Re: new form manager is great

[MikeyG]

On 2/22/2010 4:03 PM, Evan Davidson wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

I really love the new sort of fill-in-the-blank technique.
It takes a little getting used to because at first all you see is the
blank entry on the form. But as soon as you type the first letter the
pull down list of choice appears. This is great for managing both
login usernames and other stuff.


Is this a joke? One of the most frequently mentioned missing features
in SM 2 is a forms manager. What you have is a "fields manager," which
works on a per-field basis. So if I have a form with 50-60 things to
fill in (I do) and several sets of values for a few of these fields,
you get to go to each and every field, remembering every field that
changes, and select.

Think an order form where you have six offices where things are sent
and the recipient's name, address, phone, and billing info are SETS of
values rather than unrelated alternate values for each field.



Check out the Autofill Forms extension on Phil Chee's site at:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#autofillforms

Once you set it up to your liking, it will fill in a whole form at once.


I am a past, SeaMonkey user that left and began using Firefox because of 
2.0 abandoning the Old Form Manager. Jus', F. Y. I. I use InFormEnter 
with FireFox.I am not sure if it is available for SeaMonkey, but if it 
is, I think it is worth a try.


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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

[MikeyG]

On 1/19/2010 6:35 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

MikeyG wrote:

Having left Seamonkey for Firefox, when SM2 came out and poop canned
it's Form Manager, I was wondering if 'porting' some, of these Add-Ons
I'm using in Firefox only, need the install script adjusted to allow
them to install into Seamonkey, but I dunno.


I have hacked several FireFox addin's to work on SM2. I even wrote myself a
little program to do it.

Not much luck with Thunderbird ones though.



I'd think your program to hack FF's add-ons to SM would be appreciated 
by many; thought of putting it up at Moziilla's add-ons; if it ain't 
already?

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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

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On 1/19/2010 4:27 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


On 1/18/2010 9:39 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


Trying to fill the void left by the removal of the Form Manager in SM
1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and ''InFormEnter'' to be
sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out there looking for an
opinion of what 'Form Filler Add-On' others are using. - MikeyG


Thanks! Are both needed or just one? Then could you post a short
comparison?


Both appear to be for FireFox only.


Oh, poop! I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't of put this post here in
Seamonkey; I posted it in FF, and then, not thinking, posted it here,
too.


Oh, no, I think your post is OK here. Or how could we know about useful
add-ons that would need to be ported to SM (which often is a piece of
cake for authors and only takes one to write to them)?

Having left Seamonkey for Firefox, when SM2 came out and poop canned 
it's Form Manager, I was wondering if 'porting' some, of these Add-Ons 
I'm using in Firefox only, need the install script adjusted to allow 
them to install into Seamonkey, but I dunno.

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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

[MikeyG]

On 1/18/2010 9:39 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


Trying to fill the void left by the removal of the Form Manager in SM
1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and ''InFormEnter'' to be
sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out there looking for an
opinion of what 'Form Filler Add-On' others are using. - MikeyG


Thanks! Are both needed or just one? Then could you post a short
comparison?


Both appear to be for FireFox only.

The best one for SM so far is Forms History Manager.
Its not the greatest but it will do in a pinch. I agree with others it
was stupid and dumb to leave out. But the developers have made the
decision. They didn't have anyone with the smarts to, the desire to, or
the manpower to, figure out how to port the code. So it was left out
thinking nobody used it. Supposedly since they there has been such howls
of protest They might consider adding it back in a Future release.


Oh, poop! I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't of put this post here in 
Seamonkey; I posted it in FF, and then, not thinking, posted it here, too.

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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

[MikeyG]

On 1/18/2010 6:54 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


Trying to fill the void left by the removal of the Form Manager in SM
1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and ''InFormEnter'' to be
sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out there looking for an
opinion of what 'Form Filler Add-On' others are using. - MikeyG


Thanks! Are both needed or just one? Then could you post a short
comparison?

I would want to take a few moments to gather my thoughts on a 
comparison; I'd have to get back to ya' on that. They are not large 
downloads, (I go to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/addons/ match 
the number and save the xpi file), and takes jus', moments to install 
and / or uninstall; suggesting to get them and give each a shot. I have 
kept InForm Enter installed; it seems simpler; you can put any 'text' 
you want into it's options, and when a form comes up it puts an icon 
next to each field, click on that icon and a panel pops up,you select 
what you wana' enter. It puts that icon down at the bottom right of FF, 
too; clicking it, you can go to options or select a profile to use. I 
like it ... so far... jus' had a few hours.

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Form Assistance Add-Ons

[MikeyG]

It appears that no one is searching for what the best 'Form Filler 
Add-On' might be, and that no one is dis-satisfied with the 'Form Filler 
Add-On' they are using. Trying to fill the void left by the removal of 
the Form Manager in SM 1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and 
''InFormEnter'' to be sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out 
there looking for an opinion of what 'Form Filler Add-On' others are 
using. - MikeyG

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

[MikeyG]

On 1/14/2010 8:16 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

MikeyG wrote:

Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers
Add-Ons that are out there?
I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away
with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay
with SM any longer.
Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form
Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some
of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time& Usage Criteria'
has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999
into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then,
unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any
data here in the last week or so.
I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would
not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my
ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom
right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would
download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was
also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird.
I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I
am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will
it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form,
on any site?
Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well,
functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within
the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the
SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG


I agree totally - bring back Form Manager


The best Forms Manager Add on is: Forms History Manager Its not nearly
as full featured (developers of SM wouldn't know, they never looked at
the one in 1.1.8) But it will do.

I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth we
users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the other.
Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user wants or
needs.


Yes,it's handy to have access to the data.
I'm also, interested in user's opinions on form filling addons?
I noticed there were a bunch of 'Form' addons.
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Form Managers / Fillers

[MikeyG]

Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers 
Add-Ons that are out there?
I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away 
with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay 
with SM any longer.
Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form 
Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some 
of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time & Usage Criteria' 
has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999 
into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then, 
unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any 
data here in the last week or so.
I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would 
not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my 
ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom 
right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would 
download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was 
also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird.
I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I 
am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will 
it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form, 
on any site?
Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well, 
functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within 
the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the 
SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG

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Returning to SeaMonkey 1.1.8

[MikeyG]

What would be the long term consequences be from returning to SeaMonkey 
1.1.8, and continuing to use it until a user friendly Form Manager, as 
user friendly as that of SeaMonkey 1.1.8, is available?


Wouldn't security issues be addressed by programs such as, oh, ZoneAlarm 
Security Suite, let's say?


Would the 'bells and whistles' of SM 2, and it's future generations, be 
the only, aspect that would be missed out on?


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Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

[MikeyG]

On 1/5/2010 4:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

me2 wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:14:32 -0500, Phillip Jones
 wrote:


The powers that be don't have the
manpower, knowledge, interest, desire, willingness to do so



I hope we have not reached the point where seamonkey, or indeed any
"free" software, will defined by a few - the genius of its origin was
a browser that encompassed several vital tools under one umbrella. To
start cutting off any of these, form manger included, diminishes the
original concept and automatically removes some users who had depended
on a given ability. If the "powers that be" really want to send people
to other browsers this is great way to start.
BUT I really believe that the importance of form manger was just
underestimated and there remains hope for its restoration.

There is a glimmer of hope. there has been some rekindled interest in
adding a forms manager, But, it will not be along the lines of the one
in 1.1.8. It would be more along the lines of the extension Forms
History Manager. But Most likely it would make a return in version 2.1
or 2.2 (remember updates are in .1 increments so it will be quite aways
away

 I began using Firefox because Form Manager was gone; figured, "may as 
well". I use the extension, Form History; it sure, ain't the same as 
Form Manager, though. - MikeyG

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Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)

[MikeyG]

On 1/4/2010 10:24 AM, me2 wrote:


Yep. That would be nice ... would be nice if Firefox used the Old 
SeaMonkey Form Manager, too!

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Re: RoboForm adapter will not install in Seamonkey 2.0

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Phillip Jones wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

When attempting to install the RoboForm adapter, which worked fine in
1.18, the following message was displayed - "Incompatible Extension.
AI RoboForm Toolbar for Seamonkey will not be installed because it
does not provide secure up dadates."
I went into EDIT>PREFERENCES>ADVANCED>SOFTWARE INSTALLATION>MANAGE
SOFTWARE NSTALLATION AND UPDATES>ALLOWED SITES>  There I inserted
Roboform.com and made it an allowed site.
I attempted to install the Adapter again and again, the same message
came up as is listed above.
I went back into Software installations and RoboForm was no longer
there. I went through the same procedure, re-inserted RoboForm.com,
tried again and got the same denial message.
I tried once more but the Software Installations wouldn't accept
roboform.com at all this time.
How do I get around this?
Thanks,
Serge Popper
Roboforms does not work in SM 2.0. I contacted the company to see if 
and

when they intended to have an extension for it, and go a terse answer
saying in not so many words, if and when there is one, it will 
posted on

our Web site.

Wait and see. But until there is one, I use SM 2.0 for experimenting
only, I miss too much its convenience.

Thanks for your response.  I did the same thing and got the same answer.
I'm ging to roll back to 1.18 and wait for the adapter.
Thanks,
Serge

This might also be a chance for you to play a little with FF 3.5x.
Although I prefer SM, Roboform working perfectly with FF, I now use it
as an alternate. One site I visit regularly does not work very well any
more with SM 1.1.18 because of some elaborate scripts.

Since I am the belt and suspender type, I also have TB installed, and
with the right extension installed to kind of connect them, the duo FF
and TB come close to the convenience of SM, which I still prefer,
probably because it still has something I liked in Netscape's early
versions.



One thing that makes you like SM the best, is that when you click a 
Mailto: It doesn't open a Blank web page in FireFox and open a Blank 
email window with no address.  In SM it simply switches email and the 
address is ready.


Never has worked from day one in FF/TB.


It just, now, Worked for me; FF 3.5.5 / TB 2.0.0.23.

MikeyG
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Re: RoboForm adapter will not install in Seamonkey 2.0

[MikeyG]

John Doue wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

John Doue wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

When attempting to install the RoboForm adapter, which worked fine in
1.18, the following message was displayed - "Incompatible Extension.
AI RoboForm Toolbar for Seamonkey will not be installed because it
does not provide secure up dadates."
I went into EDIT>PREFERENCES>ADVANCED>SOFTWARE INSTALLATION>MANAGE
SOFTWARE NSTALLATION AND UPDATES>ALLOWED SITES> There I inserted
Roboform.com and made it an allowed site.
I attempted to install the Adapter again and again, the same message
came up as is listed above.
I went back into Software installations and RoboForm was no longer
there. I went through the same procedure, re-inserted RoboForm.com,
tried again and got the same denial message.
I tried once more but the Software Installations wouldn't accept
roboform.com at all this time.
How do I get around this?
Thanks,
Serge Popper

Roboforms does not work in SM 2.0. I contacted the company to see if and
when they intended to have an extension for it, and go a terse answer
saying in not so many words, if and when there is one, it will posted on
our Web site.

Wait and see. But until there is one, I use SM 2.0 for experimenting
only, I miss too much its convenience.
Thanks for your response.  I did the same thing and got the same 
answer. I'm ging to roll back to 1.18 and wait for the adapter.

Thanks,
Serge
This might also be a chance for you to play a little with FF 3.5x. 
Although I prefer SM, Roboform working perfectly with FF, I now use it 
as an alternate. One site I visit regularly does not work very well any 
more with SM 1.1.18 because of some elaborate scripts.


Since I am the belt and suspender type, I also have TB installed, and 
with the right extension installed to kind of connect them, the duo FF 
and TB come close to the convenience of SM, which I still prefer, 
probably because it still has something I liked in Netscape's early 
versions.


I switched to FF and TB, and access TB from FF with a button on the FF 
toolbar, (I think this button was in the Custom Buttons add-on), or I 
access TB through Mailwasher Pro, as I did when I used SM.
I am getting by not having the old SM Form Manager by using Form History 
and FireForm add-ons.
I am not regretting my decision to using FF and TB. I did not really, 
need the SM Composer.


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Re: Restore the old Form Manager!

[MikeyG]

Tom Pamin wrote:

me2 wrote:

"... .Form Manager seem to be hard for people to grasp.."

No! its just it is not as usable as the previous, most of us have seen
it in firefox.  Many of us used SM 1.x because of the presence of form
manger.
The "new" one doesn't handle whole forms, requires an extension to get
minimum usability, and represents a break from a working  often used
existing part of SM.

< sigh>.. bring back form manger.



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:44:26 -0500, Bill Spikowski
 wrote:


Philip Chee wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:56:15 -0600, me2 wrote:


Restore the old Form Manager!
...please...

We discussed this in the SeaMonkey Status Meeting yesterday.

 



Look under the feedback section.


That's great news -- I'll bet there's an awful lot of who haven't 
switched to 2.0 simply because of the loss of the truly excellent 
form manager in the 1.n series.


When colleagues ask me why I rely on software as little known as 
Seamonkey, I give several compelling reasons -- the form manager has 
always been #1 (and the support from this newsgroup is #2 -- thanks 
to you all!).


I agree - we NEED the old Form Manager back. I won't switch to 2.0 
without it.


I'd like to see the SM 1.x.x Form Manager in Firefox,too!
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Re: Form Manager File?

[MikeyG]

MikeyG wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:
What file is the Form Manager data stored in in 1.18? I'm trying to 
move the info from one PC to another.


If I remember, it is either ##.s or ##.w in your profile.

I am not sure of exactly, how many numbers there are before the 'w' or 
's' extension. I hope I'm right.


...

One is for passwords and one is the form. I hope I'm right.
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Re: Form Manager File?

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Tom Pamin wrote:
What file is the Form Manager data stored in in 1.18? I'm trying to move 
the info from one PC to another.


If I remember, it is either ##.s or ##.w in your profile.

I am not sure of exactly, how many numbers there are before the 'w' or 
's' extension. I hope I'm right.

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Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

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NoOp wrote:

On 11/12/2009 04:32 AM, MikeyG wrote:
After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I 
stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 
'specially, SeaMonkey Developers!


I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and 
when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from 
switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using 
Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups).


So you've managed to find & use the Form Manager that was present in Fx
2.0 in Fx 3.0? I suspect not as it's been missing in Fx since 2008.




I meant to say that I miss the old Form Manager from earlier SeaMonkey 
versions whether using SM 2.0 or FF 3.5.


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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

[MikeyG]

me2 wrote:

This thread seems to be winding down but I wanted to make one last
plea for the restoration of form manager, if SM's only claim to fame
is to slowly being reduced to "we"re firefox and thunderbird
combined", what's the point?
Those of us who have been Netscape users forever use these "little"
unimportant parts.
I hope someone can rectify this situation,  but if not let me express
my appreciation for all who over the years gave me a browser I
loved...

I'm sure I will miss it.



On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:42:55 -0500, Phillip Jones
 wrote:


Jens Hatlak wrote:

me2 wrote:

BTW, who decided the old form manger wasn't needed/used/wanted?

The Firefox developers. To be fair, they made that decision for Firefox
only. When SeaMonkey made the switch to the common back-end (Toolkit)
this is what we got. The old form manager would have had to be
reimplemented in the new environment but obviously that didn't happen.
Even if someone stepped up to do the work now I don't know whether the
old form manager behavior would be accepted for inclusion in newer
SeaMonkey versions. Unless someone tries I guess it won't ever happen.
But of course there's always the possibility that someone develops an
extension that implements something similar.

Greetings,

Jens

Odds are the developer in charge of it at FireFox said to him self , 
people don't use this anyway do we even need it.
You could acquire the code for the Forms history extension and included 
it already built in as you do  ChatZilla, JavaScript Debugger, and DOM 
inspector. If you don't want to be bothered with actually developing one.


I'm with you; even though I have gone to use Firefox / Thunderbird, I'd 
like to see the Old Form Manager be available in Firefox.


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Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

[MikeyG]

After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I
stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and
'specially, SeaMonkey Developers!

I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and
when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from
switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using
Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups).

It appeared, to me, that SeaMonkey-2 used very, similar code as Firefox,
and being that the 'Form Manager' was now, similar to what I remember
Firefox's form management being like, I decided to give Firefox /
Thunderbird a try. (I figured eventually, SeaMonkey-2 would become the
main-stay and SeaMonkey 1.*.* would be obsoleted out.)

So, far I do not regret my decision. The only, thing I am unsure of my
decision to switch is because there are ssooo, many, Add-Ons and Tweaks
and customizations available for Firefox / Thunderbird that I am
spending a lot of time playing with all of this; not a good thing for a
'can't leave it alone', 'tweak this, tweak that' sort of user; (I just,
can't leave well enough alone ... but it is fun!)


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Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!

[MikeyG]

After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I 
stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 
'specially, SeaMonkey Developers!


I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and 
when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from 
switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using 
Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups).


It appeared, to me, that SeaMonkey-2 used very, similar code as Firefox, 
and being that the 'Form Manager' was now, similar to what I remember 
Firefox's form management being like, I decided to give Firefox / 
Thunderbird a try. (I figured eventually, SeaMonkey-2 would become the 
main-stay and SeaMonkey 1.*.* would be obsoleted out.)


So, far I do not regret my decision. The only, thing I am unsure of my 
decision to switch is because there are ssooo, many, Add-Ons and Tweaks 
and customizations available for Firefox / Thunderbird that I am 
spending a lot of time playing with all of this; not a good thing for a 
'can't leave it alone', 'tweak this, tweak that' sort of user; (I just, 
can't leave well enough alone ... but it is fun!)



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Re: SM 2.0 Form Management

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me2 wrote:

I downloaded and installed the extension, its better than nothing, but
I suspect I am not in a minority in missing the original from manger.
having to add something like Roboform seems to defeat the original
concept- Is there any hope at all of restoring form manager?
I will uninstall 2.O and go back to 1.18 for now.


me2 wrote:

let us hope - I didn't use firefox for this very reason.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:12:25 -0400, Lou  wrote:


Dennis Gleeson wrote:

  >  A new form manager replaces all previous web form management, and
  >  automatically keeps a record of what you type into forms and presents
  >  you these options in a drop-down list when you come back.

I haven't downloaded the new version yet but have a question based on
some previous reading on here.

Is there any way in 2.0 to fill a complete form with 1 or 2 clicks(like
with the current form manager) or are you forced to make a choice from
drop downd in EACH form field?

I miss the old form manager too.  Maybe we'll get in in 2.1.

Get the Forms History extension


I have given up on SeaMonkey and begun to use FireFox and ThunderBird. I 
didn't want to stop using SeaMonkey, but the Form Manager was my main 
reason to keep using it; I really, can live with out Composer.


Now, that SeaMonkey is so much near FireFox, and there is so much more 
awareness of FireFox and ThunderBird, I decided to go this way.


Best wishes to all SEaMonkey users.

MikeyG
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Re: What happened to the form manager

[MikeyG]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021>

Screenshot:
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854>


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs. Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


I have not checked it out yet, but I will. Yes, thanks, Phil!

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Re: What happened to the form manager

[MikeyG]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Eric wrote:

Just wondering why the fill in form manager was left out of the 2.0
build?  It was a nice little feature for some things.

Any plans to bring it back?

Just curious,

Eric


Its there. But its hidden and you can edit anything in it.



type one word wrong.

Should be: But its hidden you _can't_ edit anything in it.

In the particular page that you have information typed got to view menu 
Page info click on forms tab. Once its in there if you typed the 
information wrong its there forever. On the old forms manager you could 
actually go to each item and fix mistakes such as typing your address 
wrong or your cell phone has changed.


Bad form. someone had a brain Freeze when the though up this new system. 
It good eye candy. but without editing ability at best its useless.




Amen, again!!!
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Re: What happened to the form manager

[MikeyG]

Tom Pamin wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Eric schrieb:

Just wondering why the fill in form manager was left out of the 2.0
build?  It was a nice little feature for some things.



Basically because the new engine offered another one and because the old
one was old unmaintained code which no developer was familiar with.



Any plans to bring it back?


Not as long long as there's no volunteer to do the work.
regards

Martin


Sorry, but it was a bad move to remove it. It was one of the best 
features of 1.18, and lots of people are missing it. I know I'm staying 
with 1.18 because of it.

Amen! My sentiments, exactly!
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Re: SeaMonkey 2; Extensions, AddOns, Themes

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Martin Freitag wrote:

MikeyG schrieb:

I have been anticipating SeaMonkey-2, and I downloaded it this morning.

I miss having my Extensions and Themes I had used in version 1.18.

Any idea when More Extensions / AddOns and themes will be available for
version 2?


Which extenions did you use which don't work now?

My Custom, Original, My Creation extensions. But after a few days of 
editing and visits to https://developer.mozilla.org/, I'm back in business.


I have created extensions that:

1. Adds a 'MaiWasher Pro' and a 'Compose Mail Message' Menuitem on the 
'Window' Menubar Button Menu, throughout the Suite. Also, adds an 'Empty 
Trash' and a 'Compact Folders' Menubar Button to the Toolbar in the 
'Messenger' window.


2. Enables the launching of External Applications from a 'MoreTools' 
Menubar Menu Button in Navigator, Messenger and Message Compose. Adds 
'Enhancements' to the 'Context Menu'.


3. Allows the option of having a 'New Window' and a 'New Tab' button 
placed on the 'Navigation Toolbar'. Lists these two checkboxes in the 
Preferences / Navigator / Navigation Toolbar options.

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SeaMonkey 2; Extensions, AddOns, Themes

[MikeyG]

I have been anticipating SeaMonkey-2, and I downloaded it this morning.

I miss having my Extensions and Themes I had used in version 1.18.

Any idea when More Extensions / AddOns and themes will be available for 
version 2?


Is there a generic or template install file that can be edited to 
install custom made / home made extensions. I have a few that I used in 
ver. 1.18.

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Re: Password Manager

[MikeyG]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 03/01/09 12:18, Henry wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


Henry wrote:


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


Henry wrote:


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


Henry wrote:


In Password Manager, if you have more than one entry
for a site, can you delete all but one?  There are
some sites I have 3 and 4 entries listed.




and your question is what?



My question is can I remove the extra Password Manager entries for 
the same site and just leave one site listed in Password Manager or 
does Password Manager use more than one entry for some reason?


Henry



you can remove whatever you want to remove

I got this reply from Bill Davidson. "I would be afraid that they are 
not really duplicates, but you can't see the difference. That is 
museum artifact code you have there."


I don't know what that means, but it makes me afraid to delete the 
duplicate entries.  Can I do harm? Please explain.


Henry


take a look at each entry and make sure they're not duplicates.  If 
they're dups, then delete them.  If they're not dups, and each one is 
different, then don't delete them.  For example, you may log into 
hotmail.com, but the server may be live.2.com or live.3.com or something 
similar.


As for "museum artifact code" he's talking about the password manager it 
self.  The code is ancient and belongs in a museum.


If you want to see your passwords better, then I've attached something 
that works great.  Just save it to your hard drive, then use the 
Browser, and click on File, Open File, find the file, and open it from 
there.  It will give you a list of all your passwords.  A lot better 
than the current password manager, imo though!





*MOZILLA PASSWORD INFORMATION*

Produced by /display_moz_passwords.html/ (by "ernie" - Andrew Poth - Ed 
Mullen)


*Host*  *User name* *Password*

The program you attached works great.  Here are some entries (without 
passwords) that I have.  Can I delete all but one of each of them?


https://www.comcast.com wa0...@arrl.net 
https://www.comcast.com wa0...@arrl.net
https://www.paypal.com  1   
https://www.paypal.com  wa0...@arrl.net 
https://www.paypal.com  1   
https://www.paypal.com  1   
https://www.paypal.com  1

This is where I don't know what's safe to delete.

Thanks for you program.

Henry


I think there may be some confusion here. The list of passwords only holds
passwords which you used (as some time) to log into a page which was
protected by login/password. If you delete the saved entry for a particular
page such that the browser no longer has a saved login/password for it,
you will be prompted again (and will again be able to have the browser
save it).

So ... you can delete them all if you like. You will just be asked to re-enter
them the next time you go to one of those protected pages.

As far as the duplicates go, if two entries have the same Site, User Name
and Password, then I believe the duplicates are not used. They shouldn't
even be there, but I've see duplicates even on (reasonably) current versions
of SeaMonkey.

Best Regards,


I believe that I have deleted a few duplicates that I have found in my 
passwords, only to have one or two return. I just, thought no more of it 
and left them alone.


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Re: Deleting entries in Download Manager

[MikeyG]

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

This is probably an elementary question that was resolved
before, but I just got here and don't see it being addressed.

I have SM 1.1.14 installed now and haverepeatedly tried to manually 
delete the accumulating list of files that I downloaded with SeaMonkey 
Download Manager, and that effort always fails. I can do it invidually 
for the most recent files I've downloaded, but it otherwise freezes up 
the program instead. At the very beginning of the list is a long 
sequence of total blanks, so my guess is that something is corrupted.


Meanwhile, the list has gotten very bloated and is probabably 
responsible for the arduously slow downloads that I can make these days.


Can anyone tell me the name of the file that saves the listing of 
downloads? Is there a way to just delete that file and restart that 
downloader? Obviously, I haven't deleted the entire SM installation to 
avoid losing my other settings for the installed program.


Thank you for your anticipated help.

Marisa


I believe that it would be the 'downloads.rdf' file in your profile 
directory.


MikeyG
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