Re: how to set max width size for new windows?

[Gabriel]

On 3 Feb 2021 at 12:56:59 CET, "Daniel"  wrote:

> Gabriel wrote on 1/02/2021 9:22 pm:
>>  Hi all, is it possible to set the maximum width when opening a new window in
>>  the browser? SM 2.53.6 on macOS.
>>  Because currently a new window opens at the max screen size, and as I'm
>> using
>>  an iMac 5K I'd like to set it to a smaller width.
>>  
>>  TIA :-)
>>  
> Gabriel, I don't know about an iMac at all, and I don't think I've 
> actually tried changing the width of a new window on either my Win7 or 
> Linux SeaMonkey installations in a long time, but, last time I tried, it 
> was just a case of dragging the window edge to where I wanted it.
> 

Obviously :-)
I meant a SM setting to *automatically open a new window with a fixed
max-width*. In my case 2048px would be fine, instead of 2560px which is the
current dimension.


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how to set max width size for new windows?

[Gabriel]

Hi all, is it possible to set the maximum width when opening a new window in
the browser? SM 2.53.6 on macOS.
Because currently a new window opens at the max screen size, and as I'm using
an iMac 5K I'd like to set it to a smaller width. 

TIA :-)


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Re: how to "reader only" mode?

[Gabriel]

On 8 Jan 2021 at 14:50:31 CET, "WaltS48"  wrote:

> On 1/8/21 6:41 AM, Gabriel wrote:
>>  Hi all,
>>  
>>  does SM has an option to switch to a "reader only" browser mode as FF and
>>  Safari? I can't find it.
>>  
>>  Thank you.
>>  
>>  
> 
> Because it doesn't have it.
> 
> I can't find a "reader only" mode in Firefox.

:-(


> 
> 
> There is a "reader view' in Firefox, 

That's want I meant :-)



> but only certain pages activate the 
> icon depending on how they are coded.

Yes, but it works on a lot of sites I usually visit.


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how to "reader only" mode?

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

does SM has an option to switch to a "reader only" browser mode as FF and
Safari? I can't find it.

Thank you.


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how to assign filters to a new account?

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

is it possible to assign a mail filter to new accounts? 
I mean, say I already have a filter:
- account a...@aa.aa -> Inbox filter with several rules

I need to assign that filtering action to another account that has the same
email address but on a new server, is it possible?

thx


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Re: how to reorder email accounts?

[Gabriel]

On 3 Dec 2020 at 04:51:20 CET, "Daniel"  wrote:

> Gabriel wrote on 3/12/2020 3:35 AM:
>>  On 2 Dec 2020 at 15:32:27 CET, ""Jonathan N. Little"" 
>>  wrote:
>>>  Gabriel wrote:
>>>>  Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>  many years ago I used an extension to reorder my email accounts, now I
>>>> had to
>>>>  add some new accounts and I can't remember how I did it.
>>>>  I mean, when you add email accounts, I'd like to reorder them in the left
>>>>  pane of Mail window.
>>>>  SM 2.53.4 macOS.
>>>>
>>>>  Thank you!
>>> 
>>>  Modify order in perfs.js key "mail.accountmanager.accounts". Needs a bit
>>>  of inversigation to find which email account corresponds to each account#
>>  
>>  Great, I'm going to try.
>>  Will this setting change after a SM upgrade?
>>  
> No, once you set the order, it is set  until you change it.
> 
> When I alter the order, I do it by entering "about:config" (without the 
> inverted commas) in the browser address line. SM then give you a 
> warning, which I accept, then, in the screen that opens, I'd enter 
> "mail.accountmanager.accounts" in the search bar and the preference that 
> shows is the order in which your various accounts are shown in the 
> 'accounts' pane of the Mail & News accounts column.
> 
> Account 1 is usually your mail account, Account 2 is usually the 'Local 
> Folders' account and then will come your other mail and news accounts.
> 
> Changing the order of the accounts listed in that preference changes the 
> order in which the accounts are listed on the screen.


Great, it worked! Thank you :-)
I had 14 accounts... apparently the n. 2 is the default one.


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Re: how to reorder email accounts?

[Gabriel]

On 3 Dec 2020 at 04:33:35 CET, "Michael Lueck"  Rubens wrote:
>>  I still use that extension.
>>  
>>  
>>  It is named "Folderpane Tools 0.6.1"
> 
> Agreed, we use it as well...
> 
> Folderpane Tools 0.6.1
> By chuonthis
> 
> Allows for customization of the folder pane such as rearranging accounts an
> choosing a startup folder.Status
> 
> This extension is no longer being maintained. Please use this extension as a
> alternative:
> Manually sort folders
> 

[...]

Thank you but it doesn't work on the latest SM version


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Re: how to reorder email accounts?

[Gabriel]

On 2 Dec 2020 at 15:32:27 CET, ""Jonathan N. Little"" 
wrote:

> Gabriel wrote:
>>  Hello all,
>>  
>>  many years ago I used an extension to reorder my email accounts, now I had
>> to
>>  add some new accounts and I can't remember how I did it.
>>  I mean, when you add email accounts, I'd like to reorder them in the left
>> pane
>>  of Mail window.
>>  SM 2.53.4 macOS.
>>  
>>  Thank you!
>>  
>>  
> 
> Modify order in perfs.js key "mail.accountmanager.accounts". Needs a bit
> of inversigation to find which email account corresponds to each account#


Great, I'm going to try.
Will this setting change after a SM upgrade?


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how to reorder email accounts?

[Gabriel]

Hello all,

many years ago I used an extension to reorder my email accounts, now I had to
add some new accounts and I can't remember how I did it.
I mean, when you add email accounts, I'd like to reorder them in the left pane
of Mail window.
SM 2.53.4 macOS.

Thank you!


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Re: hot to separate mail from newsgroup off line downloading?

[Gabriel]

Daniel wrote on 22/07/2020 08:00:

Gabriel wrote on 21/07/2020 6:58 PM:


[...]

OK, the issue is SM behaves differently if you select the menu as you 
suggested (that gives the option to download only email or NGs or both) VS 
what I usually do just by clicking the "connection icon" in the Mail window. 
In this case there are no options at all and if you click on "cancel" when 
asked for the news server credentials SM gets stuck in a loop!
I consider this a bug, SM should just stop asking for username/password in 
that case and go on downloading only Mail.

Anyway, thank you for the workaround :-)


When you mention 'just by clicking the "connection icon" in the Mail Window' 
. where is this "connection icon"??



right-bottom of the main window (both Mail and Browser)
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Re: hot to separate mail from newsgroup off line downloading?

[Gabriel]

Daniel wrote on 21/07/2020 10:45:

Gabriel wrote on 20/07/2020 7:53 PM:

Daniel wrote on 20/07/2020 09:29:

Gabriel wrote on 20/07/2020 10:25 AM:

Hi all,

is it possible not to download the newsgroups messages when I only want to 
synchronize my email accounts?
It's *really* annoying that when I select the off-line mode to download my 
emails SM first starts to download hundreds of thousand NGs messages! And if 
I click on the "cancel" button it is stuck in a loop asking for the news 
server password!


So, if I only want to download the emails (from IMAP accounts), how can I do 
it?


I'd also like to know why SM downloads all the messages over and over again 
from the news server, instead of comparing and dowbloading only the new ones!


TIA :-)

G.

PS: does SM 2.53.3 work with macOS Catalina?


In my Win 7 SM 2.49.5, if I select File -> Off line -> Download/Sync Now, a 
screen pops up where I can select to Download 'Mail messages' and/or 
'Newsgroup messages'. I'm guessing if I don't want to download 'Newsgroup 
messages', I'd deselect it!



That would solve my issue!
Can you upload a screenshot somehere?

Thank you!


Why a screenshot?? Can't you just click File -> Off line -> Download/Sync Now to 
see for yourself??



Hi, just to compare, given we are using different OS and SM versions...
OK, the issue is SM behaves differently if you select the menu as you suggested 
(that gives the option to download only email or NGs or both) VS what I usually 
do just by clicking the "connection icon" in the Mail window. In this case there 
are no options at all and if you click on "cancel" when asked for the news 
server credentials SM gets stuck in a loop!
I consider this a bug, SM should just stop asking for username/password in that 
case and go on downloading only Mail.

Anyway, thank you for the workaround :-)
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Re: hot to separate mail from newsgroup off line downloading?

[Gabriel]

EE wrote on 20/07/2020 19:47:

Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

is it possible not to download the newsgroups messages when I only want to 
synchronize my email accounts?
It's *really* annoying that when I select the off-line mode to download my 
emails SM first starts to download hundreds of thousand NGs messages! And if I 
click on the "cancel" button it is stuck in a loop asking for the news server 
password!


So, if I only want to download the emails (from IMAP accounts), how can I do it?

I'd also like to know why SM downloads all the messages over and over again 
from the news server, instead of comparing and dowbloading only the new ones!


TIA :-)

G.

PS: does SM 2.53.3 work with macOS Catalina?


If you set SeaMonkey to download only threads with unread messages, you would 
not download thousands of them.




Hi,

you mean under "synchronization" -> to save disk space don't download "read 
messages"?
Well, I thought SM was smart enough not to download again all the messages I've 
already on disk as read.

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Re: hot to separate mail from newsgroup off line downloading?

[Gabriel]

Daniel wrote on 20/07/2020 09:29:

Gabriel wrote on 20/07/2020 10:25 AM:

Hi all,

is it possible not to download the newsgroups messages when I only want to 
synchronize my email accounts?
It's *really* annoying that when I select the off-line mode to download my 
emails SM first starts to download hundreds of thousand NGs messages! And if I 
click on the "cancel" button it is stuck in a loop asking for the news server 
password!


So, if I only want to download the emails (from IMAP accounts), how can I do it?

I'd also like to know why SM downloads all the messages over and over again 
from the news server, instead of comparing and dowbloading only the new ones!


TIA :-)

G.

PS: does SM 2.53.3 work with macOS Catalina?


In my Win 7 SM 2.49.5, if I select File -> Off line -> Download/Sync Now, a 
screen pops up where I can select to Download 'Mail messages' and/or 'Newsgroup 
messages'. I'm guessing if I don't want to download 'Newsgroup messages', I'd 
deselect it!



That would solve my issue!
Can you upload a screenshot somehere?

Thank you!
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hot to separate mail from newsgroup off line downloading?

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

is it possible not to download the newsgroups messages when I only want to 
synchronize my email accounts?
It's *really* annoying that when I select the off-line mode to download my 
emails SM first starts to download hundreds of thousand NGs messages! And if I 
click on the "cancel" button it is stuck in a loop asking for the news server 
password!


So, if I only want to download the emails (from IMAP accounts), how can I do it?

I'd also like to know why SM downloads all the messages over and over again from 
the news server, instead of comparing and dowbloading only the new ones!


TIA :-)

G.

PS: does SM 2.53.3 work with macOS Catalina?
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Re: DoH and SeaMonkey

[Gabriel]

Lee wrote on 26/02/2020 20:10:

On 2/25/20, Paul Bergsagel  wrote:

Hi,

Does SeaMonkey support DoH and if it does how can it be enabled?


apparently not


I was going to ask the same question :-D





Also does anyone know the pros and cons of using DoH?


Pro - hide your dns traffic from your ISP, sidestep ISP/Country blocks
for "bad" hostnames


Like using a VPN that also offers DNS server service, just with even more 
privacy I tink.






Con - google. cloudflare, whatever sees all your name resolution
requests, no ability to monitor or block name resolution requests on
your own (eg. family safe or gambling filters)

If you think you might want DOH then you should take a look at TOR
   https://www.torproject.org/
better privacy, but riskier since anyone can put up an exit node and
do whatever (at the very least, do not enable javascript from
unencrypted pages)




[...]

I'm testing NextDNS on Firefox (you can also set it on routers, single 
computers, whatever) and it allows to use a whitelist in case any website you 
need is blocked because they also filter tracking links.

I'm not going to use Cloudflare for DoH even if their resolvers are really fast.

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Differences between 2.53.1b1 and 2.53.2b1pre ?

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

I'm using since a few months the WG9s version of SM for Mac 2.53.1b1 and I have 
a few questions:
1) what's different with the current official 2.53.1b1 release? My build is 
20191223130007;
2) I now see on WG9s site there's a "2.53.2b1pre", but I don't understand what 
has changed since the previous release.


Can someone explain? :-)

Thank you!
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How to separate Mail vs News accounts off-line syncronization?

[Gabriel]

Hello,

there's an odd issue when I want to download off-line all my accounts.
The problem is SM doesn't has AFAIK a setting to separate the synchronization of 
the email accounts and the news one.
So when I go in offline mode it starts with the news account which lasts forever 
to download, while I usually want to synchronize the email accounts first. If I 
click on "cancel" when I'm asked for the NG credentials, SM enters in a loop 
instead of stopping the news download!
I also don't understand why it keeps downloading everything as it was the first 
time instead of doing an incremental backup, and this is a real problem because 
some groups have more than 800.000 messages!


So, do you know a way to not automatically download all the NGs but still do it 
with the email accounts?


Thank you.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.5 thankful for the release.

[Gabriel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 05/09/2019 04:06:

Hi,

A big thanks to the developers on the release of 2.49.5

Seamonky 2.49.5 fixed a website that did not display correctly. Once again 
thanks.

I would like to help out and test 2.53.x--I am hesitant since I have heard that 
once you have installed 2.53.x the user profile changes and is no longer 
compatible with 2.49.x so I am hesitant to do any testing. Maybe when 2.53 is 
ready for full time use I will consider testing and filing bugs.


Thanks developers and testers. BTW I am using MacOS.



Hi, please do it as you're using macOS! So we can compare our experience.
If you use Time Machine you can go back to the previous profile, or just 
compress the current profile (it's inside
/Users/YourUserName/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/Profiles/xxx.default) 
and then if it's not working you just decompress it and go back.


I'm using 2.53 since a few monts and I have an odd problem affecting the GPU or 
something that after a certain period of time makes the screen "flashing" just 
like the video was broken and I need to shut off the Mac and restart. This is 
happening more often if I use the Mail and News section of SeaMonkey; I also 
noticed it happens less if I go in off-line several times a day. Very weird!


So I'd appreciate if you could try SM 2.53 on your Mac and tell me if it's 
working fine.

NB: my sessionstore.json file is now about 18MB (it was up to 40 before).

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Re: missing content (such as social sharing icons)

[Gabriel]

WaltS48 wrote on 03/09/2019 16:39:

On 9/3/19 6:50 AM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

I often notice in SM (now 2.53 but it was the same with 2.49) that some 
content is missing, usually the social sharing icons.

I can't find any ad-blocker or similar in my installation.

Eg. this page when viewed in Safari shows on the left side 5 icons vertically 
aligned, while in SM there's nothing:

https://zapier.com/learn/ecommerce/best-ecommerce-shopping-cart-software/

What can cause this behaviour?

Thank you!


I don't see the vertical social sharing icons in my Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux 
x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 on Ubuntu 18.04.3 
LTS and I don't have any extensions installed.


However, they appeared when restarting in safe mode.

I restarted in production mode, went to Preferences > Privacy and Security and 
determined it was the "Prevent tracking activities by known sites" item being 
enabled that blocked those icons.





Thank you, I will try! But then why in Safari (where I have all the privacy 
settings set to "on") I can see them?
I think SM should show an alert when it hides important part of a website (just 
like it does fot the pop-ups).


What do you guys think about this?
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Re: missing content (such as social sharing icons)

[Gabriel]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 03/09/2019 13:38:

On 03/09/19 11:50, Gabriel wrote:


I often notice in SM (now 2.53 but it was the same with 2.49) that some 
content is missing, usually the social sharing icons.

I can't find any ad-blocker or similar in my installation.

Eg. this page when viewed in Safari shows on the left side 5 icons vertically 
aligned, while in SM there's nothing:

https://zapier.com/learn/ecommerce/best-ecommerce-shopping-cart-software/


I see sharing icons at the bottom of the page (2.49.5). If there's some issue 
with other social stuff, perhaps addthis.com is not working for you (that's how 
I like it)?





The ones at the bottom are not for sharing the article, but for following the 
accounts, and I do see them.
If you look at the website with another browser you should see the sharing ones 
as a vertical block at the left in the middle of the window.

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missing content (such as social sharing icons)

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

I often notice in SM (now 2.53 but it was the same with 2.49) that some content 
is missing, usually the social sharing icons.

I can't find any ad-blocker or similar in my installation.

Eg. this page when viewed in Safari shows on the left side 5 icons vertically 
aligned, while in SM there's nothing:

https://zapier.com/learn/ecommerce/best-ecommerce-shopping-cart-software/

What can cause this behaviour?

Thank you!
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Re: Ver. 2.53--2.53.1

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 31/08/2019 18:19:
Back up your profile and find it out. For me much better than 2.49.x but ymmv. 
Some old extensions might be broken because of all the changes.




Hi,

how do I check the differences between the Mac versione 2.53 published yesterday 
in https://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ (2019-09-01 19:15) and the one I'm using now? 
my build identifier: 20190521130005



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.57 for MacOS

[Gabriel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 09/08/2019 03:05:

Hi,

I am wondering if the SeaMonkey 2.57 (found here https://www.wg9s.com/comm-257/ 
) is only good enough for testing, or if it is bug free enough to be used daily 
as a replacement for SeaMonkey 2.49.4?


Can someone who has used 2.57 On MacOS X tell me some of their experience and if 
they think WG9s SeaMonkey 2.57 for MacOS X is good enough (i.e. bug free) to 
replace Seamonkey 2.49.4 on a daily basis?


Use the 2.53 version.
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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 28/05/2019 09:42:

Gabriel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 26/05/19 alle 11:35:



Gabriel wrote:


I also switched off the hardware acceleration in SM on the iMac but that 
didn't help, on or off it's the same.


So: my (big) sessionstore.json + iMac 10.14.5 with AMD R9 390 = crash.

What I'm also wondering is why neither of SM and Mojave create a crash report! 
macOS doesn't send the usual crash report after the reboot and the "crashes" 
folder in SM is empty.


So what do you thing about all this mess?


My mac mini only has Intel Graphics so if it works with the later versions 
chances are I never can reproduce it. I can only guess what causes it. Might be 
3 things: Bad hardware, bad driver or a bug in a different macOS component. 
There might be a bug or sequence in SeaMonkey session restore or mozilla code 
which triggers it for SeaMonkey only.


Overall I am not seeing a spike in crashes with 2.53. Not one for macOS.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrashers/?product=SeaMonkey=2.53=28

So without either a macOS or SeaMonkey crash report not much which can be done 
:(

Happy to try the sessionstore.json file.



Hi,

for about 3 weeks I didn't have any more freezing, after starting with a new 
sessionstore file and importing bookmarks and tabs (see my message 
).
So now after 1 month the sessionstore file grew from 2 MB up to 30 MB! And I had 
a few crashes. I'm wondering if there's some limit in the size of that file.
I disabled the "form and search history" but even if I clear both the visited 
page and location bar history, the file doesn't reduce.




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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 26/05/19 alle 11:35:



Gabriel wrote:


It's the sessionstore.json file!
I started the new 2.53 profile with the old sessionstore (and I also 
deselected many tabs), and it crashes after loading a few pages. The real 
problem is that even after rapidly closing SM (as soon I saw the graphical 
glitches I pressed cmd-q many times), the iMac was very unstable and I had to 
reboot.


Now what? May I send the sessionstore file to you to check it out?



Session restore in SeaMonkey and Firefox differs so that is one area where 
different code is used. I would try to disable hardware accelearation in 
Appearance->Content. If you trust me you can send me the session store file but 
be advised that it may contain personal information even if only the urls but 
some other stuff from the history may be in too.


[...]

I'll send you the sessionstore.json.
Anyway I fixed the problem this way: using the MacBook I converted all the tabs 
in bookmarks, then the opposite in my iMac. Now the sessionstore file is about 
2,1 MB instead of more than 40 MB! I have 10 windows for a total of about 310 tabs.

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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 26/05/19 alle 11:35:



Gabriel wrote:


It's the sessionstore.json file!
I started the new 2.53 profile with the old sessionstore (and I also 
deselected many tabs), and it crashes after loading a few pages. The real 
problem is that even after rapidly closing SM (as soon I saw the graphical 
glitches I pressed cmd-q many times), the iMac was very unstable and I had to 
reboot.


Now what? May I send the sessionstore file to you to check it out?



Session restore in SeaMonkey and Firefox differs so that is one area where 
different code is used. I would try to disable hardware accelearation in 
Appearance->Content. If you trust me you can send me the session store file but 
be advised that it may contain personal information even if only the urls but 
some other stuff from the history may be in too.


Ultimately it is a macOS bug. The only guy in our team who runs it under macOS 
is unable to upgrade because he has an older mac.



Hi, I did a few other tests and the result is interesting.
I installed Mojave on an empty external HDD and put SM 2.53 on it, then used it 
to boot a MacBook Pro retina mid-2014 and it worked; I then copied in the 
profile folder my "corrupted" sessionstore file and... it didn't crash!

I moved this HDD to my iMac 5K late-2015: badly crashed.
The main difference between these two Mac is the GPU and on my iMac it's the 
GPU which is going crazy with SM and it restarts the whole machine.

The MBP has an Intel Iris Pro (1536 MB), the iMac an AMD Radeon R9 M390 2GB.

I also switched off the hardware acceleration in SM on the iMac but that didn't 
help, on or off it's the same.


So: my (big) sessionstore.json + iMac 10.14.5 with AMD R9 390 = crash.

What I'm also wondering is why neither of SM and Mojave create a crash report! 
macOS doesn't send the usual crash report after the reboot and the "crashes" 
folder in SM is empty.


So what do you thing about all this mess?
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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

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Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 24/05/19 alle 16:20:



Gabriel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 24/05/19 alle 12:54:



Well 2.57 is basically Firefox 60.7 with a few SeaMonkey specific work in 
progress fixes. Nothing which should bring a mac down. Did you try Firefox 
60.7 for comparision. If this also crashes you might report a bug against it 
but in any case it will probably either be hardware related or a bug in 
macOS. I will try 2.53 on my mini Mac later.




Firefox 60.7 runs flawlessy, I use it without any issue.
The only program that crashed the whole machine so badly is SM 2.53, among 
dozens I have and use regularly, after I updated Mojave to 10.14.5




Bummer but I can't reproduce it here. Installed Bills latest build. Runs fine 
as far as I see it:


https://imgur.com/a/g9BzpSr




It's the sessionstore.json file!
I started the new 2.53 profile with the old sessionstore (and I also deselected 
many tabs), and it crashes after loading a few pages. The real problem is that 
even after rapidly closing SM (as soon I saw the graphical glitches I pressed 
cmd-q many times), the iMac was very unstable and I had to reboot.


Now what? May I send the sessionstore file to you to check it out?

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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 24/05/19 alle 16:20:



Gabriel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 24/05/19 alle 12:54:



Well 2.57 is basically Firefox 60.7 with a few SeaMonkey specific work in 
progress fixes. Nothing which should bring a mac down. Did you try Firefox 
60.7 for comparision. If this also crashes you might report a bug against it 
but in any case it will probably either be hardware related or a bug in 
macOS. I will try 2.53 on my mini Mac later.




Firefox 60.7 runs flawlessy, I use it without any issue.
The only program that crashed the whole machine so badly is SM 2.53, among 
dozens I have and use regularly, after I updated Mojave to 10.14.5




Bummer but I can't reproduce it here. Installed Bills latest build. Runs fine 
as far as I see it:


https://imgur.com/a/g9BzpSr



Hi,
I did other tests and now I think the "culprit" is my profile.
First of all, my default boot disk is an external one (cause it's bigger than 
the original internal HD), so I installed SM 2.49.4 - 2.53 - 2.57 on the 
internal HDD and started the iMac with only that disk. Then I did a complete 
Mojave 10.14.5 installation.
So with a new profile I ran all 3 SM versions: they all worked (but in 2.57 the 
Mail doesn't, so I deleted it).
BUT when I started SM 2.53 using my original profile, the iMac crashed again 
with the same weird effects, the screen goes crazy like if the GPU was faulty.


So the question is: how is it possible that a (damaged) profile can crash 
Mojave  hard?

And, most important, is there a way to know which file of the profile is 
damaged?

Thank you :-)
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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 24/05/19 alle 12:54:



Gabriel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 22/05/19 alle 13:01:



Gabriel wrote:


[...]

I did some tests: I created a new user and installed SM 2.49.5, 2.53 and 2.57 
and started each of them with a new profile, then I used my previous 
sessionstore file.

2.49.5 runs fine, or at least it doesn't crash
2.53 crashes the whole iMac immediately!
2.57 at the first launch it seems not to load the websites and all the 
windows are labeled "untitled", then when I close and reopen it loads them 
but after a few seconds it crashes as badly as 2.53 :-(


Well 2.57 is basically Firefox 60.7 with a few SeaMonkey specific work in 
progress fixes. Nothing which should bring a mac down. Did you try Firefox 60.7 
for comparision. If this also crashes you might report a bug against it but in 
any case it will probably either be hardware related or a bug in macOS. I will 
try 2.53 on my mini Mac later.




Firefox 60.7 runs flawlessy, I use it without any issue.
The only program that crashed the whole machine so badly is SM 2.53, among 
dozens I have and use regularly, after I updated Mojave to 10.14.5


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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 22/05/19 alle 13:01:



Gabriel wrote:


[...]



It's not the usual kernel panic, I don't see the KP alert, but the effect is 
the same: it's like something really weird is happening to the GPU and then 
it restarts.


Doesn't matter if it only occurs with 2.53. There might be a problem in the 
2.53 release but if the mac crashes it is an apple problem too. I will look 
thru the ESR60 changes if I spot something recently wrt 10.14.5. Neglected 2.53 
a little lately because we need to get 2.49.5 out of the door.





I did some tests: I created a new user and installed SM 2.49.5, 2.53 and 2.57 
and started each of them with a new profile, then I used my previous 
sessionstore file.

2.49.5 runs fine, or at least it doesn't crash
2.53 crashes the whole iMac immediately!
2.57 at the first launch it seems not to load the websites and all the windows 
are labeled "untitled", then when I close and reopen it loads them but after a 
few seconds it crashes as badly as 2.53 :-(

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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 22/05/19 alle 08:56:
The 2.53 and 2.57 profiles are not interchangable. 2.57 has serious problems 
and is only for testing right now. If you go back to 2.53 please restore the 
profile form a backup.


Hi,

but 2.57 starts and doesn't crash, 2.53 completely crashes the whole Mac!
The problem with 2.57 is it doesn't restore the sessionstore file (but it shows 
the "do you want to restore" alert).

What do you mean by "2.53 and 2.57 profiles are not interchangable"?



I just upgraded to 10.14.5 but tested only the hopefully soon to be released 
2.49.5.


If the kernal panics it is an apple bug even if other programs work fine. A 
program may crash but it should never take down the kernel. I suggest you do a 
hardware test too even if the mac worked fine before. 10.14.5 might have 
exposed a defect.


It's not the usual kernel panic, I don't see the KP alert, but the effect is 
the same: it's like something really weird is happening to the GPU and then it 
restarts.
I did all sort of tests, CPU/GPU/RAM are fine, all the programs are working 
(even CPU and GPU intensive like some activities managed by BOINC distributed 
projects. I ran Cinebench tests several times, and TechTool Pro) it's only SM 
2.53 which is causing the crashing.


Can you try 2.53 on your 10.14.5? :-)

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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Paul Bergsagel ha scritto il 22/05/19 alle 03:37:
WFM using 2.49.4 and MacOS 10.14.5. Did you try safe mode or using a using a 
new profile?




I used 2.49.4 before and it worked, but since about 1 month I switched to 2.53 
and it worked too until yesterday after I updated macOS :-(

All the other programs are working.
If I start with a new profile and it works, how do I import all the previous 
data? I have some GBs of emails and a few hundreds of websites tabs in the 
current profile.

Thanx

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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Gabriel ha scritto il 22/05/19 alle 01:26:

Hi all,

today I updated my iMac to the latest Mojave 10.14.5 and now I can't use SM 
2.53 anymore! Suddendly the screen started to show graphical artifacts (like 
when the GPU is broken) and then the Mac restarted itself as in kernel panic! :-(


Other programs work fine. I tried SM 2.57 in safe mode but it doesn't correctly 
show the session restore window cause I can't see the button to start it.




I restarted the Mac normally, and SM 2.57 now shows the "would you like to 
restore your session?" window, but when I click on "restore previous session" 
nothing happens!
I'm going to try starting a new session and then restoring using a copy of the 
sessionstore.json file

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macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

today I updated my iMac to the latest Mojave 10.14.5 and now I can't use SM 
2.53 anymore! Suddendly the screen started to show graphical artifacts (like 
when the GPU is broken) and then the Mac restarted itself as in kernel panic! :-(


Other programs work fine. I tried SM 2.57 in safe mode but it doesn't correctly 
show the session restore window cause I can't see the button to start it.


Someone else is having the same issue? Thank you!
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SM 2.53 macOS really high memory and CPU usage

[Gabriel]

Hi, I'm opening a new thread about a previous topic cause this is for the 2.53 
release on macOS:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53

Build identifier: 20190329130005

Built from: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-esr60/rev/47a22611c960

I really like the debug menu in this version, especially the Performance and 
Memory pages.

The problem is the RAM usage on my iMac 5K (24Gb RAM).
I reseted the cache memory configuration to the "auto" setting (-1) that I 
previously had set to about 6GB, and now SM takes from 7 up to 12GB!

these are the current values:
- memory: 9,85 GB
- real memory: 5,02 GB
- compressed memory: 4,83 GB

With SM 2.49.4 I had a total of about 4/5 GB.

What is causing the annoying "colored rotating wheel" for about 30/60 seconds 
it's apparently a news server I added for all the NGs I'm following (about 20, 
with low volumes of messages): ssl-eu.astraweb.com
I'm pretty sure of this because SM doesn't hang so much when I'm only browsing 
websites or using my several IMAP accounts.


I think also the CPU usage is too high, even when SM is in background and in 
off-line mode it uses almost the double than Firefox!


In the about:memory page I see some errors:
=
WARNING: the following values are negative or unreasonably large.

explicit/(24 tiny)
explicit/(24 tiny)/heap-unclassified
page-faults-soft

This indicates a defect in one or more memory reporters. The invalid values are 
highlighted.

=

Even if I select all the option in the "Free Memory" panel nothing changes.


Can you suggest something to ameliorate the SM behaviour? Or is it the 2.57 
version better?


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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 20/03/2019 00:12:



Ant wrote:

On 3/19/2019 12:41 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > No problems. I know the pain. It will take a while (years?) to get SeaMonkey
 > onto the newer Gecko engines like Quantum to fix these issues. :(

There is no new Gecko engine. 56 is pretty close to 57 and not that much 
different from 60. Quantum is more of a marketing gag.


Oh. I thought that was the new Gecko engine, but v52 to v56 is a big change. 
SM needs that badly. :(


Pick Bills build and backup your profile:
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/

Halfway to 2.57 and based on latest 56 with now around 1200 patches.

Uses my patch queue and we accept filing bugs against it.



Hi, I installed 2.53 on my iMac 5K (24Gb RAM) and I see odd things with RAM.
I reseted the cache memory configuration to the "auto" setting (-1) that I 
previously had set to about 6GB, and now SM takes from 7 up to 12GB!

these are the current values:
- memory: 8,98 GB
- real memory: 5,20 GB
- compressed memory: 3,98 GB

With SM 2.49.4 I had a total of about 4/5 GB.

What is causing the annoying "colored rotating wheel" for about 30/60 seconds 
it's apparently a news server I added for all the NGs I'm following (about 20, 
with low volumes of messages): ssl-eu.astraweb.com
I'm pretty sure of this because SM doesn't hang so much when I'm only browsing 
websites or using my several IMAP accounts.


Can you suggest something to ameliorate the SM behaviour?

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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 20/03/2019 00:12:



Ant wrote:

On 3/19/2019 12:41 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > No problems. I know the pain. It will take a while (years?) to get SeaMonkey
 > onto the newer Gecko engines like Quantum to fix these issues. :(

There is no new Gecko engine. 56 is pretty close to 57 and not that much 
different from 60. Quantum is more of a marketing gag.


Oh. I thought that was the new Gecko engine, but v52 to v56 is a big change. 
SM needs that badly. :(


Pick Bills build and backup your profile:
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/




Hi,

I can't connect today "The connection was refused when attempting to contact 
www.wg9s.com".

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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

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Daniel wrote on 23/03/2019 04:15:

Gabriel wrote on 23/03/2019 2:42 AM:




I don't have plugins installed, but these extensions:
- duplicate this tab
- font finder
- instagram video download
- remove duplicate messages


Hey, Gabriel, this extension, 'Remove Duplicate Messages' Does it remove 
duplicate messages on a newsgroup, or does it remove duplicate message with-in 
an individual folder or does it remove duplicate messages in separate folders 
with-in a profile??


If the latter, where can I get it??



It should remove duplicate messages in the same email folder, but on my 
installation it's not working; I got it from thunderbird extensions and then 
convert it following a suggestion I had on this NG.

it's called "Remove Duplicate Messages (Alternate)"
http://removedupes.mozdev.org/

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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 21/03/2019 22:25:

 > I'm going to try it on macOS, what should I be careful about with this 2.53
 > release?

Nothing. Just have a profile backup ready in case you want to go back to 2.49.x. 
I am using it daily on Windows and also tested on macOS.
Just be advised that it is 64 bit only (shouldn't be a problem) and also that 
binary extensions and plugins other than Flash and no longer work.


Some classic extensions might need updates but latest classic NoScript and 
uBlock work fine.



I don't have plugins installed, but these extensions:
- duplicate this tab
- font finder
- instagram video download
- remove duplicate messages
- true full screen
- web developer

The only ones that I use often are Duplicate This Tab and Web Developer.

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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 20/03/2019 00:12:



Ant wrote:

On 3/19/2019 12:41 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > No problems. I know the pain. It will take a while (years?) to get SeaMonkey
 > onto the newer Gecko engines like Quantum to fix these issues. :(

There is no new Gecko engine. 56 is pretty close to 57 and not that much 
different from 60. Quantum is more of a marketing gag.


Oh. I thought that was the new Gecko engine, but v52 to v56 is a big change. 
SM needs that badly. :(


Pick Bills build and backup your profile:
http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/

Halfway to 2.57 and based on latest 56 with now around 1200 patches.

Uses my patch queue and we accept filing bugs against it.



I'm going to try it on macOS, what should I be careful about with this 2.53 
release?

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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

[Gabriel]

Ant wrote on 17/03/2019 00:29:

On 3/16/2019 12:27 PM, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Ant via support-seamonkey a écrit :

On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote:

This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- including 4
for the application FACEBOOK.

It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)

Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?


No. Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are the big memory and CPU hoggers in my 
SeaMonkey usages especially with multiple tabs. I always have to exit and 
relaunch SM to regain them after using these web sites. :(


 Maybe. But I see that Facebook or Linkedin eat less memory when I open 
them on Firefox or Chromium...


SeaMonkey v2.49.4 (basically Firefox v52) is still using old Gecko engine 
compared to the (new/lat)est Firefox web browsers that use Quantum. :(




Hi, I'm using both Firefox and SeaMonkey (and Safari) and I see a lot of 
differences in speed and hangs.
Firefox does not hang even with a lot of tabs (and many Facebook pages and 
groups in different tabs, YouTube videos and other huge websites), while I have 
SM blocked many times a day.

And this is on iMac 5K with 24GB of RAM!

One main difference I see on macOS between Firefox and SM is that FF splits the 
load in several processes (they were 4, now 8 with FF 66) while SM is just one 
big application.

Eg. now I have:
- SeaMonkey 3,58 GB
- Firefox 825 MB
- FirefoxCP WebExtensions 362 MB
- FirefoxCP Web Content 485 MB
- FirefoxCP Web Content 425 MB
- FirefoxCP Web Content 206 MB

Why this is not applied to SM?
http://www.erahm.org/2019/03/13/doubling-the-number-of-content-processes-in-firefox/

PS: SeaMnokey is also using more CPU than Firefox, even when it's in background!
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Re: Should the size of the memory cache be a setting in preferences?

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Dirk Munk wrote on 27/02/2019 13:34:

Gabriel wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote on 27/02/2019 10:53:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Dear Frank-Rainer

This is *not* a bug!

It's very simple, if you open more tabs, you will need more memory. The 
default memory setting simply is not sufficient for 'power users' with many 
tabs open.


What I see here is what I've seen many times before. In a 32 bit environment, 
memory constraints are very important, on OS level and application level. All 
kinds of settings are done with the mindset of conserving memory.


When the OS or the application is moved to 64 bit, very often no one thinks 
about removing memory constraints, so applications still run as if they were 
32 bit applications. What should be done is checking all kind of memory 
settings, and change these settings to let them use (much) more memory. After 
all, that is the only purpose of 64 bit operating systems and applications, 
make it possible to use more memory!

[cut]


Hello,

I really would like an official answer from the SM developers on this matter.
I followed your advice to increase the allocated RAM (on the previous thread 
about it) to 4GB and *nothing* has ameliorate.
*But* I'm on macOS and I've always seen SM using a lot of RAM, really too much 
for a (modern) browser that should load the tabs only when they are actually 
in use. It should not matter if there are 150 tabs, but only 30 are loaded 
because you are reading these websites.

SeaMonkey for macOS is already 64bit.

Still my SM 2.49.4 is hanging a lot of times a day, with CPU spikes to 90/100% 
and the colored spinning wheel for 30 seconds. I observed this is happening 
more often since I added a new news-server (astraweb).


Any clue?

Thank you.



It could have something to do with network settings in Seamonkey. For instance 
there is a setting network.http.max-connections , you can try to increase it. I 
have it at 512 at the moment.


In SM for macOS the default is already at 900!



There are many other of those kind of settings that I have increased over time 
to remove restrictions. It seems you are running into some kind of restriction 
somewhere, and now we have to figure out which one it is.


It would be useful to have a list with the details.
I now increased "network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server" from 6 to 
8.
I can't find a specific setting for the news-servers, but I also increasd 
"network.websocket.max-connections" from 200 to 400.




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Re: Should the size of the memory cache be a setting in preferences?

[Gabriel]

Dirk Munk wrote on 27/02/2019 10:53:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Dear Frank-Rainer

This is *not* a bug!

It's very simple, if you open more tabs, you will need more memory. The default 
memory setting simply is not sufficient for 'power users' with many tabs open.


What I see here is what I've seen many times before. In a 32 bit environment, 
memory constraints are very important, on OS level and application level. All 
kinds of settings are done with the mindset of conserving memory.


When the OS or the application is moved to 64 bit, very often no one thinks 
about removing memory constraints, so applications still run as if they were 32 
bit applications. What should be done is checking all kind of memory settings, 
and change these settings to let them use (much) more memory. After all, that is 
the only purpose of 64 bit operating systems and applications, make it possible 
to use more memory!

[cut]


Hello,

I really would like an official answer from the SM developers on this matter.
I followed your advice to increase the allocated RAM (on the previous thread 
about it) to 4GB and *nothing* has ameliorate.
*But* I'm on macOS and I've always seen SM using a lot of RAM, really too much 
for a (modern) browser that should load the tabs only when they are actually in 
use. It should not matter if there are 150 tabs, but only 30 are loaded because 
you are reading these websites.

SeaMonkey for macOS is already 64bit.

Still my SM 2.49.4 is hanging a lot of times a day, with CPU spikes to 90/100% 
and the colored spinning wheel for 30 seconds. I observed this is happening more 
often since I added a new news-server (astraweb).


Any clue?

Thank you.

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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

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Dirk Munk wrote on 14/02/2019 19:13:

Gabriel wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote on 14/02/2019 14:51:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I'm using the 64 bit builds of WG9s.

I'm very happy with them in general.

However, after installing a new version of 2.49.5 a short while ago, I  
experienced some weird problems like keystrokes that became garbled, very 
sluggish responses etc. A new upgrade to 2.53 didn't help, so I tried to 
figure out what might be the cause.


Then I had a hunch, and I checked the config file for the browser cache 
setting. It was just about 0.5 GB, and I'm sure it was much bigger.


I've now increased browser.cache.memory.capacity to 2 GB (2097152), and all 
problems are gone.
After increasing browser.cache.memory.capacity to 4 GB (4194304), the browser 
runs even more smoothly. Nice.



What's the difference with the "let SM manage the size of my cache" preference?


That is the disk cache, so files on disk, I'm talking about the memory cache, in 
RAM.



Maybe that setting is Windows only, because on my Mac I see SM using a lot of 
RAM between 3 and 5 GB (I have 24 GB) and it's not so fast anyway (it often 
freezes), even if the value for "browser.cache.memory.capacity" is "20".

Shouldn't be the OS to decide the amount of RAM?

Do you know what "browser.cache.memory.max_entry_size" is about?

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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[Gabriel]

Dirk Munk wrote on 14/02/2019 14:51:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I'm using the 64 bit builds of WG9s.

I'm very happy with them in general.

However, after installing a new version of 2.49.5 a short while ago, I  
experienced some weird problems like keystrokes that became garbled, very 
sluggish responses etc. A new upgrade to 2.53 didn't help, so I tried to 
figure out what might be the cause.


Then I had a hunch, and I checked the config file for the browser cache 
setting. It was just about 0.5 GB, and I'm sure it was much bigger.


I've now increased browser.cache.memory.capacity to 2 GB (2097152), and all 
problems are gone.
After increasing browser.cache.memory.capacity to 4 GB (4194304), the browser 
runs even more smoothly. Nice.



What's the difference with the "let SM manage the size of my cache" preference?
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How to install "remove duplicate messages alternate"?

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

I need to clean some local mail folders, is there a way to install the add-on 
"remove_duplicate_messages_alternate-0.3.17b1-tb.xpi"? On SM 2.49.4 macOS.


If not, what do you suggest to remove duplicate messages?
TIA!

G.
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Re: Can't see news messages when offline except with view source

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Daniel wrote on 06/01/2019 09:51:

Gabriel wrote on 6/01/2019 4:41 AM:

Hi,

my ISP closed its news server, but I had the synchronization ON and previously 
downloaded all the messages.
The weird thing is I can't see them in the normal main window, I only can see 
their content with cmd-U (view message source).

Why does that happen and how to fix it?

My SM is:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711181801


Thanx!


Gabriel, when you attempt to view the messages that you have previously 
downloaded in the normal main window (and fail), is your SeaMonkey showing as 
being on-line?? (there's a little connectoid thingee down in the bottom-right of 
screen, indicating if you are on-line (closed) or off-line (separated))


A OK :-)
I was always on-line.




If that connectiod thingee is showing you as on-line, when you select a message, 
SeaMonkey tries to get on-line and download the message ... and fails miserably! 
I don't know how your Cmd-U fits into this!!




That's why. So also the cmd-U "source" should fail, but it's not. This is why I 
didn't think about going offline :-(


Anyway now I removed that server, I'll try with another one to see if it has the 
same behaviour.


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[Gabriel]

Hi,

my ISP closed its news server, but I had the synchronization ON and previously 
downloaded all the messages.
The weird thing is I can't see them in the normal main window, I only can see 
their content with cmd-U (view message source).

Why does that happen and how to fix it?

My SM is:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711181801


Thanx!
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Re: Weird IMAP folder size (SM 2.49.4 for Mac)

[Gabriel]

Gabriel wrote on 22/11/2018 13:45:

Hi all,

I'm using SM 2.49.4 (build 20180711181801) on Mac Mojave and I have a weird bug 
with an IMAP folder.
In the Finder that folder was about 600 MB but I know it can't be so big, while 
in SeaMonkey the size is 192 MB (which should be correct).
So I did a "repair folder" and the size in the Finder grew up to 805 MB! WTH? 
It's still 192 in SeaMonkey.




[...]

After synchronizing the whole IMAP account (Going Offline -> download) the big 
folder now is 200 MB instead of 805! Which seems correct, but I'm still 
wondering what caused that size issue.


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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Gabriel]

Ant wrote on 22/11/2018 14:16:

On 11/21/2018 11:33 AM, Gabriel wrote:

Ant wrote on 17/11/2018 20:29:
Mine was about 33.2 MB! 


[cut]

Mine is 62,6 MB! And SM is taking *a lot* of RAM too, more than 5GB on my iMac 
with macOS Mojave.


Wow. Isn't there a known bug in macOS Mojave with SM?



I now deleted the webappsstore.sqlite file, and will monitor its size (after 
deleting and restarting SM it's 950 KB).
The real problem is the RAM usage. No other issues, apart I can't add a photo to 
the Photo application with drag-n-drop from an email message (but this is not a 
Mojave bug, it's a SM one since about 3 releases ago).



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[Gabriel]

Hi all,

I'm using SM 2.49.4 (build 20180711181801) on Mac Mojave and I have a weird bug 
with an IMAP folder.
In the Finder that folder was about 600 MB but I know it can't be so big, while 
in SeaMonkey the size is 192 MB (which should be correct).
So I did a "repair folder" and the size in the Finder grew up to 805 MB! WTH? 
It's still 192 in SeaMonkey.


So I'm thinking of deleting the folder and download it again from the server, 
but I really would like to know why it's so big in the Finder.


I don't see that behaviour with other folders on the same account, nor many 
others I have on the same server.



Thanks a lot for your advices!

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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

[Gabriel]

Ant wrote on 17/11/2018 20:29:
Mine was about 33.2 MB! 


[cut]

Mine is 62,6 MB! And SM is taking *a lot* of RAM too, more than 5GB on my iMac 
with macOS Mojave.



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Re: can't log-in to PayPal with SM 2.49.4

[Gabriel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 29/08/18 11:42:

Gabriel wrote:


Hello all,

suddendly the PayPal account page can't be accessed because of an alert 
stating the browser is not updated, and it suggests to download newer "Edge, 
Chrome, Firefox, Safari".


Thsi happens after I click on log-in button.

Works fine for me with SM 2.49.4.



Guess what? it works with one account, but not with another I have.

PS: paypal.it or paypal.com doesn't matter
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Re: can't log-in to PayPal with SM 2.49.4

[Gabriel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 29/08/18 11:42:

Gabriel wrote:


Hello all,

suddendly the PayPal account page can't be accessed because of an alert 
stating the browser is not updated, and it suggests to download newer "Edge, 
Chrome, Firefox, Safari".


Thsi happens after I click on log-in button.

Works fine for me with SM 2.49.4.



What PayPal domain are you log-in to?
I'm using www.paypal.it not the .com one
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Re: can't log-in to PayPal with SM 2.49.4

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 29/08/18 10:38:

Make sure you have TLS 1.2 checked in Privacy & Security SSL/TLS.



It is.
And I could log-in just a few days ago, so I think PayPal changed something on 
their side.


PS: when will SM add TLS 1.3?
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How to merge/move newsgroups folders when changing the server?

[Gabriel]

Hi,

the news server I used since about 10 years has beeen shut off, now I'm going to 
move to a new one. Is it possible to keep all the settings for the new server?
I mean I downloded locally some groups and their messages, I'd like to keep the 
settings such as already read/followed threads.


Thank you!
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can't log-in to PayPal with SM 2.49.4

[Gabriel]

Hello all,

suddendly the PayPal account page can't be accessed because of an alert stating 
the browser is not updated, and it suggests to download newer "Edge, Chrome, 
Firefox, Safari".


Thsi happens after I click on log-in button.

I already wrote to PayPal support, but is this a correct behaviour by them? I 
don't think so.


My currect user agent is:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711181801
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Re: What's with all those Spanish or Italian Posts - pedofile ?

[Gabriel]

WaltS48 wrote on 28/10/17 20:05:

On 10/28/17 1:21 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Why can't the Site Manager erase them ?
Filter them out?

DoctorBill



What site manager?



[cut]

Who is in charge of the mozilla news server?
They should kill the feed from other servers for that spam (well, it's not spam, 
but defamation).


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Re: What's with all those Spanish or Italian Posts - pedofile ?

[Gabriel]

NFN Smith wrote on 30/10/17 15:55:

WaltS48 wrote:



Match any of the following > Subject > Contains. Mark As Read then Delete.

Some of the words I use are the one in the topics subject, ocho, truffatore, 
mafioso, berlusconi, CRIMINALE,


That's what I'm doing.

My list also includes 'mafi' (for mafia, mafioso, mafiosi), barrai, and rossi.

I also use this filter set in several other Mozilla newsgroups, and it's been a 
long time since I've seen any of the Italian stuff.


It's definitely bot-generated, and unfortunately (as somebody else in this 
thread mentioned) it's not worth trying to filter on originating server. Too 
many involved.




It's not a bot AFAIK, it's from a mentally disturbed guy (maybe two, but there's 
one principal source).


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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 25/09/17 18:58:
2.49.1 is currently being build but we ran into a problem with Lightning. The 
first candidate builds should work but Lightning 5.4 can not be installed If you 
do it is is broken. Fix is in the works but delays the version a bit unfortunately:


https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.1-candidates/build1/mac/en-US/ 





Hi,

great :-) no more crashes when opening the Mail.

There are only 2 little annoying things:
1) When I open the Mail window for the first time, it takes a lot to ask for the 
accounts password (the spinning wheel stays for 30+ seconds);
2) sometimes it says I entered a wrong password (for all the acounts) while it 
didn't even contact the mail server.

But these are issues already present in SM since 2.40 as far as I can remember.

Anyway, SM 2.49.1 is working on El Capitan, thank you!

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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 03/08/17 08:04:

It is probably bug 1286613:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1286613

Solution is unfortunately to go back to 2.46 and wait for 2.49.1. Not sure if we
can backport all the parts to 2.48 and do a 2.48.1

I tested 2.48 including mail in 10.12.6 and it worked for me so not everyone
seems to be affected. If you are still on 10.11.x or lower you should be good 
too.



Hello,

I waited until today to try the 2.48 for Mac, but I confirm it crashes as soon 
as you open the Mail window.


In the "known issues" page 
(https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.48/#new) it's written 
this happens with macOS 10.12 but I'm using El Capitan (OS X 10.11.6) and it 
crashes.

I had to reinstall SM 2.46

Eg:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/456c0c04-feb1-4ffb-8998-99e8b0170925


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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 25/07/17 09:45:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/



Hello,

what's the mozharness.zip file?

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Re: URL with punycode = easy phishing

[Gabriel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 15/04/17 20:05:

The current "patch" is just a flipped pref which you can flip yourself in
about:config

Set network.IDN_show_punycode to true.
Other than setting this as the default I do not know how this could be fixed
differently by anyone. Maybe putting an icon or something in the status bar.
Firefox will likely add another doorhanger because they got rid of the status
bar and now clutter the location bar to make it finally unusable...


I know about the manual preference change, but I think it would be better if the 
browser shown an alert or as you suggest a special icon near the URL; or just do 
as Safari and always show the "xn--".

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Re: nasty bug with sessionstore when SM is launched by another app

[Gabriel]

Gabriel wrote on 21/03/16 01:23:

Hi,

I saw this bug several times with different SM versions on OS X.

When another application opens SM and asks for a webpage, the sessionstore file
is being emptied! I mean that SM will not open the pages/tabs it saved from the
last sessions, but will start as if it was the first time.
And if you go on working with SM that way, also the sessionstore.bak will be 
empty.

I had to restore my (big) sessionstore.json from TimeMachine.

Eg: if you select the Help menu on Toast 14, it opens SM and a Roxio webpage,
the sessionstore will record only that page.




After 1 year, the bug is still there!

Every time SeaMonkey is launched from another application to open an URL, all 
the previous stored sessions are deleted!
And the sessionstore.bak does not save a previous copy, I'm wondering what's its 
purpose.


Does this happen on OSX only ? Please can someone try?

thanx

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Re: SM 2.46 Mac - New Message shortcut issue

[Gabriel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 27/03/17 13:30:

Gabriel wrote:

Hello,

it was always working with previous versions, now with 2.46 the
keyboard shortcut has a bug: - if the main window is the Mail one the
keyboard shortcut (shift-cmd-M) does work; - if the Browser window is
the main one it doesn't work and the Tools menu flashes as if there
was a shortcut somewhere.

Can someone try to reproduce this problem? TIA.


Are you sure about that "shift"? In Windows versions, "new message" has always
been simply Ctrl-M, which should correspond to your Cmd-M.



Hi,

yes I am sure!

In OS X cmd-M = minimize the active window // shift-cmd-M = new Message




And here, Ctrl-M works whether the Mail/News or Browser window has focus.

In the Mail/News window, confirm the shortcut by pulling down "Message..." at 
top.



I confirm what I've previously written.
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[Gabriel]

Hello,

it was always working with previous versions, now with 2.46 the keyboard 
shortcut has a bug:

- if the main window is the Mail one the keyboard shortcut (shift-cmd-M) does 
work;
- if the Browser window is the main one it doesn't work and the Tools menu 
flashes as if there was a shortcut somewhere.


Can someone try to reproduce this problem? TIA.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 released

[Gabriel]

PhillipJones wrote on 22/12/16 20:45:



Just went to help menu check for updates 2.46 come right up. Installed and
currently using (mac version)  I am using MacOS 12.2.2 the way the security is
in Sierra if its defective it won't install.




My SM 2.40 Mac version says there's no update available (the current ID is 
20160120191716)!

So I had to download v. 2.46 manually.
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Too much RAM used (again) SM 2.40 for Mac

[Gabriel]

Hi,

I have again the problem of too much RAM being used by:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:43.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40

Build identifier: 20160120191716

It starts with about 1.6 GB and grows up to 3 GB after a few hours! Compressed 
memory varies a lot.

This is causing crashes, and a lot of spinning wheel.

These are my last crash reports:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b71a28fa-b260-459f-8032-4262a2160513
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/82d6e9ae-8270-4a6e-81eb-303e12160515

Is it something I can do to fix this issue?
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Re: 404 errors for MD5 and SHA1 check page

[Gabriel]

WaltS48 wrote on 21/03/16 01:44:

On 03/20/2016 08:34 PM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

the links here are wrong:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.40

404:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.40/MD5SUMS

404:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.40/SHA1SUMS



Maybe the checksums file is what you are looking for. Assuming by your UA in
the header of your post you are a Mac user.

<https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.40/mac/en-US/>



Thank you very much :-)
that worked
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404 errors for MD5 and SHA1 check page

[Gabriel]

Hi,

the links here are wrong:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.40

404:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.40/MD5SUMS

404:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.40/SHA1SUMS

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nasty bug with sessionstore when SM is launched by another app

[Gabriel]

Hi,

I saw this bug several times with different SM versions on OS X.

When another application opens SM and asks for a webpage, the sessionstore file 
is being emptied! I mean that SM will not open the pages/tabs it saved from the 
last sessions, but will start as if it was the first time.

And if you go on working with SM that way, also the sessionstore.bak will be 
empty.

I had to restore my (big) sessionstore.json from TimeMachine.

Eg: if you select the Help menu on Toast 14, it opens SM and a Roxio webpage, 
the sessionstore will record only that page.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Gabriel]

Adrian Kalla wrote on 19/03/16 06:40:

W dniu 03/17/2016 o 08:09 PM, Gabriel pisze:

I already have this release:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:43.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
Build identifier: 20160120191716

Do I need to download the current full installer, or is it the same
version?


Yes, you do, as your build is from January, not March...



Thank you.

Is it normal that the "check for updates" doesn't compare the builds?
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 released

[Gabriel]

Edmund Wong wrote on 14/03/16 16:48:

Greetings,

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.40!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Please note that the website information, while updated for
2.40, still requires a bit more work.


[cut]


Hi,

I already have this release:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:43.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40

Build identifier: 20160120191716

Do I need to download the current full installer, or is it the same version?

TIA :-)


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deleting IMAP accounts doesn't delete their folders

[Gabriel]

Hi,

I think this is a bug, when you delete an IMAP account from SM 2.40 its folder 
on disk is not deleted. Why?


G.
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Re: how to copy IMAP messages to local folder? mail server unavailable

[Gabriel]

Mason83 wrote on 30/01/16 20:41:

On 30/01/2016 18:10, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 28/01/2016 22:52, Gabriel wrote:

Nothing happens. This is really odd. Do you know if there's a safe way to move
it "manually"?


Go into your profile data folder.
ImapMail/server_name/

and the files without .msf contain the message data
(one file per mail folder)


I wouldn't call modifying those particularly safe, although it should be
possible. If you decide to try, make a backup of your profile first and
carefully check the affected folders afterwards.

Apart from moving the mail content from one file to another (the files
without extensions) you might also need to delete the corresponding .msf
files so SeaMonkey regenerates the indexes.


I would create a epty new folder called temp. This should be 0 bytes.
Then I would copy the whole file, and use SM to delete unwanted messages.



Hello,

I had to manually create the folders (name.sbd) and then I copied the Inbox and 
other files inside of it. If you create the empty folder from SM instead, you 
get a file.

Anyway, it's working now.

I'm wondering why SM didn't actually delete the IMAP folders at Finder level 
when I deleted the accounts, I'm going to open a new thread about this.


G.
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Report web forgery doesn't work on SM 2.40

[Gabriel]

Hi,

I needed to submit some phishing websites, but the Report Web Forgery (under 
Help menu) doesn't work; I mean that it does nothing, and after I select it a 
few times it even disapper.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:43.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40

Build identifier: 20160120191716


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Re: how to copy IMAP messages to local folder? mail server unavailable

[Gabriel]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 28/01/16 20:11:

Gabriel wrote:

I need to move some messages from a few IMAP accounts to a local folder,
but the mail server is no longer available. I did set these accounts to
synchronize every message, and I do see them so they must be already on
my disk;


Can you actually open the message from where it is and read the content, or do
you only see the subject, date, etc. in the list of messages? If you can't open
the message, it may be that only the headers are downloaded, not the full 
message.


I see the whole message, because I've already selected to synchronize the 
account and I also downloaded everything (using Offline command).





but when I try to drag-and-drop to move them to a local folder
nothing happens, and if I use the menu move/copy SM alerts me that the
mail server is unreachable.

So, how can I move them to another folder?


You could try setting SeaMonkey to offline mode - File > Offline > Work
Offline. I don't know if that will work, but it might be enough to tell
SeaMonkey to work with the cached copy, rather than trying to get any updates
from the server first.


It is working with the cached copy, because the mail server has been shut off.
The domain doesn't even exist anymore.



You may also have more luck copying rather than moving the message, since that
won't try to delete the copy off the server.


Nothing happens. This is really odd. Do you know if there's a safe way to move 
it "manually"?


thanx

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how to copy IMAP messages to local folder? mail server unavailable

[Gabriel]

Hi,

I need to move some messages from a few IMAP accounts to a local folder, but 
the mail server is no longer available. I did set these accounts to synchronize 
every message, and I do see them so they must be already on my disk; but when I 
try to drag-and-drop to move them to a local folder nothing happens, and if I 
use the menu move/copy SM alerts me that the mail server is unreachable.


So, how can I move them to another folder?

Thank you.
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Re: SM 2.39 OS X too much memory used

[Gabriel]

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 20/01/16 04:42:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:25:22 +0100, Gabriel <user@domain.invalid>
wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote on 19/01/16 16:15:


Could you post your about:memory report here when it grows that big.



Here it is:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dr4di3yeu33qman/SeaMonkey2.39-memory-report.json.gz?dl=0


Any chance you could try with the 2.40 candidate build and see if
things improve?
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.40-candidates/build3/mac/en-US/


I installed it, apparently there is a better use of compressed memory, and the
total memory is a little bit lower; but I'm going to test it tomorrow.


That's a positive sign. Do as you usually do, beat it up, give it a
good kicking and use it as you normally would. And you are at 10.11.3
right (was just released today, soon to followed by 10.11.4)? We've
noticed a large performance increase in going from 10.11.1 to 10.11.2
at my org. Haven't yet bumped to 10.11.3, waiting on the Guinea pigs
first. ;-)



Hi,

after 15 hours the used memory grown up to about 2.4GB (medium I'd say 1.8/2) 
but some 40% was compressed. I think SM 2.40 is still normally usable even if 
using a lot of RAM, while the previous versions become s slow with the same 
values.

Also the connections to my mail server are faster.
I'm with OS X 10.11.3 now.

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Re: SM 2.39 OS X too much memory used

[Gabriel]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote on 19/01/16 16:15:


Could you post your about:memory report here when it grows that big.



Here it is:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dr4di3yeu33qman/SeaMonkey2.39-memory-report.json.gz?dl=0


Any chance you could try with the 2.40 candidate build and see if
things improve?
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.40-candidates/build3/mac/en-US/


I installed it, apparently there is a better use of compressed memory, and the 
total memory is a little bit lower; but I'm going to test it tomorrow.


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Re: SM 2.39 OS X too much memory used

[Gabriel]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote on 19/01/16 16:15:

Hi everybody,

SeaMonkey for OS X is using *a lot* of RAM!
It starts with about 2 GB, never uses less than 1.7 and after a few hours it
can grow up to 3+ GB. Also the "compressed memory" (with EL Capitan) is not
more than 10% even when SM is put in background.
I do have a lot of windows and tabs, but I've set up to laod them only when
accessing their websites, so I don't think that memory usage is normal.
I have similar settings with Firefox and it's using much less RAM, especially
when it's in background.

Is it something I can do on my side to ameliorate this situation?

thank you.


Could you post your about:memory report here when it grows that big.


Hi,

the report is very long, I will save the anonymized one and upload it 
somehwere, ok?




Any chance you could try with the 2.40 candidate build and see if
things improve?
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.40-candidates/build3/mac/en-US/


I will :-)

Gabriel

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Re: SM 2.39 OS X too much memory used

[Gabriel]

Ed Mullen wrote on 17/01/16 16:47:

Gabriel wrote on 1/16/2016 6:52 AM:

Hi everybody,

SeaMonkey for OS X is using *a lot* of RAM!
It starts with about 2 GB, never uses less than 1.7 and after a few
hours it can grow up to 3+ GB. Also the "compressed memory" (with EL
Capitan) is not more than 10% even when SM is put in background.
I do have a lot of windows and tabs, but I've set up to laod them only
when accessing their websites, so I don't think that memory usage is
normal.
I have similar settings with Firefox and it's using much less RAM,
especially when it's in background.

Is it something I can do on my side to ameliorate this situation?

thank you.


Does it still do it in Safe Mode?




Hello Ed,

in Safe Mode, it started with about 1.35 growing to 1.45 GB after a few minutes 
so it's not so different. I didn't test it for hours though.



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SM 2.39 OS X too much memory used

[Gabriel]

Hi everybody,

SeaMonkey for OS X is using *a lot* of RAM!
It starts with about 2 GB, never uses less than 1.7 and after a few hours it 
can grow up to 3+ GB. Also the "compressed memory" (with EL Capitan) is not 
more than 10% even when SM is put in background.
I do have a lot of windows and tabs, but I've set up to laod them only when 
accessing their websites, so I don't think that memory usage is normal.
I have similar settings with Firefox and it's using much less RAM, especially 
when it's in background.


Is it something I can do on my side to ameliorate this situation?

thank you.
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Re: Lots of huge stuff on Apple's web pages? Found its cause...

[Gabriel]

Ant wrote on 17/09/15 05:10:

For an example, https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 shows HUGE font
sizes in my SeaMonkey v2.35 in both of my old, Windows XP Pro SP3, and
64-bit Debian (oldstable)/Linux (using SM contrib files). :(

Thank you in advance. :)


 From mozilla.support.firefox newsgroup since I was able to reproduce it in
Firefox v40.0.3, "Minimum font size" has to be to none! :(



Oh dear,

yesterday I was so upset because of this, trying to read some support page 
about an error when trying to update iOS 9 !!!


Thank you so much :)

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Re: Cache in 2.35?

[Gabriel]

Mason83 wrote on 12/09/15 10:42:

On 11/09/2015 20:32, Philip Chee wrote:

On 10/09/2015 18:27, Tom Pamin wrote:

Is cache once again handled differently in 2.35? Instaed of cache2, is
it back to using just the cache folder? I also have a cache.trash4895
folder now too?


Yes we switched back to the old cache code. You can delete everything in
/cache2/ directory now.


So compacting IMAP folders should no longer crash?
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1158578


For me it is still crashing, even with 2.38:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:41.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38

Build identifier: 20150903213426

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/74d1200f-459f-4bac-94b7-425932150908



I have reverted browser.cache.use_new_backend to default = 0
Is that appropriate?



I'm interested in knowing that too :)


G.

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Re: Help with DNSunlocker

[Gabriel]

Rob Steinmetz wrote on 09/09/15 15:52:

No one has any ideas?



Hi,

try following this guide:
http://howtoremove.guide/dns-unlocker-removal-chrome/

And also reset the TCP/IP stack using TCP Optimizer:
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php


HTH :)

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Re: Help with DNSunlocker

[Gabriel]

David E. Ross wrote on 09/09/15 21:05:

On 9/9/2015 6:52 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

No one has any ideas?

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I gotten a bad case of DNSunlocker and I can't figure out how to get rid
of it. I've tried all of the methods in the internet and run tw i virus
scans AVG and Clamwin. Nothing seems to work. Some of the procedure for
Firefox call for deleting extensions but I'm not seeing any extensions I
haven't loaded my self.




See .



decryptcryptolocker.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate 
expired on 18/07/15 01:59. The current time is 10/09/15 01:16. (Error code: 
sec_error_expired_certificate)



And anyway DNSunlocker is not an encrypting virus such as those of the 
crytowall family AFAIK.


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Re: SM 2.35 (Mac) still crashing when compating IMAP folders

[Gabriel]

Adrian Kalla wrote on 09/09/15 01:07:

W dniu 09/09/2015 o 01:00 AM, Gabriel pisze:

I could try the 2.38b1 but where's the OS X relase to download?


https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.38b1/mac/



I've found it, installed it:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:41.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38

Build identifier: 20150903213426

It still crashes:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/74d1200f-459f-4bac-94b7-425932150908


I like in 2.38 the new options to load remote images in email message though :)

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Re: SM 2.35 (Mac) still crashing when compating IMAP folders

[Gabriel]

Adrian Kalla wrote on 08/09/15 18:13:

W dniu 09/08/2015 o 05:50 PM, Gabriel pisze:

Hi,

I waited this new release hoping it would fix the IMAP crashes, but ...
it still do it!

My build:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
Build identifier: 20150825183433

After a crash, a lot of folders have to be rebuilt, cause the messages
are messed up. And I have 6 IMAP accounts with about 50 folders in them,
it's really annoying.

Can someone tell me when this problem will be solved?
I tried some preferences tuning I read about in older threads with no
positive result :(


See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066998 comments #58
and #59 (best option is probably to try SM 2.38 beta1 to see, if it's
gone there).




Hi,

disabling "browser.cache.use_new_backend_temp" did not work for me.
I could try the 2.38b1 but where's the OS X relase to download?

Thank you

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SM 2.35 (Mac) still crashing when compating IMAP folders

[Gabriel]

Hi,

I waited this new release hoping it would fix the IMAP crashes, but ... it 
still do it!


My build:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35

Build identifier: 20150825183433

After a crash, a lot of folders have to be rebuilt, cause the messages are 
messed up. And I have 6 IMAP accounts with about 50 folders in them, it's 
really annoying.


Can someone tell me when this problem will be solved?
I tried some preferences tuning I read about in older threads with no positive 
result :(



TIA


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Re: SM 2.35 (Mac) still crashing when compating IMAP folders

[Gabriel]

WaltS48 wrote on 08/09/15 18:10:

On 09/08/2015 11:50 AM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

I waited this new release hoping it would fix the IMAP crashes, but ...
it still do it!

My build:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
Build identifier: 20150825183433



[cut]


What is the crash ID from about:crashes?


http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-b55f735e-77a9-45d0-9ab3-13f0f2150907

http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-d26238b0-906a-4c6f-9bc9-de7a22150907

http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-ea9d6f6d-818e-426f-8f2f-7579d2150907




Is there a bug filed?



Uhm I dont' think so.
But it's always the same old IMAP bug since SM 2.29.1 AFAIK


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when will be IMAP compression be fixed?

[Gabriel]

Hello all,

does somone know when/if the crashing during IMAP compression will be fixed?

Such as:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/199372c5-0048-4147-af70-86f652150622


TIA

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32b2 released

[Gabriel]

Edmund Wong wrote on 22/12/14 09:55:

Greetings,

(Sorry. Skipped both the 2.31 and 2.32b1 releases..)

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32b2.
Please give it a spin.

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's New in
SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also contain a list of
known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general
overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit
www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/



Hi,

I don't see a fix for SM crashing when compacting IMAP folders...
any news about that?

thank you
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Re: can't watch QuickTime movies - SM 2.31 OS X Solution posted.

[Gabriel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 17/12/14 04:40:

Hi Gabriel,

I suspect you have the Flashblock extension installed.

Flashblock blocks Quicktime video and will not let it play. There are two ways
to get Quicktime video to play:

1. Add Apple.com to Flashblock's whitelist. To do this go to Tools-Add-ons
Manager and locate the preferences for Flashblock and add www.apple.com
(without the quotes) If a site uses the QuickTime plug-in for video you need to
add that site to Flashblock's whitelist for the video to play.


[cut]


Hi Paul,

I dont' have Flashblock on SM (I have it on FF), so I went to the plugins 
settings and changed the QuickTime option to always active instead of ask 
(it was not asking at all). Now it's working.
I think there's a little bug in the activation process when the QuickTime 
plugin is not loaded, because the same settings worked with other plugins such 
as Flash or PDF viewers.


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can't watch QuickTime movies - SM 2.31 OS X

[Gabriel]

Hi all,

in SM I can't view QuickTime movies such as:
http://www.apple.com/holiday/#film-holiday

The same problem with Firefox 34 , where I allowed the QuickTime plugin to be 
activated.

It works with Safari ...

My SeaMonkey version:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:34.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

Build identifier: 20141202221228


How can I fix that?

tnx
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SM 2.31 still crashing when compacting IMAP folders

[Gabriel]

Hi,

does anyone know if/when SeaMonkey will stop crashing every time an IMAP folder 
is compacted?
Since v. 2.29.1 (see my thread i_mdnr52dq-um7ljnz2dnuu7-uwdn...@mozilla.org) 
the issue was not resolved!


Also , is something broken with the Mozilla Crash Reports sysmen? I can't find 
any of my submitted crashes.



thank you
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Re: SM 2.31 still crashing when compacting IMAP folders

[Gabriel]

WaltS48 wrote on 16/12/14 18:38:

On 12/16/2014 12:21 PM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

does anyone know if/when SeaMonkey will stop crashing every time an IMAP
folder is compacted?
Since v. 2.29.1 (see my thread
i_mdnr52dq-um7ljnz2dnuu7-uwdn...@mozilla.org) the issue was not resolved!

Also , is something broken with the Mozilla Crash Reports sysmen? I
can't find any of my submitted crashes.




Post one here.




Apparently now the Mozilla Crash Reports website is working again, so here it 
is one of my latest report:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/cd984d82-29b1-4ae3-a9ed-c30952141215


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Re: 1Password extension (for OS X) with SM

[Gabriel]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote on 25/11/14 21:18:

Hello,

does anyone know how to (if it's possible) install the 1Password extension in 
SM?
It does work with Firefox :
https://agilebits.com/onepassword/extensions/firefox?beta=false

thank you
G.


See if this will help you: http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/



Thank you, I tried it but it didn't work.
The extension was installed, I see it in the add-ons manager, but it doesn't 
display in the toolbar.

I'm going to ask for support in the AgileBits forum.

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1Password extension (for OS X) with SM

[Gabriel]

Hello,

does anyone know how to (if it's possible) install the 1Password extension in 
SM?
It does work with Firefox :
https://agilebits.com/onepassword/extensions/firefox?beta=false

thank you
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Re: SM 2.29.1 crashes when compating some IMAP folders [on SM 2.30 too]

[Gabriel]

Chris Ilias wrote on 04/10/14 16.26:

On 2014-10-04 4:21 AM, Gabriel wrote:

does someone know how to check what is causing SM to crash every time I
compact an IMAP account? This was not happening with previous SM versions.


Does the Mozilla Crash Reporter come up? If so,
1. Open SeaMonkey.
2. Go to Help--Troubleshooting_Information. That should open a new tab with
info about your Firefox setup.
3. Under Crash Reports for the Last 3 Days click on your latest crash report.
That should take you to a web page starting with
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/;
4. Open a reply to this post and paste the address of your latest crash report.
We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a better idea of
what is causing the problem.



Hi,

the problem was not fixed in SM 2.30
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:33.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/33.0 SeaMonkey/2.30

Build identifier: 20141014004953

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/ee3d8c0f-9973-47b3-9e6d-399622141101

Do you know if someone is working on this IMAP compacting bug to fix it?

thank you!
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