Re: Pre-upgrade-to-seamonkey problems

2008-12-28 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

On 12/25, Jeff wrote:



.


I no longer have any idea what the folder structure of the affected
branches is supposed to be. I don't know how Mozilla stores the logical
folder structure.


FYI. The  logical folder structure for Mozilla (SeaMonkey) email
folders is:
The email folders for a particular profile and mail site are
stored in the directory pointed at by the 'Local directory'
entry on the panel reached by
Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings > "mail site" >
Server-settings.
That directory will contain various types of files and subdirectories.
The most relevant of these will be:
 - Those with names of the email folders  e.g. abc or Inbox,
   which hold the messages in the folder concatenated, and
   in a special format.
 - Their corresponding descriptors  abc.msf,   Inbox.msf
 - If 'abc' is not just a simple email folder, but has subfolders,
   then there will be a subdirectory/subfolder  named abc.sbd
   The subdirectory abc.sbd will be structures like the main
   directory. i.e. subfolder file e.g. xyz, its' descriptor
   xyz.msf, and if any xyz under abc has further subfolders
   then xyz.sbd  et.c

I hope that this helps you in exploring your saved email files.
Remember you don't have to do it all at once.  You can clean up
your folders a few at a time. i.e. delete their .msf files,
then start SM and click on those folders to have SM rebuild the
.msf files, then compress the individual folders (select folder,
then right click will present a choice to compress the folder)
Just make sure to keep backups of the mail directory as you
proceed. But you seem to be a careful fellow anyway.
--
Rostyk


Also since the extraneous sent is a subfolder of Local folder sent
there will now be a subdirectory  sent.sbd whose contents are files
named sent and sent.msf
Let's, for clarity, change the name of the subfolder to  xyz!
If xyz is a subfolder of abc in Local-folders then we will have
the structure
Local-folders containing files abc, abc.msf and subdirectory abc.sbd.
subdirectory abc.sbd will contain files xyz and xyz.msf
And so on, if there is any further structure.
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Re: Pre-upgrade-to-seamonkey problems

2008-12-27 Thread Jeff



Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on 12/26/08 00:43:

Yeah, I've known about those and tried that solution for a number of 
problems in the past. Sometimes it helped, and sometimes not.
For this particular problem, it hasn't helped. I have tried that 
solution for this problem twice in the past, and I didn't work either 
time. :-( 



when you delete, you're doing so with the program closed, right?


Yes, correct.

For mass deletion of 1700+ .msf files, use of the command line is 
essential...



why? I use windows search function.  When its found them all, then I 
select them all and delete them all.


True... I'm still more used to DOS for many things. I didn't switch 
until a while after XP came around.

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Re: Pre-upgrade-to-seamonkey problems

2008-12-25 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Jeff wrote:


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on 12/25/08 02:10:


Jeff wrote:

1) Will seamonkey run under XP SP1? 


yes


That's a relief! :) At least for the interim.


2) I lost a couple of hundred emails contained in a few dozen folders.
You click on the main folder that is supposed to contain those
subfolders, and Mozilla basically gets lost in a "black hole." In
otherwords, CPU useage goes to 100%, then literally nothing happens, and
you have to shut down the program, then get it restarted to get it
working again. This is repeatable. 


close Mozilla/SeaMonkey.  Look in the Mail section of of the Moz/SM 
Profile.  There, you will see two types of files, for example inbox 
[without an extension], and inbox.msf.  The files without the 
extension contains your messages.  The *.msf files are indexing files. 
With Moz/SM closed, delete all those *.msf files. Restart Moz/SM.  Did 
this fix everything?  After you get the program going, click on File, 
Compact Folders.


Yeah, I've known about those and tried that solution for a number of 
problems in the past. Sometimes it helped, and sometimes not.
For this particular problem, it hasn't helped. I have tried that 
solution for this problem twice in the past, and I didn't work either 
time. :-( 


when you delete, you're doing so with the program 
closed, right?


For mass deletion of 1700+ .msf files, use of the command line is 
essential...


why? I use windows search function.  When its found 
them all, then I select them all and delete them all.


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Re: Pre-upgrade-to-seamonkey problems

2008-12-25 Thread Jeff


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote on 12/25/08 02:10:


Jeff wrote:

1) Will seamonkey run under XP SP1? 


yes


That's a relief! :) At least for the interim.


2) I lost a couple of hundred emails contained in a few dozen folders.
You click on the main folder that is supposed to contain those
subfolders, and Mozilla basically gets lost in a "black hole." In
otherwords, CPU useage goes to 100%, then literally nothing happens, and
you have to shut down the program, then get it restarted to get it
working again. This is repeatable. 


close Mozilla/SeaMonkey.  Look in the Mail section of of the Moz/SM 
Profile.  There, you will see two types of files, for example inbox 
[without an extension], and inbox.msf.  The files without the extension 
contains your messages.  The *.msf files are indexing files. With Moz/SM 
closed, delete all those *.msf files. Restart Moz/SM.  Did this fix 
everything?  After you get the program going, click on File, Compact 
Folders.


Yeah, I've known about those and tried that solution for a number of 
problems in the past. Sometimes it helped, and sometimes not.
For this particular problem, it hasn't helped. I have tried that 
solution for this problem twice in the past, and I didn't work either 
time. :-(
For mass deletion of 1700+ .msf files, use of the command line is 
essential...

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Re: Pre-upgrade-to-seamonkey problems

2008-12-25 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Jeff wrote:

1) Will seamonkey run under XP SP1? 


yes



2) I lost a couple of hundred emails contained in a few dozen folders.
You click on the main folder that is supposed to contain those
subfolders, and Mozilla basically gets lost in a "black hole." In
otherwords, CPU useage goes to 100%, then literally nothing happens, and
you have to shut down the program, then get it restarted to get it
working again. This is repeatable. 


close Mozilla/SeaMonkey.  Look in the Mail section of 
of the Moz/SM Profile.  There, you will see two types 
of files, for example inbox [without an extension], and 
inbox.msf.  The files without the extension contains 
your messages.  The *.msf files are indexing files. 
With Moz/SM closed, delete all those *.msf files. 
Restart Moz/SM.  Did this fix everything?  After you 
get the program going, click on File, Compact Folders.


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help Emails to me may become public


Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech 
Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, 
except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org 
newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned.


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http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3
http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm
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