Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

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David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now 
- before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of 
fixing this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are 
some other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the 
home-page would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?



Would be nice if I could add a pref-bar button for this.  Just tried it 
and went from 2.1G to 1.2G here.


Dave


Put the bookmark on the bookmarks toolbar.

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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now - 
before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, how 
do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to non-responsive 
after a few hours and the least intrusive way of fixing this is to do a 
full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are some 
other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the home-page 
would also be helpful.



Bookmark it.  You can then click the bookmark.
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Re: Anchors do not work in ModSecurity reference manual

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mike wrote:

Hi,

in
https://github.com/SpiderLabs/ModSecurity/wiki/Reference-Manual-%28v2.x%29
anchors do not work with SeaMonkey, i.e. clicking on a link does not
jump to the corresponding section. It works with Firefox, though.

The anchors do not work with Pale Moon either, but they do work with 
chromium browsers and Safari.


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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

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meagain wrote:

This site will tell you about your browser:
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/


Interesting page.  I tried it with a few fake user-agents from User 
Agent Switcher and it identifies Firefox (from SeaMonkey's core) every 
time but gets the platform from the fake.


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Re: Blocking spam

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Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
I don't know if that will work with emails or not.  Have never tried it 
so may be totally wrong.  For web stuff it sends anything from the 
offending domain to 127.0.0.1, effectively null space, so I never see it.


The way that works is that a request from the browser goes nowhere. 
There is code on a web page telling the browser to fetch something that 
you do not want.  Give that hostname the IP number 127.0.0.1 and the 
browser request goes back to the same computer, not to the internet.


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/15/2021 11:49 PM, Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 16/2/21 6:28 am:

On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, rodney wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.


A better way is to delete the old entries in pref.js.
Do this when SeaMonkey is closed.
Use Notepad or similar editor such as Komodo edit.
Don't use Microsoft's script editor or Word.
If you're uncomfortable do this, make a backup copy.



With 40+ years of experience, first as a programmer and then as a
software tester, I am far more comfortable using programmed capabilities
within a program (e.g., about:config) than tweaking raw data (e.g.,
prefs.js).  Not in this case but in others, tweaking raw data might
bypass necessary housekeeping that would be done though programmed
capabilities.


Hmm! I always thought "about:config" and "prefs.js" were just two
different ways to see, basically, the same information, one with-in the
program, one outside the program.

Am I wrong??



You SEE the same information.  With about:config, however, the software
limits you to screwing up only one entry at a time, limited to a small
set of actions.  Editing prefs.js allows you to screw up a whole bunch
of entries all at once, limited only by the capabilities of the text
editor you are using.

With prefs.js, you see only the settings you changed (or the application 
changed).  With about:config, you see the default settings as well as 
the altered settings.


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/14/2021 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

About:config can I delete some entries? I was in about:config making a
new entry. I then scrolled thru the complete file and I saw some some
old printer settings a printed that I have not had for may years. There
where 150 entries for that printer that no longer in use. The entry are
like this "print.printer_HP_Photosmart_C6200_IP.print_bgcolor ;false",
and print.print_printer;HP Photosmart C6200 series, can I just delete
them? And if I can delete them how do I go about it, I see that you can
modify, copy, or create new but no delete.

Thank all for you input on this,

Danny


One of the menu options on an about:config entry is Reset.  You will not
see the entry disappear when you use that option.  In many cases,
however, the entry will disappear when you terminate SeaMonkey.

Unfortunately, you have to reset each entry one at a time.

You can check the entry again after reloading about:config.  The entry 
should be gone after reset if it is no longer valid.


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Re: Help! In V.2.53.6 ebay pictures in emails are no longer displayed

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Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Note that that make break other sites, so you can make it specific
to ebay if you want to:
general.useragent.override.www.ebay.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

Etc.


Why not make the version in rv match the Firefox version?  That is the 
way the default works anyhow.  Also, since it is an override, why not 
remove the SeaMonkey version from end of the user-agent?


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Re: Unable to use SeaMonkey v2.53.6's places.sqlite in Firefox v85.

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Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 30/01/2021 09:07, Ant wrote:
... How can I use/import my SeaMonkey's places.sqlite to use in the 
(lat/new)est Firefox like in the past? I don't want to use Firefox's 
Sync.

...


Your problem is  
which remove Places migration from versions older than Firefox 60.


 From the accompanying commit 
, 
we can see that the previous migration cut-off was schema v35/FF52 and 
the commit advances it to schema v43/FF52.


The simplest solution is to use FF78ESR, at least until the next ESR 
version replaces it. As you have chosen to be a "permanent beta" tester, 
that probably isn't a good answer and won't be in the long term anyway.


How about this? Have a scrap installation of FF78ESR (or later, as many 
Firefoxes as you need to bridge from SM 2.x to a bleeding edge FF). 
Close SM, copy places.sqlite to a profile in FF78ESR, run that FF with 
that profile, close it, copy the new places.sqlite to FF85 (or later, to 
a subsequent ESR and repeat until you have a compatible version).


Alternatively (for a higher degree of difficulty), reviewing the SQL 
that was removed in the commit (in Database::MigrateV36Up() through to 
Database::MigrateV43Up()) could enable one to create a SQLite database 
script that upgrades the schema used in places.sqlite from v35 to a 
compatible version.


/df

Why not just either export the bookmarks as html or back them up as 
sqlite from SeaMonkey and either import them or restore them into 
Firefox?  That would not help with the history, but the bookmarks will 
be preserved.


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Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking

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Bret Busby wrote:

Forwarded to list, as reply did not default to list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bret Busby 
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:00:20 +0800
Subject: Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and
tracking blocking
To: Rubens 

On 29/01/2021, Rubens via support-seamonkey
 wrote:





It is not plugins, but extensions that do the ad and tracking blocking.
uBlock Origin still works well with SeaMonkey.



Same here.



ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or
Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified.


You need to use the legacy version of uBlock Origin with SeaMonkey (and 
Pale Moon).

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

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Re: Ctrl-D window size

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Ray Davison wrote:

EE wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:


If the above is true, then somewhere the size and location are hard 
coded.  Therefore size and position are editable.  Where and how?


I changed the size of the bookmarks panel and the bookmarks manager 
window with code in a userChrome.css file.


That answers my where question, now how?

Ray


This is the code I used:

/* Increase size/height of the expanded bookmarks panel */
#editBookmarkPanel {
min-width: 360px !important; min-height: 550px !important;}
#editBMPanel_folderTree {
min-width:360px !important; min-height:580px !important;}
#bookmarkproperties, #places {
min-width:800px !important; min-height:850px !important;}

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking

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Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am running
"
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6

Build identifier: 20210118013008
"
on UbuntuMATE Linux 20.10.

Seamonkey does not allow ad blocking plugins like Adblock Plus and 
Adblock Ultimate, etc, that are allowed by Firefox, and, a plugin name 
"Bluehell Firewall" that apparently does ad blocking and tracking 
blocking, is "not compatible with your version of Seamonkey.


A strip had been appearing across the top of the window, for a 
particular web site, and, it had displayed
"Parts of the page that track your online activity were blocked Blocking>"


In using a wireless mouse, that goes to sleep, when not in use, and, 
which requires to be clicked, to awaken it, in one instance, after 
logging in to the computer again, and, clicking the mouse, to awaken it, 
it apparently clicked on the "Unblock" option, which was then, 
implemented without confirmation being requested, and, I cannot restore 
the tracking blocking for that web site, and, so, now, I have even more 
problems with that web site, more than usual. It is one of those web 
site that can be useful when it behaves itself, but, is otherwise, 
problematic (and, apparently, as is revealed, a bit malicious).


The strip across the top of the window, no longer appears for that web 
site, and, in going into the web browser preferences, I can not find a 
way to restore the ad  blocking and tracking blocking, for that web site.


Why is Seamonkey blocking the ad blocking and he tracking blocking?

Why does Seamonkey not allow the plugins that  have mentioned, to work 
with this version of Seamonkey?


In that strip that no longer is displayed for that web site, on another 
web page, where the strip is displayed (sinister state government 
parliamentary web site), clicking on the Preferences button in the 
strip, to find whether I can remove the unblocking for the offending 
URL, has no effect; the "Preferences" button only takes me to the 
Preferences -> Privacy & Security menu.


And, in the Preferences -> Privacy & Security menu, are the two options;
"()Prevent tracking activities by known sites
() Warn me when known tracking activities were detected"
with the second option being able to be implemented, only when the first 
option is implemented.


But, unchecking both of those, and, then, checking them again, does not 
restore the ad blocking and tracking blocking, where it was 
inadvertently unblocked.


And, no option is apparent, for listing/editing blocked or unblocked web 
sites or URL's.


It is not plugins, but extensions that do the ad and tracking blocking. 
uBlock Origin still works well with SeaMonkey.


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Re: Ctrl-D window size

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Ray Davison wrote:
I have 2.35.5 with a fresh profile.  The only change I have made is to 
import a bookmark file.


This is the Ctrl-D window I get.  I can neither resize nor move it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/dWt8x6whc8v9z2RQ9

It was suggested that is the default size, and is designed to be 
no-sizable or movable.  Is that true?  If so isn't that a unique window?


If the above is true, then somewhere the size and location are hard 
coded.  Therefore size and position are editable.  Where and how?


Actually the previous version was a bit strange.  I could re-size 
horizontal but it was full screen height and I could not shrink it 
vertically; I could move it down off-screen, but could not move it up to 
get a cursor under it.  But I needed the height so I didn't mind.


Ray

I changed the size of the bookmarks panel and the bookmarks manager 
window with code in a userChrome.css file.


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Re: How so I make Seamonkey use the system default browser (chrome)?

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flyguy wrote:
I've set Chrome as my system default, but Seamonkey still shows and uses 
Seamonkey's browser. How do I get it to use Chrome when I click links in 
Seamonkey mail? Please note that I've been using Seamonkey for decades - 
this is not a newbie's uninformed question.


I think you would need to change some settings in about:config for 
network protocol external handlers.  I am not certain about which ones 
would be essential for that.  Possibly:


network.protocol-handler.external.ps -> true
network.protocol-handler.external.tps -> true
network.protocol-handler.external.ttp -> true
network.protocol-handler.external.ttps -> true

You would need to experiment to see which are needed.
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

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Jonathan N. Little wrote:

This German site reliably and consistently hard crashes SeaMonkey



Tried in safe-mode but page crashes too suddenly to id the issue. This
is will Windows 10 2004. Try with Ubuntu 16.04 managed to get the
busy-script dialog and seemed to point to JavaScript standard JQuery
v3.4.1. A minimized library so difficult to debug.

I see there is another update to 2.53.5.1 so will see if that fixes it.


I just read that page and there was no problem with MacOS.
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Re: Images don't display on Costco emails

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William Greenwood wrote:

What setting do I need to adjust?
Have you examined Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message Display?  Is 
"Block images and other content from remote sources" checked?

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Re: Compacting Folders

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🐴 Mr. Ed 🐴 wrote:

Win 10  Sm 2.53.5.1

Noticed that I no longer see the message signifying that the folders are being
compacted.
Are they being compacted?


I am seeing that in the status bar.

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Any way to get gmail to work with SeaMonkey?

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I have tried to get gmail to send messages to SeaMonkey, but it only 
returns an error message.  I have set the prot numbers for IMAP and SMTP 
correctly for gmail and used 0auth2 for the authentication, but it still 
will not work.  What else is necessary?

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Re: book marks

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/2/2020 5:00 AM, jensd6...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,
I cant anymore add or delete book marks (favorites). Also there are no any 
records in the chronic.
I tried everything (new installation and so on), but no change.
I need help so solve it.
Thank you in advance.
Jens



What is "chronic"?


Chronic is an adjective, not a noun.  It means long-lasting.

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Re: Seamonkey and imgur.com

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Jonathan Wilson wrote:
Does anyone know how I can get imgur images to work in SeaMonkey? All I 
get when I visit such a URL is a blank screen. I tried user-agent 
overrides to identify as Firefox but that did nothing.
Works fine in several other web browsers I have available on this PC, 
just not SeaMonkey.

I tried with adblock disabled as well and that didn't help so its not that.


For me, imgur does not work at all.  The developer of Pale Moon 
suggested imgBB as a replacement.  https://imgbb.com/

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Re: That old bug-bear .... User Agent sniffing, I think

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Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote on 28/10/20 16:33:

EE wrote on 28/10/2020 6:06 AM:

Daniel wrote:
I've received a letter from one of my Superannuation companies 
telling me they have lost me postal address (so how were they able 
to send me a letter?? The idiots!!) so I went to their website but 
was unable to log in because they didn't accept my SM 2.49.5, so 
I've set up a User Agent override, I hope, telling them I'm using 
FF/78. but that failed as well, so I'm asking is


general.useragent.complesOverride.ioof.com.au,userset,string,Firefox/78.0 



correctly formatted?? If the company is IOOF, might capitalising the 
ioof help/be necessary??


Any suggestions, please!


The new string name would be:
general.useragent.override.ioof.com.au
and the new value would be:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0

O.K., so you're suggesting the 'complex' is unnecessary and the 
'override' should all be lower case. O.K., I'm game!


Done! When I later re-boot into Linux, I'll see if it works. Thanks.


general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

and

general.useragent.override.ioof.com.au;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
WOW64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0


still fail to get me into the site. When I attempt to log in, I'm warned 
that my SM might not be suitable but can click to accept the warning and 
that brings up a blank screen with "Done" at the bottom left of my SM 
screen.


Any further ideas??


Are these people using javascript to dig out the navigator information? 
If so, their setup can recognize that the user-agent sent by the browser 
is a fake.  You could try user-agent switcher and fill in all the blanks 
for that particular fake, in which case the fake would be convincing.
  Yhe other thing you could do is just use a different browser.  Any 
chromium browser (that claims to be Chrome) should be fine.  Brave and 
Slimjet are chromium browsers but do not spy on you as Chrome does.  You 
could try that.

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Re: Cursor resident time on menues ?

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DoctorBill wrote:

.
I use the BOOKMARKS Menu A LOT.

If I do not get the cursor to the next Sub-Menu quickly enough (I am 77 
and my reaction

times are getting slow), the menu DISAPPEARS and I have to start over.

Is there a setting in SeaMonkey (That I can get at) to slow down the 
Cursor's going
back to the beginning ?  Don't know how else to explain it.  "Reaction 
Time" ?

"Resident Time" ?   "Wait Time" ?

DoctorBill


In about:config, I set up a delay to slow the response to submanus down 
a bit.

ui.submenuDelay set to 800
The delay is in milliseconds, to that amounts to .8 second.  You can 
change that to suit.


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Re: That old bug-bear .... User Agent sniffing, I think

[EE]

Daniel wrote:
I've received a letter from one of my Superannuation companies telling 
me they have lost me postal address (so how were they able to send me a 
letter?? The idiots!!) so I went to their website but was unable to log 
in because they didn't accept my SM 2.49.5, so I've set up a User Agent 
override, I hope, telling them I'm using FF/78. but that failed as well, 
so I'm asking is


general.useragent.complesOverride.ioof.com.au,userset,string,Firefox/78.0

correctly formatted?? If the company is IOOF, might capitalising the 
ioof help/be necessary??


Any suggestions, please!


The new string name would be:
general.useragent.override.ioof.com.au
and the new value would be:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0


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Re: 2.53.4 release

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Wim van Helden wrote:

All,

All

Perhaps I did something wrong, ( did not not use any additional language packs, 
but I used the official Dutch release of the previous version). What it may be: 
I cannot get my local language (Dutch) installed in the latest release. Is 
there a way out? Hope there is

Regards,

Wim


Why not just get the Dutch version here?
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
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Re: No Images On One Site

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Thomas Pamin wrote:
Anyone know why images don't load on this site. They used to. Safe Mode 
doesn't change it.

https://flightsim.to/


The page says it is under development.

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Re: No Youtube with SM 2.53.4

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12...@yahoo.co.nz wrote:
Just installed the above on a W7 machine, can connect to Youtube, 
placeholders for the recommeded videos appear, but that's about it. 
There is nothing clicable on the page. Not even the filter button will 
work.


What the heck is going on!? And this is not the beta version, it's the 
standard relaese.


I set up a user-agent override in about:config, claiming to be Firefox 
60.  That works so far.
general.useragent.override.youtube.com set as Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; 
Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0

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Re: SM 2.53.4 not loading Bissell website

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flyguy wrote:

EE wrote on 10/7/2020 11:40 AM:

flyguy wrote:
SM 2.53.4 won't load https://www.bissell.com/ - the status message is 
Read www.bissell.com


Chrome loads it immediately. What could the problem be?

Here's another one that won't load, yet works properly in Chrome:

https://wingsandwheels.com/

Instead of the website, "403 Forbidden nginx" is displayed. The 
website worked in SM a couple months ago, but hasn't recently, with 
either 2.53.4 or 2.49.3


That first item is not even a web page.  It is a script.
The second one gives me the same result: forbidden.


Chrome and Edge both load a website for the first, so it seems to be real.

I suspected the second one (wingsandwheels) was ignoring SM, and that 
appears to be the case.




The bissel.com item is not regular HTML.  The first tag was a script 
tag, and the last line had an end script tag.  It was not proper HTML code.


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Re: SM 2.53.4 not loading Bissell website

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flyguy wrote:
SM 2.53.4 won't load https://www.bissell.com/ - the status message is 
Read www.bissell.com


Chrome loads it immediately. What could the problem be?

Here's another one that won't load, yet works properly in Chrome:

https://wingsandwheels.com/

Instead of the website, "403 Forbidden nginx" is displayed. The website 
worked in SM a couple months ago, but hasn't recently, with either 
2.53.4 or 2.49.3


That first item is not even a web page.  It is a script.
The second one gives me the same result: forbidden.
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Re: Form does not display in grupohla.com

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AndrésH wrote:

Daniel escribió:

EE wrote on 6/10/2020 5:20 AM:

AndrésH wrote:
The following form https://www.grupohla.com/es/contact doesn't 
display in SM 2.53.4


The 2 checkboxes don't display in SM. In Pale moon e.g. they display 
and I can use the form .


I do not see any checkboxes on that page with any browser.  I see 
only text boxes in a form.


In my Win7 SM install, if I scroll down the page, I see check-boxes 
for "Quiero que mis datos sean procesados con fines comerciales o 
publicitarios" and "He leido y acepto la Política de Privacidad" and a 
button labelled "ENVAIR".


Not reading/understanding the language, I didn't check either box or 
press the button so don't know if they actually achieve anything.
The 2 sentences say the typical "I do authorize the use of my data for 
commercial and advertisements" and "I have read and accept privacy policy".


And both have a checkbox . I attach a screenshot wit Pale Moon


There is text below the form, but not with checkboxes next to the text.

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Re: Form does not display in grupohla.com

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AndrésH wrote:
The following form https://www.grupohla.com/es/contact doesn't display 
in SM 2.53.4


The 2 checkboxes don't display in SM. In Pale moon e.g. they display and 
I can use the form .


I do not see any checkboxes on that page with any browser.  I see only 
text boxes in a form.


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Re: Change

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Larry S. wrote:
What changed? On the monitor, when listing messages (mail or news), I 
now see an area on the right for events (today and future). In addition, 
the symbol where I could click to review my log-ins, etc., has disappeared.


Something happened that caused this change. What was it? Help!

Larry
That is Lightning.  It comes with SeaMonkey these days.  You can remove 
it if you fo not like it.  I did that with SM 2.53.1 and it has never 
come back.


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Re: My "Autoplay On/Off" plugin stopped working

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DoctorBill wrote:

EE wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/14/20 12:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

If was "OFF" by default - so now I cannot turn in on...  (TYPO)

IT (Autoplay) was off by default.    Since Autoplay isn't working - 
I cannot

turn Videos on now !

DB




Tried disabling or removing the extension?



Been so long ago - I don't know HOW to do that !
My files for programs are a MAZE of mostly unreadable garbage.
What is what ?

What a shame - that was such a good "toggle" to stop Websites from 
playing

annoying Videos w/o being asked first !

How can I tell if it was a Plugin or an extension ?  I see no 
intelligible name in the SeaMonkey Extensions File.  Would it be 
this: {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi ?


DB


Pull down Tools menu > Add-ons Manager > Extensions and from there 
disable or remove the extension that no longer works.



There are NO Extensions in that menu !

DB


If there are no extensions listed at all, you do not have any.  If you 
have any plugins, there should be a category that says "Plugins" and you 
could check that as well.


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Re: My "Task-Bar" disappeared after installing a Mozilla Addon !

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DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had a Taskbar with various things on it and when I installed a Mozilla
Addon (AutoPlay Toggle), the TaskBar has disappeared !

Where are addons controlled ?

DoctorBill


PrefBar - that was the name of it.
I finally found it in the ADDons Manager - turned OFF !
When I loaded the Mozilla "AutoOn/OFF" thing, it boogered up what I was 
using !

WHY ?  This sucks quite a lot !  I am trying not to SWEAR here right now !
Why would adding that Auto-on/off go in and change my setup ?  MOZILLA ?!

DoctorBill


Try a different autoplay toggle.  There is a restartless one in the 
Thunderbird addons site that causes no problems.


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Re: Videos on svt.se

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Göran Holmgren wrote:

Suse Leap 15.2, Seamonkey 2.53.3.

No videos work on the news site https://www.svt.se/.
With Firefox or Google chrome, there are no problems.
Some thoughts?
Glad for all the help I can get.

Göran


The videos work better with Pale Moon.

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Re: Backup of Seamonkey

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NFN Smith wrote:

Barbara Burns wrote:
I am new to Seamonkey and when installing was told to backup. Not sure 
if that is only for prior versions. Thank you





That's useful to do for all versions, especially just before updating.

Assuming Windows, what you need is to get a copy of %APPDATA%\Seamonkey. 
  If using the Windows Explorer, you can enter that into the address 
bar, to find the necessary data.  Or if your backup tool supports 
specifying things by environment variable, make sure you include that 
folder.


Smith

You can find the profile from Help menu > Troubleshooting Information 
and back it up once the location is in the file manager, whatever one it 
is (dependent on the platform).


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Re: My "Autoplay On/Off" plugin stopped working

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DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/14/20 12:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

If was "OFF" by default - so now I cannot turn in on...  (TYPO)

IT (Autoplay) was off by default.    Since Autoplay isn't working - I 
cannot

turn Videos on now !

DB




Tried disabling or removing the extension?



Been so long ago - I don't know HOW to do that !
My files for programs are a MAZE of mostly unreadable garbage.
What is what ?

What a shame - that was such a good "toggle" to stop Websites from playing
annoying Videos w/o being asked first !

How can I tell if it was a Plugin or an extension ?  I see no 
intelligible name in the SeaMonkey Extensions File.  Would it be this:   
{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi ?


DB


Pull down Tools menu > Add-ons Manager > Extensions and from there 
disable or remove the extension that no longer works.


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Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!

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NFN Smith wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Hmm! Ray, I just clicked on your link, with, I believe, my stock 
standard SM 2.49.5 UA showing, and basically got a Blank Screen 
... with a scroll-bar down the right hand side. So I scrolled 
waaa down, and got an ad for the Pixel 4a "Your Pixel 4a comes 
with 3 months of Google One.".


Is this what people are missing?? Or is there supposed to be something 
in all that blank screen??


I just took another look at that link, and I confirm that content is 
showing if you do a lot of scrolling, I do see the expected content, 
even if not quite rendering in the way that Google expects it.


I'm running 2.53.3.

Smith


The funny thing about that link is that Slimjet did not work but Vivaldi 
did.  Both are chromium browsers, both use the Blink rendering engine, 
and both identify themselves as Chrome.


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Re: My "Autoplay On/Off" plugin stopped working

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DoctorBill wrote:

I have had an "AUTOPLAY on/off" extention (plugin?) for a long time.
It worked fine.  Today it stopped working !  No apparent reason.
Using Windows 7 - with AutoUpdate Turned OFF - so it can't be screwed
with by MicroSoft.  If was "OFF" by default - so now I cannot turn in on...

I use Autoplay Off to stop FoxNews "Movies" from starting when I am
perusing the "News" - lol.

DoctorBill


Plugins and extensions are not the same thing.
The extension I use to toggle autoplay is Autoplay Toggle 
(Non-Restartless).  You can get it from addons.thunderbird.net.


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Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!

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Danny Kile wrote:

Tried to access the following website
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a

Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then 
I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet 
Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and 
it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it 
to run in SeaMonkey?



Danny
That page works with Vivaldi, but not with Slimjet.  Interesting, since 
they are both chromium browsers with the Blink rendering engine, and 
both identify themselves as Chrome.  It works with Safari, which does 
not identify itself as Chrome.


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Re: Seeking replacement for Firefox... considering Seamonkey

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Bob wrote:

I've used Seamonkey in the past, and really liked the way I could work on my 'personal' 
website with the software.  I stopped using it when it was declared "obsolete" 
a few years ago.

I am being forced to abandon Firefox, which I've been using for around 15 years 
now (and really liked, until the later iterations).  I work from home, and 
absolutely CANNOT have software automatically install updates and force me to 
shut down (without being able to access another website to alert people).  I've 
tried all of the tricks I could find to prevent automatic installation of 
updates, but nothing has worked, and I do NOT want to loose my job because of 
the programmers refusing to listen to reason.

(1):  Can I LOCK OUT automatic installation of updates?  I MUST be able to 
choose when updating happens.

(2): How up-to-date is Seamonkey kept?  I already have strong security on my 
system, but need to avoid security holes.

(3) How easy is it now to migrate Bookmarks, passwords, and so on?

(4): "Bonus" question - is the composer still part of Seamonkey?

I use Ubuntu 18:04 LTS - switched to it around the time I abandoned Office and 
IE (for security and other valid reasons).

Thanks!

Bob

I like SeaMonkey, and I also like Pale Moon.  You might want to try that 
one as well.


You can block automatic updates of the application and of the add-ons as 
well.  For the add-ons, you can allow updates (by clicking something) 
but block automatic updates.  I found the easiest way to do that was to 
go into about:config and look up "update".


It seems to me that Pale Moon is a bit more up-to-date as far as 
security is concerned, but i like both.


It is very easy to export bookmarks from one browser and import them 
into any other browser.  For passwords, you need the encryption key 
(key4.db) as well as the logins.json file.


The composer is still part of SeaMOnkey but it is not up-to=date.

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Re: Slow Scrolling

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Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 30-08-20 20:54:

Tom Pamin wrote:
Very slow to scroll down web pages with SM lately (on more than one 
PC). Edge works fine. Any ideas?


You could try smooth scrolling.  I prefer that because it is less 
jumpy that way.



How to smooth scroll ? Is it an SM option/parameter ?


Preferences > Appearance > Content > "Use smooth scrolling"

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Re: Slow Scrolling

[EE]

Tom Pamin wrote:
Very slow to scroll down web pages with SM lately (on more than one PC). 
Edge works fine. Any ideas?


You could try smooth scrolling.  I prefer that because it is less jumpy 
that way.


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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

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Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA



You can use cut & paste.  Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste.

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Re: Folder Sorting Assistance SM 2.53.3 Win 10 Pro

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EE wrote:

Samuel S wrote:

Hello all - can anyone advise how I can sort folders?

The Add On 'Manually Sort Folders' does not work...

TIA - bo1953


If it is just folders and not subscriptions you want to rearrange, 
Folderpane Tools works.  You can get it at addons.thunderbird.net.  It 
is a Thunderbird extension, so you would need to run it through the 
converter site first.

http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/


Looks as if Folderpane Tools does not work any more.  It has been a 
while since I last had to use it.  Manually Sort Folders does work to 
sort folders, but not the subscriptions.  You can drag and drop those.


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Re: Folder Sorting Assistance SM 2.53.3 Win 10 Pro

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Samuel S wrote:

Hello all - can anyone advise how I can sort folders?

The Add On 'Manually Sort Folders' does not work...

TIA - bo1953


If it is just folders and not subscriptions you want to rearrange, 
Folderpane Tools works.  You can get it at addons.thunderbird.net.  It 
is a Thunderbird extension, so you would need to run it through the 
converter site first.

http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
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Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

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Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Ray Davison wrote:


Nuno Silva wrote:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DzS3F7wST8xFsyWE9


Just to rule out extensions, can you check if this also happens (in
2.53.x) if you start SeaMonkey in SeaMonkey's safe mode?


I added one pic; 2.53.3 safe mode.

I now have a window that seems to have all the parts, but is very
small both directions.  I cannot move or resize it.


By any chance, did you set privacy.resist.fingerprinting to true?  I had 
a problem with window sizes and also a weird unchangeable user-agent 
with that setting.  I had to change it to false.

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Re: No more images shown on IMGUR

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Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi all,

since today my  installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 2.53.5 
beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 Build 20200727210001 (Default Classic Theme) on German WIN7 
64bit has stopped to show single pictures on IMGUR.


Steps how to reproduce:
1. Open https://imgur.com/ in newly created User Profile
    » Shows overview of pictures
2. Click Arbitrary picture of movie like
    
    » Expected: single picture or movie view
  Actual: Black Page. Page Info / Media only shows
  some small Icons, but they also are invisible.

Changing User Agent String without success for now.

Can you reproduce that problem?
Any Ideas concerning roots or WORKAROUND?

CU

Rainer


Imgur does not work for me at all.  If someone posts an image there and 
leaves a link to it, I follow the link, and see no image.


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Re: Does your SM v2.53.3 get very slow and unresponsolve after using & logging off Gmail.com?

[EE]

Edward wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:


Sounds like you are swapping a lot.  How much memory do you have?  For
example my current SM 2.53.5 is using 2.2G of memory out of 32G on my
linux mint 18.3 x64 system.

If you are swapping hard the only solution is more memory or closing out
other programs to free up memory.  If your memory is maxed out and you
are still swapping you will need to upgrade your hardware.

Keep in mind that web sites today are bloated pigs compared to what they
used to be.  Not much else can be done about it.

Dave
I posted in another thread about SeaMonkey getting slow when it began 
use the Linux Swap space. It began to slow down once it started using Swap.



When I was using Windows, I found that everything slowed down if the 
swap file got fragmented.  I was able to move it to the beginning of 
another partition on the hard drive so that it would not be fragmented, 
and windows was more efficient after that.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[EE]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



EE wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:


Lance


Why use Chrome?  It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to 
Google. I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it.  I have 
other chromium browsers, but not Chrome.




If you use Pale Moon you can continue using SeaMonkey. Waste of time if 
you are after web compatibility with newer sites.


FRG

I use both.  I found I was using Pale Moon more for browsing, so I made 
it my default.  I think the two of them are diverging somewhat.  Some 
pages that do not work properly with SeaMonkey now work with Pale Moon.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web browser. 
I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape Navigator, 
then SM.  However, I have become overwhelmed by the quantity and 
complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and kluges, each 
constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function on a wide 
variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden.  SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all this 
to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but it 
has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome?  It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to 
Google.  I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it.  I have 
other chromium browsers, but not Chrome.


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Re: Is there a way to make SM confirm my ^Q (exit SM) hotkeys to quit it?

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Ant wrote:

On 8/13/2020 12:31 PM, EE wrote:

Once in a while I accidently press them instead of ^W (close 
current tab) in the middle of something. Relaunching with restored 
sessions don't always remember my form inputs and logins. It's 
quite annoying. :(


You want to do a restart instead of shutting SeaMonkey down?  If you 
get Chromedit Plus, it gives you a restart button.  It is also handy 
to edit userChrome.css, userContent.css, and user.js if you have them.


No, I don't want SM to exit without asking me to confirm it like in 
Firefox with ctrl-q hot keys.


If you have more than one tab open, you should be asked if you really 
want to quit.


It doesn't even though I have "Warn me when closing a window with 
multiple tabs"'s box is checked. Maybe a bug since it happens 64-bit W7 
HPE SP1, Debian Jessie v8, and mac OS Mojave v10.14.6? :/


No idea.  It works for me, but I have MacOS.

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Re: Is there a way to make SM confirm my ^Q (exit SM) hotkeys to quit it?

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Ant wrote:

On 8/12/2020 12:23 PM, EE wrote:

Ant wrote:
Once in a while I accidently press them instead of ^W (close current 
tab) in the middle of something. Relaunching with restore sessions 
don't always remember my form inputs and logins. It's quite annoying. :(


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


You want to do a restart instead of shutting SeaMonkey down?  If you 
get Chromedit Plus, it gives you a restart button.  It is also handy 
to edit userChrome.css, userContent.css, and user.js if you have them.


No, I don't want SM to exit without asking me to confirm it like in 
Firefox with ctrl-q hot keys.


If you have more than one tab open, you should be asked if you really 
want to quit.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 Won't Open

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Michael F. Simon wrote:
I installed SeaMonkey 2.53.3 on my iMac running Catalina. After putting 
it in the Applications folder, double clicking it produced an Alert. How 
can I download a copy which Apple will allow to open?


Thanks.

Mike Simon
Portage MI


Right-click the icon and choose "open".  You might have to put in an 
admin login.


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Re: Is there a way to make SM confirm my ^Q (exit SM) hotkeys to quit it?

[EE]

Ant wrote:
Once in a while I accidently press them instead of ^W (close current 
tab) in the middle of something. Relaunching with restore sessions don't 
always remember my form inputs and logins. It's quite annoying. :(


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


You want to do a restart instead of shutting SeaMonkey down?  If you get 
Chromedit Plus, it gives you a restart button.  It is also handy to edit 
userChrome.css, userContent.css, and user.js if you have them.


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Re: Access Denied - CarMax.com

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Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-07-29, Danny Kile wrote:


Going to carmax.com I get the following error:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.carmax.com/"; on this server.

Reference #18.2d891ab8.1596029342.1765be0e

I works just fine with Chrome.

What is my solution? Thank you!



That is blacklisting by Akamai. I'm afraid I don't know the details of
why it might fail with a specific browser/profile and work with others
on the same machine - I can only guess cookies, javascript or the
user-agent string may be involved, but it could be something else.

I doubt that it is any of the above.  I blocked cookies and disabled 
javascript, and I use the normal SeaMonkey user-agent with Firefox 
compatibility info, and the page works for me.


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Re: The website mozillaes.org has gone

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jcteyssier wrote:

AndrésH a écrit :

Hello,

The website mozillaes.org has gone. I receive a page from godday.com 
that the domain mozilles.org has not been renewed.


Is there in this newsgroup from the spanish community that can inform 
me if this is permanent.


Best regards

Por si hay algún español en este foro, quisiera saber qué ha pasado 
con mozillaes.org. Desde hace unos días me aparece una página que dice 
que no se ha renovado el dominio y está aparcado hasta que se pague la 
renovación.
Quisiera saber si las personas que llevaban esa web han tirado la 
toalla y debo buscar otro foro en español para enterarme de las 
novedades de seamonkey.


Un saludo

Same thing for frenchmozzilla.fr: someone forget to renew registrations...
mozilla.org still alive.


If you spelled Mozilla correctly, you would find it is still there.

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Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER

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meagain wrote:

 Original Message 
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 7:05:25 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston, TX 
wrote:

Marion Walther wrote:
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 4:51:51 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston, TX 
wrote:

Marion Walther wrote:
I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access 
anything. Cannot even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to 
go to Firefox to do my banking. I have used SeaMonkey since 
NetScape and have my own domain so I want to continue my email 
client in SM.

Try making the SM UA override the same as with the FF that works.
You can make it bank specific if necessary.


Thank you Paul. Apology...I am new here and I don't know how to 
reply directly to
you. So I just clicked on reply all. David gave me a US Bank UA. 
Didn't work but it was Windows NT10. I use Windows 7. Do I need to 
change it to 7?

The Win 10 one should work ok... if it works at all.
Win 7 is actually NT6.1.

Have you installed any blockers or add-ons?


Yes...Shockwave Flash - disabled
Flash Got
Modify HttP Response
No Script
UBlock Origin
Tiny Java Script Debugger - disabled
The others are enabled but I have disabled all
and enabled all each one at a time also.Didn't seem
to help.



Install Chrome and call US BANK Technical support: 1 (877) 202-0043
Write down all the information.
Once you get that working you should be able to create a new SM entry 
after deleting all the old SM info on US BANK.


Why do people keep advising installing and using Chrome?  That browser 
is spyware.


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Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER

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Marion Walther wrote:

I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access anything. Cannot 
even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go to Firefox to do my banking. 
I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and have my own domain so I want to 
continue my email client in SM.

Have you tried faking your user-agent?  If you use a user-agent override 
claiming that SeaMonkey is Firefox, does that fix the problem?


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Re: hot to separate mail from newsgroup off line downloading?

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Gabriel wrote:

EE wrote on 20/07/2020 19:47:

Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

is it possible not to download the newsgroups messages when I only 
want to synchronize my email accounts?
It's *really* annoying that when I select the off-line mode to 
download my emails SM first starts to download hundreds of thousand 
NGs messages! And if I click on the "cancel" button it is stuck in a 
loop asking for the news server password!


So, if I only want to download the emails (from IMAP accounts), how 
can I do it?


I'd also like to know why SM downloads all the messages over and over 
again from the news server, instead of comparing and dowbloading only 
the new ones!


TIA :-)

G.

PS: does SM 2.53.3 work with macOS Catalina?


If you set SeaMonkey to download only threads with unread messages, 
you would not download thousands of them.




Hi,

you mean under "synchronization" -> to save disk space don't download 
"read messages"?
Well, I thought SM was smart enough not to download again all the 
messages I've already on disk as read.


I use View menu > Threads > Threads with Unread.

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Re: Linking to a Script

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David E. Ross wrote:

Somehow, I recall that a link can be added to the Bookmarks toolbar such
that it can be selected without having to view the bookmarks.  Instead
it would appear on the toolbar.  I just cannot remember how to do that.

Also, can such a link be to a local .bat file script?

If you want a bookmark to be on the bookmark toolbar, just drag and drop 
it there.


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Re: hot to separate mail from newsgroup off line downloading?

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Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

is it possible not to download the newsgroups messages when I only want 
to synchronize my email accounts?
It's *really* annoying that when I select the off-line mode to download 
my emails SM first starts to download hundreds of thousand NGs messages! 
And if I click on the "cancel" button it is stuck in a loop asking for 
the news server password!


So, if I only want to download the emails (from IMAP accounts), how can 
I do it?


I'd also like to know why SM downloads all the messages over and over 
again from the news server, instead of comparing and dowbloading only 
the new ones!


TIA :-)

G.

PS: does SM 2.53.3 work with macOS Catalina?


If you set SeaMonkey to download only threads with unread messages, you 
would not download thousands of them.


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Re: Theme & Font changer

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Lance Courtland wrote:
Is there a version of Theme and Font Size Changer or something 
equivalent that works in SM 2.53.3 in Windows 10?


LC


There are 2 older versions at the Thunderbird Add-ons site.  One is only 
labelled for Thunderbird and the other is for both SeaMonkey and 
Thunderbird, but the max version is for an older version of SeaMonkey. 
You could try editing the install.rdf file in the .xpi file and increase 
the max version for SeaMonkey and see if it works, or you could get the 
one only for Thunderbird and run it through the converter.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/theme-font-size-changer-fixed/
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/theme-font-size-changer-for-tb/
The converter:
http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/?appendName=-SM
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Re: Migrating files to 2.53.3

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Paul Marwick wrote:

EE wrote:

Paul Marwick wrote:
Just got the Arch Linux update. I'm glad to say I did archive my 
existing profile, since when I started the new version, I got a blank 
pane with nothing working. I've created a new profile and it is 
working well. Now all I need is my bookmarks and saved passwords.


Trouble is, I'm not sure which files I need to restore from the 
backup. I _think_ I need places.sqlite and logins.json, but I'm not 
sure, nor am I sure if I need anything else. Long time since I last 
had to do this...


Can anyone tell me what files I need to copy over? Thanks.


Along with logins.json, you also need the decryption keys.  I have 
both key3.db and key4.db in my profile.




Thanks for that. I have both, I'll try that.

What files are needed for the bookmarks now? I'd hate to have to try and 
rebuild that collection - it goes back years




Copying over places.sqlite should put back the bookmarks.  You could 
probably also copy over the bookmark backups as well.


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Re: 2.53.3 Mail button at bottom left now opens mail client in a new window :-(

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Tim T wrote:

Hi all,

Since updating to 2.53.3 when I click on the Mail button at the 
bottom-left of the Browser, the mail now opens in a new window instead 
of in the same window.  One of my favourite things about SeaMonkey was I 
could switch between Web and Mail in the same window.


I have tried searching for the setting to revert this but cannot find it.

Can anyone help me set SeaMonkey to open the mail client in the same 
window again?


Cheers,

Tim
What do you mean?  The browser window and the messenger window have 
always been separate.


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Re: Migrating files to 2.53.3

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Paul Marwick wrote:
Just got the Arch Linux update. I'm glad to say I did archive my 
existing profile, since when I started the new version, I got a blank 
pane with nothing working. I've created a new profile and it is working 
well. Now all I need is my bookmarks and saved passwords.


Trouble is, I'm not sure which files I need to restore from the backup. 
I _think_ I need places.sqlite and logins.json, but I'm not sure, nor am 
I sure if I need anything else. Long time since I last had to do this...


Can anyone tell me what files I need to copy over? Thanks.


Along with logins.json, you also need the decryption keys.  I have both 
key3.db and key4.db in my profile.

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Re: 'Import' Function in SM v.2.53.2

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
The only "Import" functions I can see in my - admittedly older - 
Seamonkey are in the Mail/News/Calendar module,
- One is under "Events and Tasks", it is almost certainly so you can 
import Calendar-Events into Lightning.

- One is under "Tools" and is probably so you can import emails.
Have I missed something?


You can import HTML bookmarks.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

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Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the release
update channel.

Best regards,

Erik



Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.


Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/
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I get my new versions from the SeaMonkey download & release site and 
install manually.  I prefer to do it that way anyhow.


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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

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AK wrote:

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, EE wrote:

AK wrote:

I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not support 
Seamonkey.

That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.

Is there a workaround?

Thanks,
  Andy


Try using a fake user-agent.  You could use an extension like user-agent
switcher or set an override in about:config.


I can not find a version for Linux.

Most extensions work with any platform.  Certainly User Agent Switcher 
works with any platform, but you probably have to edit install.rdf in 
the .xpi file to increase the max version for SeaMonkey.


As for the override, you can set that in about:config like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com - set to - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 
Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0


Just change the hostname and the version of Firefox to suit.
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Re: Disable mouse hover popups

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AK wrote:

Is there a way to disable those annoying popups whenever your mouse hovers over 
certain areas?

Andy

Do you mean tooltips?  There are only a few settings for tooltips for 
specific elements, which you can find by searching for tooltip in 
about:config.  If you want them gone totally, I think you have to 
configure the operating system to disable them.


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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

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AK wrote:

I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not support 
Seamonkey.

That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.

Is there a workaround?

Thanks,
 Andy

Try using a fake user-agent.  You could use an extension like user-agent 
switcher or set an override in about:config.


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Re: change the font size in tabs

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AK wrote:

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:45:21 PM UTC-5, Lee wrote:

On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:54:13 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/25/20 3:47 PM, AK wrote:

I want to change the font size in tabs.

Is it something to be put in userchrome.css?

Thanks.



Isn't that in the userChrome-example.css file found in the profile
folder?

/*
   * Some possible accessibility enhancements:
   */
/*
   * Make all the default font sizes 20 pt:
   *
   * * {
   *   font-size: 20pt !important
   * }
   */
/*
   * Make menu items in particular 15 pt instead of the default size:
   *
   * menupopup > * {
   *   font-size: 15pt !important
   * }
   */


I did not state my desire completely.

This should help.

https://imgur.com/a/1cTCLrG


maybe this
.tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}


Thanks.

It did not help.

Just so I am clear, I am looking to reduce the width of tabs.

As of now, I can not have more than 5 tabs open.

Firefox can have more tabs open.


These are the settings I have in about:config:

browser.tabs.tabClipWidth = 60
browser.tabs.tabMaxWidth = 320
browser.tabs.tabMinWidth = 16

I do not have any such limitation in the number of tabs I can have open.

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Re: change the font size in tabs

[EE]

Lee wrote:

On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:54:13 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/25/20 3:47 PM, AK wrote:

I want to change the font size in tabs.

Is it something to be put in userchrome.css?

Thanks.



Isn't that in the userChrome-example.css file found in the profile
folder?

/*
   * Some possible accessibility enhancements:
   */
/*
   * Make all the default font sizes 20 pt:
   *
   * * {
   *   font-size: 20pt !important
   * }
   */
/*
   * Make menu items in particular 15 pt instead of the default size:
   *
   * menupopup > * {
   *   font-size: 15pt !important
   * }
   */


I did not state my desire completely.

This should help.

https://imgur.com/a/1cTCLrG


maybe this
.tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}

Setting the width of the tab will not change the font.  Using that 
element with the font-zize setting would do it.


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Re: YouTube's web site got redesigned again...

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Ant wrote:
... and it's so slow in my poor old 64-bit SeaMonkey v2.53.2 web browser 
on my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :(



It did not work at all for me, except with two items: Nvidia HD test and 
Planet Earth.  With those, I was unable to get full screen or cinema 
view to work.

Fortunately, Invidious works.
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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



With Google Maps, I had to set the Firefox compatibility information in 
the user-agent to get SeaMonkey to work properly with it.  I had to do 
the same thing with Pale Moon as well.


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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

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Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on 
my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment from 
your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the other 
one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Why not use the latest official release of SeaMonkey?  The latest is 2.53.2.

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Re: create link on desktop

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meagain wrote:
SeaMonkey lets you drag a link onto the desktop. But launching the link 
now launches Microsoft Edge. I want the link to go back to SeaMonkey - 
how to do that?


Is Edge your default browser?  If so, set SeaMonkey as the default.

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Re: Plugin for Seamonkey

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Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 10-06-20 05:32:

Once ClipGrab is installed, you start the playing of a YouTube
performance.  Copy the URI and paste it into the top input area on
ClipGrab's Downloads tab.  Initially, the Format selection list is
grayed-out.  It becomes available after ClipGrab has analyzed the URI.
Then, you can select the format.  There are three format choices that
are audio-only: MP3, OGG Vorbis, and original.  (There are two choices
for "original": video and audio-only.)


Isn't it reprehensible to steal videos or audios


If that were true, why would these things be sent to YouTube in the 
first place?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.2

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Gerry Hickman wrote:

stango wrote:
Events column is Lightening Calendar. Click on the lower right corner 
where it says Today and it will shrink.


Thanks, that has made it go away, but where did it come from?

Lightning is an extension that comes along with SeaMonkey, but you can 
remove it if you do not want it.


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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[EE]

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) 
it?



about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in 
your

profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile 
Folder


click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox 
compatibility.





Is this 'user.js' used by  SM(64) and SM(32) ?


Yes, and also with different operating systems like MacOS and Linux.

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


Is there some reason why the rv version is different from the Firefox 
version (rv:67.0 and Firefox/68.0)?


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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

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Frog wrote:

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog


I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing 
message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my 
problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file 
might reveal, and this is what I found:


Name    Date modified    Type    Size
Sent    6/4/2020 7:23    File    2,605,188 ...
Sent.mst    6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File    2 KB

I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename 
the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf).  I then visited the the OLD 
Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new 
Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new 
folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst).  Well, all seemed to be 
going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a 
copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I 
attempted to send my test message:


Save Message
Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder 
(Sent) due to network or file access errors.
You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local 
Folders.

     Retry    Save    Don't Save

My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf 
folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the 
above window.  My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to 
see my saved message...I could not find my message.


All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my 
actions.  I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I 
sent a message.  I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely 
to its limits) and could not hold another message.  I also am not able 
to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload 
that exists.


I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of 
file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" 
and "Sent.msf folder".  I cannot figure out how to change the new 
folders to look like the old original folders.


Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage 
of my sent messages on my system.  I can delete the new Sent and 
Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to 
Sent and Sent.msf.


Frog

P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this 
thread.  Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time 
of trying to make my computer work.



Maybe if you had done things the other way around, it would have worked. 
 Instead of renaming the Sent folder, create a new folder called 
Sent-old and transfer the messages from Sent to that.  If you use the 
File button, it is very easy to transfer messages from one folder to 
another.


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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[EE]

meagain wrote:

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop supporting 
this browser soon. For the best experience please update your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to use 
a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.


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Re: I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.

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Frog wrote:


Before I start, I am about to say many things in this message that have 
already been the subjects of some of my earlier messages.  Quickly 
stated...I am not making any progress in finding a solution for my 
SeaMonkey problems.


I really am having great difficulty making SeaMonkey work on my 
computer.  I am not able to open any messages on the m.general or the 
news.mozilla.com news groups.  Also, my responses to Inbox messages are 
not being stored in my Sent folder (I don't know if they are being 
recorded anywhere on my computer--simply put, they are lost).  My 
SeaMonkey folders are stored on my E drive: 
(SeaM_AboutConfig...SeaMonkeyAddNk...SeaMonkeyProfile).
I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that 
SeaMonkey has crashed.  I have tried to chase down what might be causing 
this endless string of problems without much success.  Let me say, 
however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a 
32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is 
based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. 
Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and 
all is working properly with this software.  Also, I am using Windows 10 
for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot 
Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any 
problems being found.


With all of the above said, here is where I need your help.  I have in 
my mind that I must remove/reinstall SeaMonkey on my computer.


I have copied the three folders listed above in this message to a 
different location on my computer...hopefully I will be able to fix any 
problems that occur as a result of redoing my SeaMonkey software.  Am I 
correct?


The drive that the backups are recorded in is on the same drive (E) 
where they were originally recorded...in a folder named 
Backup_Seamonkey.  This should keep this data secure...correct?


I'm not sure which SeaMonkey software should be reinstalled on my 
computer-32 or 64 bit...it seems like it should be the 64 bit version. 
Is this a good guess?


Would it be a better choice to give up on SeaMonkey and turn to 
Firefox/Thunderbird for my internet work?  This action would also 
involve training another person on how to use the new software.


What other problems should I consider before I goof up my computer and 
not be able to communicate with anybody for help?


Frog

If you have Thunderbird working, you could use its settings as a 
reference to work out what is wrong with the SeaMonkey settings.  They 
both use the same settings for newsgroups and email.


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Re: "Unexpected error" on CDC site

[EE]

flyguy wrote:

EE wrote on 5/27/2020 1:49 PM:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

SM has trouble with this site, but Chrome displays it properly:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

The "processing" wheel never stops, and this error message is displayed:

--
Unexpected Error
An unexpected error occurred. If you continue to receive this error 
please contact your Tableau Server Administrator.

Session ID: C45C773C1E6F46C6913E65340D18A29F-0:0
TypeError: window.performance.getEntriesByName(...)[0] is undefined
--

The page looks correct, but the chart does not display the values for 
each data bar when I hover over it. So is it a SM problem, my 
particular setup for SM, or? And is there a way to make SM work with 
the site; eg, does the latest SM display the site properly?


That page is working for me.  I began to see the information on the 
graph after I clicked on it.



What SM version are you and Gerry using?


I am using the latest official version: 2.53.2.

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Re: Home Depot videos don't play

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 26-05-20 22:56:

On 5/26/2020 12:40 PM, EE wrote:

flyguy wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do
play if I use Chrome. What's wrong?

  > What's wrong?

For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2.

Oops. Forgot to show the link:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 




Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a
problem with SM setup and not the version.

I do not see anything that looks like a video on that page.  I see only
images and text.


The images along the left edge have right-pointing triangles, which
indicate selecting them launches videos.

Don't work for me, perhzps it's a Flash (I have not installed Adobe 
Flash Player ans I will not do it - because, it's a DEAD product)


I tried that page with 4 other browsers.  Safari is the only one which 
showed more images and the videos.


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Re: Home Depot videos don't play

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/26/2020 12:40 PM, EE wrote:

flyguy wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do
play if I use Chrome. What's wrong?


  > What's wrong?

For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2.


Oops. Forgot to show the link:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932


Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a
problem with SM setup and not the version.


I do not see anything that looks like a video on that page.  I see only
images and text.



The images along the left edge have right-pointing triangles, which
indicate selecting them launches videos.


I see bulleted items on the left side, but no triangles.

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Re: "Unexpected error" on CDC site

[EE]

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

SM has trouble with this site, but Chrome displays it properly:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

The "processing" wheel never stops, and this error message is displayed:

--
Unexpected Error
An unexpected error occurred. If you continue to receive this error 
please contact your Tableau Server Administrator.

Session ID: C45C773C1E6F46C6913E65340D18A29F-0:0
TypeError: window.performance.getEntriesByName(...)[0] is undefined
--

The page looks correct, but the chart does not display the values for 
each data bar when I hover over it. So is it a SM problem, my particular 
setup for SM, or? And is there a way to make SM work with the site; eg, 
does the latest SM display the site properly?


That page is working for me.  I began to see the information on the 
graph after I clicked on it.


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Re: Home Depot videos don't play

[EE]

flyguy wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do 
play if I use Chrome. What's wrong?


 > What's wrong?

For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2.


Oops. Forgot to show the link:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932 



Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a 
problem with SM setup and not the version.


I do not see anything that looks like a video on that page.  I see only 
images and text.


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Re: Honey

[EE]

Cecil Bankston wrote:
Is there a way to install Honey in the SeaMonkey browser?  The Honey 
site says it can be used with Firefox.


What is it?
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Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?

[EE]

Richard Alan wrote:

EE wrote:


flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser
window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post
front page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after
closing the email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this
high memory usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it
without closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email,
but often I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to
close the browser, too.


If you read your email as plain text, it should not take as much room.


Choosing to read only the plain text will not change the size of the email
or the memory usage of the window. If the email contains an "HTML half" it
still loads. Do a Crtl-U and see it all.

That is only if the email is multipart.  If the sender uses only HTML 
and you read that as plain text, the tidied content does not take much 
space.  I read all my email as plain text.  Even if I deal with 20 
messages, I delete them when I have finished, then compact the folders. 
The compaction tells me how much space I saved afterwards, and it is on 
the order of kilobytes, not megabytes.


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Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/17/2020 11:24 AM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/17/2020 7:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser
window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front
page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the
email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory
usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without
closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often
I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the
browser, too.


I have a similar problem with SeaMonkey memory usage growing over time.
   My solution was to add a "restart application" button that I use
whenever it starts getting sluggish.  This closes and restarts SeaMonkey
without losing anything other than the time it takes to restart.

Dave



Does the Restart Application button do a full restart?  That is, does it
reload user.js to restore preferences that might have been changed
during the session?  If so, how can I get the Restart Application button?


Chromedit Plus provides a stand-alone restart button.  Restart does redo
the preference settings from user.js.



Aha!  That is exactly what I have been seeking.  Some Web sites that I
visit require that I change my preferences from what I usually have.  I
use PrefBar for that.  Sometimes the changes are so extensive, however,
that it is easier to terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it.  If I was
in a profile that is not my default, that also means switching back to
the profile I was using.

If this restarts me back in my non-default profile, the Restart
Application button will be great.

Chromedit Plus and its restart does not switch profiles.  It puts the 
changes you made with it (to user.js, userContent.css, and 
userChrome.css) into effect.


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Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2

[EE]

Frog wrote:
How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager 
to save a password?


Frog

When you log in somewhere, it does that auromatically.

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Re: Sorting Buttons

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1

If I right-click on the SeaMonkey menu bar or tool bar, I get the
Customize Toolbar window.  With or without the Toolbar Buttons
extension, is there some way to sort the buttons in that window.  I
would want to sort them alphabetically by name (the text that goes with
the icon)?

Not counting those buttons that are already installed on my SeaMonkey
tool and menu bars, I have 97 buttons in my Customize Toolbar window.
They seem to be in random order.  It is quite tedious to find a button
there.

If I right-click a tool bar, I get a context menu.  One of the items is 
Customize.


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Re: Address Book Location

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Daniel wrote:

rmpbklyn wrote on 16/05/2020 11:28 PM:
go to trouble shooting menu from Help, scroll past to 'application 
basics' , that will indicate the path to folder to files. mab files , 
but  you can copy the entire profile folder to a backup drive in the 
event you need to restore


On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:

I can't find the Address Book Location

Where specifically is the address book in the profile?
What is it called?

--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com


When I go to my 'Help' menu, in SM 2.49.5 (same as OP), I don't see 
anything like 'application basics' to scroll past.


Have you missed a step or two, maybe, rmpbklyn??



Weird.
"Application Basics" is the first section on my "Troubleshooting 
Information", as you can see I'm running 2.49.4 on this (Linux) machine.
Just for giggles I clicked on the "Open Directory" button in the 
"Profile Directory" entry.  It mangled the path and told me that mangled 
path did not exist - doh!, no idea why it tried to open that 
non-existent path in Super-User mode.  I'll have to check those bugs on 
a more current version.
This is also pretty irrelevant - the OP clearly knows where the profile 
is, he just did not know which file was the address book.


In Troubleshooting Information, try looking at "Profile Folder".  There 
should be a button there to show you the profile.


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Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/17/2020 7:07 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser
window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front
page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the
email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory
usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without
closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often
I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the
browser, too.


I have a similar problem with SeaMonkey memory usage growing over time.
  My solution was to add a "restart application" button that I use
whenever it starts getting sluggish.  This closes and restarts SeaMonkey
without losing anything other than the time it takes to restart.

Dave



Does the Restart Application button do a full restart?  That is, does it
reload user.js to restore preferences that might have been changed
during the session?  If so, how can I get the Restart Application button?

Chromedit Plus provides a stand-alone restart button.  Restart does redo 
the preference settings from user.js.


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Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?

[EE]

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser 
window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post front 
page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after closing the 
email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this high memory 
usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it without 
closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, but often 
I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to close the 
browser, too.


If you read your email as plain text, it should not take as much room.

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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Holger wrote:

Yamo' schrieb:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.



Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.



It it was/is the language pack should be fixed in 2.53.4. Actually 
2.53.3 but given that the 2.53.2 language packs have the wrong max 
version the fix will only be effective in 2.53.4.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635413

FRG
If the problem is only the wrong max version in the installer, that is 
easy to fix.  Just edit the max version in install.rdf.


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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[EE]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/9/20 11:30 AM, EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I 
seem to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF 
file I received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the 
attached file and choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a folder 
and open it there, but I would like to open the file in MAIL if 
possible.  I downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but that seems 
to have no effect.  Any ideas what might have happened or how to 
get this ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of Preferences. 
You can specify what application will be used to open any file type.




Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just fine, 
it is within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?

What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?

I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type 
should be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview in 
SeaMonkey" (Maybe Firefox).



You could use a helper application.



Which one opens the PDF attachment in the MAIL window?

I use the Foxit PDF reader.  It does not open anything in the mail 
window.  It uses its own window.


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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[EE]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I seem 
to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF file I 
received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the attached file 
and choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a folder and open it 
there, but I would like to open the file in MAIL if possible.  I 
downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but that seems to have no 
effect.  Any ideas what might have happened or how to get this 
ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of Preferences. 
You can specify what application will be used to open any file type.




Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just fine, it 
is within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?

What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?

I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type 
should be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview in 
SeaMonkey" (Maybe Firefox).



You could use a helper application.

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Re: Startup in browser only

[EE]

G. Ross wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/21/20 10:17 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

G. Ross wrote:
Recently installed v 2.46.  With the previous version I had two 
desktop icons.  One was Seamonkey.exe -browser and the other 
was Seamonkey.exe -mail. The one for mail works as usual but the 
other one opens the browser then the mail windows.  It will not 
allow the -browser part.  Is there another way to open only the 
browser window?


Look in about:config for
general.startup
and set what you want to start as TRUE.
I have mine set for browser only.


Why not just use Edit > Preferences > Appearance and set "When SeaMonkey
starts up, open" and check "Browser"? It does the same thing.

If I do that, it will only open the browser and cannot get into the 
mail.  Also, the "seamonkey.exe -mail" will not work. Guess I'll just 
close the mail pane when I want to use the browser to do a Lookup.


Do you not have the icons at the left end of the status bar for browser, 
mail & newsgroups, composer, address book and chatzilla?


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