Re: Download Manager won't resume DL'ing a partially loaded file

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
I have been using the DownLoader that came with SM 1.1 and it usually 
works fine.


I was just downloading a 17 MB file on my slower than a snail dial-up 
when I got "disconnected" at about 11 MB downloaded (an hour or more 
of downloading!)


When I tried to go back and start downloading again, the SM Downloader 
now wants to start all over again !


yup, thats typical

The partially downloaded file is labeled "filename.exe.part" and is 
~11 MB in size.


Why won't it pick up where it left off ?  I picked the .part file to 
resume...


Can I somehow force it to "resume" ?


nope, thats one of the downsides of SM downloader, you can't restart 
where you left off.


If not, I have another downloader (WinGet 1.9) which is SUPPOSED to 
resume disconnected downloads and even splits up the connections to 
speed up downloading.


Question 1.  Can I force SM 1.1's Downloader to resume?

if not

I put a dll from WinGet into SM 1.1's plugin folder as required, but 
WinGet doesn't take over as specified;


"WinGet can automatically intercept Netscape's default download 
dialog. To enable integration with Netscape, copy the file WinNP.dll 
from the WinGet installation folder to Netscape plug-ins folder and 
rename it to NPWinGet.dll."



Question 2.  How can I make SM 1.1 use WinGet


it should

 and not it's own downLoader?  SM 1.1's plugins are named npname.dll, 
but is more needed to be done?


I might be wrong here, but I think winget monitors the clipboard.  So 
you need to copy the download link, and when winget sees the download 
link in the clipboard, then it'll start the download.


Question 3.  Can I set SM 1.1 up to give me a choice in the Tools 
Toolbar?


No



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Re: Download Manager won't resume DL'ing a partially loaded file

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

DoctorBill wrote:
I have been using the DownLoader that came with SM 1.1 and it usually 
works fine.


I was just downloading a 17 MB file on my slower than a snail dial-up 
when I got "disconnected" at about 11 MB downloaded (an hour or more of 
downloading!)


When I tried to go back and start downloading again, the SM Downloader 
now wants to start all over again !


yup, thats typical

The partially downloaded file is labeled "filename.exe.part" and is ~11 
MB in size.


Why won't it pick up where it left off ?  I picked the .part file to 
resume...


Can I somehow force it to "resume" ?


nope, thats one of the downsides of SM downloader, you 
can't restart where you left off.


If not, I have another downloader (WinGet 1.9) which is SUPPOSED to 
resume disconnected downloads and even splits up the connections to 
speed up downloading.


Question 1.  Can I force SM 1.1's Downloader to resume?

if not

I put a dll from WinGet into SM 1.1's plugin folder as required, but 
WinGet doesn't take over as specified;


"WinGet can automatically intercept Netscape's default download dialog. 
To enable integration with Netscape, copy the file WinNP.dll from the 
WinGet installation folder to Netscape plug-ins folder and rename it to 
NPWinGet.dll."



Question 2.  How can I make SM 1.1 use WinGet


it should

 and not it's own 
downLoader?  SM 1.1's plugins are named npname.dll, but is more needed 
to be done?


I might be wrong here, but I think winget monitors the 
clipboard.  So you need to copy the download link, and 
when winget sees the download link in the clipboard, 
then it'll start the download.



Question 3.  Can I set SM 1.1 up to give me a choice in the Tools Toolbar?


No

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Re: Download Manager won't resume DL'ing a partially loaded file

2009-01-11 Thread Robert Kaiser

DoctorBill wrote:

Can I somehow force it to "resume" ?


No, you cannot resume in SeaMonkey 1.1 - we're currently working on 
getting SeaMonkey 2 to use the same download code as Firefox, which can 
resume downloads, so we hope to have that functionality in 2.0 (it's not 
even in current nightlies yet).


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Re: Download Manager won't resume DL'ing a partially loaded file

2009-01-10 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

JeffM wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I was just downloading a 17 MB file on my slower than a snail dial-up
when I got "disconnected" at about 11 MB downloaded
(an hour or more of downloading!)

When I tried to go back and start downloading again,
the SM Downloader now wants to start all over again !


Calling that PoS a "Download Manager" is a fraud.
IMO, it is THE major shortcoming of the suite.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/85c603ab39bd514d/fd9912f35a56c46f?q=zzz+download.resume+is-already-part-of-SeaMonkey-v2.0a+bug+core-bug+SuiteRunner-builds+changes 


news:zuodnx7hbyrkj5danz2dnuvz_jkdn...@mozilla.org

Here is a listing of various apps
with ratings on their Gecko compatibility:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:1P6mfSUbPRcJ:plugindoc.mozdev.org/windows4.html+css+Freeware+validate+Adware+HTML+Commercial+GetRight.*.*.Version.*.*.*.*+zh+SeaMonkey+registration.required 



Even if you can't get Click Detection
transfered from the browser to the app,
you should be able to open the app
and drag & drop the link onto it.


Been working with WinGet 1.9 whilst waiting for someone to answer this 
post.


I added the .dll to SM's plugin folder as directed, but SM 1.1 will not 
detect the click - it always goes to it's default DM.


WinGet shows up in "about:plugins", so I know it is there.

WinGet has a button on the Desktop's lower right bar (don't know what 
that is called) which brings up the WinGet downloader.


If I copy and paste, it works quite nicely !

Must admit, I haven't interrupted the download and tried to resume yet.

What is strange is that SM 1.1 has had downloads interrupted and resumed 
in the past - just wouldn't do it for this download:


http://www.brothersoft.com/d.php?soft_id=98431&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.brothersoft.com%2Fdvd_video%2Fvideo_conversion%2FFFSetup1_65.exe 



 From Googling about SM's downloader for a while, I see that resuming is 
not one of its better functions.


DoctorBill


ERASE...ERASE.

Now after having rebooted Windows twice, WinGet 1.9 throws up a frame 
and starts downloading


I also made sure that the Download option in Edit | Preferences was set 
to "do nothing".


OK - it is working - for now.

I like the way WinGet 1.9 works (it is Freeware)but I haven't tried 
an interruption to see if it resumes well.


http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page17.html#WinGet

There are newer versions, but they're not free.

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Re: Download Manager won't resume DL'ing a partially loaded file

2009-01-10 Thread DoctorBill

JeffM wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I was just downloading a 17 MB file on my slower than a snail dial-up
when I got "disconnected" at about 11 MB downloaded
(an hour or more of downloading!)

When I tried to go back and start downloading again,
the SM Downloader now wants to start all over again !


Calling that PoS a "Download Manager" is a fraud.
IMO, it is THE major shortcoming of the suite.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/85c603ab39bd514d/fd9912f35a56c46f?q=zzz+download.resume+is-already-part-of-SeaMonkey-v2.0a+bug+core-bug+SuiteRunner-builds+changes
news:zuodnx7hbyrkj5danz2dnuvz_jkdn...@mozilla.org

Here is a listing of various apps
with ratings on their Gecko compatibility:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:1P6mfSUbPRcJ:plugindoc.mozdev.org/windows4.html+css+Freeware+validate+Adware+HTML+Commercial+GetRight.*.*.Version.*.*.*.*+zh+SeaMonkey+registration.required

Even if you can't get Click Detection
transfered from the browser to the app,
you should be able to open the app
and drag & drop the link onto it.


Been working with WinGet 1.9 whilst waiting for someone to answer this post.

I added the .dll to SM's plugin folder as directed, but SM 1.1 will not 
detect the click - it always goes to it's default DM.


WinGet shows up in "about:plugins", so I know it is there.

WinGet has a button on the Desktop's lower right bar (don't know what 
that is called) which brings up the WinGet downloader.


If I copy and paste, it works quite nicely !

Must admit, I haven't interrupted the download and tried to resume yet.

What is strange is that SM 1.1 has had downloads interrupted and resumed 
in the past - just wouldn't do it for this download:


http://www.brothersoft.com/d.php?soft_id=98431&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.brothersoft.com%2Fdvd_video%2Fvideo_conversion%2FFFSetup1_65.exe

From Googling about SM's downloader for a while, I see that resuming is 
not one of its better functions.


DoctorBill
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Re: Download Manager won't resume DL'ing a partially loaded file

2009-01-10 Thread JeffM
DoctorBill wrote:
>I was just downloading a 17 MB file on my slower than a snail dial-up
>when I got "disconnected" at about 11 MB downloaded
>(an hour or more of downloading!)
>
>When I tried to go back and start downloading again,
>the SM Downloader now wants to start all over again !
>
Calling that PoS a "Download Manager" is a fraud.
IMO, it is THE major shortcoming of the suite.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/85c603ab39bd514d/fd9912f35a56c46f?q=zzz+download.resume+is-already-part-of-SeaMonkey-v2.0a+bug+core-bug+SuiteRunner-builds+changes
news:zuodnx7hbyrkj5danz2dnuvz_jkdn...@mozilla.org

Here is a listing of various apps
with ratings on their Gecko compatibility:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:1P6mfSUbPRcJ:plugindoc.mozdev.org/windows4.html+css+Freeware+validate+Adware+HTML+Commercial+GetRight.*.*.Version.*.*.*.*+zh+SeaMonkey+registration.required

Even if you can't get Click Detection
transfered from the browser to the app,
you should be able to open the app
and drag & drop the link onto it.
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Download Manager won't resume DL'ing a partially loaded file

2009-01-10 Thread DoctorBill
I have been using the DownLoader that came with SM 1.1 and it usually 
works fine.


I was just downloading a 17 MB file on my slower than a snail dial-up 
when I got "disconnected" at about 11 MB downloaded (an hour or more of 
downloading!)


When I tried to go back and start downloading again, the SM Downloader 
now wants to start all over again !


The partially downloaded file is labeled "filename.exe.part" and is ~11 
MB in size.


Why won't it pick up where it left off ?  I picked the .part file to 
resume...


Can I somehow force it to "resume" ?

If not, I have another downloader (WinGet 1.9) which is SUPPOSED to 
resume disconnected downloads and even splits up the connections to 
speed up downloading.


Question 1.  Can I force SM 1.1's Downloader to resume?

if not

I put a dll from WinGet into SM 1.1's plugin folder as required, but 
WinGet doesn't take over as specified;


"WinGet can automatically intercept Netscape's default download dialog. 
To enable integration with Netscape, copy the file WinNP.dll from the 
WinGet installation folder to Netscape plug-ins folder and rename it to 
NPWinGet.dll."



Question 2.  How can I make SM 1.1 use WinGet and not it's own 
downLoader?  SM 1.1's plugins are named npname.dll, but is more needed 
to be done?


Question 3.  Can I set SM 1.1 up to give me a choice in the Tools Toolbar?

Sorry for so many questions all at once.

DoctorBill
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