Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2

2009-03-27 Thread HeavyDuty

NoOp wrote:

On 03/24/2009 05:50 PM, HeavyDuty wrote:

SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3

Just curious,
I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a 
minute of sending but no completion, I got an error 
message that said the smtp server replied error 4.1.2, and 
recipient domain not found.


Actually it was probably a 450 error with a 4.1.2 Enhanced Mail System
Status (for humans) of what is going on.

Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped 
nor missent.
I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The 
support guy said he had no idea and besides it was an error 
code generated by my e-mail client, not the isp.


He should have figured out that it was a 450 error:

450 Requested mail action not taken: mailbox unavailable

So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it 
from my isp and patch it into the error window?


Your ISP generated the message.
After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the 
compose window and, after some hesitation, it went through.


That is because '4' error codes are Persistent Transient Failures. The
receiving end may have experienced a hiccup, temporary service
disruption etc.

I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. 
I /think/ it comes from an internet code protocol standard, 
but I could not find it. Thanks.


This might help:
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/05/21/smtp-replies.html
and particularly:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1893.txt

4.X.X   Persistent Transient Failure

   A persistent transient failure is one in which the message as
   sent is valid, but some temporary event prevents the successful
   sending of the message.  Sending in the future may be successful.

X.1.X   Addressing Status

  The address status reports on the originator or destination
  address.  It may include address syntax or validity.  These
  errors can generally be corrected by the sender and retried.

X.1.2   Bad destination system address

  The destination system specified in the address does not
  exist or is incapable of accepting mail.  For Internet mail
  names, this means the address portion to the right of the
  @ is invalid for mail.  This codes is only useful for
  permanent failures.


Thanks to all for the information and explanation.
I'll pass this along to my ISP tech support BUT, it will be 
a waste of time. The ones I talk to seem to have almost no 
technical training or knowledge and, even though Peter 
suggests speaking to a higher-up, it is impossible. I've 
tried this on numerous occasions over many years. Of note, 
the tech support for this company is in Columbus, Ohio, not 
exported off shore.

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Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2

2009-03-25 Thread Mark Hansen
On 03/24/09 22:17, Gregory Hicks wrote:
 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:16:05 -0400
 From: Moz Champion (Dan) moz.champ...@sympatico.ca
 Subject: Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 
 HeavyDuty wrote:
  Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
  HeavyDuty wrote:
  SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3
 
  Just curious,
  I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of 
  sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the 
  smtp server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not 
 found.
  Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor 
 missent.
  I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy 
 
 It is a sendmail error (from the SMTP process on the ISP server,
 watches port 24, 953, and one other - if configured for it.)  Means
 domain not found and is a permanent error.
 
 The delay you mentioned was caused by sendmail trying to resolve
 whatever domain you were sending to.  The length of the delay was
 caused by whatever sendmail is using to resolve domains.

... and the sendmail in this case is the service provided by the ISP.
So go back to your ISP and show this to the support tech. However,
I would guess that the problem will be temporary (yes, even though
the error says it's permanent - that just means it will be a problem
until they correct it).
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Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2

2009-03-25 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Mark Hansen wrote:


... and the sendmail in this case is the service provided by the ISP.
So go back to your ISP and show this to the support tech. 


then their response will be well, we don't support 
SeaMonkey! If that is the case, then instist on 
talking to someone higher up the ladder.


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Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2

2009-03-24 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)

HeavyDuty wrote:

SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3

Just curious,
I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of 
sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the smtp 
server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not found.

Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor missent.
I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy said 
he had no idea and besides it was an error code generated by my e-mail 
client, not the isp.
So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it from my isp 
and patch it into the error window?


After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the compose 
window and, after some hesitation, it went through.


I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. I /think/ it 
comes from an internet code protocol standard, but I could not find it. 
Thanks.



Hmmm, the entries I find for error 4.1.2 are linux or gcc (compiler) 
related. You sure about that number?

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Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2

2009-03-24 Thread HeavyDuty

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3

Just curious,
I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of 
sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the smtp 
server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not found.

Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor missent.
I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy said 
he had no idea and besides it was an error code generated by my e-mail 
client, not the isp.
So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it from my 
isp and patch it into the error window?


After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the compose 
window and, after some hesitation, it went through.


I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. I /think/ 
it comes from an internet code protocol standard, but I could not find 
it. Thanks.



Hmmm, the entries I find for error 4.1.2 are linux or gcc (compiler) 
related. You sure about that number?

Yes about the numbers.
Where did you find that definition/coe listing?
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Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2

2009-03-24 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)

HeavyDuty wrote:

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3

Just curious,
I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of 
sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the 
smtp server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not found.

Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor missent.
I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy 
said he had no idea and besides it was an error code generated by my 
e-mail client, not the isp.
So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it from my 
isp and patch it into the error window?


After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the compose 
window and, after some hesitation, it went through.


I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. I /think/ 
it comes from an internet code protocol standard, but I could not 
find it. Thanks.



Hmmm, the entries I find for error 4.1.2 are linux or gcc (compiler) 
related. You sure about that number?

Yes about the numbers.
Where did you find that definition/coe listing?


google is your friend

do a search on error 4.1.2
or SeaMonkey 4.1.2
or SeaMonkey error 4.1.2

I was unable to uncover any references aside from specific linux or gcc 
compiler ones - or other programs

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Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2

2009-03-24 Thread Gregory Hicks

 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:16:05 -0400
 From: Moz Champion (Dan) moz.champ...@sympatico.ca
 Subject: Re: Just curious about error 4.1.2
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 
 HeavyDuty wrote:
  Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
  HeavyDuty wrote:
  SM 1.1.15, WinXP Pro SP3
 
  Just curious,
  I was sending a simple very small text e-mail. After a minute of 
  sending but no completion, I got an error message that said the 
  smtp server replied error 4.1.2, and recipient domain not 
found.
  Since I was replying to a known sender, I neither mistyped nor 
missent.
  I called my ISP to find out what error 4.1.2 was. The support guy 

It is a sendmail error (from the SMTP process on the ISP server,
watches port 24, 953, and one other - if configured for it.)  Means
domain not found and is a permanent error.

The delay you mentioned was caused by sendmail trying to resolve
whatever domain you were sending to.  The length of the delay was
caused by whatever sendmail is using to resolve domains.

  said he had no idea and besides it was an error code generated by 
my 
  e-mail client, not the isp.
  So, did seamonkey generate this error code or did it get it from 
my 
  isp and patch it into the error window?
 
  After closing the error window, I just hit send again in the 
compose 
  window and, after some hesitation, it went through.
 
  I am still wanting know what error code 4.1.2 is all about. I 
/think/ 
  it comes from an internet code protocol standard, but I could not 
  find it. Thanks.
 
 
  Hmmm, the entries I find for error 4.1.2 are linux or gcc 
(compiler) 
  related. You sure about that number?
  Yes about the numbers.
  Where did you find that definition/coe listing?
 
 google is your friend
 
 do a search on error 4.1.2
 or SeaMonkey 4.1.2
 or SeaMonkey error 4.1.2
 
 I was unable to uncover any references aside from specific linux or 
gcc 
 compiler ones - or other programs
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