Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? That would be an awesome feature. Is there a list of new features to be implemented? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2013 20:01, Ray_Net told the world: WaltS wrote, On 19/02/2013 20:40: On 02/19/2013 02:33 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems optimal, PDF is a format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file basis, so the current action seems appropriate. He probably has this in mind. http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/02/19/firefox-introduces-pdf-viewer-to-browse-the-web-without-interruption/ I don't like plugins, i prefer to work as now. clicking on a pdf page let me choice between save the file or open it with the default acrobat reader. The whole point of pdf.js is that it's not exactly a plugin. With plugins, the browser hands the file to an external process and just reserves a space in the screen for that external process to display the results. With pdf.js, all the rendering is done inside Gecko itself, which supposedly makes the experience more smooth and seamless. With that said... I'll probably end up disabling it. I much prefer downloading PDFs than reading them online. If you don't want to read it online, a Right Click/Save As is all you need to do. I've been using PDF.js for months now on 64-bit Ubuntu because Adobe never released a 64-bit reader for Linux. On my 32-bit laptop, I have the Adobe plug-in, but it is only Version 9. Looks like Adobe is no longer developing the reader for Linux, so the support for PDF.js just makes sense. -- Jaime A. Cruz Secretary Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Interviewed by CNN on 20/02/2013 09:15, Cruz, Jaime told the world: MCBastos wrote: The whole point of pdf.js is that it's not exactly a plugin. With plugins, the browser hands the file to an external process and just reserves a space in the screen for that external process to display the results. With pdf.js, all the rendering is done inside Gecko itself, which supposedly makes the experience more smooth and seamless. With that said... I'll probably end up disabling it. I much prefer downloading PDFs than reading them online. If you don't want to read it online, a Right Click/Save As is all you need to do. I've been using PDF.js for months now on 64-bit Ubuntu because Adobe never released a 64-bit reader for Linux. On my 32-bit laptop, I have the Adobe plug-in, but it is only Version 9. Looks like Adobe is no longer developing the reader for Linux, so the support for PDF.js just makes sense. I know that, but not all websites expose the actual PDF on the link in a right-clickable way, instead using redirects. For those, before I disabled the PDF plugin, I had to wait for the document to load and parse (which could take a while, for larger documents) and then use the save command. Which was annoying. Also, in my experience paging through a long PDF with lots of pictures (like, say, a motherboard manual) using a plugin is a dismal experience, compared to just saving it and reading it locally. And finally, I don't see much point in reading a PDF online -- PDFs are usually stable documents (like books) that you probably want to keep at hand even if your connection fails. The whole point of making a PDF file is that it's all self-contained like a book, with no external dependencies -- so you can use it offline. Since I was going to save the PDFs anyway, disabling the PDF plugin and letting the download manager or DownThemAll take over streamlined the process. I'm going to give pdf.js a try to see if it improves the experience compared to conventional plugins, but I'm not that optimist. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Nintendo Game Boy. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.15.2 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:22:44 -0800, David E. Ross wrote: On 2/19/13 11:22 AM, WaltS wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? Doubt it. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.16/ The release notes indicate: SSL-related warning prompts (leaving or entering a secure site, viewing mixed content) have been replaced by less intrusive, non-modal notification bars. Is there a way (e.g., a preference variable) to keep the dialogue popup? Yes. You can write an extension. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? Doubt it. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.16/ -- Fedora 18.0 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.5 SeaMonkey Release 2.15.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems optimal, PDF is a format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file basis, so the current action seems appropriate. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
On 02/19/2013 02:33 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems optimal, PDF is a format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file basis, so the current action seems appropriate. He probably has this in mind. http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/02/19/firefox-introduces-pdf-viewer-to-browse-the-web-without-interruption/ -- Fedora 18.0 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.5 Thunderbird Release Are they out yet? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
WaltS wrote: On 02/19/2013 02:33 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems optimal, PDF is a format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file basis, so the current action seems appropriate. He probably has this in mind. http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/02/19/firefox-introduces-pdf-viewer-to-browse-the-web-without-interruption/ The article seems to tout the ability to view PDFs without additional clicks as a big deal, but we can already set SM to do that if we so desire. I personally would rather have the choice of configuring my browser to open them in a plugin or a standalone app or automatically save them or ask me or whatever. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
On 2/19/13 11:22 AM, WaltS wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? Doubt it. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.16/ The release notes indicate: SSL-related warning prompts (leaving or entering a secure site, viewing mixed content) have been replaced by less intrusive, non-modal notification bars. Is there a way (e.g., a preference variable) to keep the dialogue popup? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? ...would be nice, but I'd be happier if they just fixed the drop down menus. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
On 2013-02-19 2:13 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? The PDF viewer was first tried out as an extension, before being added to the Firefox code. If the PDF viewer isn't part of SeaMonkey (I don't know if it is), you can go to Tools--Add-ons_Manager--Get_Add-ons, and search for PDF Viewer. It should be the first extension in the list. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
WaltS wrote, On 19/02/2013 20:40: On 02/19/2013 02:33 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems optimal, PDF is a format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file basis, so the current action seems appropriate. He probably has this in mind. http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/02/19/firefox-introduces-pdf-viewer-to-browse-the-web-without-interruption/ I don't like plugins, i prefer to work as now. clicking on a pdf page let me choice between save the file or open it with the default acrobat reader. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2013 20:01, Ray_Net told the world: WaltS wrote, On 19/02/2013 20:40: On 02/19/2013 02:33 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems optimal, PDF is a format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file basis, so the current action seems appropriate. He probably has this in mind. http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/02/19/firefox-introduces-pdf-viewer-to-browse-the-web-without-interruption/ I don't like plugins, i prefer to work as now. clicking on a pdf page let me choice between save the file or open it with the default acrobat reader. The whole point of pdf.js is that it's not exactly a plugin. With plugins, the browser hands the file to an external process and just reserves a space in the screen for that external process to display the results. With pdf.js, all the rendering is done inside Gecko itself, which supposedly makes the experience more smooth and seamless. With that said... I'll probably end up disabling it. I much prefer downloading PDFs than reading them online. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Casio wristwatch. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.15.2 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WaltS wrote: On 02/19/2013 02:33 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul Bergsagel wrote: Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support for the .pdf file format? What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems optimal, PDF is a format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file basis, so the current action seems appropriate. He probably has this in mind. http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/02/19/firefox-introduces-pdf-viewer-to-browse-the-web-without-interruption/ The article seems to tout the ability to view PDFs without additional clicks as a big deal, but we can already set SM to do that if we so desire. I personally would rather have the choice of configuring my browser to open them in a plugin or a standalone app or automatically save them or ask me or whatever. Did they make sure it had the ability to fillout PDF Forms online? and print them without downloading the PDF. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
