Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-11-02 Thread James
A trick that will work in some applications [maybe not yours] is to 
place a left arrow in front of the URL and a right arrow at the end no 
spaces].  That prevents some programs from screwing it up.


Luck,
James
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:27:39 -0700
From: Useru...@user.com
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Subject: Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion
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NoOp wrote:
   

  On 10/30/2009 06:01 PM, User wrote:
 

  I recently copied a URL which contained spaces, from the URL field of the 
SM 2.0
  browser, into a SM 2.0 mail composition window, and then saved the e-mail 
as a
  draft. Upon reviewing the saved draft (without re-opening it for editing), I
  noticed that clickable portion of the URL with spaces that I pasted into the
  e-mail was truncated at the first space character encountered. Obviously, 
this
  is not surprising.

  However, I seem to recall that in SM 1.X versions, when pasting a URL with
  spaces or other special characters into the SM mail composition window, an
  automatic conversation process would take place whereby the pasted URL in 
the
  mail composition would then contain the necessary escape characters (e.g. 
for
  the space character, it would become %20 in the e-mail).

  Can someone confirm whether the automatic escape character conversion DOES
  INDEED take place in SM 1.X versions but now does NOT take place in SM 2.0's
  mail composition window or when the e-mail is saved / sent? In this case, I 
had
  to re-edit the saved draft to manually replace the space characters in the
  pasted URL into their correct escape character equivalents. Thanks for any 
input
  / confirmation on the above.
   


  Sure, here is an easy, reliable example[1]:

  SM 2.0:
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community
  click on #5 in 'Contents: Getting to know and work with your system
  You'll see that in SM2.0 the URL ends up as:
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting  to know and work with your
  system

  In 1.1.18 the same URL ends up as:
  
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

  [1] Sorry for not finding an mozilla example, but this is one that I
  know from heart:-)


 

Thanks for confirming that. I wasn't sure from using SM 1.X all these years, but
I did remember that I have NEVER had to manually insert escape characters when
pasting ANY URL into the mail composition window. I guess this is yet another
item on the to-do list for Seamonkey developers.

   


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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-11-01 Thread NoOp
On 10/31/2009 08:17 PM, User wrote:
 Thanks very much. Look forward to the bug report URL here if you don't mind 
 posting it later.
 
 
 NoOp wrote:
...

Please bottom post here :-)

 I'll be happy to file it in the morning; I tend to stay away from
 bugzilla in the evening :-)

Well I avoid filing at night for good reason... :-) Bugzilla tends to
make my eyes glaze over. So today in an effort to see if there is a
similar bug filed I checked:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__content=%2520

and found one that may be relevant:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475896
[When accessing urls in firefox with %20, it is replaced with a
whitespace. Breaks other software if you try to copy-paste part of the
url out of firefox]
quote
Many applications find the end of urls based on a whitespace (or maybe a
word
boundary) character at the end.

If I copy a url from firefox and paste it into something else it
requires me to manually replace the spaces with %20. This is slightly
more than annoying.
/quote

Given that SM 2.0 uses a lot of code from Fx, this might be a good place
to start  add comments. I'll do that first  then if no response I'll
open a new SeaMonkey only bug report.


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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-11-01 Thread User

NoOp wrote:

On 10/31/2009 08:17 PM, User wrote:

Thanks very much. Look forward to the bug report URL here if you don't mind
posting it later.


NoOp wrote:

...

Please bottom post here :-)


I'll be happy to file it in the morning; I tend to stay away from
bugzilla in the evening :-)


Well I avoid filing at night for good reason... :-) Bugzilla tends to
make my eyes glaze over. So today in an effort to see if there is a
similar bug filed I checked:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__content=%2520

and found one that may be relevant:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475896
[When accessing urls in firefox with %20, it is replaced with a
whitespace. Breaks other software if you try to copy-paste part of the
url out of firefox]
quote
Many applications find the end of urls based on a whitespace (or maybe a
word
boundary) character at the end.

If I copy a url from firefox and paste it into something else it
requires me to manually replace the spaces with %20. This is slightly
more than annoying.
/quote

Given that SM 2.0 uses a lot of code from Fx, this might be a good place
to start  add comments. I'll do that first  then if no response I'll
open a new SeaMonkey only bug report.




That's a good start, though the problem in SM is that when a URL in the browser 
has space characters, pasting the URL it into the mail composition window does 
not result in auto conversion of the space characters into its escape code 
equivalent, so I'm not sure if this means this is an issue in mail/news or SM or 
the browser. In SM 1.X the mail composition window would automatically convert 
it to escape code. This is going to be a big issue especially with any character 
that requires automatic escape code conversion, not just space characters only.

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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-11-01 Thread NoOp
On 11/01/2009 03:16 PM, User wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 Given that SM 2.0 uses a lot of code from Fx, this might be a good place
 to start  add comments. I'll do that first  then if no response I'll
 open a new SeaMonkey only bug report.


 
 That's a good start, though the problem in SM is that when a URL in the 
 browser 
 has space characters, pasting the URL it into the mail composition window 
 does 
 not result in auto conversion of the space characters into its escape code 
 equivalent, so I'm not sure if this means this is an issue in mail/news or SM 
 or 
 the browser. In SM 1.X the mail composition window would automatically 
 convert 
 it to escape code. This is going to be a big issue especially with any 
 character 
 that requires automatic escape code conversion, not just space characters 
 only.

Agreed. But let's give my comments to this bug a day  if no
action/added-comments I'll file a new SeaMonkey only bug.
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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-10-31 Thread NoOp
On 10/30/2009 07:27 PM, User wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 Sure, here is an easy, reliable example[1]:

 SM 2.0:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community
 click on #5 in 'Contents: Getting to know and work with your system
 You'll see that in SM2.0 the URL ends up as:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to know and work with your
 system

 In 1.1.18 the same URL ends up as:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

 [1] Sorry for not finding an mozilla example, but this is one that I
 know from heart :-)


 
 Thanks for confirming that. I wasn't sure from using SM 1.X all these years, 
 but 
 I did remember that I have NEVER had to manually insert escape characters 
 when 
 pasting ANY URL into the mail composition window. I guess this is yet another 
 item on the to-do list for Seamonkey developers.

Can you file a bug report regarding this? If so, post back with the
report url  I'll be happy to add my confirmation to the report. Thanks.


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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-10-31 Thread User

NoOp wrote:

On 10/30/2009 07:27 PM, User wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

Sure, here is an easy, reliable example[1]:

SM 2.0:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community
click on #5 in 'Contents: Getting to know and work with your system
You'll see that in SM2.0 the URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to know and work with your
system

In 1.1.18 the same URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

[1] Sorry for not finding an mozilla example, but this is one that I
know from heart :-)




Thanks for confirming that. I wasn't sure from using SM 1.X all these years, but
I did remember that I have NEVER had to manually insert escape characters when
pasting ANY URL into the mail composition window. I guess this is yet another
item on the to-do list for Seamonkey developers.


Can you file a bug report regarding this? If so, post back with the
report url  I'll be happy to add my confirmation to the report. Thanks.




I'm a power user, but I don't normally use the Bugzilla system to file bug 
reports. Have read up on the filing guidelines, but seem a bit complicated / 
daunting and don't want to end up filing it incorrectly or in duplicate since 
Bugzilla is an area I don't normally use. If you know how to file it, I'd be 
happy to learn from example. Thanks.

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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-10-31 Thread NoOp
On 10/31/2009 07:20 PM, User wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 10/30/2009 07:27 PM, User wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 ...
 Sure, here is an easy, reliable example[1]:

 SM 2.0:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community
 click on #5 in 'Contents: Getting to know and work with your system
 You'll see that in SM2.0 the URL ends up as:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to know and work with your
 system

 In 1.1.18 the same URL ends up as:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

 [1] Sorry for not finding an mozilla example, but this is one that I
 know from heart :-)



 Thanks for confirming that. I wasn't sure from using SM 1.X all these 
 years, but
 I did remember that I have NEVER had to manually insert escape characters 
 when
 pasting ANY URL into the mail composition window. I guess this is yet 
 another
 item on the to-do list for Seamonkey developers.

 Can you file a bug report regarding this? If so, post back with the
 report url  I'll be happy to add my confirmation to the report. Thanks.


 
 I'm a power user, but I don't normally use the Bugzilla system to file bug 
 reports. Have read up on the filing guidelines, but seem a bit complicated / 
 daunting and don't want to end up filing it incorrectly or in duplicate since 
 Bugzilla is an area I don't normally use. If you know how to file it, I'd be 
 happy to learn from example. Thanks.

I'll be happy to file it in the morning; I tend to stay away from
bugzilla in the evening :-)


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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-10-31 Thread User
Thanks very much. Look forward to the bug report URL here if you don't mind 
posting it later.



NoOp wrote:

On 10/31/2009 07:20 PM, User wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 10/30/2009 07:27 PM, User wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

Sure, here is an easy, reliable example[1]:

SM 2.0:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community
click on #5 in 'Contents: Getting to know and work with your system
You'll see that in SM2.0 the URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to know and work with your
system

In 1.1.18 the same URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

[1] Sorry for not finding an mozilla example, but this is one that I
know from heart :-)




Thanks for confirming that. I wasn't sure from using SM 1.X all these years, but
I did remember that I have NEVER had to manually insert escape characters when
pasting ANY URL into the mail composition window. I guess this is yet another
item on the to-do list for Seamonkey developers.


Can you file a bug report regarding this? If so, post back with the
report url   I'll be happy to add my confirmation to the report. Thanks.




I'm a power user, but I don't normally use the Bugzilla system to file bug
reports. Have read up on the filing guidelines, but seem a bit complicated /
daunting and don't want to end up filing it incorrectly or in duplicate since
Bugzilla is an area I don't normally use. If you know how to file it, I'd be
happy to learn from example. Thanks.


I'll be happy to file it in the morning; I tend to stay away from
bugzilla in the evening :-)




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SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-10-30 Thread User
I recently copied a URL which contained spaces, from the URL field of the SM 2.0 
browser, into a SM 2.0 mail composition window, and then saved the e-mail as a 
draft. Upon reviewing the saved draft (without re-opening it for editing), I 
noticed that clickable portion of the URL with spaces that I pasted into the 
e-mail was truncated at the first space character encountered. Obviously, this 
is not surprising.


However, I seem to recall that in SM 1.X versions, when pasting a URL with 
spaces or other special characters into the SM mail composition window, an 
automatic conversation process would take place whereby the pasted URL in the 
mail composition would then contain the necessary escape characters (e.g. for 
the space character, it would become %20 in the e-mail).


Can someone confirm whether the automatic escape character conversion DOES 
INDEED take place in SM 1.X versions but now does NOT take place in SM 2.0's 
mail composition window or when the e-mail is saved / sent? In this case, I had 
to re-edit the saved draft to manually replace the space characters in the 
pasted URL into their correct escape character equivalents. Thanks for any input 
/ confirmation on the above.

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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-10-30 Thread NoOp
On 10/30/2009 06:01 PM, User wrote:
 I recently copied a URL which contained spaces, from the URL field of the SM 
 2.0 
 browser, into a SM 2.0 mail composition window, and then saved the e-mail as 
 a 
 draft. Upon reviewing the saved draft (without re-opening it for editing), I 
 noticed that clickable portion of the URL with spaces that I pasted into the 
 e-mail was truncated at the first space character encountered. Obviously, 
 this 
 is not surprising.
 
 However, I seem to recall that in SM 1.X versions, when pasting a URL with 
 spaces or other special characters into the SM mail composition window, an 
 automatic conversation process would take place whereby the pasted URL in the 
 mail composition would then contain the necessary escape characters (e.g. for 
 the space character, it would become %20 in the e-mail).
 
 Can someone confirm whether the automatic escape character conversion DOES 
 INDEED take place in SM 1.X versions but now does NOT take place in SM 2.0's 
 mail composition window or when the e-mail is saved / sent? In this case, I 
 had 
 to re-edit the saved draft to manually replace the space characters in the 
 pasted URL into their correct escape character equivalents. Thanks for any 
 input 
 / confirmation on the above.

Sure, here is an easy, reliable example[1]:

SM 2.0:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community
click on #5 in 'Contents: Getting to know and work with your system
You'll see that in SM2.0 the URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to know and work with your
system

In 1.1.18 the same URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

[1] Sorry for not finding an mozilla example, but this is one that I
know from heart :-)


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Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion

2009-10-30 Thread User

NoOp wrote:

On 10/30/2009 06:01 PM, User wrote:

I recently copied a URL which contained spaces, from the URL field of the SM 2.0
browser, into a SM 2.0 mail composition window, and then saved the e-mail as a
draft. Upon reviewing the saved draft (without re-opening it for editing), I
noticed that clickable portion of the URL with spaces that I pasted into the
e-mail was truncated at the first space character encountered. Obviously, this
is not surprising.

However, I seem to recall that in SM 1.X versions, when pasting a URL with
spaces or other special characters into the SM mail composition window, an
automatic conversation process would take place whereby the pasted URL in the
mail composition would then contain the necessary escape characters (e.g. for
the space character, it would become %20 in the e-mail).

Can someone confirm whether the automatic escape character conversion DOES
INDEED take place in SM 1.X versions but now does NOT take place in SM 2.0's
mail composition window or when the e-mail is saved / sent? In this case, I had
to re-edit the saved draft to manually replace the space characters in the
pasted URL into their correct escape character equivalents. Thanks for any input
/ confirmation on the above.


Sure, here is an easy, reliable example[1]:

SM 2.0:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community
click on #5 in 'Contents: Getting to know and work with your system
You'll see that in SM2.0 the URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting to know and work with your
system

In 1.1.18 the same URL ends up as:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community#Getting%20to%20know%20and%20work%20with%20your%20system

[1] Sorry for not finding an mozilla example, but this is one that I
know from heart :-)




Thanks for confirming that. I wasn't sure from using SM 1.X all these years, but 
I did remember that I have NEVER had to manually insert escape characters when 
pasting ANY URL into the mail composition window. I guess this is yet another 
item on the to-do list for Seamonkey developers.

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