Re: Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall
David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.not wrote in news:n7mdnrbp0qthphhxnz2dnuvz_o2dn...@mozilla.org: On 8/19/2009 5:17 PM, Dick Baker wrote: In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video audio files. Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer. Why the difference? My notebook shows those three file types in helper apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I get Warning: SM can handle this type internally... The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]: The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the following will be displayed: [the warning about handling this type internally]. Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file types? In some cases, this is not a browser issue. Instead, it relates to the sequence in which the applications were installed. For example, I have both Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader installed. For a long time, PDF files on the Web would open in the writer and not the reader. In setting up a replacement PC, I installed Acrobat first and then Adobe Reader. At that time, the versions of SeaMonkey, Acrobat, and Adobe Reader were all the same as on the old, replaced PC. The problem went away. I experiemented by removing Acrobat and Adobe Reader and then reinstalled them, installing Adobe Reader first and then Acrobat. The problem reappeared. I removed just Adobe Reader and then reinstalled it. The problem went away. Thus, in many cases, the last application installed is the one used. All true, and I, coincidentally, ran across that same Acrobat/Acrobat Reader issue a while back and solved it the same way you did. BUT that's not the case here. The only program I installed on the rebuilt PC that has claimed the .mp3 .wav .mpg association is Windows Media Player. I'd really like to fix this SM anomaly, since its internal player has no utility--no playback controls and, in the case of .mp3 files, no display of the standard mp3 tags. -- Dick Baker (contact via http://goon.org/contact.php) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Odd helper apps behavior after reinstall
In rebuilding after C: drive crash (FYI: three times in 25 year ain't bad, I suppose, twice caused by misbehaving software, once by lightning strike), SM 1.1.17 (Win XP) is misbehaving, in that it insists on opening online WAV and MP3 audio files and mpg/mpeg video files internally, rather than using Windows Media Player, which is my default app for all video audio files. Before the rebuild, it properly invoked WMP for those filetypes, as does the same version of SM on my similarly set-up notebook computer. Why the difference? My notebook shows those three file types in helper apps with the selection open it using the default application (which is WMP), but if I try to install them in the new PC install in helper apps, I get Warning: SM can handle this type internally... The MozillaZine Knowledge Base says (or at least implies), that only very basic filetypes (standard web graphics formats and text files) are handled inernally [discussing adding new MIME types in Helper Apps]: The actions you add will not affect MIME types that are handled internally, which include certain MIME types such as image/jpeg or text/plain [3] and all MIME types that are handled by plugins [4]. Before adding a new action for such MIME types, a Warning dialog similar to the following will be displayed: [the warning about handling this type internally]. Any suggestions on how I can force SM to use WMP for those audio/video file types? -- Dick Baker (contact via http://goon.org/contact.php) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?
Beryl flyingterra...@chillybits.org wrote in news:e--dnqyiglbvp-zxnz2dnuvz_gydn...@mozilla.org: Got a QuickTime applet in the Windows Control Panel? Configure it there. Browser plug-ins and File Type Associations are two different things. Yes, I do, and it led me to the QT preferences window, but just before I saw your note, I had seen another on the WinXP group (the problem affected IE as well as SM, so I asked there as well) directing me to http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Using+the+QuickTime+plugin+with+Firefox That page showed me how to get into the preferences tab on the QT player, where I found that, inexplicably, .mp3 files were still associated with QT, even though I had expressly *deselected* that association when I installed QT. -- Dick Baker (contact via http://goon.org/contact.php) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?
Martin Feitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote in news:h4ce77$cp...@news.albasani.net: Dick Baker schrieb: For years, I've periodically tried installing QT only to be outraged by the fact that it seizes all video audio file associations without asking. Over and over, I've banished it from my PCs. But now, in a moment of weakness (foolishness?), I've bought an iPhone, and it appears that Apple doesn't like PDF help files--it prefers tutorials in *.mov format. So I gingerly tried again to install the latest version of QuickTime Player (7.6.2). To my pleasant surprise, it actually presented an installation option for file and MIME type associations. For both, I deselected *everything* except Apple QT movies (*.mov). And, to my pleasant surprise, it does not seem to have seized any file associations on the computer. BUT when I ran SeaMonkey and went to my twotonbaker.com site and tried to play mp3 files there, I discovered that both SeaMonkey (and, for what it's worth, MSIE) were using QT as the default player for mp3 files, instead of Windows Media Player, which is what I prefer. Thinking I could undo this within SeaMonkey, I went to EditPreferences/NavigatorHelper apps, where I found audio/mpeg = .mp3 = open using default Oddly, it still showed WMP as the default. So I tried to edit that entry to set/reset default as WMP, but it reported, SM can handle this type internally. For such types, a helper app will only be invoked if the server requests external handling. I went ahead and made the choice, but this didn't change anything at twotonbaker.com: mp3s still played by QT. So I got deviously clever: I pulled out my seldom-used Notebook and uninstalled SeaMonkey, including deleting the Mozilla directory under docs settings. I then installed QuickTime, being careful not to let it seize any file associations. And I checked: WMP was still the default app for playing mp3 files. Only then did I reinstall SeaMonkey. And to my surprise and horror, the new installation insisted on opening mp3 files in QuickTime. What in the world is going on? QT can't be rewriting SeaMonkey to tell it to use QT as the mp3 player, because SeaMonkey wasn't there when I installed QT on the notebook. And SeaMonkey isn't getting the mp3=QT association from Windows because it's not there. I am completely flummoxed. You were almost there I guess. But the plugins are installed into the program directory, not the profile-directory in documentssettings. So after uninstalling SM make sure to not have a plugins directory with a quicktime plugin left there in the Seamonkey program directory. Alternatively you can try to find all QT-plugin-files by opening about:plugins (via the address-bar where you type things like www.google.com etc.) in a Seamonkey Browser window. Have a look for all Quicktime Entries there. They always name a filename below their headline. It's very likely that they are named npqtplugin.dll and npqtplugin*.dll (where * is a number from 2 to 5 for example). So find all QT-filenames in your about:plugin-screen, let them search on your harddrive and delete all of them. That should wipe out all Quicktime plugins. Usually the files are located in X:\Program Files\Seamonkey\plugins (where X: is the driveletter of your windows-partition, C: on most computers), mine is in D:\Progs\Seamonkey\Plugins for example. I guess you know where you installed your SM to ;-) kind regards Martin Martin, Thanks for detailed and logical advice, but it didn't work. First, there was no npqt*.dll file under Seamonkey\plugins, so I tried the about:plugins trick, which reported that I had QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.2 installed with the filename npqtplugin.dll. A search of the C: drive for that file discovered two copies, in C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS and C:\Program Files\Quicktime\Plugins I deleted both--and nothing changed! (I also searched for npqt*.* to make sure there wasn't a variant lurking somewhere else.) Both Internet Explorer and SeaMonkey still insist on playing MP3 files with QuickTime. As I mentioned in my first note, Windows Media Player is the program associated with MP3 in Windows, so what in the heck is QT doing to force the browsers to use it? -- Dick Baker (contact via http://goon.org/contact.php) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?
For years, I've periodically tried installing QT only to be outraged by the fact that it seizes all video audio file associations without asking. Over and over, I've banished it from my PCs. But now, in a moment of weakness (foolishness?), I've bought an iPhone, and it appears that Apple doesn't like PDF help files--it prefers tutorials in *.mov format. So I gingerly tried again to install the latest version of QuickTime Player (7.6.2). To my pleasant surprise, it actually presented an installation option for file and MIME type associations. For both, I deselected *everything* except Apple QT movies (*.mov). And, to my pleasant surprise, it does not seem to have seized any file associations on the computer. BUT when I ran SeaMonkey and went to my twotonbaker.com site and tried to play mp3 files there, I discovered that both SeaMonkey (and, for what it's worth, MSIE) were using QT as the default player for mp3 files, instead of Windows Media Player, which is what I prefer. Thinking I could undo this within SeaMonkey, I went to EditPreferences/NavigatorHelper apps, where I found audio/mpeg = .mp3 = open using default Oddly, it still showed WMP as the default. So I tried to edit that entry to set/reset default as WMP, but it reported, SM can handle this type internally. For such types, a helper app will only be invoked if the server requests external handling. I went ahead and made the choice, but this didn't change anything at twotonbaker.com: mp3s still played by QT. So I got deviously clever: I pulled out my seldom-used Notebook and uninstalled SeaMonkey, including deleting the Mozilla directory under docs settings. I then installed QuickTime, being careful not to let it seize any file associations. And I checked: WMP was still the default app for playing mp3 files. Only then did I reinstall SeaMonkey. And to my surprise and horror, the new installation insisted on opening mp3 files in QuickTime. What in the world is going on? QT can't be rewriting SeaMonkey to tell it to use QT as the mp3 player, because SeaMonkey wasn't there when I installed QT on the notebook. And SeaMonkey isn't getting the mp3=QT association from Windows because it's not there. I am completely flummoxed. -- Dick Baker (contact via http://goon.org/contact.php) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
