Pamin wrote: > Tom Pamin wrote: >> I'm using Facebook Purity. I'm getting this message now. How do I set up >> the user agent override? >> >> "You will need to install a 'User Agent Switcher' extension and set your >> browser's 'User Agent' to 'Safari' (V10), this will trick Facebook into >> thinking you are using Safari, and they will then show you the old FB >> Newsfeed design as they havent got the new design working for that >> browser yet." > > I tried this one but no luck. > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) Gecko/20100101 > Version/10.0 Safari I do not think there is a Safari version for "Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64" or any other Windows version. In PrefBar's extlist useragent, I have Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_4) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/13.1 Safari/605.1.15 I got this from the log of visitors to my Web site. I just checked that log about a week ago. I either found this UA string in the log, or else I could not find a log entry with a Safari version later than 605.1.15 other than for mobile phones. (I do not remember which alternative.) -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Early in the COVID-19 pandemic, President Trump told us the virus would disappear by April. Later, he said it would be gone when the weather turned hot. In Ventura County (population less than 850,000), there were 2,134 new COVID-19 infections in September as the temperature reached 117F. That month, there were also 36 deaths, a persistent daily death rate through the entire month of 1.2%. I don't think COVID-19 will disappear until after Trump disappears. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Access Verizon.com LogIn OR Chase.com SM 2.53.4 W10 Pro
On 9/27/2020 10:53 AM, Samuel S wrote:
> Hello all -
>
> Having issues with verizon.com login stalling and not connecting and
>
> Chase indicating that the browser is no longer supported...
>
>
> They both work like a charm in chrome...
>
> TIA for your input and assistance - bo1953
>
I had a similar problem with a credit union. I could login, but the
result was a blank screen tinted pale purple (lavender?). I called the
credit union's tech support, who told me they do not support SeaMonkey.
I tried spoofing Firefox without any success. However, I had success
logging in with Internet Explorer 11 (IE); so I tried SeaMonkey while
spoofing IE. That too was successful. As a result, I added
user_pref("general.useragent.override.xxx",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/7.0;
rv:11.0) like Gecko ");
(all on one line) to my profile's user.js file. Bingo! It too worked.
(I used the credit union's domain in the actual case. I show "xxx" here
because I do not want to disclose where I bank.)
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<http://www.rossde.com/>
A prayer for the days leading towards the Jewish holy days.
For those who hate, Let there be no hope,
And may all derision and disdain perish in an instant.
May intolerance be swiftly cut down.
May You quickly uproot, crush, cast down, and humble the arrogant,
Speedily in our days.
Blessed are You, Adonai, Who destroys enemies and humbles the arrogant.
Alden Solovy
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Re: My "Task-Bar" disappeared after installing a Mozilla Addon !
On 9/21/2020 8:16 AM, DoctorBill wrote: > WaltS48 wrote: >> On 9/21/20 1:20 AM, DoctorBill wrote: >>> DoctorBill wrote: >>>> I had a Taskbar with various things on it and when I installed a Mozilla >>>> Addon (AutoPlay Toggle), the TaskBar has disappeared ! >>>> >>>> Where are addons controlled ? >>>> >>>> DoctorBill >>> >>> PrefBar - that was the name of it. >>> I finally found it in the ADDons Manager - turned OFF ! >>> When I loaded the Mozilla "AutoOn/OFF" thing, it boogered up what I >>> was using ! >>> WHY ? This sucks quite a lot ! I am trying not to SWEAR here right >>> now ! >>> Why would adding that Auto-on/off go in and change my setup ? MOZILLA ?! >>> >>> DoctorBill >>> >>> >> >> You have PrefBar installed. >> Added the Autoplay Toggle extension from >> <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/autoplay-toggle-nonrestartless/> >> >> >> That broke PrefBar? >> >> > Broke it ? It disabled PrefBar. Why would it do that ? > > I had to go back and re-enable PrefBar - after I came across it by accident. > i.e. - I am NOT an aficionado of all this plugins and extensions > business. I barely understand > all the menus and actions and how to interact with them. Programs do > not "wear out' - > something got in there and boogered Autoplay up. Then Autoplay's > installer boogered up > my PrefBar. What's next ? > > I installed both a long time ago and they were working fine for several > years. > > Then when I re-installed the Autoplay AGAIN (it had stopped working for > some reason), > THAT disabled my PrefBar. > That kind of baloney causes people to distrust the software and the > makers of the software. > Unless you are UP on this stuff on a daily basis, you get lost in the > minutia of it. > > I suppose the cause of this all is ENTROPY having it's way with us. > > DoctorBill > I have discovered a few situations where two different extensions (not plug-ins) were mutually incompatible. These situations are very, very few; but they are extremely annoying because they are often hard to diagnose. The probem arises because an extension's author can easily test against the host application (e.g., SeaMonkey) but cannot know which (of dozens and dozens) other extensions will also be installed. Because of my experience as a software test engineer (30+ years before retiring), I do indeed test and test again until I find which extensions conflict with each other to cause the problem. I then notify the authors of both extensions of the problem, describing the symptoms. If neither author accepts responsibility to fix his or her extension, I must then decide which extension is more important to me than the other. I then delete the less important one. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> A prayer for the days leading towards the Jewish holy days. For those who hate, Let there be no hope, And may all derision and disdain perish in an instant. May intolerance be swiftly cut down. May You quickly uproot, crush, cast down, and humble the arrogant, Speedily in our days. Blessed are You, Adonai, Who destroys enemies and humbles the arrogant. Alden Solovy Heed this, President Trump! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java plugin compatability version 2.53.3
On 9/16/2020 3:10 AM, Yotoleo wrote: > Attempting to use SeaMonkey 2.53.3 to browse to a device that requires > configuration. > When loading the configuration GUI information is failing to be displayed due > to a Java plugin not being enabled. When browsing the add on's tab for the > Java Run Time plugin I can only find the JavaScript debugger plugin which > does not seem to be compatible with 2.53.3. > > Is the plugin under a different name ref? Or do I need to revert to a > previous version of Sea Monkey that is compatible IE version 2.0 - 2.11 which > is indicated as the last supported version? > Java and JavaScript are two distinct entities. The only similarity is in their names, which is a very unfortunate situation. Plugins such as Java are no longer supported in Mozilla-based products. JavaScript, however, is an internal feature of those products. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> A prayer for the days leading towards the Jewish holy days. For those who hate, Let there be no hope, And may all derision and disdain perish in an instant. May intolerance be swiftly cut down. May You quickly uproot, crush, cast down, and humble the arrogant, Speedily in our days. Blessed are You, Adonai, Who destroys enemies and humbles the arrogant. Alden Solovy Heed this, President Trump! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting Default Profile
On 9/10/2020 9:36 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > David E. Ross schrieb: >> Is there a command-line option that I can add to my shortcut that I use >> to launch SeaMonkey that forces my preferred profile to be the default? > > > > Hi, > > did you try <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Shortcut_to_a_specific_profile>? > > CU > > Rainer > I am already doing that. My shortcut always launches SeaMonkey with my preferred profile. However, that does not reset the flag for the DEFAULT profile in profiles.ini if I previously terminated SeaMonkey while in a special-purpose profile. The script I created looks like this: C:\Windows\System32\taskkill.exe /IM seamonkey.exe /T start /B B:\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe exit This causes a termination and restart of SeaMonkey. Since the "start" command does not include SeaMonkey's -p option, this should restart with the default profile, which is not necessarily my preferred profile. However, if I run this script while SeaMonkey is indeed using my preferred profile, I want that profile to also be my default. Per my first paragraph in this reply, that is not always the case. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> A prayer for the days leading towards the Jewish holy days. For those who hate, Let there be no hope, And may all derision and disdain perish in an instant. May intolerance be swiftly cut down. May You quickly uproot, crush, cast down, and humble the arrogant, Speedily in our days. Blessed are You, Adonai, Who destroys enemies and humbles the arrogant. Alden Solovy Heed this, President Trump! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Setting Default Profile
Windows 7 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 I have four SeaMonkey profiles: a preferred profile and three special-purpose profiles. I generally launch SeaMonkey in my preferred profile by selecting a shortcut that uses the command-line option -p followed by the name of the profile. If I use the profile manager to switch profiles, the selected profile is flagged as the default. If I terminate SeaMonkey while in one of my special-purpose profiles, that profile is thus flagged as my default. When I later use my shortcut to launch SeaMonkey, I do get my preferred profile. However, the profile I was using when I last terminated SeaMonkey remains the default. I have a script that terminates SeaMonkey and immediately relaunches it in the same profile. This is in place of the Restart Application Button extension, which fails to reset everything back to my default state. My script causes SeaMonkey to relaunch in the default profile. That is okay except when I earlier terminated SeaMonkey while in a special-purpose profile and then use my script while in my preferred profile; in that case, SeaMonkey launches in the wrong profile. Is there a command-line option that I can add to my shortcut that I use to launch SeaMonkey that forces my preferred profile to be the default? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> A prayer for the days leading towards the Jewish holy days. For those who hate, Let there be no hope, And may all derision and disdain perish in an instant. May intolerance be swiftly cut down. May You quickly uproot, crush, cast down, and humble the arrogant, Speedily in our days. Blessed are You, Adonai, Who destroys enemies and humbles the arrogant. Alden Solovy Heed this, President Trump! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: XING.de flickering, unusable (related to User Profile)
On 9/6/2020 1:14 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > Hi, > > as shown in <https://youtu.be/5FDnKbqhPwg>, I can't use XING any longer > because a selection menu area u comes and goes and comes and goes ... > This flickering makes XING unusable for me, I can't login. > > It's not a general bug, but something with my user Profile. "Safe Mode" > does not heal the problem. Disabling scripts does not help, too. Now I > will have to find out what in my user Profile causes the problem. > > Any Ideas where (in which file?) I should start? > > CU > > Rainer > I see something similar to that in Yahoo news. It seems related to an advertisement that has animation. I know this will not help you because you want the images, but here is what I do. I set my images preference to none, disable AdBlock Plus, clear all Yahoo cookies, and reload the page. After the page starts reloading, I enable AdBlock Plus and disable JavaScript, leaving all images disabled. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What is the correct way to override useragent
On 9/4/2020 9:48 AM, AndrésH wrote: > I have some trouble with the spanish website www.eldiario.es > > > What is the correct way to specify override the useragent? > > Is it general.useragent.override.eldiario.es ? Or > browser.useragent.override.eldiario.es ? > > I tried "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.9) > Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.6 Firefox/68.9 PaleMoon/28.12.0" . What is the > current Firefox useragent ? > > The preference is general.useragent.override.eldiario.es Try using the value Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0 but all on one line. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Slow Scrolling
On 8/31/2020 12:18 PM, Ray_Net wrote: > EE wrote on 30-08-20 20:54: >> Tom Pamin wrote: >>> Very slow to scroll down web pages with SM lately (on more than one >>> PC). Edge works fine. Any ideas? >> >> You could try smooth scrolling. I prefer that because it is less >> jumpy that way. >> > How to smooth scroll ? Is it an SM option/parameter ? > 1. On the menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window, select [Appearance > Content]. 3. Under Scrolling on the Content pane, select the checkbox for "Use smooth scrolling" to insert a checkmark there. 4. Select the OK button. However, I found smooth scrolling to be somewhat annoying. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Folder Sorting Assistance SM 2.53.3 Win 10 Pro
On 8/23/2020 11:28 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 8/23/2020 10:38 AM, Samuel S wrote: >> David E. Ross wrote: >>> On 8/23/2020 8:22 AM, Samuel S wrote: >>>> Hello all - can anyone advise how I can sort folders? >>>> >>>> The Add On 'Manually Sort Folders' does not work... >>>> >>>> TIA - bo1953 >>>> >>> >>> Mail folders or bookmark folders? >>> >> >> My bad, Mail >> >> Thank you... >> > > I just did that for Thunderbird. SeaMonkey should be the same. It > involves editing the file prefs.js VERY, VERY CAREFULLY. You will need > a list of the actual servers used by the various accounts. > > I would first save a backup copy of prefs.js, which is found in your > profile. To get there, go to your menu bar and select [Help > > Troubleshooting Information]. Select the Open Folder button to the > right of Profile Folder, all of which is in the first section under > Application Basics. > > Then, enter about:config in the URL bar. If you get a warning popup, > acknowledge it but continue. In the Search area, enter > mail.server.server > You will see a large number of results, sorted by server number. Note > the number associated with each actual server. Some server numbers will > not have an actual server; these might be "smart folders", "local > folder", "feeds", etc. Note these, too. > > Now you must associate each noted server with an account. For each > account, enter it in the Search area. Note what account is indicated by > the preference variables. > > So far, you have not changed anything. Now comes the VERY CAREFUL part. > In the Search area, enter > mail.accountmanager.accounts > The value is a comma-separated list of accounts in the order you want > them to appear. > Oops! I hit Send too soon. The value has NO blanks among the comma-separated list. When you are done rearranging the list, close all instances of SeaMonkey for the result to take effect. (Normally, that is not necessary when changing preferences; but in this case, it is indeed needed.) -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Folder Sorting Assistance SM 2.53.3 Win 10 Pro
On 8/23/2020 10:38 AM, Samuel S wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/23/2020 8:22 AM, Samuel S wrote:
>>> Hello all - can anyone advise how I can sort folders?
>>>
>>> The Add On 'Manually Sort Folders' does not work...
>>>
>>> TIA - bo1953
>>>
>>
>> Mail folders or bookmark folders?
>>
>
> My bad, Mail
>
> Thank you...
>
I just did that for Thunderbird. SeaMonkey should be the same. It
involves editing the file prefs.js VERY, VERY CAREFULLY. You will need
a list of the actual servers used by the various accounts.
I would first save a backup copy of prefs.js, which is found in your
profile. To get there, go to your menu bar and select [Help >
Troubleshooting Information]. Select the Open Folder button to the
right of Profile Folder, all of which is in the first section under
Application Basics.
Then, enter about:config in the URL bar. If you get a warning popup,
acknowledge it but continue. In the Search area, enter
mail.server.server
You will see a large number of results, sorted by server number. Note
the number associated with each actual server. Some server numbers will
not have an actual server; these might be "smart folders", "local
folder", "feeds", etc. Note these, too.
Now you must associate each noted server with an account. For each
account, enter it in the Search area. Note what account is indicated by
the preference variables.
So far, you have not changed anything. Now comes the VERY CAREFUL part.
In the Search area, enter
mail.accountmanager.accounts
The value is a comma-separated list of accounts in the order you want
them to appear.
--
David E. Ross
That Flag:
<http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html>
A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and
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First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the
name of a movement in the United States that supported
Hitler and the Nazis.
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Re: Folder Sorting Assistance SM 2.53.3 Win 10 Pro
On 8/23/2020 8:22 AM, Samuel S wrote: > Hello all - can anyone advise how I can sort folders? > > The Add On 'Manually Sort Folders' does not work... > > TIA - bo1953 > Mail folders or bookmark folders? -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Printing Problems
On 8/12/2020 7:20 AM, Tom Pamin wrote: > I continue to have problems printing pages with SM. I usually only get > maybe one page printed out of 3. Edge seems to work fine. Anyone else > having trouble? Solutions? > I often see this with certain newspaper Web sites. It is a function of the site. I think in some cases it is intentionally trying to prevent printing in order to protect the site's copyright. Other cases are merely very bad HTML. On rare occasions, I can print what I want by disabling JavaScript (not Java, which is different). Otherwise, I [right-click > Select All > Copy] and then paste into a plain-text editor (ususally Wordpad). I must then adjust the paragraph spacing and sometimes the font before printing from the editor. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Usergroup forums
On 8/2/2020 8:03 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: > Edward wrote: >> Is anyone responsible for the SeaMonkey Usergroup forums at seamonkey >> central-us net? >> >> There are numerous junk messages in its Thunderbird Support and General >> Discussion forums. It looks like the site may have been abandoned? > > https://ip-lookup.net/index.php?ip=192.252.156.30 > > You can trying calling or emailing them. > Clue: The domain SeaMonkey.central-us.net is NOT owned or controlled by Mozilla, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, or any affiliate thereof. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER
5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) >>>>>>> Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 >>>>>> >>>>>> Haven't heard back from UB yet but just noticed this. Clicked on SM help >>>>>> and about has this: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; >>>>>> rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3 >>>>>> Can that be my problem? I don't find that UA when I go the my >>>>>> about:config >>>>> I agree with NFN Smith. >>>>> Try removing SeaMonkey/2.53.3 from the UA string. >>>>> If sites see anything other than what they want to see then they reject >>>>> all of it. >>>> Thanks again, I removed SM/2.53.3 . I finally just put in the first ua >>>> that David suggested. >>>> I talked with a rep at USB awhile ago and he thinks they have probably >>>> stopped supporting the browser because he couldn't ever get a coBrowse >>>> with me. He said he was sending in a ticket and I should hear something in >>>> 2 or 3 days. >>> >>> Just received this from USB: >>> 1800USBANKS >>> 10:51 AM (4 hours ago) >>> >>> to MARIONWALTHER74, megan.esler >>> Hello Marion, >>> >>> I certainly want to make sure that you have online access. I'm sorry to >>> hear that the SeaMonkey browser is no longer supported. Thank you very much >>> for writing in. >>> >>> The online banking site supports the following browsers: >>> >>> Windows 7 or higher >>> •Google Chrome 57 or higher >>> •Internet Explorer 11 or higher >>> •Firefox 52 or higher >>> •EDGE 12 or higher >>> >>> macOS 10 or higher >>> •Safari 10 or higher >>> •Google Chrome 57 or higher >>> >>> In the email they continue to apologize but nothing is going to change the >>> fact that Sea Monkey is no longer supported here. I am also having other >>> sites warning that the browser is going to be discontinued. >>> Thanks to all of you for your amazing offers to help.. and God bless! >>> Marion >>> >> 2.53.3 has a new option if you don't waqnt to fiddle with site specific >> overrides: Edit->Preferencews->Advanced->HTTP Networking. Set User Agent >> string to "Identify as Firefox". If The site still not work afterwards they >> lied to you and longer support older Firefox versions. >> >> FR > > Thanks FR...that is one of the first things I tried. It doesn't work for > USB...maybe it would for others. Do not do the domain-specific override. The bank might be using an outside service with a different domain for Web processing. I know that happens with my bank. Instead, do a general override on general.useragent.override not on general.useragent.override.usbank.com -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER
On 7/28/2020 10:49 AM, Marion Walther wrote: > On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:51:02 PM UTC-6, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 7/27/2020 2:41 PM, Marion Walther wrote: >>> On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 3:51:05 PM UTC-6, Marion Walther wrote: >>>> On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 2:36:23 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: >>>>> Marion Walther wrote: >>>>>> On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 3:13:43 AM UTC-6, Daniel wrote: >>>>>>> Marion Walther wrote on 24/07/2020 1:17 AM: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 12:47:23 AM UTC-6, Daniel wrote: >>>>>>>>> Marion Walther wrote on 23/07/2020 8:24 AM: >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 4:01:00 PM UTC-6, Marion Walther >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 2:18:25 PM UTC-6, meagain >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot >>>>>>>>>>>>> access anything. Cannot even log out. How can I resolve >>>>>>>>>>>>> that? I have to go to Firefox to do my banking. I have used >>>>>>>>>>>>> SeaMonkey since NetScape and have my own domain so I want >>>>>>>>>>>>> to continue my email client in SM. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Network Check http 1.1 >>>>>>>>>>>> Check "Identify as SeaMonkey and advertise Firefox >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility" assuming you have SM version 2.53.3 or more >>>>>>>>>>>> recent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I hope this is the way I reply to you. My first time here. >>>>>>>>>> Meagain...I am using 2.53.3 and I have had my preferences set >>>>>>>>>> exactly that way for a long time. Not a techie but will try to >>>>>>>>>> follow all suggestions. Thanks very much for trying. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marion, that's peaked my interest Have you used SeaMonkey >>>>>>>>> 2.53.3 previously to do your banking and it worked, except in the >>>>>>>>> past couple of days it's stopped working?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If that is the case, have you tried phoning your bank to see if >>>>>>>>> they've changed something their end?? E-mail them, maybe!! -- >>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) >>>>>>>>> Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) >>>>>>>>> Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Daniel...I will try that. My experience has been that it's difficult >>>>>>>> to find the right person to resolve things by phone. Will try email. >>>>>>>> Also... can I edit my UA in about:config? This is all new to me. You >>>>>>>> guys are making a techie out of me! Would maybe changing my >>>>>>>> usbank.com string? My google string is ;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; >>>>>>>> Win64; x64; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/61.0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, setting up a usbank.com string should work but I thought I'd >>>>>>> read here somewhere that you had tried that and it had failed!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Set up a usbank.com override UA or adjust your 'normal' UA so that >>>>>>> everyone thinks you are using FF 78.0 or whatever. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) >>>>>>> Gecko/2010
Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER
I agree with NFN Smith. >>> Try removing SeaMonkey/2.53.3 from the UA string. >>> If sites see anything other than what they want to see then they reject >>> all of it. >> Thanks again, I removed SM/2.53.3 . I finally just put in the first ua that >> David suggested. >> I talked with a rep at USB awhile ago and he thinks they have probably >> stopped supporting the browser because he couldn't ever get a coBrowse with >> me. He said he was sending in a ticket and I should hear something in 2 or 3 >> days. > > Just received this from USB: > 1800USBANKS > 10:51 AM (4 hours ago) > > to MARIONWALTHER74, megan.esler > Hello Marion, > > I certainly want to make sure that you have online access. I'm sorry to hear > that the SeaMonkey browser is no longer supported. Thank you very much for > writing in. > > The online banking site supports the following browsers: > > Windows 7 or higher > •Google Chrome 57 or higher > •Internet Explorer 11 or higher > •Firefox 52 or higher > •EDGE 12 or higher > > macOS 10 or higher > •Safari 10 or higher > •Google Chrome 57 or higher > > In the email they continue to apologize but nothing is going to change the > fact that Sea Monkey is no longer supported here. I am also having other > sites warning that the browser is going to be discontinued. > Thanks to all of you for your amazing offers to help.. and God bless! > Marion > Go back to my first reply in this thread. In step #3, instead of general.useragent.override.usbank.com try general.useragent.override In step #4, instead of Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0 try Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 This will make ALL Web sites think you are using Firefox/52.0. If you want other sites to recognize that you are using SeaMonkey, 1. After you are through banking again go to about:config 2. In the Search area enter general.useragent.override 3. Select general.useragent.override under Preference Name, right-click, and select Resert from the pull-down context menu. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: extracting domain names from password manager
On 7/27/2020 10:05 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: > I am preparing to retire an email address and will need to change them > in all domains that are currently using that address. I am using the > old password manager (chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul) > and am easily able to locate these cases, but when I look at the popup > menu I see only the username and password offered for copying. > > I want to copy these domains to a spreadsheet so I can address them in > turn and mark them as fixed. How can I do so? > > Dave > I use Password Exporter 1.3.4 from <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/password-exporter/versions/1.3.4> with SeaMonkey 2.49.5. I do not know if it is compatible with later versions of SeaMonkey. In any case, I had to process the installer .xpi file through the extension converter at <http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/> before I could install it. I archived the converted installer file. If you want to try it, reply in this newsgroup thread. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER
On 7/23/2020 8:08 AM, Lemuel Johnson wrote: > On 7/22/2020 2:42 PM, David E. Ross wrote: >> >> >> My second thought, however, involves you keeping your US Bank account. >> >> 1. In SeaMonkey, enter about:config in the URI area (address bar), >> dismissing any warning popup. >> >> 2. Right-click anywhere on the list of preference variables and select >> [New > String] from the pull-down context menu. >> >> 3. In the "New string value" dialogue, enter >> general.useragent.override.usbank.com >> and then select the OK button. >> >> 4. In the "Enter string value" dialogue, enter >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) >> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0 >> all as a single line (Pardon the line wrap above.) and then select the >> OK button. >> >> NOTE: In step #4, you might enter a different user agent (UA) string if >> you know of a more recent one for Firefox or one for a Mac instead of >> this one, which is for Windows. >> > > I found the useragent override was not sufficient for accessing Chase > Bank, probably because they cycle the authorization info through some > unseen non-Chase domain. The site does work when I use the "User Agent > Switcher" extension, which displays the same bogus Firefox UA to every site. > > Lem Johnson > I use PrefBar's useragent Extlist for the same purpose. However, I wanted to advise the original poster without suggesting the installation of an extension, especially since I did not know then what version of SeaMonkey was being used and thus did not know what extension might be compatible. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER
On 7/22/2020 4:37 PM, Marion Walther wrote: > On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 1:43:02 PM UTC-6, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 7/22/2020 10:10 AM, Marion Walther wrote: >>> I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access >>> anything. Cannot even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go >>> to Firefox to do my banking. I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and >>> have my own domain so I want to continue my email client in SM. >> My first thought is to change banks. >> >> I used to bank with a small community bank. It had a branch close to >> where I worked and another one that I passed commuting between work and >> home. It was an early adopter of direct deposit for payroll. They >> charged me no account fee. When my office moved, I did not change >> banks. A year or more would go by without me needing to even call the >> bank, let alone visit a branch. If I wanted to deposit a check, the >> bank provided pre-paid bank-by-mail envelopes. The envelopes were >> addressed to the branch where my account was based. They would then >> mail me the deposit receipt along with another bank-by-mail envelope. >> >> US Bank bought up that small bank. Then, they required me to provide my >> own envelopes to bank-by-mail. The envelop had to be mailed to US >> Bank's main office (about 3-4 days instead of 1 day). If I wanted a >> deposit receipt, I had to include my own return, stamped envelope. I >> changed to another small community bank. >> >> My second thought, however, involves you keeping your US Bank account. >> >> 1. In SeaMonkey, enter about:config in the URI area (address bar), >> dismissing any warning popup. >> >> 2. Right-click anywhere on the list of preference variables and select >> [New > String] from the pull-down context menu. >> >> 3. In the "New string value" dialogue, enter >> general.useragent.override.usbank.com >> and then select the OK button. >> >> 4. In the "Enter string value" dialogue, enter >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) >> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0 >> all as a single line (Pardon the line wrap above.) and then select the >> OK button. >> >> NOTE: In step #4, you might enter a different user agent (UA) string if >> you know of a more recent one for Firefox or one for a Mac instead of >> this one, which is for Windows. >> > > Again...thx David. I followed your instructions exactly. Didn't work but I > have a question. > Does the NT10.0 stand for Windows 10? I am using Windows 7. Regarding Windows 7 vs Windows 10, I had a problem similar to yours with the US Postal service's Web site. I have Windows 7 and SeaMonkey 2.49.5. What I described for you is what I use for the Postal Service except, instead of general.useragent.override.usbank.com I have general.useragent.override.usps.com -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER
On 7/22/2020 4:37 PM, Marion Walther wrote: > On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 1:43:02 PM UTC-6, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 7/22/2020 10:10 AM, Marion Walther wrote: >>> I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access >>> anything. Cannot even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go >>> to Firefox to do my banking. I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and >>> have my own domain so I want to continue my email client in SM. >> My first thought is to change banks. >> >> I used to bank with a small community bank. It had a branch close to >> where I worked and another one that I passed commuting between work and >> home. It was an early adopter of direct deposit for payroll. They >> charged me no account fee. When my office moved, I did not change >> banks. A year or more would go by without me needing to even call the >> bank, let alone visit a branch. If I wanted to deposit a check, the >> bank provided pre-paid bank-by-mail envelopes. The envelopes were >> addressed to the branch where my account was based. They would then >> mail me the deposit receipt along with another bank-by-mail envelope. >> >> US Bank bought up that small bank. Then, they required me to provide my >> own envelopes to bank-by-mail. The envelop had to be mailed to US >> Bank's main office (about 3-4 days instead of 1 day). If I wanted a >> deposit receipt, I had to include my own return, stamped envelope. I >> changed to another small community bank. >> >> My second thought, however, involves you keeping your US Bank account. >> >> 1. In SeaMonkey, enter about:config in the URI area (address bar), >> dismissing any warning popup. >> >> 2. Right-click anywhere on the list of preference variables and select >> [New > String] from the pull-down context menu. >> >> 3. In the "New string value" dialogue, enter >> general.useragent.override.usbank.com >> and then select the OK button. >> >> 4. In the "Enter string value" dialogue, enter >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) >> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0 >> all as a single line (Pardon the line wrap above.) and then select the >> OK button. >> >> NOTE: In step #4, you might enter a different user agent (UA) string if >> you know of a more recent one for Firefox or one for a Mac instead of >> this one, which is for Windows. >> > > Again...thx David. I followed your instructions exactly. Didn't work but I > have a question. > Does the NT10.0 stand for Windows 10? I am using Windows 7. > That is okay. All this will do is make US Bank's server think you are using Firefox 75 with Windows 10. It does NOT require you to use either Firefox 75 itself or Windows 10 itself. If that is not working, then there is something else in your setup that the bank's server does not like. I will give you an example from my own usage. I normally Web surf with the following preferences: "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled Cookies for the requested Web site only Popups blocked Images from other domains blocked HTML5 Media and Flash disabled An extension that befuddles attempts to track me AdBlock Plus enabled And there might be others. However, four financial institutions with which I have frequent Web-based transactions really do not like that setup. So I created a separate profile with some of those preferences changed: Popups enabled Images from all domains enabled HTML5 Media and Flash endabled The extension that befuddles attempts not installed in the profile AdBlock Plus enabled but only for certain unrelated sites that set cookies (Yahoo, Amazon, Youtube, others, none of which I visit while using my financial institutions profile) For one institution, all cookies are enabled -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER
On 7/22/2020 10:10 AM, Marion Walther wrote: > I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access > anything. Cannot even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go > to Firefox to do my banking. I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and > have my own domain so I want to continue my email client in SM. My first thought is to change banks. I used to bank with a small community bank. It had a branch close to where I worked and another one that I passed commuting between work and home. It was an early adopter of direct deposit for payroll. They charged me no account fee. When my office moved, I did not change banks. A year or more would go by without me needing to even call the bank, let alone visit a branch. If I wanted to deposit a check, the bank provided pre-paid bank-by-mail envelopes. The envelopes were addressed to the branch where my account was based. They would then mail me the deposit receipt along with another bank-by-mail envelope. US Bank bought up that small bank. Then, they required me to provide my own envelopes to bank-by-mail. The envelop had to be mailed to US Bank's main office (about 3-4 days instead of 1 day). If I wanted a deposit receipt, I had to include my own return, stamped envelope. I changed to another small community bank. My second thought, however, involves you keeping your US Bank account. 1. In SeaMonkey, enter about:config in the URI area (address bar), dismissing any warning popup. 2. Right-click anywhere on the list of preference variables and select [New > String] from the pull-down context menu. 3. In the "New string value" dialogue, enter general.useragent.override.usbank.com and then select the OK button. 4. In the "Enter string value" dialogue, enter Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0 all as a single line (Pardon the line wrap above.) and then select the OK button. NOTE: In step #4, you might enter a different user agent (UA) string if you know of a more recent one for Firefox or one for a Mac instead of this one, which is for Windows. -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Linking to a Script
Somehow, I recall that a link can be added to the Bookmarks toolbar such that it can be selected without having to view the bookmarks. Instead it would appear on the toolbar. I just cannot remember how to do that. Also, can such a link be to a local .bat file script? -- David E. Ross That Flag: <http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_conf_flag.html> A TV ad in support of re-electing President Trump and featuring Vice-President Pence is sponsored by America First Policy. In the 1930s, "America First" was the name of a movement in the United States that supported Hitler and the Nazis. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adblock
On 7/10/2020 2:11 PM, Ray Davison wrote: > At some point Adblock shower up on SM. I never asked for it. > > I have not determined how to white list a site. > > What I have reports as version 2.6.6, 13Nov2014. Attempts to download a > fresh copy always land me on a site to download FF. > > Ideas? > > TY > Ray I think Adblock Plus 2.9.1 is the last version compatible with SeaMonkey 2.49.5. I archived the installer for that. If you want a copy, reply here. To whitelist: 1. On the SeaMOnkey menu bar, select [Tools > Add-ons Manager]. 2. On the Add-ons Manager window or tab (depending on your preferences), select the Options button for Adblock Plus and then the "Filter Preferences" button. 3. On the left side of the Adblock Plus Filter Preferences window, select Exception and then the "Add fileter" button. 4. Directly under "Filter rule", there will be an input area. Insert a URI or a fragment of a URI there. You can use an asterisk (*) as a wild-card. 5. Select the Close button. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Trump describes statues of Confederate military as memorials to heroes, representing our values. Those who took up arms against our national government during the Civil War were NOT heroes. They were traitors who committee treason. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adblock
On 7/10/2020 2:11 PM, Ray Davison wrote: > At some point Adblock shower up on SM. I never asked for it. > > I have not determined how to white list a site. > > What I have reports as version 2.6.6, 13Nov2014. Attempts to download a > fresh copy always land me on a site to download FF. > > Ideas? > > TY > Ray > AdBlock or AdBlock Plus? There is a difference. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Trump describes statues of Confederate military as memorials to heroes, representing our values. Those who took up arms against our national government during the Civil War were NOT heroes. They were traitors who committee treason. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bcc: to a Mail List?
On 7/8/2020 8:39 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote: > How can I Bcc: a message to a mailing list? I want to send a "press > release" but don't want the recipients to see the other people who are > on the list since it contains client information. > > If I create a list and in the address book window use the compose button > the list names are added to the To: list. If however I compose a message > and enter the list name in a Bcc: then the list members are not added to > the message and message fails to send. > That should work the same as it does in Thunderbird. Enter the name of the distribution list with Bcc. But also have a To address, your own. Many E-mail systems -- yours or the recipients' hosts, not Thunderbird -- reject messages with only Bcc addresses. Other systems might reject messages with more than a small number of Bcc addresses. Also, see if the PopMailListRecipients extension will work with your version of SeaMonkey. See <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/popmaillistrecipients/>. That Web page contains a link to see if there is a SeaMonkey equivalent along with a suggestion on converting the Thunderbird extension to a SeaMonkey extension. If the extension does work with your SeaMonkey, you enter your distribution list as Bcc and then select the toolbar button created by the extension. In Thunderbird, that parses the distribution list and replaces it with the individual E-mail addresses still with Bcc. If that works with your SeaMonkey, it will give you visibility to whom the message was addressed. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Trump describes statues of Confederate military as memorials to heroes, representing our values. Those who took up arms against our national government during the Civil War were NOT heroes. They were traitors who committee treason. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Webcam with Seamonkey?
On 7/6/2020 12:14 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote: > I was attempting to use zoom in the browser, I have a need to use webex > as well. I also tried to use some of the camera test websites and they > give me a error that my browser is not compatible. > > > > Bill Spikowski wrote: >> Rob Steinmetz wrote: >>> Like many people I have been doing web conferences lately. I added a >>> USB camers to my desktop, so I could participate more easily. It >>> generally works fine except it does not seem to work in seamonkey. I >>> feel I must be missing something. The camera does work in other browsers. >>> >>> What am I doing worng? >> >> >> How are you trying to use your camera in Seamonkey? >> >> Are you trying to use a service like Webex or Zoom through your SM >> browser rather than through their native apps? >> >> Or something else? > First of all, it is the convention here to BOTTOM POST replies. I found I get excellent results by using the Zoom application. I never tried doing Zoom within a browser. Ditto for Skype. For security reasons -- 1. I only install the Zoom application just before I am going to use it. When the Zoom meeting is done, I uninstall the application with a non-Windows application that also removes any registry entries for Zoom. Of course, I have archived the Zoom installer. I make a copy of the installer and install from that copy because a successful installation seems to delete the installer automatically. (Skype remains installed on my PC.) 2. I enable my webcam and microphone only when I am going to use them. If I am going to use Skype, I test the webcam and microphone using Skype's [Settings > Audio & Video] before the meeting starts. If I am going to use Zoom, I test the webcam and microphone using VLC's [Media > Stream] before the meeting starts. For that latter, I must significantly reduce the volumn of the audio because it streams locally very loud with much static. The most important part of testing is to make sure that the webcam is pointed correctly at me. 3. When I am done with either Zoom or Skype, I disable my webcam and microphone. Then, I keep the webcam zipped into a black cloth bag. No, I do not unplug either device because they are plugged into the back of my PC tower, and it is a real bother to get at the plugs and ports. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Trump describes statues of Confederate military as memorials to heroes, representing our values. Those who took up arms against our national government during the Civil War were NOT heroes. They were traitors who committee treason. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Disable mouse hover popups
On 6/27/2020 8:03 PM, AK wrote: > Is there a way to disable those annoying popups whenever your mouse hovers > over certain areas? > > Andy > There are three distinct tooltips that I frequently encounter. Each requires a different way to disable it. For tooltips on tabs: 1. Enter in the Address Bar. 2. If you get a warning popup, dismiss it. 3. Enter browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable in the search area. 4. Select the line for browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable. 5. Right-click and select Toggle. For tooltips on the display of Web pages: 1. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preference window under Category, select Appearance. 3. On the Appearance pane, clear the checkmark in the checkbox for Show Tooltips. (To clear it, merely click on the checkbox.) 4. Select the OK button. HOWEVER, I do NOT recommend disabling tooltips on the display of Web pages. For links to other Web pages, they often give more detail about the linked page before you select it. For images, they often describe the image. I use them on my Web pages to indicate my copyright notices for images I created; I also use them to warn users that selecting a link on one of my Web pages will open a new tab or browser window without leaving the current page. BEFORE viewing Web pages at Wikipedia: 1. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preference window under Category, select [Advanced > Scripts & Plugins]. 3. On the Scripts & Plugins pane, clear the checkmark in the checkbox for Browser directly under "Enable JavaScript for". 4. Select the OK button. NOTE: Remember to restore the checkmark when you are through with Wikipedia. Other Web sites might not display correctly if JavaScript remains disabled. Also, this does not work on the current Wikipedia page if you do it after you have loaded that page; if you leave that page and then return to it, however, this should work. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Trump claims he is the "law and order" President. Then, he breaks the law by using copyrighted music at his rallies without permission from the copyright owners. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Banking sites do not display entire page
On 6/27/2020 9:59 AM, AK wrote: > On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using Seamonkey. > > Same with Firefox. > > I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in. > > I have to hit F11 to see everything. > > Is that common? > > Is it fixable? > > Andy > One of my credit unions (I belong to two) has a navigation bar along the left edge of every page. The Logoff link is at the bottom. The navigation bar is NOT scrollable. I cannot see the Logoff link even if I maximize the SeaMonkey winodw. Thus, to log off, I must use F11. Even then, I have to collapse any of the navigation items I have expanded. Also, I have to enable third-party cookies to see my monthly statements. I call this design "user hostile". -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Trump claims he is the "law and order" President. Then, he breaks the law by using copyrighted music at his rallies without permission from the copyright owners. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: create link on desktop
On 6/13/2020 12:50 PM, meagain wrote: > SeaMonkey lets you drag a link onto the desktop. But launching the link > now launches Microsoft Edge. I want the link to go back to SeaMonkey - > how to do that? > The following works for SeaMonkey 2.49.5 under Windows 7. Something very similar should work for your SeaMonkey 2.53.2 under your Windows 10. It takes two settings. First setting: 1. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Browser]. 3. On the Browser pane, select the Set Default Browser button. 4. On the Preferences window, select the OK button to close the window. Second setting: 1. In Windows 10, launch whatever corresponds to the Control Panel. 2. On the Control Panel window, select Default Programs. 3. On the Default Programs window, select "Set program access and computer defaults". 4. On the Set Program Access and Computer Defaults, select the radio button for Custom. 5. On the Custom pane under "Choose a default web browser", select the radio button for SeaMonkey and then the OK button. 6. Close the Default Programs window. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Who would you trust to provide accurate information about COVID-19? Doctors who have studied viruses and treated patients for years? Or a TV actor who tweets "cofefe"? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page display on www.rt.com
On 6/11/2020 9:19 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: > Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: > >> btw, when I saw "rt" I first thought of the Radio Times. Maybe not. > > RT = Radio Times > > Heh. > The domain www.rt.com is owned by ANO "TV-Novosti", a Russia-based news service funded by the Russian government. See <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_%28TV_network%29>. One paragraph there states (footnotes deleted here): > RT has been described as a propaganda outlet for the Russian > government and its foreign policy. RT has also been accused of > spreading disinformation by news reporters, including some former RT > reporters. The UK media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT > to have breached its rules on impartiality and on one occasion found > it had broadcast "materially misleading" content. RT's > editor-in-chief compared it with the Russian Army and Defence > Ministry and talked about it "waging the information war against the > entire Western world." In September 2017, RT America was ordered to > register as a "foreign agent" with the United States Department of > Justice under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Under the act, RT > is required to disclose financial information to the U.S. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Who would you trust to provide accurate information about COVID-19? Doctors who have studied viruses and treated patients for years? Or a TV actor who tweets "cofefe"? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin for Seamonkey
On 6/11/2020 9:17 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: > Ray_Net wrote: > >> Why youtube did not make available for any video .. a "Download Button" >> ? :-) > > It's true, but in some ways youtube are the ones stealing from the > artists and content creators. > > If you watch a streaming video, does it mean you've stolen it, then if > you SAVE that video, does it suddenly mean you've stolen it. If you > record a radio programme to a cassette tape, or a TV programme to VCR, > what then? > Under U.S. copyright law: * Okay for personal use. * Illegal for commercial use, for distribution, or for replaying in a commercial environment (e.g., in a restaurant you own). -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Who would you trust to provide accurate information about COVID-19? Doctors who have studied viruses and treated patients for years? Or a TV actor who tweets "cofefe"? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin for Seamonkey
On 6/10/2020 12:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote: > David E. Ross wrote on 10-06-20 05:32: >> On 6/9/2020 7:34 PM, Andy K wrote: >>> Is there a plugin for Seamonkey that can download the audio portion of >>> videos on YouTube? >>> >>> I am using Ubuntu_Mate 18.04 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Andy >>> >> Instead of a plugin, consider ClipGrab at <https://clipgrab.org/>. If >> you scroll down that Web page a little more than half way, you will find >> a version for Ubuntu on the right side. >> >> I use Windows. I download the Windows version and then disable my >> Internet connection before installing ClipGrab. That way, I block the >> installation of third-party nagware, which some consider to be malware. >> I do not know if that installation approach is necessary for Ubuntu. >> >> Once ClipGrab is installed, you start the playing of a YouTube >> performance. Copy the URI and paste it into the top input area on >> ClipGrab's Downloads tab. Initially, the Format selection list is >> grayed-out. It becomes available after ClipGrab has analyzed the URI. >> Then, you can select the format. There are three format choices that >> are audio-only: MP3, OGG Vorbis, and original. (There are two choices >> for "original": video and audio-only.) >> > Isn't it reprehensible to steal videos or audios > No. In the United States, it is indeed illegal to make an item for your own use if it is patented by someone else. However, it is NOT illegal to make a copy of a work copyrighted by someone else if it is strictly for your own non-commercial use. While you cannot generally make multiple copies for the purpose of distributing them, there is also an exception to that prohibition for certain "fair uses". -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Who would you trust to provide accurate information about COVID-19? Doctors who have studied viruses and treated patients for years? Or a TV actor who tweets "cofefe"? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin for Seamonkey
On 6/9/2020 7:34 PM, Andy K wrote: > Is there a plugin for Seamonkey that can download the audio portion of videos > on YouTube? > > I am using Ubuntu_Mate 18.04 > > Thanks, > Andy > Instead of a plugin, consider ClipGrab at <https://clipgrab.org/>. If you scroll down that Web page a little more than half way, you will find a version for Ubuntu on the right side. I use Windows. I download the Windows version and then disable my Internet connection before installing ClipGrab. That way, I block the installation of third-party nagware, which some consider to be malware. I do not know if that installation approach is necessary for Ubuntu. Once ClipGrab is installed, you start the playing of a YouTube performance. Copy the URI and paste it into the top input area on ClipGrab's Downloads tab. Initially, the Format selection list is grayed-out. It becomes available after ClipGrab has analyzed the URI. Then, you can select the format. There are three format choices that are audio-only: MP3, OGG Vorbis, and original. (There are two choices for "original": video and audio-only.) -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Who would you trust to provide accurate information about COVID-19? Doctors who have studied viruses and treated patients for years? Or a TV actor who tweets "cofefe"? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox
On 6/2/2020 3:12 AM, Daniel wrote: > Daniel wrote on 2/06/2020 7:26 PM: >> David E. Ross wrote on 2/06/2020 7:42 AM: >>> On 6/1/2020 6:02 AM, Daniel wrote: >>>> I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account. >>>> >>>> I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I >>>> get an error message . >>>> >>>> Quote >>>> Sending of the message failed. >>>> The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server >>>> failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please >>>> verify that your news server settings are correct and try again. >>>> End Quote >>>> >>>> Every time!! >>>> >>>> This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on >>>> the "Local Folders" account. >>>> >>>> Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to >>>> resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved >>>> from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't >>>> appeared on the E-S newsgroup! >>>> >>>> Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can >>>> actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!! >>> >>> If your messages are in your Outbox, that indicates you might have >>> selected "Send later" instead of "Send". If so, select the Outbox >>> folder (NOT any messages there), right-click, and select "Send unsent >>> messages" from the pull-down context menu. >>> >> You were correct, David, I had selected "Send Later" because (well, >> that's another story!). >> >> Before closing down last night, I moved then back into the "Drafts" >> folder so, when I can on-line tonight, I was asked if I wanted to send >> them, to which I responded 'Yes'. >> >> I'll see if they actually made it to the UseNet group and report back >> later! >> > I've just been through selecting each message in the "Drafts" folder, > then Message->Edit Message as New->Send and they all appeared on > the UseNet newsgroup! > > Why tonight, but not last night?? Don't know!! > You might consider the following. Note that I am using Thunderbird 52.9.1. If you are using a newer version, some of the following might be different. However, there should be equivalents. 1. Select [Tools > Options] on the main menu bar. 2. On the Options window, select [Advanced > Network & Disk Space > Offline]. 3. On the Offline Settings window, check the radio buttons for "Send unsent messages when going online?" Do you want it automatically (then Yes)? Do you want to pick and choose (then Ask me)? Or do you always want to do this manually (then No)? When I use "Send later", my Outbox label becomes bold. When I decide to send the messages, I do not move them to Drafts. Instead (as I indicated earlier), I select my Outbox, right-click, and select Send Unset Messages. NOTE: Thunserbird's Outbox is much like an Outbox folder in a Fax application. They both hold messages you want to send, but you do not want to send them until later. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I understand people demonstrating against injustice, bigotry, and oppression. Their right to assemble and make a point is stated in the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I do not understand, however, what point they make when they engage in vandalism, arson, and looting. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox
On 6/1/2020 6:02 AM, Daniel wrote: > I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account. > > I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I > get an error message . > > Quote > Sending of the message failed. > The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server > failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please > verify that your news server settings are correct and try again. > End Quote > > Every time!! > > This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on > the "Local Folders" account. > > Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to > resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved > from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't > appeared on the E-S newsgroup! > > Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can > actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!! > If your messages are in your Outbox, that indicates you might have selected "Send later" instead of "Send". If so, select the Outbox folder (NOT any messages there), right-click, and select "Send unsent messages" from the pull-down context menu. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I understand people demonstrating against injustice, bigotry, and oppression. Their right to assemble and make a point is stated in the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I do not understand, however, what point they make when they engage in vandalism, arson, and looting. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.
On 5/31/2020 2:02 PM, Frog wrote [in part]: > I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that > SeaMonkey has crashed. I have tried to chase down what might be causing > this endless string of problems without much success. Let me say, > however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a > 32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is > based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. > Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and > all is working properly with this software. Also, I am using Windows 10 > for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot > Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any > problems being found. Do you install SeaMonkey in its default location? If so, when you went from x32 to x64, did you do the following, in this sequence? 1. Save your profile folder? 2. Remove the x32 version? 3. Install the x64 version? Since I use Windows 7 and not Windows 10, I do not know if this is a stupid question: Are you sure your PC and your Windows 10 are both x64? Did you read ALL of the "Release Notes" for your version of SeaMonkey? Have you heeded all the warnings there? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> I understand people demonstrating against injustice, bigotry, and oppression. Their right to assemble and make a point is stated in the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I do not understand, however, what point they make when they engage in vandalism, arson, and looting. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 32 or 64 bit
On 5/28/2020 1:55 PM, JAS wrote: > How does one go about telling which version of SM they have on their > computer? I am using ver. 2.49.5 right now and I have read if going to a > different bit when updating it is avised to uninstall first. > > JAS > If are using Windows and you install in the default location, x32 installs in [C:\Program Files (x86)] and x64 installs in ["C:\Program Files"]. In going from x32 to x64 you will have SeaMonkey twice and there will be conflicts. For many years, however, I have been installing SeaMonkey in a non-default location that is on a drive that is NOT C. When I updated from x32 to x64, I still installed in that location. In my case, not uninstalling the older version was not necessary. By the way, I consider my profiles to be data. I have them on a drive that is neither C nor the drive where SeaMonkey is installed. All this has been my configuration since at least 2014. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does the Acrobat DC plug in no longer work in SM 2.53? Other broken helper apps
On 5/26/2020 1:02 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > > > David E. Ross wrote: >> On 5/26/2020 11:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote: >>> On 5/25/2020 6:09 PM, Hawker wrote: >>>> Since updating to SM 2.53 I'm having "helper app" issues. >>>> The most annoying is that PDFs no longer open in the browser. Going to >>>> the helper app, I set it to open in SM or always ask but it stays on >>>> always ask. I seem to remember reading this this version was going to >>>> break a bunch of legacy plug ins. Could this be that? >>>> >>>> Also for JPGs I have it set to Always Ask but it is opening in SM every >>>> time no matter what helper apps is set to. What gives? I tried setting >>>> it to save and it won't change. >>> >>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 >>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >>> SeaMonkey/2.49.5 >>> >>> Since 2016, I have been using the PDF Viewer extension in place of the >>> Adobe Acrobat Reader plug-in. I have version 2.2.255, installed 4-Feb-20. >>> >>> I do not know if that version is compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53. I do >>> know that several extensions that I use frequently are not compatible. >>> I have archived version 2.2.255. Reply to this newsgroup thread if you >>> want a copy, and I will upload it to my Web site for you to download. >>> >>> I have had one problem with this extension. When I access my latest >>> bill from Southern California Edison via the Web, I cannot print it via >>> the extension. It prints. However, the amount due is close to the >>> right edge of the PDF file; and the cents amount is cut off. The >>> extension allows me to download the PDF, and I successfully print it via >>> Adobe's Acrobat Reader. >>> >>> The later version 2.3.200 is available from >>> <https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/getting_started/#download>, but I do >>> not know if this is compatible with 2.49.5 or 2.53. >>> >>> NOTE: The functionality of the PDF Viewer extension is incorporated >>> into the latest "vanilla" versions of Firefox. >>> >>> One last comment: I stopped updating Adobe's Acrobat Reader with >>> version 11.0.23.22. I do not want to use Adobe's cloud system (or >>> anyone else's), and I really do not like the user interface of the >>> various DC versions of Acrobat Reader. >>> >> >> Oops!! The link for 2.3.200 is for JavaScript to embed in a Web page. >> Apparently with Firefox and Chrome now using webextensions, .xpi >> versions of the PDF Viewer extension are no longer being developed or >> distributed. However, I do have version 2.2.255 archived. >> > > https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-seamonkey/releases > > FRG Thank you. I downloaded PDF Viewer 2.3.233 from that Web site, installed it, and it works very well. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
On 5/26/2020 2:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote: > David E. Ross wrote on 26-05-20 22:56: >> On 5/26/2020 12:40 PM, EE wrote: >>> flyguy wrote: >>>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM: >>>>> flyguy wrote: >>>>>> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >>>>>> >>>>>> The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do >>>>>> play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? >>>>> > What's wrong? >>>>> >>>>> For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2. >>>> Oops. Forgot to show the link: >>>> >>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 >>>> >>>> >>>> Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a >>>> problem with SM setup and not the version. >>> I do not see anything that looks like a video on that page. I see only >>> images and text. >>> >> The images along the left edge have right-pointing triangles, which >> indicate selecting them launches videos. >> > Don't work for me, perhzps it's a Flash (I have not installed Adobe > Flash Player ans I will not do it - because, it's a DEAD product) > Nope, not Flash. I normally block Flash, but I enabled it when I tried that Web page. I still got no videos. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
On 5/26/2020 12:40 PM, EE wrote: > flyguy wrote: >> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM: >>> flyguy wrote: >>>> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >>>> >>>> The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do >>>> play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? >>> >>> > What's wrong? >>> >>> For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2. >> >> Oops. Forgot to show the link: >> >> https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 >> >> >> >> Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a >> problem with SM setup and not the version. > > I do not see anything that looks like a video on that page. I see only > images and text. > The images along the left edge have right-pointing triangles, which indicate selecting them launches videos. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does the Acrobat DC plug in no longer work in SM 2.53? Other broken helper apps
On 5/26/2020 11:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 5/25/2020 6:09 PM, Hawker wrote: >> Since updating to SM 2.53 I'm having "helper app" issues. >> The most annoying is that PDFs no longer open in the browser. Going to >> the helper app, I set it to open in SM or always ask but it stays on >> always ask. I seem to remember reading this this version was going to >> break a bunch of legacy plug ins. Could this be that? >> >> Also for JPGs I have it set to Always Ask but it is opening in SM every >> time no matter what helper apps is set to. What gives? I tried setting >> it to save and it won't change. > > Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 > SeaMonkey/2.49.5 > > Since 2016, I have been using the PDF Viewer extension in place of the > Adobe Acrobat Reader plug-in. I have version 2.2.255, installed 4-Feb-20. > > I do not know if that version is compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53. I do > know that several extensions that I use frequently are not compatible. > I have archived version 2.2.255. Reply to this newsgroup thread if you > want a copy, and I will upload it to my Web site for you to download. > > I have had one problem with this extension. When I access my latest > bill from Southern California Edison via the Web, I cannot print it via > the extension. It prints. However, the amount due is close to the > right edge of the PDF file; and the cents amount is cut off. The > extension allows me to download the PDF, and I successfully print it via > Adobe's Acrobat Reader. > > The later version 2.3.200 is available from > <https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/getting_started/#download>, but I do > not know if this is compatible with 2.49.5 or 2.53. > > NOTE: The functionality of the PDF Viewer extension is incorporated > into the latest "vanilla" versions of Firefox. > > One last comment: I stopped updating Adobe's Acrobat Reader with > version 11.0.23.22. I do not want to use Adobe's cloud system (or > anyone else's), and I really do not like the user interface of the > various DC versions of Acrobat Reader. > Oops!! The link for 2.3.200 is for JavaScript to embed in a Web page. Apparently with Firefox and Chrome now using webextensions, .xpi versions of the PDF Viewer extension are no longer being developed or distributed. However, I do have version 2.2.255 archived. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does the Acrobat DC plug in no longer work in SM 2.53? Other broken helper apps
On 5/25/2020 6:09 PM, Hawker wrote: > Since updating to SM 2.53 I'm having "helper app" issues. > The most annoying is that PDFs no longer open in the browser. Going to > the helper app, I set it to open in SM or always ask but it stays on > always ask. I seem to remember reading this this version was going to > break a bunch of legacy plug ins. Could this be that? > > Also for JPGs I have it set to Always Ask but it is opening in SM every > time no matter what helper apps is set to. What gives? I tried setting > it to save and it won't change. Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Since 2016, I have been using the PDF Viewer extension in place of the Adobe Acrobat Reader plug-in. I have version 2.2.255, installed 4-Feb-20. I do not know if that version is compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53. I do know that several extensions that I use frequently are not compatible. I have archived version 2.2.255. Reply to this newsgroup thread if you want a copy, and I will upload it to my Web site for you to download. I have had one problem with this extension. When I access my latest bill from Southern California Edison via the Web, I cannot print it via the extension. It prints. However, the amount due is close to the right edge of the PDF file; and the cents amount is cut off. The extension allows me to download the PDF, and I successfully print it via Adobe's Acrobat Reader. The later version 2.3.200 is available from <https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/getting_started/#download>, but I do not know if this is compatible with 2.49.5 or 2.53. NOTE: The functionality of the PDF Viewer extension is incorporated into the latest "vanilla" versions of Firefox. One last comment: I stopped updating Adobe's Acrobat Reader with version 11.0.23.22. I do not want to use Adobe's cloud system (or anyone else's), and I really do not like the user interface of the various DC versions of Acrobat Reader. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
On 5/25/2020 4:49 PM, flyguy wrote: > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM: >> flyguy wrote: >>> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >>> >>> The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if >>> I use >>> Chrome. What's wrong? >> >> > What's wrong? >> >> For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2. > > Oops. Forgot to show the link: > > https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 > > Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a problem > with SM > setup and not the version. > There are 115 HTML errors and 75 CSS errors in that Web page. I believe your problem is with the Web page and not with SeaMonkey. The phone number for Home Depot's Web site feedback is 1-800-435-4654. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Save Frequency
On 5/19/2020 3:23 PM, Lemuel Johnson wrote: > On 5/19/2020 1:04 PM, David E. Ross wrote: >> If SeaMonkey terminates unexpectedly and I relaunch, I get the option to >> restore my failed session. I notice that the restored session might not >> be quite what it was when SeaMonkey terminated. >> >> Is there a preference variable that indicates how fequent SeaMonkey's >> state is saved for a subsequent restore? >> > > browser.sessionstore.interval would be the first place I'd try. > > Lem Johnson > Thank you. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Save Frequency
If SeaMonkey terminates unexpectedly and I relaunch, I get the option to restore my failed session. I notice that the restored session might not be quite what it was when SeaMonkey terminated. Is there a preference variable that indicates how fequent SeaMonkey's state is saved for a subsequent restore? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sorting Buttons
On 5/18/2020 9:44 AM, EE wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.5 >> Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1 >> >> If I right-click on the SeaMonkey menu bar or tool bar, I get the >> Customize Toolbar window. With or without the Toolbar Buttons >> extension, is there some way to sort the buttons in that window. I >> would want to sort them alphabetically by name (the text that goes with >> the icon)? >> >> Not counting those buttons that are already installed on my SeaMonkey >> tool and menu bars, I have 97 buttons in my Customize Toolbar window. >> They seem to be in random order. It is quite tedious to find a button >> there. >> > If I right-click a tool bar, I get a context menu. One of the items is > Customize. > Yes, I am quite familiar with that. The resulting Customize Toolbar window has a number of buttons, icons with text labels. What I want is the buttons in the Customize Toolbar window (not on my actual tool bar) to be sorted alphabetically by their text labels, thus making it easier to find a particular button. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
On 5/17/2020 11:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 5/17/2020 9:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: >> David E. Ross wrote: >>> On 5/17/2020 7:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: >>>> flyguy wrote: >>>>> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >>>>> >>>>> Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser >>>>> window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front >>>>> page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the >>>>> email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory >>>>> usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without >>>>> closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often >>>>> I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the >>>>> browser, too. >>>> >>>> I have a similar problem with SeaMonkey memory usage growing over time. >>>> My solution was to add a "restart application" button that I use >>>> whenever it starts getting sluggish. This closes and restarts SeaMonkey >>>> without losing anything other than the time it takes to restart. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>> >>> Does the Restart Application button do a full restart? That is, does it >>> reload user.js to restore preferences that might have been changed >>> during the session? If so, how can I get the Restart Application button? >>> >> >> It appears to do a full restart. You can get it here: >> >> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/restart-application-button/?src=ss >> >> Dave >> > > Thanks. I will try it later today. > Yes, I installed it. It is indeed better than me manually terminating and then relaunching SeaMonkey. However, at least one change I do via PrefBar does not get reset when I use the button. That is spoofing another browser via PrefBar's "useragent", which uses scripts instead of preference variables. There might be other PrefBar script-based actions that are not reset. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Sorting Buttons
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1 If I right-click on the SeaMonkey menu bar or tool bar, I get the Customize Toolbar window. With or without the Toolbar Buttons extension, is there some way to sort the buttons in that window. I would want to sort them alphabetically by name (the text that goes with the icon)? Not counting those buttons that are already installed on my SeaMonkey tool and menu bars, I have 97 buttons in my Customize Toolbar window. They seem to be in random order. It is quite tedious to find a button there. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
On 5/17/2020 11:24 AM, EE wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> On 5/17/2020 7:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: >>> flyguy wrote: >>>> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >>>> >>>> Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser >>>> window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front >>>> page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the >>>> email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory >>>> usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without >>>> closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often >>>> I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the >>>> browser, too. >>> >>> I have a similar problem with SeaMonkey memory usage growing over time. >>> My solution was to add a "restart application" button that I use >>> whenever it starts getting sluggish. This closes and restarts SeaMonkey >>> without losing anything other than the time it takes to restart. >>> >>> Dave >>> >> >> Does the Restart Application button do a full restart? That is, does it >> reload user.js to restore preferences that might have been changed >> during the session? If so, how can I get the Restart Application button? >> > Chromedit Plus provides a stand-alone restart button. Restart does redo > the preference settings from user.js. > Aha! That is exactly what I have been seeking. Some Web sites that I visit require that I change my preferences from what I usually have. I use PrefBar for that. Sometimes the changes are so extensive, however, that it is easier to terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it. If I was in a profile that is not my default, that also means switching back to the profile I was using. If this restarts me back in my non-default profile, the Restart Application button will be great. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
On 5/17/2020 9:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: >> On 5/17/2020 7:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: >>> flyguy wrote: >>>> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >>>> >>>> Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser >>>> window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front >>>> page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the >>>> email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory >>>> usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without >>>> closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often >>>> I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the >>>> browser, too. >>> >>> I have a similar problem with SeaMonkey memory usage growing over time. >>> My solution was to add a "restart application" button that I use >>> whenever it starts getting sluggish. This closes and restarts SeaMonkey >>> without losing anything other than the time it takes to restart. >>> >>> Dave >>> >> >> Does the Restart Application button do a full restart? That is, does it >> reload user.js to restore preferences that might have been changed >> during the session? If so, how can I get the Restart Application button? >> > > It appears to do a full restart. You can get it here: > > https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/restart-application-button/?src=ss > > Dave > Thanks. I will try it later today. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
On 5/17/2020 7:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote: > flyguy wrote: >> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >> >> Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser >> window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front >> page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the >> email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory >> usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without >> closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often >> I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the >> browser, too. > > I have a similar problem with SeaMonkey memory usage growing over time. > My solution was to add a "restart application" button that I use > whenever it starts getting sluggish. This closes and restarts SeaMonkey > without losing anything other than the time it takes to restart. > > Dave > Does the Restart Application button do a full restart? That is, does it reload user.js to restore preferences that might have been changed during the session? If so, how can I get the Restart Application button? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> President Trump removed Rick Bright from heading the government's development of a vaccine against the COVID-19 virus. The reason was that Bright would not endorse Trump's assertion that hydroxychloroquine might cure COVID-19. Is it possible that Trump was motivated by his and his family's investments in a major producer of hydroxychloroquine? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Changed Cookies
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Is there an extension compatible with my version SeaMonkey that generates a report on changes to cookies.sqlite? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19 if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)? His administration also eliminated the Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense, the agency within the National Security Council tasked to provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube Problems
On 4/20/2020 11:59 AM, EE wrote: > Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: >> EE wrote: >>> David E. Ross wrote: >>>> On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote: >>>>> Thomas Pamin wrote: >>>>>> YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video >>>>>> icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on >>>>>> Edge. Any help? >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E >>>>> >>>>> I have media.autoplay.enable set to false. I do not allow cookies for >>>>> YouTube. I use a user-agent override with YouTube. >>>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 >>>>> Firefox/62.0 >>>>> >>>>> You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it >>>>> probably does not matter much. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites. Instead, I makr the file >>>> cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only. The Web server thinks it is >>>> setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate >>>> SeaMonkey. >>>> >>> I default to blocking cookies and make exceptions for those that I >>> need. With sites I visit only occasionally, I limit them to session >>> cookies. >>> >> How? I used to do that until Firefox dropped the coding supporting the >> setting of Permissions and Seamonkey had to follow suit. >> > I bookmarked chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul > You can use that to make exceptions to cookie permissions. I am > actually using a cookie manager extension (written for Firefox but run > through the converter) that can make cookie permission exceptions for > the site I am currently viewing. I patched it so that it would also > access cookieViewer.xul. > I use the the Permissions Menu menu list in PrefBar. This is NOT inherent in the installed PrefBar. Instead, you must download it from <http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#permissionsmenu> and import it into PrefBar. It provides the old way of managing cookies, popups, images, and permissions for Web sites to install extensions and updates. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19 if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)? His administration also eliminated the Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense, the agency within the National Security Council tasked to provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube Problems
On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote: > Thomas Pamin wrote: >> YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video >> icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on >> Edge. Any help? >> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E > > I have media.autoplay.enable set to false. I do not allow cookies for > YouTube. I use a user-agent override with YouTube. > Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 > Firefox/62.0 > > You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it > probably does not matter much. > Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites. Instead, I makr the file cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only. The Web server thinks it is setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate SeaMonkey. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19 if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)? His administration also eliminated the Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense, the agency within the National Security Council tasked to provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube Problems
On 4/17/2020 4:16 PM, WaltS48 wrote: > On 4/17/20 7:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 4/17/2020 3:39 PM, Thomas Pamin wrote: >>> YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video >>> icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on >>> Edge. Any help? >>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E >>> >> >> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.5 >> "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled >> Cookies for the requested Web site only >> Popups blocked >> Images from all domains enabled >> HTML5 Media enabled >> "When a web page provides its own colors and background" set to "Always >> use the colors and background specified by the web page." >> >> Looks okay to me. I see both text and images. However, images are >> initially blank and fill in only as I scroll. After scrolling to the >> bottom, the images remain. >> >> I selected one of the links. The video and audio played. >> > > Which link? > "Weather strategy for pilots: improve your preflight and inflight decision making " -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19 if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)? His administration also eliminated the Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense, the agency within the National Security Council tasked to provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
