Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Jay Garcia
On 22.09.2010 00:40, Philip Chee wrote: --- Original Message --- On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:25:24 -0500, Jay Garcia wrote: Look at the list of devs (module owners) here: http://www.mozilla.org/about/owners.html For SeaMonkey specific developers perhaps it would be better to look at:

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Kaiser
Philip Chee schrieb: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:25:24 -0500, Jay Garcia wrote: Look at the list of devs (module owners) here: http://www.mozilla.org/about/owners.html For SeaMonkey specific developers perhaps it would be better to look at: http://dev.seamonkey.at/?d=xi=projectm=ff.level=1

Re: Why so many up-grades?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Kaiser
MintyJewel schrieb: Can you please explain ( to confused little me ) why there are so many massive overhauls? The updates that get applied automatically are only security and stability fixes, not massive overhauls. Those should never break anything, and any add-ons from the official

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Lucas Levrel
Le 22 septembre 2010, Robert Kaiser a écrit : Phew, and I had hoped to not have this URL spread to widely because I have no clue what heavy hitting it and its links will do to the server - and when you publish it here, Google and others will probably go and follow every link to index it...

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-22 Thread d...@kd4e.com
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: What I've done on my laptop is set up another SMTP server in my mail and news account settings, and when (for example) connecting through Verizon, who are not my normal ISP, I make that my default SMTP server (the setup for that SMTP server has to include a Verizon

Re: automatic upgrade without notice or (explicit) permission

2010-09-22 Thread chicagofan
NoOp wrote: On 09/17/2010 07:39 AM, Daniel Barclay wrote: I've just been hit with SeaMonkey's automatic upgrade (from 2.0.7 to 2.0.8) even though the installer never said it was setting things up for automatic upgrade, and I never explicitly gave permission for SeaMonkey to make changes

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Phillip Jones
Lucas Levrel wrote: ---snip--- Do you think Google and others don't honor them? A resounding YES!! I was considering a Captcha software to put on Web page on a website for an association, I found out that Googel had purchased it. So Now the members only

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread d...@kd4e.com
Phillip Jones wrote: Lucas Levrel wrote: ---snip--- Do you think Google and others don't honor them? A resounding YES!! I was considering a Captcha software to put on Web page on a website for an association, I found out that Googel had purchased it. So Now

Re: automatic upgrade without notice or (explicit) permission

2010-09-22 Thread Phillip Jones
chicagofan wrote: NoOp wrote: On 09/17/2010 07:39 AM, Daniel Barclay wrote: I've just been hit with SeaMonkey's automatic upgrade (from 2.0.7 to 2.0.8) even though the installer never said it was setting things up for automatic upgrade, and I never explicitly gave permission for SeaMonkey to

Re: Why so many up-grades?

2010-09-22 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: MintyJewel schrieb: Can you please explain ( to confused little me ) why there are so many massive overhauls? The updates that get applied automatically are only security and stability fixes, not massive overhauls. Those should never break anything, and any add-ons from

SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-22 Thread user
Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user). When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see. I terminate this errant

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Has something changed so that everyone needs to do this in SM now? No. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Phillip Jones wrote: Lucas Levrel wrote: ---snip--- Restore snip: There exist HTML meta tags telling bots not to index and even not to follow links. Do you think Google and others don't honor them? A resounding YES!! Phillip, your paranoia is showing

Re: Google-free SM [Was: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available]

2010-09-22 Thread d...@kd4e.com
So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? Have you heard the pompous declarations of the head of Google? That soon people will not ask Google merely for information but will rely upon them for direction because Google has gathered so much

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-22 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: What I've done on my laptop is set up another SMTP server in my mail and news account settings, and when (for example) connecting through Verizon, who are not my normal ISP, I make that my default SMTP server (the setup for that SMTP server has to

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Phillip Jones
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Lucas Levrel wrote: ---snip--- Restore snip: There exist HTML meta tags telling bots not to index and even not to follow links. Do you think Google and others don't honor them? A resounding YES!!

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? If Google owns and knows the captcha database, then it will be easy to bypass the captcha and get private information. For example I want to

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Ray_Net
Jay Garcia wrote: On 21.09.2010 16:40, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 21.09.2010 10:11, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 20.09.2010 16:09, Ray_Net wrote: --- Original Message --- W3BNR wrote: On 9/20/2010 5:05 AM

Re: compact folder

2010-09-22 Thread Daniel Barclay
Ray_Net wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: if the folder is re-created uncompacted - there is not an easy way to recover an old message ... These SM folders are actually files that can be opened with a text editor. ... you can then search the file contents for something in the message or

ZoomText and SeaMonkey

2010-09-22 Thread John Cunniff
Hi Everybody, I want to let you know that I got a new screen magnification/Reader called is ZoomText version 9.18 from my Blind state agency. I tried composing a message, but sadly, it didn't detect a cursor. I contacted ZoomText staff at their Facebook. Someone told me that I would try

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Jay Garcia
On 22.09.2010 13:54, Phillip Jones wrote: --- Original Message --- Lucas Levrel wrote: ---snip--- Do you think Google and others don't honor them? A resounding YES!! Well, you're wrong, they do. I was considering a Captcha software to put on Web page

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Hansen
On 9/22/2010 11:50 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: You mean that when I am at the coffee shop and am using their Wifi I would need to ID their server and add it in order to send E-mails? The same with the Dunkin Donuts, the library, the airport, etc? Most likely, yes. I have not had to do

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-22 Thread d...@kd4e.com
Mark Hansen wrote: Perhaps you're ISP never required this before? Only one of the three E-mail accounts have anything to do with my ISP. The other two are hosted entirely apart from my ISP, one on the GoDaddy servers and one on another smaller server. This eliminates my ISP as the source of

Re: ZoomText and SeaMonkey

2010-09-22 Thread Beverly Howard
I want to let you know that I got a new screen magnification/Reader called is ZoomText version 9.18 from my Blind state agency. Thanks for the post. It is helpful to get input on needs that most of us cannot comprehend. It would help if you posted some additional information including;

Re: Why so many up-grades?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Kaiser
Phillip Jones schrieb: I've seen twice recently where SeaMonkey installed totally new application not just patched current install. both on 2.0.5 and 2.0.7 Both those have just stability and security changes over their predecessors. The way it's installed doesn't way anything to do with

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-22 Thread Leonidas Jones
d...@kd4e.com d...@kd4e.com wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Perhaps you're ISP never required this before? Only one of the three E-mail accounts have anything to do with my ISP. The other two are hosted entirely apart from my ISP, one on the GoDaddy servers and one on another smaller server.

Re: Google-free SM [Was: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available]

2010-09-22 Thread Leonidas Jones
d...@kd4e.com d...@kd4e.com wrote: So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? Have you heard the pompous declarations of the head of Google? That soon people will not ask Google merely for information but will rely upon them for

Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-22 Thread Leonidas Jones
u...@domain.invalid wrote: Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user). When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.

Re: Google-free SM [Was: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available]

2010-09-22 Thread d...@kd4e.com
That soon people will not ask Google merely for information but will rely upon them for direction because Google has gathered so much data about them over so long a period of time that they know more about them than they do. Orwell's 1984 may be a few decades late but according to Google they

Re: Cannot send except at home

2010-09-22 Thread JAS
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: What I've done on my laptop is set up another SMTP server in my mail and news account settings, and when (for example) connecting through Verizon, who are not my normal ISP, I make that my default SMTP server (the setup for that SMTP server has

Re: ZoomText and SeaMonkey

2010-09-22 Thread John Cunniff
Beverly Howard wrote: Your Operating System Windows XP Services Pack 3 Your Monitor size 21 inches Your Video settings (pixel size) 800 X 600 Seamonkey version 2.0.8 Physical Size (the height of characters) the text needs to be for you to easily read it.

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Phillip Jones
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? If Google owns and knows the captcha database, then it will be easy to bypass the captcha and get private

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

2010-09-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? If Google owns and knows the captcha database, then it will be easy to bypass the

Re: Google-free SM [Was: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available]

2010-09-22 Thread Ed Mullen
d...@kd4e.com wrote: So what is Googel going to do with your association members' names? Steal their bank accounts? Have you heard the pompous declarations of the head of Google? http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/forwhati.htm -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Only in America are there