Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-25 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 24/12/2009 03:29, Rufus told the world: SM 1.1.18 does what I need, and the way I need it done. And I've been looking over alternatives left and right - Firefox...nogo. Camino, Stainless, Chrome, and Safari all look like they have common roots. Almost, but not quite.

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-25 Thread Rufus
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 24/12/2009 03:29, Rufus told the world: SM 1.1.18 does what I need, and the way I need it done. And I've been looking over alternatives left and right - Firefox...nogo. Camino, Stainless, Chrome, and Safari all look like they have common roots.

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert Kaiser wrote: Right, it is. And even maintaining al bunch of code you don't really know and which is sometimes written in strange ways is a quite hard job, have you ever tried that? Unfortunately yes. And I looked at SM code briefly and decided it was the mutant offspring of people

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Benoit Renard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work, at least without Multizilla, which

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-22 Thread Benoit Renard
MCBastos wrote: Again, it's a matter of manpower. SM *was* going somewhat independently from Firefox for the last few years, on the 1.1 branch -- and what was the result? The rendering engine was looking more and more dated every day, ditto for the Javascript engine and other core stuff. That

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread John Doue
On 12/21/2009 5:14 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: snip Our only chance of keeping SeaMonkey alive at all was to reduce the amount of unknown code we cannot maintain and replace it with code that is being maintained by someone else - which meant switching to the newer Mozilla platform, of which e.g.

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Benoit Renard
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work, at least without Multizilla, which basically converted it to

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: /snip/ Not an option, he's on a Mac. Parellels, VMWare Fusion, probably Virtual Box. Phil

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: So I really don't get why they've knuckled under and merely imported TB and FF code instead of maintaining their own, based on that code...this is all open source, right? Right, it is. And even maintaining al bunch of code you don't really know and which is

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Rufus
Benoit Renard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work, at least without Multizilla, which

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 21/12/2009 03:32, Rufus told the world: And I guess that's what I don't get...volunteers are generally more dedicated and principled than paid hacks. Or at least the ones I've encountered have been...so I'm not into coddling them. They are, but since they aren't

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Rufus
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 21/12/2009 03:32, Rufus told the world: And I guess that's what I don't get...volunteers are generally more dedicated and principled than paid hacks. Or at least the ones I've encountered have been...so I'm not into coddling them. They are, but since

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Leonidas Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work, at least without Multizilla, which basically

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:28:43 -0200, MCBastos wrote: You have a boat. It has a wooden hull, it's old and leaky. You have three guys to work on the boat. They spend all the time plugging leaks. Then someone offers you a brand-new, fiberglass hull. You move your engine, bunks, head, kitchen etc.

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-21 Thread Rufus
Philip Chee wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:28:43 -0200, MCBastos wrote: You have a boat. It has a wooden hull, it's old and leaky. You have three guys to work on the boat. They spend all the time plugging leaks. Then someone offers you a brand-new, fiberglass hull. You move your engine, bunks,

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-20 Thread Leonidas Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of Open Source. Perhaps you should just give up and install Maxthon. Not an option, he's on a Mac. Parellels, VMWare Fusion, probably Virtual

Re: Who are Seamonkey's core user base?till not an answer

2009-12-20 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of Open Source. Perhaps you should just give up and install Maxthon. Not an option, he's on a Mac. Parellels, VMWare