Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-05 Thread NoOp
On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

 Open links meant to open a new window in:
 (x) The current tab/window
 [...]
 | 2
 | Divert all links according to
 browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
 [...]
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction


 Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
 the config editor
 (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
 is in a new small
 window instead of another tab. I can close it
 with Alt-F4 on the
 keyboard instead of using the mouse.

 Unless you change the first one
 (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
 restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
 allow more popups setting the second one
 (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
 of 2.

 Try such a configuration:

 browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
 use the back button to get to the source page.
 Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
 blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
 why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.

 
 
 You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
 http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 
 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/
  
 Barry

Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
posted yesterday:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-05 Thread WLS

NoOp wrote:

On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Tom S. wrote:


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0


OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
use the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.




You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Barry


Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
posted yesterday:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.


I get an empty window.

There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
Plus extension.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-05 Thread NoOp
On 10/05/2011 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
...
 You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
 http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/
 Barry

 Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
 posted yesterday:

 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
 If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
 advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
 
 I get an empty window.
 
 There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
 Plus extension.
 

Yeah, it's often blank:
http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php?ad_tag=Imageshack_Landing_pops2
I guess an advert only shows when someone pays for it :-) Either way,
it's a consistant aggravation.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)



NoOp wrote:


Imageshack is famous for this.


Well, what do you expect from a site that calls itself Images-hack ?!
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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:

 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

 Open links meant to open a new window in:
 (x) The current tab/window
 [...]
 | 2
 | Divert all links according to
 browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
 [...]
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction


 Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
 the config editor
 (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
 is in a new small
 window instead of another tab. I can close it
 with Alt-F4 on the
 keyboard instead of using the mouse.

 Unless you change the first one
 (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
 restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
 allow more popups setting the second one
 (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
 of 2.

 Try such a configuration:

 browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
 use the back button to get to the source page.
 Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
 blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
 why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.



 You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
 http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
 SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/
 Barry

 Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
 posted yesterday:

 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
 If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
 advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
 
 I get an empty window.
 
 There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
 Plus extension.
 

I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having
the image resized.  Then I added
http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php to my AdBlock Plus filters.
Now I only get the initial window resized.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-05 Thread WLS

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Tom S. wrote:


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0


OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
use the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.




You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Barry


Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
posted yesterday:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.


I get an empty window.

There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock
Plus extension.



I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having
the image resized.  Then I added
http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php  to my AdBlock Plus filters.
Now I only get the initial window resized.



That works quite well, since the Addblock Plus pop-up add-on doesn't 
work with SeaMonkey, and shows you probably don't need it for Firefox, 
even though it does block the pop-up.


ymmv

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-05 Thread NoOp
On 10/05/2011 10:23 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...

 Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
 posted yesterday:

 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
 If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
 advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
 
 I get an empty window.
 
 There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
 Plus extension.
 
 
 I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having
 the image resized.  Then I added
 http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php to my AdBlock Plus filters.
 Now I only get the initial window resized.
 

Did that and I still get the
http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php?ad_tag=Imageshack_Landing_pops2
Cleared cach, etc., no cookies, and even tried in a different window.
Adblock Plus is showing the http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php as
being blocked.
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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-04 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Tom S. wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to 
use the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a 
blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange 
why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.



You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 
SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/ 
Barry

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-04 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Tom S. wrote:


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0


OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
use the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.




You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
http://cdn.optmd.com/V2/89667/235160/index.html?g=Af8=r=www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 
SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156765@N03/6213203972/sizes/l/in/photostream/ 
Barry

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

JD wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?



Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

JD wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?



Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/



Disabled AdblockPlus, removed the tick from Block pop-up windows, and 
browsed to that link. No pop-ups occurred.


That is a site I am on everyday as part of my morning routine, and I've 
don't recall ever having a pop-up.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for a long
 while. I thought eventually someone else
 would bring it up and soon after, it would be
 fixed. Oh well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
 assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
 exclamation point shows on the bottom
 toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
 on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
 tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
 happens on almost all websites that use
 pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
 these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
 disables it, so it only shows the F
 button.)

 Is there anything I can change to prevent
 the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have Block
 unrequested popup windows checked under your
 Privacy and Security preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
 AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
 problem with unrequested popups.


 I double checked the preference setting, and it is
 checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
 if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
 popups. So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
 tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
 worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

 
 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 

Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are you seeing as a popup?


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/3/11 8:15 AM, Tom S. wrote:
 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for a long
 while. I thought eventually someone else
 would bring it up and soon after, it would be
 fixed. Oh well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
 assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
 exclamation point shows on the bottom
 toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
 on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
 tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
 happens on almost all websites that use
 pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
 these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
 disables it, so it only shows the F
 button.)

 Is there anything I can change to prevent
 the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have Block
 unrequested popup windows checked under your
 Privacy and Security preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
 AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
 problem with unrequested popups.


 I double checked the preference setting, and it is
 checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
 if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
 popups. So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
 tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
 worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

 
 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923 SeaMonkey/2.4

I got no popups at that site.  I did see a few artifacts similar to
tooltips when I hovered my cursor over certain links.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

 
 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
 

Everybody so far replying isn't seeing any popup(s), popup blocking
disabled, no flash block or adblocking type extensions enabled.

Try clearing cache and cookies and try the site again.

If still no luck, try creating a new profile and go back to the comics
site and see if you're getting a popup.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/2/11 8:34 AM, Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




Initially, popups (I almost typed poopups, which might be appropriate)
were separate Web pages launched by scripts in the page you wanted to
see.  Today, many popups are artifacts of CSS, Flash, or scripts
themselves (without launching anything).

If they are from Flash, I strongly recommend Flashblock at
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.  I normally run with this enabled.  It
allows me to display a Flash presentation by clicking an icon on the
page containing Flash.

If you know a page uses JavaScript for a popup, you can disable
JavaScript.  I have the PrefBar extension (from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/) installed
with a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling and disabling
JavaScript.  It's very, very handy.  I normally run with JavaScript
enabled.  However, when SeaMonkey seems to be operating strangely, I
disable JavaScript; then, SeaMonkey usually returns to normal behavior.

Similarly, I also have a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling
and disabling CSS.  While disabling CSS strips away almost all
formatting, a well-designed Web page should still have understandable
content.



As I mentioned, I have Flashblock. I also have 
PrefBar, but constantly needing to toggle 
JavaScript on  off seems a bit impractical.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:34:46 -0400, /Tom S./:


I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?


SM continues to stop automatic popups. I don't see
a change in the behavior.


When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?


You may stop interacting with the page but I don't
think that's much useful for you. Unfortunately
popups triggered from an interactive actions are
not blocked, otherwise it would block all
legitimate popups triggered explicitly by you.

You may however try to blocking somewhat more
(than the default setup) or most popups with the
Edit - Preferences: Browser / Link Behavior
settings:

Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
(x) Always divert windows into tabs

The label for the later is somewhat confusing
according the real preference documentation [1]:

| 0
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow.
| This includes:
| * All HTML links with target=_blank.
| * All JavaScript calls to window.open().

That should mean no new windows/tabs could be
created by web content - only explicitly by you
(e.g. using Ctrl+N or Ctrl+T).

Using the default value for the second option with
the changed value for the first would also block
more but no all of the popups (see what fits bets
for you):

Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
(x) Don't divert custom windows into tabs

The later really means:

| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
| the new window specifies how it should be
displayed.
| This includes:
| * All links with target=_blank.
| * JavaScript calls to window.open() without the
features
| parameter (3rd parameter).
| This does not include:
| * JavaScript calls to window.open() with the
features
| parameter (3rd parameter).

This will eliminate more of the new windows,
unless opened by scripts with features parameter.

[1]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction




Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the 
config editor (about:config). So, now when a 
pop-up opens, it is in a new small window instead 
of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the 
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

--- Original Message ---


JD wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP
SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for
a long while. I thought eventually
someone else would bring it up and
soon after, it would be fixed. Oh
well.

Why is it SM no longer stops
pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up,
I have assigned a pop sound and the
highlighted exclamation point shows
on the bottom toolbar. But then, if I
should click anywhere on the page,
the pop-up will open into a new tab,
instead of remaining suppressed.
This happens on almost all websites
that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they
will use Flash for these pop-ups, but
the Flashblock extension disables it,
so it only shows the F button.)

Is there anything I can change to
prevent the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have
Block unrequested popup windows checked
under your Privacy and Security
preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but
do have AdBlock Plus installed and
never have a problem with unrequested
popups.



I double checked the preference setting,
and it is checked. However, I see in the
disclaimer: Even if blocked, websites
may use other methods to show popups.
So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus,
which I tried a long time ago, but didn't
like the way it worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving
you popups?



Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/



Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are
you seeing as a popup?




It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
the page.

Here's a few more sites with the same action:

http://snopes.com/

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/

http://freethoughtblogs.com/

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Tom S. wrote:


JD wrote:


Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?


Sure. Here's one (comics site):
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/


Works fine for me, no popups. Tried disabling AdBlockPlus and reloading, 
still no popup. SM 2.3.3.


Tried clicking in blank areas of the page (not links), both with and 
without ABP, no popup.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Jay Garcia
On 03.10.2011 12:48, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP
 SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for
 a long while. I thought eventually
 someone else would bring it up and
 soon after, it would be fixed. Oh
 well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops
 pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up,
 I have assigned a pop sound and the
 highlighted exclamation point shows
 on the bottom toolbar. But then, if I
 should click anywhere on the page,
 the pop-up will open into a new tab,
 instead of remaining suppressed.
 This happens on almost all websites
 that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they
 will use Flash for these pop-ups, but
 the Flashblock extension disables it,
 so it only shows the F button.)

 Is there anything I can change to
 prevent the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have
 Block unrequested popup windows checked
 under your Privacy and Security
 preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but
 do have AdBlock Plus installed and
 never have a problem with unrequested
 popups.


 I double checked the preference setting,
 and it is checked. However, I see in the
 disclaimer: Even if blocked, websites
 may use other methods to show popups.
 So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus,
 which I tried a long time ago, but didn't
 like the way it worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving
 you popups?


 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/


 Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are
 you seeing as a popup?


 
 It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
 notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
 to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
 the page.
 
 Here's a few more sites with the same action:
 
 http://snopes.com/
 
 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/
 
 http://freethoughtblogs.com/
 

I get zero popups on those sites as well. Did you try creating a new
profile to see what happens?


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction


Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one (browser.link.open_newwindow) to 
something more restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively 
allow more popups setting the second one 
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value of 2.


Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

snip


It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
the page.

Here's a few more sites with the same action:

http://snopes.com/

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/

http://freethoughtblogs.com/



Only pop-up/redirect I had was when I hovered over the lower left item 
of the bar at the bottom of the philly.com link. With AdBlock Plus 
disabled it showed an ad for Verizon, with it enabled it still opened 
but was blank.


If you are getting Netflix ads, I recommend the Adblock Plus extension.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/

I also see that there is an Adblock Plus Pop-up Addon for even more 
control over pop-ups.


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus-pop-up-addon/

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread Tom S.

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same 
tab, so I have to use the back button to get to 
the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons 
disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there 
will be much difference. It's strange why no one 
else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on 
these sites.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread NoOp
On 10/03/2011 01:39 PM, Tom S. wrote:
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
...
 Try such a configuration:

 browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
 browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0

 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same 
 tab, so I have to use the back button to get to 
 the source page.
 Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons 
 disabled or with a blank profile, but doubt there 
 will be much difference. It's strange why no one 
 else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on 
 these sites.
 

Were I you, I'd run malware/spyware/virus etc., scans. Clear your
cookies, cache, and history (you can easily make a backup first).
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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction



Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0


OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to use
the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway. :-\ I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a blank
profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange why no
one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.



Because we use the ADblock Plus extension.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-03 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/3/11 10:48 AM, Tom S. wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 03.10.2011 10:15, Tom S. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 JD wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP
 SP3.

 Here's something that's bugged me for
 a long while. I thought eventually
 someone else would bring it up and
 soon after, it would be fixed. Oh
 well.

 Why is it SM no longer stops
 pop-ups?

 When a page loads that has a pop-up,
 I have assigned a pop sound and the
 highlighted exclamation point shows
 on the bottom toolbar. But then, if I
 should click anywhere on the page,
 the pop-up will open into a new tab,
 instead of remaining suppressed.
 This happens on almost all websites
 that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they
 will use Flash for these pop-ups, but
 the Flashblock extension disables it,
 so it only shows the F button.)

 Is there anything I can change to
 prevent the pop-ups from happening?

 TIA.



 You do not state whether you have
 Block unrequested popup windows checked
 under your Privacy and Security
 preferences.

 Are the offending popups Ads?

 I don't have Flashblock installed, but
 do have AdBlock Plus installed and
 never have a problem with unrequested
 popups.


 I double checked the preference setting,
 and it is checked. However, I see in the
 disclaimer: Even if blocked, websites
 may use other methods to show popups.
 So, that may be what's happening.

 I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus,
 which I tried a long time ago, but didn't
 like the way it worked back then.


 Got any examples of pages that are giving
 you popups?


 Sure. Here's one (comics site):
 http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/


 Not getting any popup(s) on the site, what are
 you seeing as a popup?


 
 It's usually an ad (using Flash) for Netflix. I
 notice now that after it pops up, it can't get it
 to repeat until after I close SM and open again to
 the page.
 
 Here's a few more sites with the same action:
 
 http://snopes.com/
 
 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/
 
 http://freethoughtblogs.com/
 

No wonder I didn't see any popups.  You say it's Flash, but I run with
the Flashblock extension enabled.  Furthermore, with one execption, I
don't even see the Flashblock icon (f in a circle) because I also run
with the AdBlock Plus extension enabled.

The exception was for one Flash on the
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ page, which was nevertheless
stopped by Flashblock.  With AdBlock Plus disabled, there were three
additional Flash presentations on that page.  All four of them were
stopped by FlashBlock.

None of these Flash presentations meet the classical definition of
popup, at least the definition used in implementing SeaMonkey's Popup
Manager.  To manage Flash, you really should install the Flashblock
extension from http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.  To manage
advertisements in general, use AdBlock Plus from
http://adblockplus.org/en/.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block unrequested popup windows 
checked under your Privacy and Security preferences.


Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have AdBlock Plus installed 
and never have a problem with unrequested popups.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:34:46 -0400, /Tom S./:


I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?


SM continues to stop automatic popups.  I don't see a change in the 
behavior.



When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?


You may stop interacting with the page but I don't think that's much 
useful for you.  Unfortunately popups triggered from an interactive 
actions are not blocked, otherwise it would block all legitimate 
popups triggered explicitly by you.


You may however try to blocking somewhat more (than the default 
setup) or most popups with the Edit - Preferences: Browser / Link 
Behavior settings:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
  (x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
  (x) Always divert windows into tabs

The label for the later is somewhat confusing according the real 
preference documentation [1]:


| 0
| Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow.
| This includes:
|   * All HTML links with target=_blank.
|   * All JavaScript calls to window.open().

That should mean no new windows/tabs could be created by web content 
- only explicitly by you (e.g. using Ctrl+N or Ctrl+T).


Using the default value for the second option with the changed value 
for the first would also block more but no all of the popups (see 
what fits bets for you):


Open links meant to open a new window in:
  (x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
  (x) Don't divert custom windows into tabs

The later really means:

| 2
| Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
| the new window specifies how it should be displayed.
| This includes:
|   * All links with target=_blank.
|   * JavaScript calls to window.open() without the features
| parameter (3rd parameter).
| This does not include:
|   * JavaScript calls to window.open() with the features
| parameter (3rd parameter).

This will eliminate more of the new windows, unless opened by 
scripts with features parameter.


[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread Tom S.

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
 while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
 AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/2/11 8:34 AM, Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.
 
 Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
 thought eventually someone else would bring it up
 and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.
 
 Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?
 
 When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
 assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
 exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
 then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
 pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
 remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
 websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
 use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
 extension disables it, so it only shows the F
 button.)
 
 Is there anything I can change to prevent the
 pop-ups from happening?
 
 TIA.
 
 

Initially, popups (I almost typed poopups, which might be appropriate)
were separate Web pages launched by scripts in the page you wanted to
see.  Today, many popups are artifacts of CSS, Flash, or scripts
themselves (without launching anything).

If they are from Flash, I strongly recommend Flashblock at
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.  I normally run with this enabled.  It
allows me to display a Flash presentation by clicking an icon on the
page containing Flash.

If you know a page uses JavaScript for a popup, you can disable
JavaScript.  I have the PrefBar extension (from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/) installed
with a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling and disabling
JavaScript.  It's very, very handy.  I normally run with JavaScript
enabled.  However, when SeaMonkey seems to be operating strangely, I
disable JavaScript; then, SeaMonkey usually returns to normal behavior.

Similarly, I also have a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling
and disabling CSS.  While disabling CSS strips away almost all
formatting, a well-designed Web page should still have understandable
content.

-- 

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/.

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bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread JD

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

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