Re: HTML5 support

[Paul Bergsagel]

chokito wrote:

On my Windows 7 64-bit works Netflix only with no Seamonkey in the user agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 works 
fine.

Here is my  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; 
rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


and I have no difficulty playing the video.  I did NOT have to remove 
SeaMonkey from the user agent for the video to play.


The only plugins are: VLC Web Plugin and Quicktime Plugin

and

extensions: Adblock Plus and PDF Viewer.

I do not have Silverlight installed. Silverlight does not appear to be 
needed to play the video.

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Re: HTML5 support

[Lee]

On 12/24/17, Mark B  wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>> On 12/24/17, Hartmut Figge  wrote:
>>> Lee:
>>>
 There's supposed to be a start menu option for starting seamonkey in
 safe mode -- I don't have it either :(
>>>
>>> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171224.png
>>
>> Right.  But didn't there used to be a windows start menu option for
>> starting seamonkey in safe mode?  I have just 3 items under seamonkey
>> in the start menu:
>>Profile Manager
>>SeaMonkey
>>SeaMonkey Mail
>>
>> Lee
>>
> seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

and now I can add the menu entry manually
Thank you!

Lee
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Re: HTML5 support

[Mark B]

Lee wrote:

On 12/24/17, Hartmut Figge  wrote:

Lee:


There's supposed to be a start menu option for starting seamonkey in
safe mode -- I don't have it either :(


http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171224.png


Right.  But didn't there used to be a windows start menu option for
starting seamonkey in safe mode?  I have just 3 items under seamonkey
in the start menu:
   Profile Manager
   SeaMonkey
   SeaMonkey Mail

Lee


seamonkey.exe -safe-mode
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Re: HTML5 support

[Lee]

On 12/24/17, Hartmut Figge  wrote:
> Lee:
>
>>There's supposed to be a start menu option for starting seamonkey in
>>safe mode -- I don't have it either :(
>
> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171224.png

Right.  But didn't there used to be a windows start menu option for
starting seamonkey in safe mode?  I have just 3 items under seamonkey
in the start menu:
  Profile Manager
  SeaMonkey
  SeaMonkey Mail

Lee
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Re: HTML5 support

[Hartmut Figge]

Lee:

>There's supposed to be a start menu option for starting seamonkey in
>safe mode -- I don't have it either :(

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171224.png

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Re: HTML5 support

[Lee]

On 12/23/17, Ken Rudolph  wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>>
>>> No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show.  I
>>> get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support.
>>> I've checked three other browsers:  Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all
>>> of them play Netflix sources with no problems.  Only SeaMonkey has
>>> this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's
>>> Netflix site period.  Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I
>>> need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem.  I'm
>>> just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1  (Build
>>> identifier:  20170619162041)
>>
>> OK, try this:
>>
>> 1) Close all browser windows except a blank one.
>>
>> 2) Clear cache and cookies (options at Edit | Preferences | Privacy &
>> Security | Private Data).
>>
>> 3) Load a Netflix page and see if you can play it.
>>
>> If the answer's yes, something was bad in your cache or cookies and it's
>> gone now. Problem solved.
>>
>> If the answer's no, then try this:
>>
>> 4) Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, disabling all add-ons. If that solves
>> it, one of your add-ons is the guilty party. (If that doesn't solve it,
>> report back.)
>>
>> 5) Assuming Safe Mode solved the problem, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode
>> again, disabling all but two add-ons. If the problem reappears, one of
>> those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. If the
>> problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this
>> step with two more. ... When you come to the point where you have two
>> suspects, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, enabling only one of those two
>> suspects. That will tell you which is guilty.
>>
>
> I'm unable to make any of this work, other than clearing cache and
> cookies (which didn't solve the Netflix problem).  Then, I don't know
> how to open and run SM in safe mode to begin with (I'm assuming you
> don't mean open Windows 10 in safe mode, which I could do by
> shift+restart...but would rather not.)

There's supposed to be a start menu option for starting seamonkey in
safe mode -- I don't have it either :(

> Another problem I've just discovered is that I seem to have two versions
> of SM on this computer.  One is in "Program Files" which is SeaMonkey
> 2.49.1.  When I open this the release notes say in big red letters:
> "Automatic upgrades from previous versions are, for most configurations,
> disabled for this release. Please download the full installer from the
> downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.49.1 manually over the
> previous version."
>
> The other is in "Program Files (x86)" which loads SM 2.46.  Both seem to
> use the same profile.  Also, both do not play Netflix videos even after
> clearing cache and cookies.

You should fix that someday.
download the seamonkey installer
uninstall seamonkey
you'll probably have to use file explorer to delete the other version
of seamonkey
reboot
install seamonkey

> Now that I think about it, for a while now I've had other video problems
> in SM, and have gotten used to saving the link, opening Chrome, and
> watching them there.
>
> At this point, I think that I'm too confused to try to solve the Netflix
>   problem.

for whatever it's worth, I had the same problem.  Clear cache, clear
cookies, disable all addons ... still wouldn't play.  Create a new
profile & it played fine

>  The version of SM 2.49.1 that I have, which opens when I
> click on the icon on my desktop, is working fine for everything else.
> And I'm not sure I want to screw around with downloading the full
> installer again and manually re-installing over the previous version.
> I'm not even sure which version to manually install over.

Don't install over an existing installation.

"Program Files" is for 64 bit programs
"Program Files (x86)"  is for 32 bit programs
There's a good chance you've got some registry entries pointing to the
wrong place, so I'd say that removing both the "Program Files" and
"Program Files (x86)" versions of seamonkey before installing it again
would be a good idea

Regards,
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Re: HTML5 support

[David C. Mores via support-seamonkey]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from 
the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't 
play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix 
system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No add-ons from 
Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?

--
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I'm a Netflix subscriber and I normally remain logged in on the Netflix 
site.  When I clicked on the link, I got a page for "The Crown" but no 
arrow to start the video.  However, at the top of the page there was a 
banner with "Netflix" on left and "Sign Out" on the right.  After 
signing out, I got a page with an arrow link to start the video which 
did in fact play it.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

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Re: HTML5 support

[WaltS48]

On 12/23/17 11:19 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/23/17 10:51 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Jonathan N. Little:







As far as I can see Ken hasn't used safe-mode or the better and easier
approach of using a fresh profile. Back to my book.


No go for me with 2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


WFM using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS




Hmmm. Do you have Silverlight installed? I did the hacky install with 
an earlier version of Ubuntu to get Netflix to work but not on this 
install.




No plugins except Flash installed and set to "Ask to Activate". The 
video doesn't use it.


The only extension installed is AdBlock Plus and it is enabled.

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Re: HTML5 support

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Another problem I've just discovered is that I seem to have two versions 
of SM on this computer.  One is in "Program Files" which is SeaMonkey 
2.49.1.  When I open this the release notes say in big red letters: 
"Automatic upgrades from previous versions are, for most configurations, 
disabled for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.49.1 manually over the 
previous version."


The other is in "Program Files (x86)" which loads SM 2.46.  Both seem to 
use the same profile.  Also, both do not play Netflix videos even after 
clearing cache and cookies.


That may or may not be the cause of this particular problem, but it's 
certainly not going to help and will likely cause confusion in future if 
nothing else. It looks like you had a 32-bit build of SeaMonkey 2.46 and 
have installed a 64-bit build of 2.49.1. I don't think there are 
official 64-bit Windows builds of SeaMonkey, so that's presumably one of 
the 3rd-party builds which were going around for a while.


At this point, the safest thing to do is probably:
* Make a backup of your profile (you can find out where it is from Help 
> Troubleshooting Information where "Profile Folder" is about half way 
down the first table). You can just copy the entire directory to 
somewhere outside the profiles folder, ideally to a removable disk (e.g. 
a USB stick).

* Download SeaMonkey 2.49.1 from .
* Make sure you've got some way of posting here without using SeaMonkey, 
just in case you have problems during the uninstall/install.

* Uninstall both versions of SeaMonkey.
  - You might find that only one version appears in Windows' "Programs 
and Features" control panel, in which case it should be possible to 
start the installer for the other version by running  or the equivalent under Files (x86)>.
  - Post back if you have problems uninstalling either version. I'm not 
sure whether having two versions installed might break the uninstall 
process for one or the other.

* Install the 2.49.1 version downloaded above.

The newly installed version should continue using the same profile. 
However, there could be a problem with that profile, particularly if 
you've ever started 2.46 after that profile had been used with 2.49.1. 
Using an older version of SeaMonkey with a profile after that profile 
has been used with a newer version can corrupt parts of the profile 
depending what changed between those versions, so going back in versions 
is best avoided. You may not have have intentionally done that in this 
case, but might have accidentally started 2.46 at some point.


So, if there are still problems after uninstalling the old versions and 
reinstalling the latest, a couple of things to try to help narrow down 
the problem:
* Start SeaMonkey in Safe Mode as others have suggested; if you still 
don't have the start menu entry, you also start SeaMonkey normally and 
then go to Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled
* Create a new profile and try using that: Tools > Switch Profile > 
Manage Profiles > Create Profile. Your old profile will still be there 
(unless you choose to delete it) and you can switch back to it later via 
Tools > Switch Profile.


If a new profile fixes the problem, where to go from there depends 
whether there's any data you need to keep from the old profile.



For what it's worth, the link you originally posted works for me with:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Extensions installed are:
* ChatZilla
* DOM Inspector
* gContactSync
* Lightning
* Live HTTP headers
* NoScript
Since I use NoScript, that has to be set to not block various NetFlix 
scripts. Apart from that I don't expect any of those extensions to have 
any effect.


Enabled plugins are:
* VLC Web Plugin
* Adobe Acrobat
* Java(TM) Playform SE 8
I don't have the Silverlight plugin, but the video worked without it. 
It's possible that having VLC installed has some effect on being able to 
play the video.


SeaMonkey supports HTML5; there's no need for an extension or plugin for 
that.


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Re: HTML5 support

[Ray_Net]

Ken Rudolph wrote on 24-12-17 08:45:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


[snip]
[snip]

Windows button (calls the Start menu), All Programs, SeaMonkey should 
give you four options:


Profile Manager
SeaMonkey (Safe Mode)
SeaMonkey Mail
SeaMonkey


Except that there are only 3 options when I do this:  (Safe Mode) just 
isn't there in the Start menu.  The other three are there, and they 
point to 2.49.1.  I'm running Win-10 the latest updated version. Maybe 
Netflix videos in SeaMonkey is just beyond my capabilities.  I can 
live with the other browsers that I have. Anyway, thank you for trying.



Same for me "SeaMonkey (Safe Mode" did not exist.
But I think that the problem is because
I have seamonkey directory into C:\Program Files (x86)
and I don't have a seamonkey directory into C:\Program Files

Ken have both of them, so it looks that he installed the 32bits version 
and also the 64bits version (if this version exist - if it did not exist 
C:\Program Files must be free of seamonkey stuff.).

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Re: HTML5 support

[Yamo']

Hi,

Ken Rudolph a écrit le 23/12/2017 à 21:20 :
> https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH
> 
> How can I get SM to play this link?


Work for me

On Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


May you start from a clean profile.

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Re: HTML5 support

[Ken Rudolph]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


[snip]
[snip]

Windows button (calls the Start menu), All Programs, SeaMonkey should 
give you four options:


Profile Manager
SeaMonkey (Safe Mode)
SeaMonkey Mail
SeaMonkey


Except that there are only 3 options when I do this:  (Safe Mode) just 
isn't there in the Start menu.  The other three are there, and they 
point to 2.49.1.  I'm running Win-10 the latest updated version. Maybe 
Netflix videos in SeaMonkey is just beyond my capabilities.  I can live 
with the other browsers that I have.  Anyway, thank you for trying.


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Re: HTML5 support

[chokito]

On my Windows 7 64-bit works Netflix only with no Seamonkey in the user agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 works 
fine.
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Re: HTML5 support

[Hartmut Figge]

Jonathan N. Little:
>WaltS48 wrote:

>> WFM using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
>> Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
>
>Hmmm. Do you have Silverlight installed? I did the hacky install with an 
>earlier version of Ubuntu to get Netflix to work but not on this install.

I've now created a fresh profile. So no add-ons. Only Plugin is Flash.
Set to Never Activate. As it should be. :)

https://www.netflix.com/de-en/title/80025678 works just fine. On the
other hand, I do not use such an ancient SM like you do. *fg*

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Re: HTML5 support

[Jonathan N. Little]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/23/17 10:51 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Jonathan N. Little:







As far as I can see Ken hasn't used safe-mode or the better and easier
approach of using a fresh profile. Back to my book.


No go for me with 2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


WFM using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS




Hmmm. Do you have Silverlight installed? I did the hacky install with an 
earlier version of Ubuntu to get Netflix to work but not on this install.


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Re: HTML5 support

[WaltS48]

On 12/23/17 10:51 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Jonathan N. Little:

[https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH] 




I have to add:

general.useragent.override.netflix.com
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0


With override it plays without any issue.


Well, well, well. I'm not even using FF advertisement and it works 
fine. *g*
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017122403 
SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h


As far as I can see Ken hasn't used safe-mode or the better and easier
approach of using a fresh profile. Back to my book.


No go for me with 2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


WFM using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS


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Re: HTML5 support

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ken Rudolph wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


[snip]


If the answer's no, then try this:

4) Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, disabling all add-ons. If that 
solves it, one of your add-ons is the guilty party. (If that doesn't 
solve it, report back.)


5) Assuming Safe Mode solved the problem, restart SeaMonkey in Safe 
Mode again, disabling all but two add-ons. If the problem reappears, 
one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. 
If the problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, 
repeat this step with two more. ... When you come to the point where 
you have two suspects, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, enabling only 
one of those two suspects. That will tell you which is guilty.


I'm unable to make any of this work, other than clearing cache and 
cookies (which didn't solve the Netflix problem).  Then, I don't know 
how to open and run SM in safe mode to begin with (I'm assuming you 
don't mean open Windows 10 in safe mode, which I could do by 
shift+restart...but would rather not.)


Another problem I've just discovered is that I seem to have two
versions of SM on this computer. One is in "Program Files" which is
SeaMonkey 2.49.1. When I open this the release notes say in big red
letters: "Automatic upgrades from previous versions are, for most
configurations, disabled for this release. Please download the full
installer from the downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.49.1
manually over the previous version."

The other is in "Program Files (x86)" which loads SM 2.46. Both seem
to use the same profile. Also, both do not play Netflix videos even
after clearing cache and cookies.

[snip]

Windows button (calls the Start menu), All Programs, SeaMonkey should 
give you four options:


Profile Manager
SeaMonkey (Safe Mode)
SeaMonkey Mail
SeaMonkey

Given what you've said about having two versions installed, it's 
probably best if you first right-click "SeaMonkey (Safe Mode)" and 
choose "Properties" to see which one it's pointing to. The "Target" 
field will give you the full path to the executable program. Mine is in 
the default folder, \Program Files (x86)\.


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Re: HTML5 support

[Jonathan N. Little]

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Jonathan N. Little:

[https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH]


I have to add:

general.useragent.override.netflix.com
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

With override it plays without any issue.


Well, well, well. I'm not even using FF advertisement and it works fine. *g*
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017122403 SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h

As far as I can see Ken hasn't used safe-mode or the better and easier
approach of using a fresh profile. Back to my book.


No go for me with 2.49.1 on Ubuntu 16.04.3

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


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Re: HTML5 support

[Hartmut Figge]

Jonathan N. Little:

[https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH]

>I have to add:
>
>general.useragent.override.netflix.com
>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
>
>With override it plays without any issue.

Well, well, well. I'm not even using FF advertisement and it works fine. *g*
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017122403 SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h

As far as I can see Ken hasn't used safe-mode or the better and easier
approach of using a fresh profile. Back to my book.

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Re: HTML5 support

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:


No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show.  I
get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support.
I've checked three other browsers:  Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all
of them play Netflix sources with no problems.  Only SeaMonkey has
this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's
Netflix site period.  Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I
need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem.  I'm
just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1  (Build
identifier:  20170619162041)


OK, try this:

1) Close all browser windows except a blank one.

2) Clear cache and cookies (options at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & 
Security | Private Data).


3) Load a Netflix page and see if you can play it.

If the answer's yes, something was bad in your cache or cookies and 
it's gone now. Problem solved.


If the answer's no, then try this:

4) Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, disabling all add-ons. If that 
solves it, one of your add-ons is the guilty party. (If that doesn't 
solve it, report back.)


5) Assuming Safe Mode solved the problem, restart SeaMonkey in Safe 
Mode again, disabling all but two add-ons. If the problem reappears, 
one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. 
If the problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, 
repeat this step with two more. ... When you come to the point where 
you have two suspects, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, enabling only 
one of those two suspects. That will tell you which is guilty.




I'm unable to make any of this work, other than clearing cache and 
cookies (which didn't solve the Netflix problem).  Then, I don't know 
how to open and run SM in safe mode to begin with (I'm assuming you 
don't mean open Windows 10 in safe mode, which I could do by 
shift+restart...but would rather not.)


Another problem I've just discovered is that I seem to have two versions 
of SM on this computer.  One is in "Program Files" which is SeaMonkey 
2.49.1.  When I open this the release notes say in big red letters: 
"Automatic upgrades from previous versions are, for most configurations, 
disabled for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.49.1 manually over the 
previous version."


The other is in "Program Files (x86)" which loads SM 2.46.  Both seem to 
use the same profile.  Also, both do not play Netflix videos even after 
clearing cache and cookies.


Now that I think about it, for a while now I've had other video problems 
in SM, and have gotten used to saving the link, opening Chrome, and 
watching them there.


At this point, I think that I'm too confused to try to solve the Netflix 
  problem.  The version of SM 2.49.1 that I have, which opens when I 
click on the icon on my desktop, is working fine for everything else. 
And I'm not sure I want to screw around with downloading the full 
installer again and manually re-installing over the previous version. 
I'm not even sure which version to manually install over.




Without modification standard UA

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


gets me nowhere.
"Microsoft Silverlight is required to play this title.
Install the Microsoft Silverlight Plug-in."

But I have Silverlight Plug-In 5.1.50907.0

I have to add:

general.useragent.override.netflix.com
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

With override it plays without any issue.


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Re: HTML5 support

[Ken Rudolph]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:


No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show.  I
get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support.
I've checked three other browsers:  Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all
of them play Netflix sources with no problems.  Only SeaMonkey has
this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's
Netflix site period.  Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I
need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem.  I'm
just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1  (Build
identifier:  20170619162041)


OK, try this:

1) Close all browser windows except a blank one.

2) Clear cache and cookies (options at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & 
Security | Private Data).


3) Load a Netflix page and see if you can play it.

If the answer's yes, something was bad in your cache or cookies and it's 
gone now. Problem solved.


If the answer's no, then try this:

4) Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, disabling all add-ons. If that solves 
it, one of your add-ons is the guilty party. (If that doesn't solve it, 
report back.)


5) Assuming Safe Mode solved the problem, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode 
again, disabling all but two add-ons. If the problem reappears, one of 
those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. If the 
problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this 
step with two more. ... When you come to the point where you have two 
suspects, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, enabling only one of those two 
suspects. That will tell you which is guilty.




I'm unable to make any of this work, other than clearing cache and 
cookies (which didn't solve the Netflix problem).  Then, I don't know 
how to open and run SM in safe mode to begin with (I'm assuming you 
don't mean open Windows 10 in safe mode, which I could do by 
shift+restart...but would rather not.)


Another problem I've just discovered is that I seem to have two versions 
of SM on this computer.  One is in "Program Files" which is SeaMonkey 
2.49.1.  When I open this the release notes say in big red letters: 
"Automatic upgrades from previous versions are, for most configurations, 
disabled for this release. Please download the full installer from the 
downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.49.1 manually over the 
previous version."


The other is in "Program Files (x86)" which loads SM 2.46.  Both seem to 
use the same profile.  Also, both do not play Netflix videos even after 
clearing cache and cookies.


Now that I think about it, for a while now I've had other video problems 
in SM, and have gotten used to saving the link, opening Chrome, and 
watching them there.


At this point, I think that I'm too confused to try to solve the Netflix 
 problem.  The version of SM 2.49.1 that I have, which opens when I 
click on the icon on my desktop, is working fine for everything else. 
And I'm not sure I want to screw around with downloading the full 
installer again and manually re-installing over the previous version. 
I'm not even sure which version to manually install over.


 But thank you for trying to help me!

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Re: HTML5 support

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ken Rudolph wrote:


No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show.  I
get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support.
I've checked three other browsers:  Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all
of them play Netflix sources with no problems.  Only SeaMonkey has
this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's
Netflix site period.  Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I
need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem.  I'm
just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1  (Build
identifier:  20170619162041)


OK, try this:

1) Close all browser windows except a blank one.

2) Clear cache and cookies (options at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & 
Security | Private Data).


3) Load a Netflix page and see if you can play it.

If the answer's yes, something was bad in your cache or cookies and it's 
gone now. Problem solved.


If the answer's no, then try this:

4) Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, disabling all add-ons. If that solves 
it, one of your add-ons is the guilty party. (If that doesn't solve it, 
report back.)


5) Assuming Safe Mode solved the problem, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode 
again, disabling all but two add-ons. If the problem reappears, one of 
those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. If the 
problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this 
step with two more. ... When you come to the point where you have two 
suspects, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, enabling only one of those two 
suspects. That will tell you which is guilty.


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Re: HTML5 support

[Ray_Net]

Ken Rudolph wrote on 23-12-17 22:34:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote on 23-12-17 21:20:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message 
from the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it 
doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about 
Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No 
add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link 
it plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link 
in e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way 
to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that 
would be useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?

Work for me nothing special installed. Win10 pro.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Maybe I need an add-on for HTML5 for SeaMonkey; but I'm not sure what 
that would be.  When I go to add-ons for SeaMonkey there is an HTML5 
Video Everywhere! by lejenome that I can add to Firefox (not 
SeaMonkey).  However when I try to add it using SeaMonkey I get the 
message that "The add-on downloaded from addons.mozilla.org could not 
be installed because it appears to be corrupt."  And my version of 
Firefox already seems to have an HTML5 player.  And nothing from the 
Add-ons extensions for HTML5 seem to be for SM 2.49.1


I did not have this add-on installed. However I have installed an add-on 
related to HTML5 - this is :"True Full Screen in SeaMonkey"

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Re: HTML5 support

[Ken Rudolph]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show.  I get 
sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support.  I've 
checked three other browsers:  Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all of them 
play Netflix sources with no problems.  Only SeaMonkey has this problem. 
 So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's Netflix site 
period.  Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I need to have? 
Other responders seem to not have this problem.  I'm just not sure 
what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1  (Build identifier:  20170619162041)


--
Ken


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from 
the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't 
play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix 
system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No add-ons from 
Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?

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Re: HTML5 support

[WaltS48]

On 12/23/17 5:55 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message 
from the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it 
doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about 
Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No 
add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link 
it plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link 
in e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way 
to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that 
would be useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?


Works for me in SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows 10 with UA Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Looks like you need to fix the UA for your SeaMonkey.


I changed the UA to:   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


And that still didn't change anything.  I still get sent to a page: 
"Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight"  etc.



Tried a new profile or safe mode?

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Re: HTML5 support

[Ken Rudolph]

WaltS48 wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message 
from the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it 
doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about 
Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No 
add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?


Works for me in SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows 10 with UA Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Looks like you need to fix the UA for your SeaMonkey.


I changed the UA to:   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


And that still didn't change anything.  I still get sent to a page: 
"Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight"  etc.


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Re: HTML5 support

[WaltS48]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message 
from the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it 
doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about 
Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No 
add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?


Works for me in SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows 10 with UA Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Looks like you need to fix the UA for your SeaMonkey.
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Re: HTML5 support

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from 
the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't 
play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix 
system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No add-ons from 
Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?


Your link redirected to .

WFM, SM 2.49.1, Win7 Pro SP1.

Tried clearing cache and cookies, disabling Flash, Shockwave, and VLC 
plugin, and restarting SM, and it still worked fine.


Of course, I do have the standard user agent string: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1. Maybe that's it?


Also, I'm not a Netflix subscriber, so no login/password were supplied.

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Re: HTML5 support

[Mr. Ed]

On 12/23/17 3:20 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:
> Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent:
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3
>
> Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the
> Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the
> SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements
> for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to
> work to rectify this problem.
>
> When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays
> fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to
> the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to
> go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of
> course.
>
> Anyway, the e-mail link in question:
>
> https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH
>
>
> How can I get SM to play this link?
>
> -- 
> Ken Rudolph

No problem playing trailer here with:

Last updated: Sat Dec 23 2017 16:37:26 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Extensions (enabled: 11)
* Autofill Forms 1.0.3 (http://firefox.add0n.com/autofill-forms.html)
* Display Mail User Agent 1.7.0 
(http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/dispmua.html)
* Emoji Menu Converted 2.0 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/emoji-menu/?src=api)
* Enigmail 1.9.9 (http://www.enigmail.net/)
* FireFTP 2.0.31 (http://fireftp.net)
* Password Exporter Converted 1.3.4 (http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* Quote Colors 0.3.1-let-fixed (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)
* Reply to All as Cc 1.4 (http://www.clear-code.com/)
* Saved Password Editor 2.10.3 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/)
* ShowIP 2.7.7.1-signed.1-signed (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)

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Re: HTML5 support

[Ken Rudolph]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote on 23-12-17 21:20:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message 
from the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it 
doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about 
Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No 
add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?

Work for me nothing special installed. Win10 pro.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Maybe I need an add-on for HTML5 for SeaMonkey; but I'm not sure what 
that would be.  When I go to add-ons for SeaMonkey there is an HTML5 
Video Everywhere! by lejenome that I can add to Firefox (not SeaMonkey). 
 However when I try to add it using SeaMonkey I get the message that 
"The add-on downloaded from addons.mozilla.org could not be installed 
because it appears to be corrupt."  And my version of Firefox already 
seems to have an HTML5 player.  And nothing from the Add-ons extensions 
for HTML5 seem to be for SM 2.49.1


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Re: HTML5 support

[Ray_Net]

Ken Rudolph wrote on 23-12-17 21:20:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message 
from the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it 
doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about 
Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No 
add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?

Work for me nothing special installed. Win10 pro.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

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Re: HTML5 support

[Larry S.]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from 
the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't 
play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix 
system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No add-ons from 
Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?

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Ken Rudolph
Works fine here, on Windows 7 with the Silverlight Plug-In. Never have a 
problem with HTML5.

Larry S.
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Re: HTML5 support

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Ken Rudolph wrote:
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3


Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from 
the Crown.  However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't 
play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix 
system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight.  No add-ons from 
Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem.


When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it 
plays fine on all 3.  But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in 
e-mail goes to the SM browser.  Maybe if there were an easy way to set 
links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be 
useful...but not optimal, of course.


Anyway, the e-mail link in question:

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH 



How can I get SM to play this link?

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Ken Rudolph


It works for me.  I use MacOS, not Windows.  Not sure if that is 
significant.


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