Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-30 Thread Danny Kile

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. 
Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.




To keep a message from opening in the preview pane when you select it 
just right-click the message and then in the drop down box select Junk 
or Not Junk. The selected message will not display in the preview pane 
during this operation.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

EE wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk 
message. Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked 
as read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good 
sense to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk 
message by mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


To prevent opening the message when you select it, pull down the View 
menu, choose Layout, and uncheck Message Pane.  You can use a separate 
window to display messages.


I'm well aware of how to disable the preview pane.

Most of the time, I prefer to have the three-pane layout (folder list, 
message list, preview pane). It's only very rarely that I need to select 
a junk message without opening it, and I usually remember to disable the 
preview pane for that moment.


All of which I already said.

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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-15 Thread EE

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. 
Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


To prevent opening the message when you select it, pull down the View 
menu, choose Layout, and uncheck Message Pane.  You can use a separate 
window to display messages.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not 
junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why 
would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-14 Thread EE

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


-Steve


What do you mean those buttons are not appearing everywhere?  Is one or 
the other not in the main toolbar?  If not, put it there.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-14 Thread EE

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in 
your address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> 
{the account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk 
buttons don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on 
called JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at the 
top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not junk. 
But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-14 Thread EE

Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.



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Train it that that is not junk.  The Junk button turns into a Not Junk 
button if the message is marked as junk.  Click that to train the 
application.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at the 
top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not junk. 
But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why would I?


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-14 Thread Steve Dunn

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


-Steve
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Re: A question regarding junk mail

2017-12-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Zeb Carter wrote:

I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


"Ignore warning" doesn't train the Junk Mail Control feature. It 
basically says, "I know it's junk, but quit nagging me."


In order to train the JMC feature, you have to mark the message as "not 
junk."


Message | Mark | As not Junk or SHIFT-J will do it.

After a few of those, SM should take the hint.

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