Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[WaltS48]

On 4/1/21 1:41 PM, dirkf.gm...@mailnull.com wrote:

On 01/04/2021 15:13, Chris Ilias wrote:

...> David E. Ross wrote:

The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet 
before this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available 
on Usenet when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.


In addition, the mailing lists of some of the to-be-terminated 
newsgroups are gated through gmane, eg 
gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user, gmane.comp.mozilla.announce.


If replacement mailing lists are needed then Freelists 
 would seem to be the obvious solution, 
having a "business model" similar to that of SeaMonkey.


/df


Not needed here.

I have enough for Thunderbird at it's new home.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

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On 4/1/21 9:54 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/1/2021 3:53 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs 
& News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing 
to the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects <https://planet.mozilla.org/projects/>

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox 
without me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I 
need to 

go to them to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.

Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!

<https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/>

Enjoy. :)


Yep, I use it too in IRC. How about that! :D


That's great for you.

How about providing a service to all the others here that might want to 
do that, and explain how you added it to Chat.


I don't see the link in the topic.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

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Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects <https://planet.mozilla.org/projects/>

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without me 
doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them to 
see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!

<https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/>

Enjoy. :)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

On 4/1/21 6:13 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects <https://planet.mozilla.org/projects/>

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without 
me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them 
to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray

So you don't know what a Blog & News Feed account is, and don't know how 
to set one up?


I get the push of the SeaMonkey blog in Planet Mozilla Projects via the 
feed.



 SeaMonkey <https://blog.seamonkey-project.org>— SeaMonkey 2.53.7
 has been released!
 
<https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2021/03/31/seamonkey-2-53-7-has-been-released/>is
 one of the items I saw in my account in Thunderbird.

Another is,


 SeaMonkey <https://blog.seamonkey-project.org> — SeaMonkey Support
 newsgroups and mailing lists…
 
<https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2021/03/31/seamonkey-support-newsgroups-and-mailing-lists/>

I'm subscribed to 20 feeds. Some of which are temporary for testing bug 
reports, others give me a daily update on the bugs fixed for every 
Firefox and Thunderbird version, others are tech news sites. I even have 
one for BBC News.


You just want to bs between each other use what suits you.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Because, they are a small volunteer group that doesn't need to be spread 
out more, have a blog and are on mozillaZine.


Blog 

mozillaZine 



Tip for new users, there are six letters in Mozilla. The "l" is used twice.

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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

[WaltS48]

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked now 
- before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of fixing 
this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are some 
other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the home-page 
would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?

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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

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On 3/30/21 10:12 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/30/2021 12:20 PM, rodney wrote:

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).


Thank you. Was there a reason why this add-on was included in v2.53.7?



Starting with Thunderbird 38, the calendaring extension Lightning 
 has been 
packaged with Thunderbird.

REF: 

It is no longer an extension and part of the code in the current 78.x.x.

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Re: V2.53.7's calendar!

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On 3/30/21 3:20 PM, rodney wrote:

Ant wrote:
Thanks, but my 64-bit SM v2.53.7 installation gave me calendar stuff 
in "Mails & Newsgroup". How do I remove it since I don't want it?



On 3/30/2021 7:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This 
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be 
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.7/>


Enjoy!

...
Click on tools (top bar), Click on Add-ons Manager, click disable on 
Lightning (Integrated Calendaring & Scheduling for your Email client).



Where did you get a 2.53.8 Rodney?

The 2.53.8b1pre mentioned on mozillaZine?

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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

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On 3/30/21 1:02 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/30/2021 7:29 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after 
this newsgroup is gone?


What? You didn't read the 
<https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey/c/NuRJmDE0Pm4> 
post?


Edmund hasn't posted about this release in his 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/. :(



Awww, I feel so bad for you.

Maybe he hasn't had time yet.

I found it posted on mozillaZine by the user EITxolo, and made it here 
just in case he decided not to bother with this group.


Maybe EITxolo is Edmund's alter ego there and new versions always get 
announced there.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

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On 3/30/21 11:45 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/03/2021, WaltS48  wrote:

On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*

*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled
for this release. Please download the full installer from the
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.7/>

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after
this newsgroup is gone?

Bob

Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how
it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I
have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file,
for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that
repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a
system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that
it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.


Which means the repo has a maintainer.

Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have
been disabled for a long time.

Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do
a complete install over the current version?


It shows (it was done as a command line upgrade, on both of my
computers that I have just upgraded) as an upgrade, rather than as a
new package installation (which is what is shown, for kernel
upgrades).

The package is seamonkey-mozilla-build amd 64 2.53.7-0ubuntu1  so what
I have upgraded, is specific to Ubuntu Linux (as is ubuntuzilla, I
believe), and, I expect that it would not work with Fedora Linux
(which is from (some years ago) Red Hat Linux), which, I believe, uses
rpm packages, rather than deb packages.

What I suggest, is that, for each operating system, the Seamonkey user
does a google search for
seamonkey  upgrade
and, hopefully, the results returned, will include a howto, that steps
through the instructions for installing/upgrading seamonkey, for the
particular operating system.

I believe that that is how I found the Sourceforge ubuntuzilla
repository, and, how to apply it, for installing and upgrading
seamonkry on Ubuntu Linux.

I'll stick with getting the application from the SeaMonkey Project site, 
and install until/if updates work again.


I only have it installed to provide what little support I can, not being 
a user.


With this newsgroup gone, that only leaves the SeaMonkey topic on 
mozillaZine to deal with. That's not very active and there are more 
knowledgeable users there.


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

[WaltS48]

On 3/30/21 11:03 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 30/3/21 10:15 pm, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This 
version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be 
reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.7/>


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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after 
this newsgroup is gone?


Bob


Depending on which operating system platform you are using, and, how 
it is done for the operating system that you use, in Ubuntu Linux, I 
have added the sourceforge  ubuntuzilla repository to my sources file, 
for upgrades, so that, whenever I perform a system upgrade, that 
repository is checked for upgrades to Seamonkey, and, in performing a 
system upgrade on my other computer, at present, I have observed that 
it is performing an upgrade to Seamonkey.



Which means the repo has a maintainer.

Updates to direct installs from SeaMonkey on any operating system have 
been disabled for a long time.


Might the repo maintainer be able to fix it for all of us, or does it do 
a complete install over the current version?


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Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

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On 3/30/21 10:15 AM, Bob Fleischer wrote:

On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before 
upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version 
of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled 
for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the 
previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 
<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.7/>


Enjoy!

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So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this 
newsgroup is gone?


Bob



What? You didn't read the 
<https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey/c/NuRJmDE0Pm4> post?


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What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7

[WaltS48]

*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading 
from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of 
SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous version.*


SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes 



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Re: Replacement for the Seamonkey support mailing list as hosted by Mozilla - was - Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

[WaltS48]

On 3/29/21 12:19 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I have not seen any response from the list administrator, to either of 
my two messages above.


This is not a criticism of the list administrator - it is merely an 
observation and explanation, of what follows.


I have created a new replacement list for this list, this list being 
due to be shut down as of 03 March 2021.


The new list web page address is
https://groups.io/g/seamonkey-support

Please read the group description on that web page, before subscribing.

I have enabled the option to allow for the group/mailing list to be 
sponsored, to provide for more than 100 subscribers, should it get 
that many. I would not be concerned with that aspect, until the number 
of subscribers approaches 100, if it does. 



Well have you gone to the Wiki link I think I posted, and searched for 
the list administrators email address and emailed them?


I had no problem finding the admin address from the Wiki 
. Where they haven't 
announced the pending shutdown as yet.

You better hurry time is running out.

I'll even make it easier for you.

You want the SeaMonkey Forum 
.


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Re: Is this list being shutdown

[WaltS48]

On 3/28/21 3:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

As this list appears to be being shut down within a week, could the
list administrator please advise as to how many subscriber this list
has?

Thank you in anticipation.


What makes you think they read it?

It isn't moderated, and I had no problem finding the admin address from 
the Wiki .


Where they haven't announced the pending shutdown as yet. 😕

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Re: Is this list being shutdown

[WaltS48]

Yes, as explained in the message you quote. Even the ones the developers 
use are being shutdown and they have to move their discussions.


How could they do this to themselves!

For announcements of new SeaMonkey versions you can follow the topic on 
mozillaZine at




for support 

or just peruse all topics 

There is also a SeaMonkey channel on the FreeNode chat channel 
, and the meeting notes 
at 


On 3/28/21 8:52 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3


*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not appear.

Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.


*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.

If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.


*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support

If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.


*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.


*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org

My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias



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Re: SeaMonkey Project Donation

[WaltS48]

Ajay Krishna wrote:

Please provide  SeaMonkey project's PayPal email to which donation could be
sent.



Did not know they had an email.

Much easier from within the browser by clicking the Donate link from



Which takes you to 

Where there is a link to PayPal.



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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

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On 3/24/21 8:40 AM, Daniel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 24/3/21 11:17 pm:

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or 
Shift-k??


TIA.


The menu items I see are;

Message > Ignore Thread K and Message > Ignore Subthread Shift+K.


Yeah, but they only mark what's there NOW as read, I think. Not a 
permanent fix!


I'm not familiar with the feature.

Maybe a bug?

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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

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Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or Shift-k??


TIA.


The menu items I see are;

Message > Ignore Thread K and Message > Ignore Subthread Shift+K.
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Re: WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE WITH SEAMONKEY V 2.33.1

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On 3/21/21 3:18 PM, BER wrote:

Hello,
Please see my email below. I have decided to upgrade to Windows 10. 
Will Version 2.33.1 work with Windows 10 and should I be able to 
upgrade to the latest version of Seamonkey?

Thank you
Brenda


Upgrading has been broken for several versions so you need to do a new 
installation.


The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.53.6: The new 
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now 
! 2.53.6 is an incremental 
update from the 2.53.x branch and incorporates a number of changes, 
including improved usability of multiple mailboxes/folders selection, 
Greek localization, and fixes from the underlying platform code. 
*Before installing it make a full backup of your profile and 
thoroughly read and follow the Release Notes 
*. 


At the very top of those Release Notes it states:

*You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading 
from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of 
SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in 
cases where you need to go back to the older version.*


*Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for 
this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads 
section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.6 manually over the previous version.*




Hope that helps.

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Re: Google.com difference with SeaMonkey compared to Firefox

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On 3/21/21 11:26 AM, Ant wrote:

On 3/21/2021 7:50 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/21/21 9:27 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
For the last couple of months, the appearance of the main Google 
website on SeaMonkey has been different from what it has been for 
years. Search results are presented in individual boxes, and the 
website just looks strange.


I don't see much difference using SeaMonkey 2.53.6 and Firefox 
86.0.1, but I don't know what your search term is.


Do you have the same problem using Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled?

I never use a search site preferring to search from the address bar.


I definitely see differences between my SeaMonkey v2.53.6 (User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6) and Firefox v86.0.1 in my decade old, 
updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC.


Sorry, I should have said I don't see search results presented in 
individual boxes in either browser.


There are differences, but not much.

Let me know if you need pics. You can also provide some for viewing.

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Re: Google.com difference with SeaMonkey compared to Firefox

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On 3/21/21 9:27 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
For the last couple of months, the appearance of the main Google 
website on SeaMonkey has been different from what it has been for 
years. Search results are presented in individual boxes, and the 
website just looks strange.


I don't see much difference using SeaMonkey 2.53.6 and Firefox 86.0.1, 
but I don't know what your search term is.


Do you have the same problem using Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled?

I never use a search site preferring to search from the address bar.
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Re: Settings for IMAP account for Yahoo

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On 3/11/21 11:08 AM, JAS wrote:
What are the settings for setting up a Yahoo account in Seamonkey mail 
or will even a IMAP account work. I have several POP account with 
Yahoo that I have disabled as they do not work anymore.


JAS






More results here 



Why would anyone want to use Yahoo after the hack years ago?


 August 2013 breach



*Read all about it!*



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Re: SM road map

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On 3/8/21 1:01 PM, AndrésH wrote:

Where can I find the road map for the next main version of SM ? e.g 2.57


Probably the SeaMonkey Status Meetings 
 notes where you can 
find SeaMonkey 2.57 
 
under the Release Train 
 
link.


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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

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On 3/1/21 5:51 PM, meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey wrote:

On 1/25/2021 12:36 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

 I cannot use SM at Chase.


Chase works for me with:
general.useragent.override.chase.com:  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0


Every few months I have to update the "rv" and "Firefox" levels.


I pasted that into user.js, and Chase seems to work.

If I swap chase for some other bank's domain should that one stop 
complaining about unsupported?


TY
Ray



This site will tell you about your browser:
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/

It tells me >  Firefox 60 on Windows 10

✗ Your web browser is out of date
Out of date web browsers can have security problems and may cause 
websites to not work properly.

You have version 60, why not upgrade to 86?



Well, Firefox 60 is out of date. The current version is 86 and the ESR 
version is 78.something.something.


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Re: Lost bar of buttons

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Richard Owlett wrote:

On 02/26/2021 08:24 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 02/26/2021 05:48 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
While moving cursor with mouse I accidentally lost the row of 
buttons which included "Get new messages"


HELP - what do I do?
SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian Linux


I get it back if running in Safe Mode.
I have never had any addons installed.





Did you accidentally hide the mail toolbar? If so, you would see a 
right arrow and a dotted pattern where the toolbar should be...


No. That was first thing I checked. I've done that often enough ;/





Tried View > Show Hide?
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Re: Blocking spam

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On 2/21/21 1:12 PM, CC D wrote:

How do I block email addresses from unwanted spam. When I get these emails I 
hit the spam button but they keep coming back.



Are they from the same address?

I would create a filter and move them to Trash.

Also check the Junk filter settings.

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Re: Is there an easy way to add a .ics file to Seamonkey a Calendar?

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Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I inadvertently posted this a a reply to another thread. I'll try to get 
it right this time.


When I receive an invitation via email I can accept the invitation and 
the event is added to my calendar in Seamonkey.


When I see a link to an .ics file on a web page (like for an airline 
reservation) clicking on the link opens the file but does not add it to 
the calendar.


Is there an easy way or an extension to add a .ics file from a website 
to a Seamonkey Calendar?


The way I see in most explanations is to save the .ics then open 
Seamonkey and import it.


That seems like a lot more trouble that it ought to be.


Save the file.
Use File > Open > Calendar File
On my Linux I locate and select the file, then click the "Open" button.
The calendar is added.

Thanks to Dirk for the path to 
 which indicates 
double clicking on the file will open it in Thunderbird, but not the 
current version.


I can't speculate on SeaMonkey's future.

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Re: Best size for SM Cache ?

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DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/19/21 4:18 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Been having problems with cursor Freezing up.  Total Lockup.
Have to kill compuker and restart.   I figured it was the amount of 
"Free
Space" on my hard drive, so I moved a lot of Picture Files to a 
Thumbdrive.


Of a 250 GB Solid State Drive I now have ~ 40 GB has been free'd up.

Also my Cache size was determined by SM.   So I SET the max Cache Size
to 4 GB.    Huge, but I don't know what else to do to stop the Mouse 
Cursor

Freeze Ups.   HP Optical Mouse.  Windows 7 with 'Updates" turned OFF.
Virus and Trojan free (Malwarebytes).  Could I be going too fast 
transferring ?


So - is a possible of 4 GB of Cache Good ?

Any suggestions of why Cursor freezes up.  Usually when I am viewing 
graphics
files or about to save them.  Always happens when using SMand 
Paint.net and
GraphicsWorkShop Pro (Alchemy Mindworks).  Usually Windows Explorer 
on, too.


DoctorBill


I guess 4 GB Cache is irrelevant - it froze right after I saved the 
above Post !


DB


Try 100GB.



I only have ~40 GB freed up.   16% of my SSDrive's capacity.  That's IT...

DB


My Cache is also managed by SeaMonkey and is currently using 18 MB.

350 MB looks to be the default if I disable the preference.

I had the problem of the cursor freezing up with any program on my 
Fedora 33 when I first installed the operating system.


Went away after I installed my graphics card driver.
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Re: Best size for SM Cache ?

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On 2/19/21 4:18 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Been having problems with cursor Freezing up.  Total Lockup.
Have to kill compuker and restart.   I figured it was the amount of "Free
Space" on my hard drive, so I moved a lot of Picture Files to a 
Thumbdrive.


Of a 250 GB Solid State Drive I now have ~ 40 GB has been free'd up.

Also my Cache size was determined by SM.   So I SET the max Cache Size
to 4 GB.    Huge, but I don't know what else to do to stop the Mouse 
Cursor

Freeze Ups.   HP Optical Mouse.  Windows 7 with 'Updates" turned OFF.
Virus and Trojan free (Malwarebytes).  Could I be going too fast 
transferring ?


So - is a possible of 4 GB of Cache Good ?

Any suggestions of why Cursor freezes up.  Usually when I am viewing 
graphics
files or about to save them.  Always happens when using SMand 
Paint.net and
GraphicsWorkShop Pro (Alchemy Mindworks).  Usually Windows Explorer 
on, too.


DoctorBill


I guess 4 GB Cache is irrelevant - it froze right after I saved the 
above Post !


DB


Try 100GB.

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Re: Is there an easy way to add a .ics file to Seamonkey a Calendar?

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Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I inadvertently posted this a a reply to another thread. I'll try to get 
it right this time.


When I receive an invitation via email I can accept the invitation and 
the event is added to my calendar in Seamonkey.


When I see a link to an .ics file on a web page (like for an airline 
reservation) clicking on the link opens the file but does not add it to 
the calendar.


Is there an easy way or an extension to add a .ics file from a website 
to a Seamonkey Calendar?


The way I see in most explanations is to save the .ics then open 
Seamonkey and import it.


That seems like a lot more trouble that it ought to be.


Easiest way I know how to do the process.

Probably why the Lightning calendar developers coded it that way.

In the current Thunderbird a dialog opens allowing the user to select 
individual items from the calendar or all items.

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Re: Lightning/Calendar in SM 2.53.6

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On 2/5/21 11:18 PM, Daniel wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 6/2/21 6:52 am:

Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 4/2/21 10:05 pm:

Daniel wrote:
Today I (finally) updated from SM 2.49.1 to SM 2.53.6 on Linux, as 
shown in my sig file.


On my Win7 installation (updated from SM 2.49.5), after the update, 
I had Lightning starting at SM bootup, but not in Linux which I 
have updated, today, from SM 2.49.1  yes 2.49.1.


Now I seem to recall that in SM 2.49.1, Lightning wasn't "inbuilt" 
but by 2.49.5, it was.


So, when I updated my *Win7* SM from 2.49.5, Lightning 
worked/works, but in Linux (now 2.53.6), checking the Add-ons 
Manager, Lightning is there but I only have the option to "Remove" 
because "Lightning is incompatible with SeaMonkey 2.53.6"


How can I get my Lightning up and running??

(Note: when I say I've updated SM, I mean I have installed Linux SM 
2.53.6 in parallel (new location) with SM 2.49.1, but using the 
same profile!)


 From https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/ 
section "Known Issues":
Lightning or one of the distributed extensions is not showing up or 
is disabled under Add-ons.
If the extension is disabled and can not be enabled deinstall it. 
If it does not show up after restart do the following:


    Enter "about:config" in the location bar.
    Enter "extensions.installedDistroAddon" in the search field.
    Reset the key of the extension not showing up using the popup 
menu with the mouse. If in doubt just reset all keys, but this 
might bring back previously uninstalled distributed Add-ons.

    Restart SeaMonkey.


Thanks for this, Don.

When I entered "extensions.installedDistroAddon" in the search field, 
I had four keys listed 


extensions.installeddistroaddon.debu...@mozilla.org;modified;true;boolean 

extensions.installeddistroaddon.inspec...@mozilla.org;modified;true;boolean 

extensions.installedDistroAddon.{59c81df5-4b7a-477b-912d-4e0fdf64e5f2};modified;true;true 

extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103};modified;true;true 



So I reset the third and fourth keys and, when I restarted SeaMonkey, 
I had just the first two keys left  and still no 
Lightning/Calendar!! ;-(


Should I try resetting the first two (even though they appear to be 
totally disconnected with Lightning/Calendar)??


Did you first uninstall any version of Lightning currently installed 
in your profile?  It might show up as disabled in the Add-ons manager, 
but still needs to be uninstalled so that the new bundled version can 
be installed.  I think once the bundled version has been installed by 
one version of SeaMonkey, it gets automatically updated in future, but 
not sure if that happens if you already have a version installed from 
before SeaMonkey started bundling it.  So uninstall any existing 
version of Lightning, then reset the pref (it looks like 
{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103} is the one for Lightning), 
restart SeaMonkey and hopefully it will install automatically.


If that's still not working, the XPI file for the extension is 
installed along with SeaMonkey, so you might be able to install it 
into your profile from there.  From the add-ons manager, click the cog 
near the top-right corner, choose "Install Add-on From File" and 
select the XPI file.  On my Linux system, it's at 
/opt/seamonkey/distribution/extensions/e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}.xpi, 
so I'd guess on Windows the path would be something like "C:\Program 
Files\SeaMonkey\..." or perhaps "C:\Program Files\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\...".


Lightning is quite closely tied to SeaMonkey, so you need compatible 
versions.  Aside from the other problems with sharing a single profile 
between multiple SeaMonkey versions, you may find that Lightning only 
works in one version, since you can only have one version of Lightning 
installed in that profile.  I think Lightning is also one of a few 
OS-specific extensions, so you might also find that it only works in 
whichever OS you installed Lightning for even if the versions are 
otherwise identical (I'm almost certain that at least used to be the 
case - not entirely sure whether it still is).



Thanks for that, Mark.

As I just replied to Don, I downloaded the xpi file from the Thunderbird 
Add-ons page and was going to install it later, but given your 
suggestion of the cog near the top-right corner, I just gave it a go 
 and failed.


Maybe I'll have to look harder for the SeaMonkey Add-ons page (which I 
thought was hosted by Thunderbird) or, maybe, fed the Thunderbird 
extension through the SeaMonkey Extensions convert page.


Still sharing profiles?

I think that is your problem and you might want to try a new test 
profile on each platform.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

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On 2/4/21 5:54 PM, meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/






Today SeaMonkey started crashing again and again.  So I check for the 
new version! Why didn't SeaMonkey tell me about that?


Because "Automatic upgrades from prior versions are disabled for this 
release. If you need to upgrade from an earlier version, please download 
the full installer from the downloads section and install SeaMonkey 
2.53.6 manually over the previous version."


If upgrades are disabled so are announcements, and they did tell you 
about it with the first post in this thread.



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Re: Facebook Not Working

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On 1/24/21 3:27 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/24/21 11:37 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
My Facebook pages no longer work properly with SeaMonkey.  My Home 
page loads, but none of the icons for other sections functions.  Only 
the latest 2 news items show on the Home page; no others load when I 
scroll down.  I have to use Edge to view my account.


Was this before or after you restarted in safe mode and/or tested in a 
new profile?


This was before I was able to update to the latest SeaMonkey version. 
With that version it works as it should.




So, I guess you haven't checked in safe mode yet?

What security apps do you have installed? Disabled them to see if they 
are causing a problem?


Not having a problem with SM 2.53.6 and Facebook here on Fedora 33 
Linux. I don't have any extensions installed.


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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

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On 1/24/21 3:18 PM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Firefox is not the issue. The site works fine with Firefox and always 
has for me. The issue is that there is a critical incompatibility with 
SeaMonkey.


I prefer SeaMonkey because I like having the integrated mail/news 
client. But it seems more and more websites which work fine with Firefox 
don't work properly with SeaMonkey.


John



The integrated mail/news client does open in a separate window, can be 
setup to be the only window that opens in the preferences.


You could use SeaMonkey for mail/news and a different browser.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

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On 1/22/21 2:13 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/


I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open or even when I run it as 
Administrator.  My Avast antivirus and an on-demand scan with 
MalwareBytes show the file is safe.  I switched to Edge to download it 
again in case my original download was corrupted, but Microsoft blocked 
the download, saying the file may harm my computer.





I opened SeaMonkey on Windows 10.
Downloaded the installer.
Quit SeaMonkey.
Opened the File Manager > Downloads folder.
Double clicked on the installer.

A Windows protected your PC dialog appeared.
Windows Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from running, 
blah, blah.

With two buttons. "Run anyway" "Don't run"
I ran anyway.

Now running 2.53.6 on Windows 10.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

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On 1/22/21 2:13 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/


I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open or even when I run it as 
Administrator.  My Avast antivirus and an on-demand scan with 
MalwareBytes show the file is safe.  I switched to Edge to download it 
again in case my original download was corrupted, but Microsoft blocked 
the download, saying the file may harm my computer.





By doesn't run you mean the installer doesn't open?

I had no problem installing and running it on Fedora 33 Linux.

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Re: Problem with Data Manager

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On 1/22/21 1:02 AM, Sjouke Burry wrote:

On 22.01.21 6:20, Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 22/01/21 08:44:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/21/21 3:29 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:





Trying to access the same posting, the top-level one for this thread.
It is from 10 April 2020, 23:32 (my timezone, your mileage may vary).
This attempt is from another profile on another machine, one where I
have previously replied to this very post myself.



Any help?

<https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey/c/irD_2_--VPo>

I had to get to messages 391-420 from the main archive to find it.


Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Is this some deficiency with Seamonkey's handling of large Newsgroups
or has someone started deleting old messages?  I don't remember this
happening back when I was using 2.49.4.


Answering my own question, I don't have this problem with
mozilla.general of any of the lower-traffic newsgroups I'm using on this
server.  It looks to me as though mozilla.support.seamonkey has lost
most of its history.


Don, if I set my SM 2.49.1 to View -> Threads -> All, I can see that, at
17:14 (my time) 06/08/19, you replied in a thread in this newsgroup
titled "Seamonkey mail ebay". Can you not see this??

I'm guessing there is only so much storage allocated to each newsgroup
and once that space is full the messages are over-written.

Hmm! Perhaps if we snipped better, the older threads would last 
longer!! ;-P


And then, just as I was snipping my post, I see a reference to
groups.google.com, maybe their storage is lessor than what mozilla
allocate!!


My provider has (almost) all newsgroups, but removes old messsages
after a few days(3-4?) (at news.planet.nl).
OP should check the rules for his provider,


AIUI the rule for news.mozilla.org is that no old messages are removed 
and are also archived on Google Groups.


<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/>

The occasional post may get removed in a moderated forum if the posting 
rules are broken.


<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/etiquette/>

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Re: Problem with Data Manager

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On 1/21/21 4:44 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/21/21 3:29 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Other Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

    Newsgroup server responded: no such article
    Perhaps the article has expired?
    Try searching for article: 
 (114862)


This is annoying as hell - I'm having a problem and want to look at 
older threads where other people look to have had the same problem. 
Nothing doing.


This is on a fresh profile with no filters at all, I said I wanted 
to download all headers but anything (?) older than mid June 2020 
is unavailable.


Trying to access the same posting, the top-level one for this thread.
It is from 10 April 2020, 23:32 (my timezone, your mileage may vary).
This attempt is from another profile on another machine, one where I 
have previously replied to this very post myself.




Any help?

<https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey/c/irD_2_--VPo>

I had to get to messages 391-420 from the main archive to find it.



Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Is this some deficiency with Seamonkey's handling of large Newsgroups 
or has someone started deleting old messages?  I don't remember this 
happening back when I was using 2.49.4.




Answering my own question, I don't have this problem with 
mozilla.general of any of the lower-traffic newsgroups I'm using on this 
server.  It looks to me as though mozilla.support.seamonkey has lost 
most of its history.




I would unsubscribe from the newsgroup, then subscribe again downloading 
as many headers as you would like.


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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[WaltS48]

On 1/21/21 3:29 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Other Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

    Newsgroup server responded: no such article
    Perhaps the article has expired?
    Try searching for article: 
 (114862)


This is annoying as hell - I'm having a problem and want to look at 
older threads where other people look to have had the same problem. 
Nothing doing.


This is on a fresh profile with no filters at all, I said I wanted to 
download all headers but anything (?) older than mid June 2020 is 
unavailable.


Trying to access the same posting, the top-level one for this thread.
It is from 10 April 2020, 23:32 (my timezone, your mileage may vary).
This attempt is from another profile on another machine, one where I 
have previously replied to this very post myself.




Any help?



I had to get to messages 391-420 from the main archive to find it.

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Re: More room for text on toolbar

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On 1/20/21 10:28 AM, AK wrote:

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 8:51:34 AM UTC-6, WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/19/21 7:31 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

AK wrote:

I would like to have more room for text on my toolbar.

Can someone help me?

Thanks.

https://imgur.com/a/oiAAXmi



Is that toolbar provided by Seamonkey or by Ubuntu? I think you should
be looking at the configuration options provided there rather than by
Seamonkey - my toolbar is courtesy of OpenSuse/KDE and I get pretty well
as much text as will fit down there.


AFAIK Ubuntu doesn't supply SeaMonkey from the main repository or build it.

If we are talking about the Bookmarks toolbar (there are several
toolbars) hovering the mouse pointer over the text in the Bookmarks
toolbar will show a tool tip with all the text.

Which leaves room for more items on the toolbar.

YMMV




I got more room on the toolbar by lowering the font size.
/*
Changes font size for BOOKMARKS TOOLBAR
*/

#personal-bookmarks {
font-size:6pt !important;
}



Well, all of my bookmarks are in folders on the Bookmarks toolbar with 
much shortened names by selecting Properties from the right-click 
context menu and editing the name.


So, I will stick with the tool tips.

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Re: More room for text on toolbar

[WaltS48]

On 1/19/21 7:31 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

AK wrote:

I would like to have more room for text on my toolbar.

Can someone help me?

Thanks.

https://imgur.com/a/oiAAXmi



Is that toolbar provided by Seamonkey or by Ubuntu?  I think you should 
be looking at the configuration options provided there rather than by 
Seamonkey - my toolbar is courtesy of OpenSuse/KDE and I get pretty well 
as much text as will fit down there.




AFAIK Ubuntu doesn't supply SeaMonkey from the main repository or build it.

If we are talking about the Bookmarks toolbar (there are several 
toolbars) hovering the mouse pointer over the text in the Bookmarks 
toolbar will show a tool tip with all the text.


Which leaves room for more items on the toolbar.

YMMV

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Re: suggestion for seamonkey

[WaltS48]

Robert Drury wrote:
I've depended exclusively on seamonkey/mozilla/netscape email client 
since 1994.  I'd like to suggest the seamonkey email client allow me to 
select the header text (displayed above the email body when viewing an 
email) for pasting into my notes. So with one selection stroke (pressing 
shift key and moving the mouse across the text) the Subject, From, Date, 
and To labels and fields all are selected for copy/paste.  Related 
enhancements also welcome.  Thanks.




Workaround #2.

Use View > Message Source (Ctrl+U) and copy it from there.

Subject: Re: suggestion for seamonkey
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
References: 
 
From: Somebody or Other 
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 08:09:22 -0500

Edit out the parts you don't want.
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Re: Possible Flash issue on Mac?

[WaltS48]

On 1/13/21 11:56 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 13/01/2021 16:14, WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/13/21 10:42 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
...>

[Flashpoint uses archived versions of Flash player that still work]



Old or latest. Flash is dead.

Doesn't matter what version of browser still supports it. The 
manufacturer of Flash doesn't after yesterday and will block content 
from using it.


"Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player after December 
31, 2020 and Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash 
Player beginning January 12, 2021, Adobe strongly recommends all users 
immediately uninstall Flash Player to help protect their systems."


Adobe doesn't/didn't mediate Flash content, except by the player.

The "block" only applies if you use a version of the Flash player that 
includes a time cut-off in the player code 
<http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=2cded5796f2faf5792dcc3b3779002af&p=1919655#post1919655>. 
Older versions do not include such a "block". Also, I'm sure it would be 
possible to spoof the date+time to the player if it was necessary to 
avoid the time cut-off.


Users of permanent beta browsers such as Chrome and non-ESR Firefox may 
well have been updated to a version that disallows any Flash version, 
but that's a separate issue.


OP's problem appears to be that some issue with Flashpoint/Mac OS is 
causing Flashpoint to use her latest and greatest "blocked" player 
instead of it providing and enabling a version suitable for the game she 
is trying to play.


/df



Okay. You win.😁

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Re: Possible Flash issue on Mac?

[WaltS48]

On 1/13/21 10:42 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 13/01/2021 13:41, WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/12/21 5:48 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Mollie Hurlburt wrote:

Hi!

I'm trying to access Flashpoint through SeaMonkey and it used to 
work fine, but now it isn't. I get to the point of entering 
SeaMonkey but it won't use Flash - I end up with a blank screen 
except for the Flash "F" inside a box next to an information "i". 
When I click it, another tab opens saying, "Secure Connection 
Failed. The document contains no data. The page you are trying to 
view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data 
could not be verified." I've tried it with multiple links, all are 
still active on their original sites. Nothing, though.


I have macOS Big Sur 11.1 and SeaMonkey 2.53.5.1 - which I've 
un/reinstalled multiple times now, along with Flashpoint itself. 
I've also double checked everything I know could be an issue. My 
security and permissions are fine for allowing everything, all 
extensions on SeaMonkey were disabled, I've tried Safe Mode and 
normal, cleared cookies/cache, etc. I have no idea what it could be.


I tried going to Tools --> Web Development --> Error Console, and 
received these three errors, but I don't know what to do with them 
from here.


Error: TypeError: browser[name] is undefined
Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/gDevTools.jsm
Line: 158

Error: TypeError: menu is null
Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/browser-menus.js
Line: 223

Error: NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND:
Source File: 
jar:file:///Users/molli/Downloads/Flashpoint%20Infinity%20for%20Mac%20Beta/FPSoftware/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/Resources/omni.ja!/components/devtools-startup.js 


Line: 273





Is your Flashpoint on the same comp or hdd as your SM?
It is my understanding that SM has disabled NPAPI in your SM version.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI
Personally, I will stick with SM 2.49.3 until it no longer works with 
any websites.


Flash is dead as of yesterday.

<https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/01/12/2133218/adobe-flash-is-officially-dead-after-25-years-with-content-blocked-starting-today> 



True but not relevant to OP's problem which concerns SM in the context 
of a game archive package that provides appropriate (and not blocked) 
players for the formats, such as Flash, that its archived games need.


The first 2 console errors shown are not exceptional.

SM 2.53.5.1 is supposed to support Flash (and no other plugins) via 
NPAPI. Perhaps the detection of older Flash versions isn't working 
properly?


The Flashpoint site says that Mac OS support is highly experimental. You 
might do better to ask there.


/df



Old or latest. Flash is dead.

Doesn't matter what version of browser still supports it. The 
manufacturer of Flash doesn't after yesterday and will block content 
from using it.


"Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player after December 
31, 2020 and Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player 
beginning January 12, 2021, Adobe strongly recommends all users 
immediately uninstall Flash Player to help protect their systems."


Sorta like Twitter blocking certain accounts from being used.

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Re: Possible Flash issue on Mac?

[WaltS48]

On 1/12/21 5:48 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Mollie Hurlburt wrote:

Hi!

I'm trying to access Flashpoint through SeaMonkey and it used to work 
fine, but now it isn't. I get to the point of entering SeaMonkey but 
it won't use Flash - I end up with a blank screen except for the Flash 
"F" inside a box next to an information "i". When I click it, another 
tab opens saying, "Secure Connection Failed. The document contains no 
data. The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the 
authenticity of the received data could not be verified." I've tried 
it with multiple links, all are still active on their original sites. 
Nothing, though.


I have macOS Big Sur 11.1 and SeaMonkey 2.53.5.1 - which I've 
un/reinstalled multiple times now, along with Flashpoint itself. I've 
also double checked everything I know could be an issue. My security 
and permissions are fine for allowing everything, all extensions on 
SeaMonkey were disabled, I've tried Safe Mode and normal, cleared 
cookies/cache, etc. I have no idea what it could be.


I tried going to Tools --> Web Development --> Error Console, and 
received these three errors, but I don't know what to do with them 
from here.


Error: TypeError: browser[name] is undefined
Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/gDevTools.jsm
Line: 158

Error: TypeError: menu is null
Source File: resource://devtools/client/framework/browser-menus.js
Line: 223

Error: NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND:
Source File: 
jar:file:///Users/molli/Downloads/Flashpoint%20Infinity%20for%20Mac%20Beta/FPSoftware/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/Resources/omni.ja!/components/devtools-startup.js 


Line: 273


Any advice?
Thanks!


Is your Flashpoint on the same comp or hdd as your SM?
It is my understanding that SM has disabled NPAPI in your SM version.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI
Personally, I will stick with SM 2.49.3 until it no longer works with 
any websites.


Flash is dead as of yesterday.



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Re: Sites you may not be able to access

[WaltS48]

On 1/11/21 3:04 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


The app Parlor has apparently seen a dramatic increase in downloads. 
It is something porn-related.


The ACLU concern was for the "little guy".  Namely, someone like Trump 
could build or buy an alternate means of communicating.  The doctor who 
got banned for talking like a doctor has little or no option.


Ray




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Re: Sites you may not be able to access

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On 1/10/21 3:08 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
I get a news letter from a doctor.  Twitter banned him because he 
described his experience treating people with CCP virus.  He moved to 
Parler and took 28K followers with him.


Now Twitter has banned Trump.  Trump moved to Parler.

Parler used Amazon servers.  Amazon has banned Parler.

Free speech anyone?

Ray



Twitter, Amazon, Google and others are not the government.

I can ban you from my platform if I choose, or filter your posts to trash.

I think that discussion is in mozilla.general.

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Re: Email cross talk?

[WaltS48]

On 1/10/21 2:56 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


That's why you don't use real email addresses in newsgroups.

I work this list from email.  I tend to forget that I am also subscribed 
to the newsgroup.  I don't recall why I subscribed to both, possibly has 
to do with difficulty sending email from the road.  I think that may 
have gotten fixed.  Would unsubscribing the newsgroup help?


Ray





Probably not. I tend to forget users use the mailing list.

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Re: Email cross talk?

[WaltS48]

On 1/10/21 2:30 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:


Server cross talk?


I just clicked send on the opening message of this thread, and an 
identical reply as the one referenced appeared in my inbox.


The only difference being the new reply has a single "re" whereas the 
previous had "re re".


Ray


That's why you don't use real email addresses in newsgroups.

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Re: Urgent: New version seems to have lost the html edit function!

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On 1/9/21 9:39 AM, Julia Bolton Holloway wrote:

I can no longer access the line with 'File/Edit/View/ etc. , needed for
accessing 'Edit' from 'File' to get to the composer for web pages, which I
have always used from Netscape through Seamonkey. It's excellent and I hope
not dead.
Julia Bolton Holloway, Ph.D.



Do you have the Back, Forward address bar other buttons showing,also the 
Bookmarks bar?


Look to the far left and you will see a toggle. If the Menu bar is 
closed you will see a arrow facing > below those toolbars. Click it and 
the Menu bar should appear.


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Re: SPAM from "... campaign office of Representative Ocasio-Cortez! ..."

[WaltS48]

On 1/8/21 11:01 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

it seems that I get a SPAM mail with contents as you see in Subject.

Anybody else?

DU

Rainer


Not here.

Are you in her district?

No "Unsubcribe" in the email?

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Re: how to "reader only" mode?

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On 1/8/21 6:41 AM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

does SM has an option to switch to a "reader only" browser mode as FF and
Safari? I can't find it.

Thank you.




Because it doesn't have it.

I can't find a "reader only" mode in Firefox.

There is a "reader view' in Firefox, but only certain pages activate the 
icon depending on how they are coded.


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Re: Browser: Save and Close

[WaltS48]

On 1/7/21 6:36 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



Yes, it is "Save and Close" on Windows when I have multiple tabs open 
in the browser window.


Yes, TY, we know what it is supposed to do.  And we are back to my 
original plost.  Now why does it only save sometimes?


Ray




Your original post didn't mention that you had multiple tabs open.

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Re: Browser: Save and Close

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Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



I get "Save and Quit" when using File > Quit and have more than one 
tab open.


Is that what you are doing?


No.  Upper right corner: "Close".

Ray



Yes, it is "Save and Close" on Windows when I have multiple tabs open in 
the browser window.

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Re: Browser: Save and Close

[WaltS48]

On 1/6/21 2:16 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Browser: Save and Close

Sometimes it saves and sometimes not.  I have yet to determine a 
pattern/correlation.  Does not seem to be version specific.


Any ideas?

TY
Ray



I get "Save and Quit" when using File > Quit and have more than one tab 
open.


Is that what you are doing?

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Re: Best Agent.Override String?

[WaltS48]

On 1/6/21 9:04 AM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
What is currently the best agent.override string to use to get into most 
sites without complaints about SM being out-of-date?


On what operating system? Windows, Mac or Linux?

Probably one with Firefox 84.0 which is the current version or Firefox 
78.0 which is the current ESR version.


YMMV

I use Firefox Nightly, but keep SeaMonkey around to help with the easy 
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Re: SM 2.53.6b1: Web Developer Tools mess up mail client

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On 1/1/21 11:47 AM, jcteyssier wrote:

WaltS48 a écrit :

On 1/1/21 7:11 AM, mike wrote:

Hi there and a Happy New Year!

I've installed SM 2.53.6 Beta 1 (Windows 10 x64) and encountered the
following reproducible behaviour:

1. Start a fresh SeaMonkey browser instance
2. Press F12 to open the Web Development Tools
3. Press Ctrl+2 to open the mail client

Result: The folder and message lists are empty.

This only seems to happen when the developer tools are open. Not sure if
this is new in 2.53.6.



I have been informed on IRC,that it is a known issue and the 
workaround is to open mail client before opening the Web Development 
Tools and is also in SM 2.49.x.


Check to see if there is a bug report filed and if not file one.

<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=SeaMonkey>


I can bot reproduce this problem: all works fine here


Following the steps above?

A developer told me it was a known issue.

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Re: SM 2.53.6b1: Web Developer Tools mess up mail client

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On 1/1/21 7:11 AM, mike wrote:

Hi there and a Happy New Year!

I've installed SM 2.53.6 Beta 1 (Windows 10 x64) and encountered the
following reproducible behaviour:

1. Start a fresh SeaMonkey browser instance
2. Press F12 to open the Web Development Tools
3. Press Ctrl+2 to open the mail client

Result: The folder and message lists are empty.

This only seems to happen when the developer tools are open. Not sure if
this is new in 2.53.6.



I have been informed on IRC,that it is a known issue and the workaround 
is to open mail client before opening the Web Development Tools and is 
also in SM 2.49.x.


Check to see if there is a bug report filed and if not file one.



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Re: SM 2.53.6b1: Web Developer Tools mess up mail client

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On 1/1/21 7:11 AM, mike wrote:

Hi there and a Happy New Year!

I've installed SM 2.53.6 Beta 1 (Windows 10 x64) and encountered the
following reproducible behaviour:

1. Start a fresh SeaMonkey browser instance
2. Press F12 to open the Web Development Tools
3. Press Ctrl+2 to open the mail client

Result: The folder and message lists are empty.

This only seems to happen when the developer tools are open. Not sure if
this is new in 2.53.6.



It isn't new.

I can reproduce using SM 2.53.5.1 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Linux.

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Re: PeerTube: No Preview Thumbnals shown on SR Tube

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On 12/30/20 2:19 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

my

De SeaMonkey 2.53.6 beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; 
rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20201115220004 (Newly created 
User Profile, Default Classic Theme) on German WIN7 64bit


does not show any preview thumbnails on
https://tube.rebellion.global/

Error Console shows tons of warnings, but similar warnings appear on
https://peertube.qtg.fr/
which works fine for me.

I tried "FF" at 'Edit - Preferences -  Extended - HTTP' without success
Also FF Trunk version from add-on "UserAgent Switcher" does not help.
Page works fine with MS Edge

Any Ideas concerning reasons for the problem? So that I can forward to 
site owner to improve site?


Best regards

Rainer


I can confirm no thumbnails on that site in my 2.53.5.1 on Ubuntu 18.04.

Works fine in my Firefox Nightly 86.0a1.

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Re: Active Tab Stopped being Indicated

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On 12/29/20 12:37 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/29/20 10:04 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I have multiple TABS working in My SeaMonkey, it would
indicated which tab was active on screen with a colored tag in one
corner of the Tab.

For some reason, it stopped doing that.

Can someone tell me how to get that feature back ?

DoctorBill


Are you using CSS or an extension that provided the indicator?

I see a Tab Numbers extension when I do a search in the Add-ons 
Manager.


<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/tab-numbers/>

Nothing for an active tab.

.
I don't remember what made my Tabs indicate the current, in use 
tab.sorry.


It had a bright colored number that showed which tab I was IN at 
the moment.
Now it is hard to tell in a string of many tabs.   I find some 
feature and install
it back somewhere in the past (days to years) and then forget 
how/where I

got it.


The extension I linked to in my previous response adds a bright 
colored number to the tabs. I don't know if it shows which tab you 
are in at the moment.



.
I installed it.  No bright colored numbers show up (?) - after 
exiting windows

and restarting my compuker.

Is there a toggle that I need to throw ?

DB




Not that I can find.

I installed it and a new tab opened with a number, the Firefox logo, 
and "Congratulations! Tab Numbers installed successfully. You can 
right now start using your new add-on." as part of the tabs page.


I click a different tab and the number highlights in red while the 
others fade.


It even works in the Mail & Newsgroups window.

.
  I installed it AGAIN 2x even !

No Message of Congrats.   I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.1.

DB


I'm using SM 2.53.5.1.

My screenshot.

<https://imgur.com/iDDgK3E>

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Re: Active Tab Stopped being Indicated

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DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/29/20 10:04 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I have multiple TABS working in My SeaMonkey, it would
indicated which tab was active on screen with a colored tag in one
corner of the Tab.

For some reason, it stopped doing that.

Can someone tell me how to get that feature back ?

DoctorBill


Are you using CSS or an extension that provided the indicator?

I see a Tab Numbers extension when I do a search in the Add-ons 
Manager.


<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/tab-numbers/>

Nothing for an active tab.

.
I don't remember what made my Tabs indicate the current, in use 
tab.sorry.


It had a bright colored number that showed which tab I was IN at the 
moment.
Now it is hard to tell in a string of many tabs.   I find some 
feature and install
it back somewhere in the past (days to years) and then forget 
how/where I

got it.


The extension I linked to in my previous response adds a bright 
colored number to the tabs. I don't know if it shows which tab you are 
in at the moment.



.
I installed it.  No bright colored numbers show up (?) - after exiting 
windows

and restarting my compuker.

Is there a toggle that I need to throw ?

DB




Not that I can find.

I installed it and a new tab opened with a number, the Firefox logo, and 
"Congratulations! Tab Numbers installed successfully. You can right now 
start using your new add-on." as part of the tabs page.


I click a different tab and the number highlights in red while the 
others fade.


It even works in the Mail & Newsgroups window.
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Re: What does "Clear private data" do ?

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DoctorBill wrote:

.
.
OK..."Clear private data" in the TOOLS menu - clears your private data.
Had to say that for the wise guys who I know will come back with that

Now - What specifically does that clear (ctrl-shft-del) do ?

Is it dangerous to do - can I lose important stuff, change my setup by
using it.

I have Pref-Bar and do the Clear location - cache - history - DL - cookies
buttons. Does "Clear private data" do MORE than that ?

I do that in the event some intruder gets on my Compuker when I leave 
the house
and he/she tries to get to my online banking or Tax files w/o passwords, 
etc.

I know that anyone with much compuker knowledge knows how to get there,
but what I do may stop  your average break-in clodhopper.

Paranoid, huh ?

DoctorBill


Press the F1 function key on your keyboard, or use Help > Help Contents 
from the Menu.


Type "Clear" without quotes into the Search Bar.

Select "Clearing Private Data".

Select "Types of Private Data".

HTH

Enjoy the reading.
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Re: Active Tab Stopped being Indicated

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On 12/29/20 10:04 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I have multiple TABS working in My SeaMonkey, it would
indicated which tab was active on screen with a colored tag in one
corner of the Tab.

For some reason, it stopped doing that.

Can someone tell me how to get that feature back ?

DoctorBill


Are you using CSS or an extension that provided the indicator?

I see a Tab Numbers extension when I do a search in the Add-ons Manager.

<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/tab-numbers/>

Nothing for an active tab.

.
I don't remember what made my Tabs indicate the current, in use 
tab.sorry.


It had a bright colored number that showed which tab I was IN at the 
moment.
Now it is hard to tell in a string of many tabs.   I find some feature 
and install

it back somewhere in the past (days to years) and then forget how/where I
got it.


The extension I linked to in my previous response adds a bright colored 
number to the tabs. I don't know if it shows which tab you are in at the 
moment.


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Re: Active Tab Stopped being Indicated

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DoctorBill wrote:

When I have multiple TABS working in My SeaMonkey, it would
indicated which tab was active on screen with a colored tag in one
corner of the Tab.

For some reason, it stopped doing that.

Can someone tell me how to get that feature back ?

DoctorBill


Are you using CSS or an extension that provided the indicator?

I see a Tab Numbers extension when I do a search in the Add-ons Manager.



Nothing for an active tab.
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Re: SeaMonkey doesn't always stop !

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DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while, when I Exit SeaMonkey, I can't get back into it
and I get a Message Onscreen that it is ALREADY running and I need to
Exit it..(?)

So I click the "Exit" button presented to me and THEN it starts up again !
This makes no sense to mebut then again most of the World now doesn't
make sense anymore.

What is that all about ?

DoctorBill


How do you exit SeaMonkey?

Using the Close "x" in the window may leave a process running.

I always use File > Quit from the Menu.
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Re: Development

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On 12/28/20 9:28 AM, fragenderwe...@arcor.de wrote:

Dear Sirs,

a long time ago Seamonkey uses the same addons as Firefox. I would like 
to know when do you think Seamonkey is able again to use all of this 
addons. Cause, if it is not in sight, we must leave the projekt.


I am sorry to must inform you, if we'll get no answer, the time to leave 
is now...


kind regards
Winter



SeaMonkey extensions are now hosted at 



Are you asking when SeaMonkey will be able to use Web Extensions?

"WebExtension support in SeaMonkey is tracked in bug 1320556. As of now 
working on this has not started.


This would be needed for a ESR60 based SeaMonkey 2.57.
Some backports for adding Web extension dictionaries to 2.53 have 
been done but more is needed."


REF: 



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Re: 32 bit vs 64 bit SeaMonkey

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On 12/27/20 2:59 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


As Mark suggested,
- uninstall the 32-bit version (this is essential)
- install the 64-bit version
If you need to go back then you will have to uninstall the 64-bit 
and reinstall the 32-bit versions.


You can have as many versions of SM available on the HDD as you have 
space for.  I currently have ten. 


You *can* do that, provided you just unpack them from zip 
distributions and don't install using the .exe installer.
Since the first Netscape I have used nothing but ZIP distros.  And that 
includes SM, FF, TB, and all the derivatives.


Anyone with enough interest to get to this list has the ability to copy 
and rename the contents of a ZIP.  That way, you can put them anywhere 
you want, and name them anything you want




The SeaMonkey .exe installer doesn't have the ability to select a Custom 
installation like Firefox and Thunderbird have when you install them?


I can right-click on the Linux seamonkey-2.53.5.1.tar.bz2 file and 
select a destination to extract it in.


My SeaMonkey is installed in ~/Apps.

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Re: Extension works on MacOS not Win10

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On 12/23/20 7:12 AM, dstamat wrote:

Hi everybody,

I have an issue with an extension. It works on the MacOS version of Seamonkey 
2.53.x but not on the Win10 version. Are there any reasons this may be?

Thanks

dstamat



See 

It's developer didn't make it compatible with MacOS is my best guess 
since you didn't provide any information.


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Re: How set default text encoding display in Seamonkey Mail ?

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no one wrote:



this "solution" doesn't make much sense? "1- Enter about:config"
where/what do you mean by this, enter the file? a hidded menu? maybe
a console somewhere..


Dave, if you enter "about:config" (without the double quotes) in the
addressbar and accept the warning, you get to see all sorts of
Preferences, which you can alter (remembering the Warning which you
previously accepted) to change how SeaMonkey appears.

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Silly me, expecting the configuration to be available via seamonkey mail,  I 
mean who wouldn't expect it to be located in the browser ;)
not directed at you Daniel, just pointing out the logic i followed.

Managed to achieve this but still cannot get SMmail to deal with the issue properly, i 
compose and send a mail formatted as unicode and in my "sent" mail box it tries 
to display it in some other format resulting in strange characters  like
"Hi
    I have spent a few hours researching your issues with"

so imagine most other clients will do the same if SM cannot correctly detect 
it's own formatting..



Isn't mail encoding in the Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Text 
Encoding section?


Mine is set to "Default for Current Locale" for both Fallback and 
Composing in SM 2.53.5.1.


The mail composition window has selections under Options > Text Encoding 
where mine is set to "Unicode". That must be the default for my current 
location.

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Re: how to assign filters to a new account?

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Gabriel wrote:

Hi all,

is it possible to assign a mail filter to new accounts?
I mean, say I already have a filter:
- account a...@aa.aa -> Inbox filter with several rules

I need to assign that filtering action to another account that has the same
email address but on a new server, is it possible?

thx




I would try copying the msgFilterRules.dat file from the working account 
to the new account in the profile folder.


Use Help > Troubleshooting Information or just type about:support into 
the address bar.

Find the Profile Directory entry in the Account Basics section.
Click the Open Directory button.
Find the Mail or ImapMail folder.
Open the folder.
Find the account the filters are created for and open the folder.
Copy the msgFilterRules.dat file.
Find the account where you want to add the rules and paste the file into it.

Quit and restart SeaMonkey.
Open Mail & Newsgroups.
You may need to run the filters once to do some training.

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Re: config / incoming message alert time

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rjkrjk wrote:

how do I control the length of time that an incoming message alert stay on
(lower right hand corner)



Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Notifications
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Re: Chatzilla not functioning! SM 2.53.5.1

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Daniel wrote:
I recently update my Windows 7 SM 2.49.5 (which I had set up to start 
Mail & Chatzilla) to 2.53.5.1 but, when I boot up, Chatzilla is not 
starting and is giving the error message 


Quote
XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://chatzilla/content/chatzilla.xul
Line Number 84, Column 7:
   tooltiptext="&server-nick.tooltip;"/>

--^
End Quote.

Does anyone know how to fix this??

(I haven't installed the update on my Linux, yet. That adventure is yet 
to be had!! ;-) )


ChatZilla WFM using SeaMonkey 2.53.5.1 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
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Re: how to reorder email accounts?

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On 12/15/20 12:25 PM, Gabriel wrote:

On 3 Dec 2020 at 04:33:35 CET, "Michael Lueck" 
wrote:


Rubens wrote:

  I still use that extension.
  
  
  It is named "Folderpane Tools 0.6.1"


Agreed, we use it as well...

Folderpane Tools 0.6.1
By chuonthis

Allows for customization of the folder pane such as rearranging accounts and
choosing a startup folder.Status

This extension is no longer being maintained. Please use this extension as an
alternative:
Manually sort folders



[...]

Thank you but it doesn't work on the latest SM version




Well, they backed out the change, but a future Thunderbird may have the 
ability to reorder accounts in the Account Settings.


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Re: Updated SeaMonkey to 2.53.5.1 - Now I CAN'T RENAME EMAIL FOLDERS

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sa...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  I use SeaMonkey eMail extensively, renaming folders regularly. 
Suddenly, after upgrading the latest version, "rename folder" function 
won't even pop up the dialog box, does nothing.

  My OS is Windows 10 on desktop PC.
  Any ideas?
ThanxaLot, Saler Paul


The default account folders or folders you created?

I can rename folders I created, not the default folders.
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Re: Updates: General

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On 12/7/20 5:34 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/7/20 2:43 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Now fast forward a few years to 2020 after working on this on-and-off.
With the release process still being half-manually generated (though
the process has gotten a bit faster), I figured I'd tackle this update
issue once and for all.


The way it works on Linux distros is really much better than I 
remember on Windows where individual apps had their own updaters with 
their own schedules, installers, and admin rights. On Linux distros, 
you run a simple command and the whole o/s (and all apps) offer their 
updates.


The issue for Edmund is trying to ensure that, when SeaMonkey is built 
by a distro and installed via their package manager, SeaMonkey's 
built-in updater doesn't interfere with that.  The system package keeps 
track of files it installs, so that they can be removed as necessary 
when the package is updated or uninstalled.  If SeaMonkey installed an 
update through its own mechanism, that would be outside the control and 
knowledge of the system's package manager and could break future updates 
and uninstalls.

 > Some applications provide a build-time option to disable automatic
updates.  I don't know if SeaMonkey has such an option, but if it does 
the onus might be on the people building packages for distros to use 
that option to disable SeaMonkey's updates.  Not sure where that would 
leave Ubuntuzilla though, as I think they simply package the official 
builds, so probably wouldn't be compiled with that option.




The Firefox and Thunderbird builds built by Ubuntu have 
"--disable-updater" in the configure options.





Ubuntu doesn't provide SeaMonkey in its main repo anymore.


For SeaMonkey on Ubuntu (and its derivatives such as Mint), there's the 
Ubuntuzilla repository:

https://sourceforge.net/p/ubuntuzilla/wiki/Main_Page/



I'm not interested in adding any other repositories.

I have to download and install each new version over the old. An 
internal app update mechanism would be greatly appreciated.


Even if SeaMonkey's built-in updater did work, personally I'd still use 
Ubuntuzilla since I find it more convenient to manage updates through 
the system's package manager, along with everything else.




I'd rather use the SeaMonkey built-in updater since the system's package 
manager doesn't provide the application.


I actually prefer the Windows way of installing and updating the 
applications from their developers.


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Re: Updates: General

[WaltS48]

On 12/7/20 2:43 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Now fast forward a few years to 2020 after working on this on-and-off.
With the release process still being half-manually generated (though
the process has gotten a bit faster), I figured I'd tackle this update
issue once and for all.


The way it works on Linux distros is really much better than I remember 
on Windows where individual apps had their own updaters with their own 
schedules, installers, and admin rights. On Linux distros, you run a 
simple command and the whole o/s (and all apps) offer their updates. 
SeaMonkey is already in EPEL for example, so it's a ten second job to 
update it. You don't need to run an exe file (installer), you just copy 
a few files, and you can even downgrade.




What is EPEL?

Ubuntu doesn't provide SeaMonkey in its main repo anymore.

I have to download and install each new version over the old. An 
internal app update mechanism would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: how to reorder email accounts?

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On 12/2/20 5:20 PM, Rubens wrote:

Gabriel wrote on 02/12/2020 11:23:

Hello all,

many years ago I used an extension to reorder my email accounts, now I 
had to

add some new accounts and I can't remember how I did it.
I mean, when you add email accounts, I'd like to reorder them in the 
left pane

of Mail window.
SM 2.53.4 macOS.

Thank you!





I still use that extension.


It is named "Folderpane Tools 0.6.1"


Best regards,


RF


Got a link to it?

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

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On 11/27/20 10:05 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

This German site reliably and consistently hard crashes SeaMonkey



Tried in safe-mode but page crashes too suddenly to id the issue. This
is will Windows 10 2004. Try with Ubuntu 16.04 managed to get the
busy-script dialog and seemed to point to JavaScript standard JQuery
v3.4.1. A minimized library so difficult to debug.

I see there is another update to 2.53.5.1 so will see if that fixes it.



No difference with 2.53.5.1, but can confirm it is definitely JavaScript
crashing the browser.



No crash here using SM 2.53.5.1 on Ubuntu 18.04.

Did get a script is slowing down your browser message. Clicked the stop 
button and can navigate the page.


Did you mean hangs?

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Re: Unable to Install

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On 11/19/20 10:51 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
I still can't get the installer to run on my Windows 10 system.  When I 
try to run the .exe installer file, I see a few flashes of the HD light, 
but the install window never appears.  Is any app known to interfere 
with the installer?  My full time security apps are Avast Free and 
ZoneAlarm.  I see no warning from either.


I haven't tried installing yet, buy I only have Windows Defender on my 
Win10 system.


I recommend disabling Avast and ZoneAlarm and retrying.

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Re: Javascript

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On 11/19/20 12:29 AM, G. Ross wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/18/2020 8:38 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 18/11/2020 15:16, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

G. Ross wrote:
Just started using the latest SM and when visiting local weather a 
message popped up saying I need JavaScript to view it.  Should I 
install Javascript and if so how to get it?  Thanks.


G.Ross


Javascript (as opposed to Java) is natively supported by pretty much 
all browsers, if that site thinks you don't have it then I see two 
possibilities:

- You have turned it off (Preferences -> Advanced -> Scripts & Plugins)
- You have something like Noscript running and that has turned it 
off for you, for this site.




Or the site tests for some JS primitive that SM doesn't implement.

Or the site doesn't recognise SM and proceeds on the assumption that 
it doesn't implement the JS level that it thinks is needed.


G. Ross, what's the weather web site? Do you have its exact URL you saw
this issue?


https://www.13wmaz.com/radar



I get a "Your browser is not fully supported. For full feature support, 
please upgrade to a modern browser such as Microsoft Edge."


Works in my Firefox though.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

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On 11/15/20 11:23 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.5.  While it was actually released on the 14th, I've only
gotten the chance of posting this today.  My apologies.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Further to note that due to some issues(I would believe bugs, though I
am hand-waving the details), the team is now preparing to get 2.53.1
out.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/






Slackware Linux has updated their users 


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Re: Setting up pop email account

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On 11/16/20 9:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 11/16/2020 07:13 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/16/20 5:49 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Due to operator error I've trashed all my profiles.
I need to create from scratch the email portion of my profile.
I find the information is scattered in the internal help system.
Is there a web page that gives *ALL* the details for setting up pop?
TIA




Have you tried pressing the F1 function key, or go to the Menu bar > 
Help > Help Contents > Using Mail & Newsgroups > Using the Mail 
Account Setup Wizard?




I had searched for "password" rather than "Using the Mail Account Setup 
Wizard" as I thought my immediate problem was password related. In 
meantime I discovered that one of my presumed junk machines seem to lack 
only my current password (my ISP is only a couple of miles away).


I would still like to know if the information is available on a web 
page. The internal help contents presumes reader is going to ask 
particular question in a specific order. A web page would allow me to 
access tabs in *MY* order rather than the author's order.


Thanks.




Try <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Category:Mozilla_Suite>

You could use a search engine and do a search.

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Re: Installer Not Opening

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On 11/15/20 11:00 PM, Ant wrote:

On 11/15/2020 5:14 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/15/20 6:53 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
I just downloaded seamonkey-2.53.5.en-US.win64.installer.exe. When I 
try to run the installer by double-clicking the 41376 KB file or 
using R-click Open, nothing happens.  The installer does not start 
the installation.


Wait for SM 2.53.5.1.


Is there a known issue with its installer or something?


Nah, AIUI the issue is with Mac Big Sur.

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Re: Setting up pop email account

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On 11/16/20 5:49 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

Due to operator error I've trashed all my profiles.
I need to create from scratch the email portion of my profile.
I find the information is scattered in the internal help system.
Is there a web page that gives *ALL* the details for setting up pop?
TIA




Have you tried pressing the F1 function key, or go to the Menu bar > 
Help > Help Contents > Using Mail & Newsgroups > Using the Mail Account 
Setup Wizard?


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Re: Installer Not Opening

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On 11/15/20 6:53 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
I just downloaded seamonkey-2.53.5.en-US.win64.installer.exe. When I try 
to run the installer by double-clicking the 41376 KB file or using 
R-click Open, nothing happens.  The installer does not start the 
installation.


Wait for SM 2.53.5.1.

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Re: connection to google calendar?

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On 11/15/20 4:25 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Just installed the latest Seamonkey (2.53.4).  Now trying to link it to my Google 
Calendar - but getting the error "not compatible with Seamonkey 2.53."

Any suggestions?  Any ETA for an updated provider?

Thanks!



What is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53?

Did you have it working before the update? If so, how?

I use the Google CalDAV calendar.



Should work in SeaMonkey, but I haven't tested it.

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Re: Can I stop all the "Flipping & Flopping" on FoxNews ?

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On 11/12/20 7:46 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I used to visit "FoxNews" web site, but it is so filled with THIS & THAT
loading and the screen never settles down due to krap loading constantly !

Is there some way to stop that ?  Ad Blocking just causes more "Please
Turn Off Ad Blocker" prompts.   A good web site is now TRASHED UP with
so many ads, it is worthless !   Everything else is trash.

DoctorBill


Tested in my SM 2.53.4 with no extensions and didn't see any this & that 
loading.


I do have all the user tracking settings enabled, prompt selected for 
Location Aware Browsing, and both Safe Browsing settings enabled in 
Preferences > Privacy & Security.


The Stop button would occasionally turn red, and I would see activity in 
the upper left video where the ads play.


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Re: Printer for USB Firefox

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On 11/9/20 11:54 AM, JAS wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

JAS wrote:
I am running SM 2.4.9 and have several portable browsers on a USB 
drive. When I load Firefox 82.0.2 it will not connect to my default 
printer, Chrome and Edge and Opera do. What needs to be done? I never 
done anything to the other Browsers, the Firefox shower my PDF 
Printer Lite from PDF Exchange my default PDF program.


JAS


You mean Seamonkey 2.49.5?  It looks like you do.
If this is a Firefox problem, why are you mentioning your Seamonkey 
level?
Are you saying your normal default printer is not selectable from 
Firefox?  WaltS48 may have an opinion on that, I'm running Linux - 
rather than your Windows 10 - and I don't even have that FF level.


My bad, it is SM 2.49.5 and I am using Seamonkey as my installed browser 
and running the rest from a Portable App installer and all of the 
programs are portable apps. Sorry about asking here and will post it in 
the Firefox forum--I should of realized this forum is for Seamonkey 
queries only.


JAS


Portable apps are supported at <https://portableapps.com/support>

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5b1 released!

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On 11/3/20 4:03 PM, Ant wrote:

On 11/3/2020 12:26 AM, Slugracing wrote:

Slugracing wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.5 Beta 1.

So please check out [1] or [2].


Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5b1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/





  Ill give it a try



?


Does look like 3 straight bar when reading, but is I'll without the ' in 
my reply.


I gots this way cool Language Tool extension for me Firefox which checks 
my grammar and spelling.


Wish it worked in TB.

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Re: book marks

[WaltS48]

On 11/3/20 10:43 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/2/2020 5:00 AM, jensd6...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,
I cant anymore add or delete book marks (favorites). Also there are no any 
records in the chronic.
I tried everything (new installation and so on), but no change.
I need help so solve it.
Thank you in advance.
Jens



What is "chronic"?



Short for chronicle, which may be History in a different language version?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5b1 released!

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On 10/29/20 2:46 PM, Steve Wendt wrote:

On 10/28/2020 4:47 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.5 Beta 1.


AV1 and WebP support, nice!  Plus the latest PDF.js is supposed to 
finally work with PDF email attachments!


The latest PDF.js extension for SeaMonkey?

I know it is built into Thunderbird 83.0b1 as a feature like Firefox.

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Re: Seamonkey and imgur.com

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Jonathan Wilson wrote:
Does anyone know how I can get imgur images to work in SeaMonkey? All I 
get when I visit such a URL is a blank screen. I tried user-agent 
overrides to identify as Firefox but that did nothing.
Works fine in several other web browsers I have available on this PC, 
just not SeaMonkey.

I tried with adblock disabled as well and that didn't help so its not that.


No problem here using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.4 with no extensions.


I did not try logging into my account.

I liked this one  :)

Have you tried safe mode using Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled?
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Re: Fwd: Attention Pacific.Net User

[WaltS48]

On 10/16/20 1:55 PM, Ant wrote:

On 10/16/2020 3:29 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Daniel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 16/10/2020 10:05 AM:

On 10/15/20 6:44 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote:

FYI


Sounds like a phishing attempt to me.

"We will NEVER send you an email asking you to visit a webpage to 
"confirm" your personal information (including your password) by 
entering it into a form."


<https://pacific.net/security/>


Looking at the From: line 

From:
"Webmail.Pacific.Net"

and noticing that the "Webmail.Pacific.Net" does not seem to match 
the "mail.sf.bg.ac.rs", I'd suggest *Almost Definitely* a phishing 
attempt.


.rs is Serbia, not that close to the Pacific.


Ditto. Why was it even posted in this newsgroup? :/


Because the OP is a SeaMonkey user and wanted to be helpful to the other 
pacific.net email account users that may be using SeaMonkey?


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Re: Fwd: Attention Pacific.Net User

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On 10/15/20 6:44 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote:

FYI


Sounds like a phishing attempt to me.

"We will NEVER send you an email asking you to visit a webpage to 
"confirm" your personal information (including your password) by 
entering it into a form."




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Re: No Images On One Site

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Thomas Pamin wrote:
Anyone know why images don't load on this site. They used to. Safe Mode 
doesn't change it.

https://flightsim.to/


I saw a the site is in Beta notification when it was loading.

A couple of the images appeared, the rest were blank.

Clicking on a blank image opened it for viewing.


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Re: green text

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rjkrjk wrote:
been reading the messages here, and it seems that all (95%) of quoted 
text is

a greenish color

didnt change anything, other than upgrade to current version 2.53.4




Check your Plain text settings at Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > 
Message Display.

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