[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
 > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:24, Luke771 wrote:
 >> As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
 >> (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
 >> can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
 >> ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
 >> nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,
 >
 > Really? My assumption has always been that nobody forwards ports. You 
should
 > be able to connect anyway though, unless your ISP's NAT is really nasty.
 >

I often helper noobs on #freenet-refs with port forwarding, so I guess 
someone does port forwarding after all. (how well they do that is a 
different story)

The ISP's NAT is like this:
There's an integrated router/switch/hub that includes VoIP software and 
does DHCP, the ISP calls this kind of router "HAG" (home access 
gateway), they run cisco OS (that's what nMap says) and don't answer to 
http or telnet, the only open port appears to be the VoIP one (sorry, I 
forgot the number and what the protocol is called, the protocola 
commonly associated to that port is something like 
h.300(something)/h.(other number) and someone told me that it's VoIP.

When they come to hook you up they bring theis integrated router that 
has three rj45 and two rj11 sockets, only one of the rj11 works, you 
connect your telephone there, but if you use the wrong one, you'll 
always hear the 'busy' tone.

The ISP controls the router remotely (I hate that), and as if that 
wasn't bad enough, there's a whole lot of actions that will trigger a 
"safety" thingy that will disconnect you, for instance, the home users' 
standard contract limits the number of machines to three (yes, I could 
use a 2-NIC machine, a hub, and connect 12 pc's, but that's not the 
point), the router reads the mac of each box that connects to it, and 
I've heard of people who got disconnected for changing a network 
adapter: the software doesn't count how many boxes are actually 
connected, it simply disconnects you when it sees the fourth mac. A 
phonecall to the customer service (works 24/7) usually fixes that right 
away, but it's annoying anyway.

I could go on with more reasons why I call them a "evil" ISP but this 
mail is getting too long, besides being 99% off-topics, so I won't; I'll 
tell some of the things that happens with this kind of connection, and 
why I don't switch ISP:

I can't run stuff like eMule (legal files only, of course), I'd get "low 
ID" only, Bittorrent does work, but only on outbound connections, the 
"check your port forwarding" icon is always up.
And when I tried to set up a 0.5 node, I could only painfully crawl to a 
couple of index sites, nothing more.

I did have problems with nodes that wouldn't connect as peers even on 
0.7, that heppended only two times so far, and I don't get any "NAT 
detected" error message; looks like Freenet works pretty well even from 
behind a NAT (with exclusion of some expecially nasty NAT's, but that 
doesn't seem to be my case)

One fun thing about the evil ISP is that their network topology is 
insane: it's made out of many MAN that connect to each other in a mega 
WAN, so if you know as little as I do about networking that would be 
enough to explore what from your box's point of view appears to be a 
huge LAN. Now, as long as people like myself explore the network out of 
curiosity, there's no problem; the problems begin when someone less 
honest than myself realizes that he's on the same LAN as a lot of 
unaware and computer-illiterate windows users, who don't have any 
administrator password, always log in as administrator, have lots of 
open ports including 139 without even knowing what an 'open port' is, 
and save sensitive data in 'my documents' labelled as important.doc 
bank.doc visa.doc and so forth, and the ISP only think about making more 
money off their customes (you want to be accessible from the internet? 4 
euros a day!!!) and disconnects people for changing nework adapter, 
instead of setting up a network where committing crimes would be at 
least a bit less easy.

Oh, and the reason I don't switch ISP is that in this country there's no 
other ISP that can provide that kind of speed, expecially on upload 
(10/10Mbit), if I dump the evil one, the best I can get is a 6Mbit doen/ 
1Mbit up adsl connection.
Some would say what the heck you need a ten mbit connection for, if you 
can't really use it... and that's not even completely wrong, the point 
is that I'm used with this speed now, and getting used to lowes speeds 
would be a real pain in the ...head. Expecially the first times.

I was gonna add another couple of paragraphs about how bad the contract 
conditions are, but now it's really growing *too* big, so I'll cut it here.
Sorry for the long, offtopics mail (no that's not gonna become a habit)
Luke

Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

Matthew Toseland wrote:
 > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:24, Luke771 wrote:
 >> As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
 >> (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
 >> can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
 >> ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
 >> nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,
 >
 > Really? My assumption has always been that nobody forwards ports. You 
should
 > be able to connect anyway though, unless your ISP's NAT is really nasty.
 >

I often helper noobs on #freenet-refs with port forwarding, so I guess 
someone does port forwarding after all. (how well they do that is a 
different story)

The ISP's NAT is like this:
There's an integrated router/switch/hub that includes VoIP software and 
does DHCP, the ISP calls this kind of router "HAG" (home access 
gateway), they run cisco OS (that's what nMap says) and don't answer to 
http or telnet, the only open port appears to be the VoIP one (sorry, I 
forgot the number and what the protocol is called, the protocola 
commonly associated to that port is something like 
h.300(something)/h.(other number) and someone told me that it's VoIP.

When they come to hook you up they bring theis integrated router that 
has three rj45 and two rj11 sockets, only one of the rj11 works, you 
connect your telephone there, but if you use the wrong one, you'll 
always hear the 'busy' tone.

The ISP controls the router remotely (I hate that), and as if that 
wasn't bad enough, there's a whole lot of actions that will trigger a 
"safety" thingy that will disconnect you, for instance, the home users' 
standard contract limits the number of machines to three (yes, I could 
use a 2-NIC machine, a hub, and connect 12 pc's, but that's not the 
point), the router reads the mac of each box that connects to it, and 
I've heard of people who got disconnected for changing a network 
adapter: the software doesn't count how many boxes are actually 
connected, it simply disconnects you when it sees the fourth mac. A 
phonecall to the customer service (works 24/7) usually fixes that right 
away, but it's annoying anyway.

I could go on with more reasons why I call them a "evil" ISP but this 
mail is getting too long, besides being 99% off-topics, so I won't; I'll 
tell some of the things that happens with this kind of connection, and 
why I don't switch ISP:

I can't run stuff like eMule (legal files only, of course), I'd get "low 
ID" only, Bittorrent does work, but only on outbound connections, the 
"check your port forwarding" icon is always up.
And when I tried to set up a 0.5 node, I could only painfully crawl to a 
couple of index sites, nothing more.

I did have problems with nodes that wouldn't connect as peers even on 
0.7, that heppended only two times so far, and I don't get any "NAT 
detected" error message; looks like Freenet works pretty well even from 
behind a NAT (with exclusion of some expecially nasty NAT's, but that 
doesn't seem to be my case)

One fun thing about the evil ISP is that their network topology is 
insane: it's made out of many MAN that connect to each other in a mega 
WAN, so if you know as little as I do about networking that would be 
enough to explore what from your box's point of view appears to be a 
huge LAN. Now, as long as people like myself explore the network out of 
curiosity, there's no problem; the problems begin when someone less 
honest than myself realizes that he's on the same LAN as a lot of 
unaware and computer-illiterate windows users, who don't have any 
administrator password, always log in as administrator, have lots of 
open ports including 139 without even knowing what an 'open port' is, 
and save sensitive data in 'my documents' labelled as important.doc 
bank.doc visa.doc and so forth, and the ISP only think about making more 
money off their customes (you want to be accessible from the internet? 4 
euros a day!!!) and disconnects people for changing nework adapter, 
instead of setting up a network where committing crimes would be at 
least a bit less easy.

Oh, and the reason I don't switch ISP is that in this country there's no 
other ISP that can provide that kind of speed, expecially on upload 
(10/10Mbit), if I dump the evil one, the best I can get is a 6Mbit doen/ 
1Mbit up adsl connection.
Some would say what the heck you need a ten mbit connection for, if you 
can't really use it... and that's not even completely wrong, the point 
is that I'm used with this speed now, and getting used to lowes speeds 
would be a real pain in the ...head. Expecially the first times.

I was gonna add another couple of paragraphs about how bad the contract 
conditions are, but now it's really growing *too* big, so I'll cut it here.
Sorry for the long, offtopics mail (no that's not gonna become a habit)
Luke
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:58, Ben Dougall wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 01:15  am, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > Looks like you have a very old JVM. What version is installed? What
> > version of
> > OS/X are you running?
>
> OS X 10.2.8, Java 1.4.1
>
> I think I read somewhere that 1.4.1 is OK

Apparently not. Please upgrade to sun java 1.4.2.
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[Matthew Toseland]

On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:24, Luke771 wrote:
> As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
> (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
> can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
> ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
> nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Really? My assumption has always been that nobody forwards ports. You should 
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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:58, Ben Dougall wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 01:15  am, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > Looks like you have a very old JVM. What version is installed? What
> > version of
> > OS/X are you running?
>
> OS X 10.2.8, Java 1.4.1
>
> I think I read somewhere that 1.4.1 is OK

Apparently not. Please upgrade to sun java 1.4.2.


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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:24, Luke771 wrote:
> As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
> (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
> can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
> ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
> nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Really? My assumption has always been that nobody forwards ports. You should 
be able to connect anyway though, unless your ISP's NAT is really nasty.


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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Wednesday, June 6, 2007, at 12:56  am, Juiceman wrote:
>
> Well, OS X 10.2.8 itself isn't the problem.  I guess no one was aware
> of the Java version limitation.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that.  :(

Not to worry, at least I know now.

> If you feel adventurous maybe you can download 1.4.2 and copy the
> libraries over the 1.4.1 files...  I have know idea what will
> happen...

Sounds like potential trouble. I'll try installing OS X 10.3 in the 
near future and see how that goes.

Thanks.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Wednesday, June 6, 2007, at 12:03  am, Juiceman wrote:

>
> I'm not sure about this, but from the log it appears to be a problem
> with SHA-256.
>
> Looking at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/  It
> seems that SHA-256 might not have been added until version 1.4.2
>
> You may just need to update your Java.  BTW 1.4.1 has a security issue
> and minimum 1.4.2 is recommended.


Oh. The only info I found on the Java minimum version was

>  Java version 1.4.1 and later will work. However, be aware that there 
> are applet security vulnerabilities in all versions prior to Java 1.5 
> update 4. Generally, we recommend using Java 1.5.

which is here  but that was 
under the "Unix, and Linux" heading so probably specifically for those 
OSs.

Right, so it seems to be my version of Java isn't up to it. OK thanks. 
I think Java 1.4.1 is the latest version for OS X 10.2.8 so I suppose 
I'll have to try a later version of OS X to get a later version of 
Java. Pretty sure somewhere said OS X 10.2.8 was OK for Freenet 0.7. Oh 
well.

Thanks.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Juiceman]

On 6/5/07, Ben Dougall  wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2007, at 12:03  am, Juiceman wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm not sure about this, but from the log it appears to be a problem
> > with SHA-256.
> >
> > Looking at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/  It
> > seems that SHA-256 might not have been added until version 1.4.2
> >
> > You may just need to update your Java.  BTW 1.4.1 has a security issue
> > and minimum 1.4.2 is recommended.
>
>
> Oh. The only info I found on the Java minimum version was
>
> >  Java version 1.4.1 and later will work. However, be aware that there
> > are applet security vulnerabilities in all versions prior to Java 1.5
> > update 4. Generally, we recommend using Java 1.5.
>
> which is here  but that was
> under the "Unix, and Linux" heading so probably specifically for those
> OSs.
>
> Right, so it seems to be my version of Java isn't up to it. OK thanks.
> I think Java 1.4.1 is the latest version for OS X 10.2.8 so I suppose
> I'll have to try a later version of OS X to get a later version of
> Java. Pretty sure somewhere said OS X 10.2.8 was OK for Freenet 0.7. Oh
> well.
>
> Thanks.

Well, OS X 10.2.8 itself isn't the problem.  I guess no one was aware
of the Java version limitation.

I'm sorry to hear that.  :(

If you feel adventurous maybe you can download 1.4.2 and copy the
libraries over the 1.4.1 files...  I have know idea what will
happen...

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Juiceman]

On 6/5/07, Ben Dougall  wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 03:51  pm, David Sowder wrote:
>
> > I suspect the current real problem is that the node is not starting.
> > Check for a wrapper.log file in directory where Freenet was installed.
> > That should be able to tell us what went wrong.
> >
> > You can verify that Freenet is not running by two methods:
> >
> > ./run.sh status
> >
> > will tell you and
> >
> > netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
> >
> > will show one or more lines of output with LISTEN or LISTENING in them.
>
> Yes, thanks very much for that info -- most helpful (that info should
> be put on/linked to from the welcome.html page that gets included in
> the install, and on the install page, as there's a real lack of info as
> to what to do if connecting to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard -- a "what
> to do if you can't connect to that" bit)
>
> 1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet/
> 2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
> Starting Freenet 0.7...
> 3/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh status
> Freenet 0.7 is not running.
> 4/Applications/Freenet>netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
> 5/Applications/Freenet>
>
> and I waited a while between it saying Starting Freenet, and me typing
> in the two tests to see if it's running. So it isn't running.
>
> A section of the wrapper.log file follows below. It looks like the
> section I've included below was repeated pretty much exactly the same
> several times in the wrapper.log file. This was from the start of the
> file.
>
> Is this the problematic bit?: " java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException:
> SHA-256 MessageDigest not available"
>
> If so does this mean that the implementation or version of Java I'm
> using isn't up to the required level? A newer version would solve this?
> Or might it be possible to add the missing bit ("SHA-256
> MessageDigest") without a whole upgrade?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | --> Wrapper Started as Daemon
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | Launching a JVM...
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 | Wrapper (Version 3.2.3)
> http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |   Copyright 1999-2006 Tanuki
> Software, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 |   
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | Created log files
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | freenet.jar built with
> freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | Detected PowerPC!
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | INFO: Optimized native
> BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-osx-ppc.jnilib' loaded from
> resource
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:09 | Initializing Node using
> Freenet Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple
> Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | FNP port created on
> 0.0.0.0:18227
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Testnet mode DISABLED. You
> may have some level of anonymity. :)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Note that this version of
> Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may well have numerous bugs
> and design flaws.
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | In particular: YOU ARE WIDE
> OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They can eavesdrop on your
> requests with relatively little difficulty at present (correlation
> attacks etc).
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 | Check your JVM settings
> especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256
> MessageDigest not available
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |
> java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256 MessageDigest not
> available
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:583)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:594)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.Security.getImpl(Security.java:1043)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.MessageDigest.getInstance(MessageDigest.java:120)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.crypt.SHA256.getMessageDigest(SHA256.java:368)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.node.Node.initNodeFileSettings(Node.java:659)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.node.Node.(Node.java:1010)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:148)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$12.run(WrapperManager.java:278
> 8)
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:15 | <-- Wrapper Stopped


I'm not sure about this, but from the log it appears to be a problem
with SHA-256.

Looking at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/  It
se

Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Wednesday, June 6, 2007, at 12:56  am, Juiceman wrote:
>
> Well, OS X 10.2.8 itself isn't the problem.  I guess no one was aware
> of the Java version limitation.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that.  :(

Not to worry, at least I know now.

> If you feel adventurous maybe you can download 1.4.2 and copy the
> libraries over the 1.4.1 files...  I have know idea what will
> happen...

Sounds like potential trouble. I'll try installing OS X 10.3 in the 
near future and see how that goes.

Thanks.

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Juiceman]

On 6/5/07, Ben Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2007, at 12:03  am, Juiceman wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm not sure about this, but from the log it appears to be a problem
> > with SHA-256.
> >
> > Looking at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/  It
> > seems that SHA-256 might not have been added until version 1.4.2
> >
> > You may just need to update your Java.  BTW 1.4.1 has a security issue
> > and minimum 1.4.2 is recommended.
>
>
> Oh. The only info I found on the Java minimum version was
>
> >  Java version 1.4.1 and later will work. However, be aware that there
> > are applet security vulnerabilities in all versions prior to Java 1.5
> > update 4. Generally, we recommend using Java 1.5.
>
> which is here  but that was
> under the "Unix, and Linux" heading so probably specifically for those
> OSs.
>
> Right, so it seems to be my version of Java isn't up to it. OK thanks.
> I think Java 1.4.1 is the latest version for OS X 10.2.8 so I suppose
> I'll have to try a later version of OS X to get a later version of
> Java. Pretty sure somewhere said OS X 10.2.8 was OK for Freenet 0.7. Oh
> well.
>
> Thanks.

Well, OS X 10.2.8 itself isn't the problem.  I guess no one was aware
of the Java version limitation.

I'm sorry to hear that.  :(

If you feel adventurous maybe you can download 1.4.2 and copy the
libraries over the 1.4.1 files...  I have know idea what will
happen...
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 03:51  pm, David Sowder wrote:

> I suspect the current real problem is that the node is not starting.
> Check for a wrapper.log file in directory where Freenet was installed.
> That should be able to tell us what went wrong.
>
> You can verify that Freenet is not running by two methods:
>
> ./run.sh status
>
> will tell you and
>
> netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
>
> will show one or more lines of output with LISTEN or LISTENING in them.

Yes, thanks very much for that info -- most helpful (that info should  
be put on/linked to from the welcome.html page that gets included in  
the install, and on the install page, as there's a real lack of info as  
to what to do if connecting to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard -- a "what  
to do if you can't connect to that" bit)

1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet/
2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
Starting Freenet 0.7...
3/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh status
Freenet 0.7 is not running.
4/Applications/Freenet>netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
5/Applications/Freenet>

and I waited a while between it saying Starting Freenet, and me typing  
in the two tests to see if it's running. So it isn't running.

A section of the wrapper.log file follows below. It looks like the  
section I've included below was repeated pretty much exactly the same  
several times in the wrapper.log file. This was from the start of the  
file.

Is this the problematic bit?: " java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException:  
SHA-256 MessageDigest not available"

If so does this mean that the implementation or version of Java I'm  
using isn't up to the required level? A newer version would solve this?  
Or might it be possible to add the missing bit ("SHA-256  
MessageDigest") without a whole upgrade?

Thanks.


STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | --> Wrapper Started as Daemon
STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | Launching a JVM...
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 | Wrapper (Version 3.2.3)  
http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |   Copyright 1999-2006 Tanuki  
Software, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 |   
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | Created log files
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | freenet.jar built with  
freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | Detected PowerPC!
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | INFO: Optimized native  
BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-osx-ppc.jnilib' loaded from  
resource
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:09 | Initializing Node using  
Freenet Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple  
Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | FNP port created on  
0.0.0.0:18227
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Testnet mode DISABLED. You  
may have some level of anonymity. :)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Note that this version of  
Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may well have numerous bugs  
and design flaws.
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | In particular: YOU ARE WIDE  
OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They can eavesdrop on your  
requests with relatively little difficulty at present (correlation  
attacks etc).
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 | Check your JVM settings  
especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256  
MessageDigest not available
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |  
java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256 MessageDigest not  
available
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:583)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:594)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.Security.getImpl(Security.java:1043)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.MessageDigest.getInstance(MessageDigest.java:120)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.crypt.SHA256.getMessageDigest(SHA256.java:368)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.node.Node.initNodeFileSettings(Node.java:659)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.node.Node.(Node.java:1010)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:148)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$12.run(WrapperManager.java:278 
8)
STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:15 | <-- Wrapper Stopped

Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Wednesday, June 6, 2007, at 12:03  am, Juiceman wrote:

>
> I'm not sure about this, but from the log it appears to be a problem
> with SHA-256.
>
> Looking at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/  It
> seems that SHA-256 might not have been added until version 1.4.2
>
> You may just need to update your Java.  BTW 1.4.1 has a security issue
> and minimum 1.4.2 is recommended.


Oh. The only info I found on the Java minimum version was

>  Java version 1.4.1 and later will work. However, be aware that there 
> are applet security vulnerabilities in all versions prior to Java 1.5 
> update 4. Generally, we recommend using Java 1.5.

which is here  but that was 
under the "Unix, and Linux" heading so probably specifically for those 
OSs.

Right, so it seems to be my version of Java isn't up to it. OK thanks. 
I think Java 1.4.1 is the latest version for OS X 10.2.8 so I suppose 
I'll have to try a later version of OS X to get a later version of 
Java. Pretty sure somewhere said OS X 10.2.8 was OK for Freenet 0.7. Oh 
well.

Thanks.

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Juiceman]

On 6/5/07, Ben Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 03:51  pm, David Sowder wrote:
>
> > I suspect the current real problem is that the node is not starting.
> > Check for a wrapper.log file in directory where Freenet was installed.
> > That should be able to tell us what went wrong.
> >
> > You can verify that Freenet is not running by two methods:
> >
> > ./run.sh status
> >
> > will tell you and
> >
> > netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
> >
> > will show one or more lines of output with LISTEN or LISTENING in them.
>
> Yes, thanks very much for that info -- most helpful (that info should
> be put on/linked to from the welcome.html page that gets included in
> the install, and on the install page, as there's a real lack of info as
> to what to do if connecting to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard -- a "what
> to do if you can't connect to that" bit)
>
> 1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet/
> 2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
> Starting Freenet 0.7...
> 3/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh status
> Freenet 0.7 is not running.
> 4/Applications/Freenet>netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
> 5/Applications/Freenet>
>
> and I waited a while between it saying Starting Freenet, and me typing
> in the two tests to see if it's running. So it isn't running.
>
> A section of the wrapper.log file follows below. It looks like the
> section I've included below was repeated pretty much exactly the same
> several times in the wrapper.log file. This was from the start of the
> file.
>
> Is this the problematic bit?: " java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException:
> SHA-256 MessageDigest not available"
>
> If so does this mean that the implementation or version of Java I'm
> using isn't up to the required level? A newer version would solve this?
> Or might it be possible to add the missing bit ("SHA-256
> MessageDigest") without a whole upgrade?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | --> Wrapper Started as Daemon
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | Launching a JVM...
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 | Wrapper (Version 3.2.3)
> http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |   Copyright 1999-2006 Tanuki
> Software, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 |   
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | Created log files
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | freenet.jar built with
> freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | Detected PowerPC!
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | INFO: Optimized native
> BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-osx-ppc.jnilib' loaded from
> resource
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:09 | Initializing Node using
> Freenet Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple
> Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | FNP port created on
> 0.0.0.0:18227
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Testnet mode DISABLED. You
> may have some level of anonymity. :)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Note that this version of
> Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may well have numerous bugs
> and design flaws.
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | In particular: YOU ARE WIDE
> OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They can eavesdrop on your
> requests with relatively little difficulty at present (correlation
> attacks etc).
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 | Check your JVM settings
> especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256
> MessageDigest not available
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |
> java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256 MessageDigest not
> available
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:583)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:594)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.Security.getImpl(Security.java:1043)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> java.security.MessageDigest.getInstance(MessageDigest.java:120)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.crypt.SHA256.getMessageDigest(SHA256.java:368)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.node.Node.initNodeFileSettings(Node.java:659)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.node.Node.(Node.java:1010)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:148)
> INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at
> org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$12.run(WrapperManager.java:278
> 8)
> STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:15 | <-- Wrapper Stopped


I'm not sure about this, but from the log it appears to be a problem
with SHA-256.

Looking at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/gui

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:44  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>>
>> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent
>> you
>> from accessing your node's local interface.
>
> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.

Sorry, that's wrong. You're right Matthew, the base station is making 
me be behind a NAT. The Airport base station is set up to share one IP 
address using DHCP and NAT. (Not sure about the firewall aspect of it 
though. Don't think it is a firewall so I don't think I am behind a 
firewall but I'm not sure.)

So that makes this question more important I think:

Why doesn't my freenet.ini file contain anything that seems to resemble 
a node.listenPort number? According to a FAQ on the Freenet site
> Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connections to the
> node.listenPort number (You can find it in a file called freenet.ini
> in the freenet folder), to the same port on your computer (you will
> probably need to know your computer's  internal IP address which will
> often begin with 192.168.x.x). Remember that freenet 0.7 uses UDP.
but I can't do that as I don't know what the listen port number is. How 
can I find out what that is?

Thanks.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 10:24  am, Luke771 wrote:

> In Firefox the proxy settings are under
> Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Network/Settings <=that's on Linux, the
> Windows version goes Tools/preferences, etc (never used FF on MacOS)

Thanks for the info, but there's no proxies set in either of my 
browsers, nor in the global system preferences, so the reason Freenet 
isn't working for me, in particular why I can't connect to 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard (and maybe also why Freenet isn't starting 
up successfully possibly -- I don't know of anyway to find out whether 
Freenet is started up or not) is not because of proxy settings I don't 
think.



How can you tell if Freenet is started up or not? If it's not started 
up then there's no point in me trying to connect to 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard I don't think. Is that correct; Freenet 
needs to be started first before attempting to connect to 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard ?

In the Terminal (command line):
> 1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet
> 2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
> Starting Freenet 0.7...
> 3/Applications/Freenet>
Is that a successful Freenet startup? Is that the way to do it -- using 
the command line on a Mac?

What is the "freenet.jar" file? Is that supposed to start up Freenet? 
Double clicking on that file result in this in a window:
> Jar Launcher
> The jar file "freenet-stable-lates.jar" couldn't be launched. Check the
> Console for possible error messages.
That's bad? Seems bad. Freenet is not installed OK maybe? Or there's 
something incompatible with my set up and Freenet maybe? (Checking 
Console for possible error messages gives a similar message suggesting 
you to check the Console).

The fact that there is no wizard file anywhere on my machine -- is that 
a problem or not? (I'm just trying to eliminate possible problems.)

Lots of lines like:
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivityTitle hasn't been found! please
> tell the maintainer.
in the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs folder in the Freenet 
folder -- bad? Sounds bad but maybe not. Who is the maintainer?! Lets 
hope the maintainer sees this message. I presume it doesn't matter a 
jot whether the maintainer whoever or whatever that is doesn't get told.


Any answers to just one of those questions would be much appreciated.

Mac OS X 10.2.8. Java 1.4.1. Freenet 0.7 installed from the Mac OS X 
bit on this page . On that 
page, but under the Unix install not the other installs it says
> Java version 1.4.1 and later will work. However, be aware that there 
> are applet security vulnerabilities in all versions prior to Java 1.5 
> update 4. Generally, we recommend using Java 1.5.
That statement about Java versions, does that apply to other systems as 
well as Unix, or is it only applicable to Unix? If only Unix what Java 
version info is relevant for Mac OS X and Freenet 0.7, and where is 
that info?



> As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
> (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
> can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
> ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
> nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Right so it's probably not the NAT aspect possibly (which I've now 
found out I am behind).

Thanks.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

In Firefox the proxy settings are under 
Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Network/Settings <=that's on Linux, the 
Windows version goes Tools/preferences, etc (never used FF on MacOS)

There are several quick proxy switching extensions for FF, my favorite 
is "Switch Proxy Tool" (in button mode, not the whole toolbar: hide the 
toolbar and use the rightclick/customize shortcut, or 
View/Toolbars/Customize toolbars; once you install Switch Proxy Tool and 
restart, you'll be able to draw and drop a button to one of your 
toolbars, that button will add an item for each proxy you set up to a 
drop-down menu)

I have my browser set to use Tor and I browse freesites using the line 
http://127.0.0.1:/ before the key, which is equivalent of setting 
the proxy to 127.0.0.1 port  and only pasting the key in the address 
field, but using the whole proxy:port line (which overrides your proxy 
settings) and having the browser set to use a fairly reliable 
anonymizing proxy, you have the "double protection" provided by that 
proxy setting that will route your communications thru the Tor network 
if you click on a non-Freenet link (i2p can also be used that way).
Freenet will warn you and ask if you are sure before going to a 
non-Freenet location.

As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding 
(evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I 
can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded 
ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all 
nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Ben Dougall wrote:
> Thanks very much for the reply.
> 
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> 
>> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 
>> 127.0.0.1.
> 
> I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's 
> preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a 
> Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but 
> no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: "Use Passive FTP 
> Mode (PASV)" which I guess is nothing to do with this.
> 
>> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent 
>> you
>> from accessing your node's local interface.
> 
> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
> 
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[David Sowder]

Ben Dougall wrote:
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:44  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:
>   
>> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> 
>>> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent
>>> you
>>> from accessing your node's local interface.
>>>   
>> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
>> 
>
> Sorry, that's wrong. You're right Matthew, the base station is making 
> me be behind a NAT. The Airport base station is set up to share one IP 
> address using DHCP and NAT. (Not sure about the firewall aspect of it 
> though. Don't think it is a firewall so I don't think I am behind a 
> firewall but I'm not sure.)
>
> So that makes this question more important I think:
>
> Why doesn't my freenet.ini file contain anything that seems to resemble 
> a node.listenPort number? According to a FAQ on the Freenet site
>   
>> Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connections to the
>> node.listenPort number (You can find it in a file called freenet.ini
>> in the freenet folder), to the same port on your computer (you will
>> probably need to know your computer's  internal IP address which will
>> often begin with 192.168.x.x). Remember that freenet 0.7 uses UDP.
>> 
> but I can't do that as I don't know what the listen port number is. How 
> can I find out what that is?
>   
I suspect the current real problem is that the node is not starting.  
Check for a wrapper.log file in directory where Freenet was installed.  
That should be able to tell us what went wrong.

You can verify that Freenet is not running by two methods:

./run.sh status

will tell you and

netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"

will show one or more lines of output with LISTEN or LISTENING in them.

Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 03:51  pm, David Sowder wrote:

> I suspect the current real problem is that the node is not starting.
> Check for a wrapper.log file in directory where Freenet was installed.
> That should be able to tell us what went wrong.
>
> You can verify that Freenet is not running by two methods:
>
> ./run.sh status
>
> will tell you and
>
> netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
>
> will show one or more lines of output with LISTEN or LISTENING in them.

Yes, thanks very much for that info -- most helpful (that info should  
be put on/linked to from the welcome.html page that gets included in  
the install, and on the install page, as there's a real lack of info as  
to what to do if connecting to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard -- a "what  
to do if you can't connect to that" bit)

1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet/
2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
Starting Freenet 0.7...
3/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh status
Freenet 0.7 is not running.
4/Applications/Freenet>netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"
5/Applications/Freenet>

and I waited a while between it saying Starting Freenet, and me typing  
in the two tests to see if it's running. So it isn't running.

A section of the wrapper.log file follows below. It looks like the  
section I've included below was repeated pretty much exactly the same  
several times in the wrapper.log file. This was from the start of the  
file.

Is this the problematic bit?: " java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException:  
SHA-256 MessageDigest not available"

If so does this mean that the implementation or version of Java I'm  
using isn't up to the required level? A newer version would solve this?  
Or might it be possible to add the missing bit ("SHA-256  
MessageDigest") without a whole upgrade?

Thanks.


STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | --> Wrapper Started as Daemon
STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:04 | Launching a JVM...
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 | Wrapper (Version 3.2.3)  
http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |   Copyright 1999-2006 Tanuki  
Software, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:06 |
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 |   
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | Created log files
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:07 | freenet.jar built with  
freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | Detected PowerPC!
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:08 | INFO: Optimized native  
BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-osx-ppc.jnilib' loaded from  
resource
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:09 | Initializing Node using  
Freenet Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple  
Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | FNP port created on  
0.0.0.0:18227
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Testnet mode DISABLED. You  
may have some level of anonymity. :)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | Note that this version of  
Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may well have numerous bugs  
and design flaws.
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:11 | In particular: YOU ARE WIDE  
OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They can eavesdrop on your  
requests with relatively little difficulty at present (correlation  
attacks etc).
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 | Check your JVM settings  
especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256  
MessageDigest not available
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |  
java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256 MessageDigest not  
available
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:583)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.Security.getEngineClassName(Security.java:594)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.Security.getImpl(Security.java:1043)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
java.security.MessageDigest.getInstance(MessageDigest.java:120)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.crypt.SHA256.getMessageDigest(SHA256.java:368)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.node.Node.initNodeFileSettings(Node.java:659)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.node.Node.(Node.java:1010)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:148)
INFO   | jvm 1| 2007/06/04 19:43:13 |   at  
org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$12.run(WrapperManager.java:278 
8)
STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/06/04 19:43:15 | <-- Wrapper Stopped
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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[David Sowder]

Ben Dougall wrote:
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:44  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:
>   
>> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> 
>>> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent
>>> you
>>> from accessing your node's local interface.
>>>   
>> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
>> 
>
> Sorry, that's wrong. You're right Matthew, the base station is making 
> me be behind a NAT. The Airport base station is set up to share one IP 
> address using DHCP and NAT. (Not sure about the firewall aspect of it 
> though. Don't think it is a firewall so I don't think I am behind a 
> firewall but I'm not sure.)
>
> So that makes this question more important I think:
>
> Why doesn't my freenet.ini file contain anything that seems to resemble 
> a node.listenPort number? According to a FAQ on the Freenet site
>   
>> Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connections to the
>> node.listenPort number (You can find it in a file called freenet.ini
>> in the freenet folder), to the same port on your computer (you will
>> probably need to know your computer's  internal IP address which will
>> often begin with 192.168.x.x). Remember that freenet 0.7 uses UDP.
>> 
> but I can't do that as I don't know what the listen port number is. How 
> can I find out what that is?
>   
I suspect the current real problem is that the node is not starting.  
Check for a wrapper.log file in directory where Freenet was installed.  
That should be able to tell us what went wrong.

You can verify that Freenet is not running by two methods:

./run.sh status

will tell you and

netstat -an |egrep -i "tcp.*"

will show one or more lines of output with LISTEN or LISTENING in them.
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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:44  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>>
>> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent
>> you
>> from accessing your node's local interface.
>
> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.

Sorry, that's wrong. You're right Matthew, the base station is making 
me be behind a NAT. The Airport base station is set up to share one IP 
address using DHCP and NAT. (Not sure about the firewall aspect of it 
though. Don't think it is a firewall so I don't think I am behind a 
firewall but I'm not sure.)

So that makes this question more important I think:

Why doesn't my freenet.ini file contain anything that seems to resemble 
a node.listenPort number? According to a FAQ on the Freenet site
> Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connections to the
> node.listenPort number (You can find it in a file called freenet.ini
> in the freenet folder), to the same port on your computer (you will
> probably need to know your computer's  internal IP address which will
> often begin with 192.168.x.x). Remember that freenet 0.7 uses UDP.
but I can't do that as I don't know what the listen port number is. How 
can I find out what that is?

Thanks.

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 10:24  am, Luke771 wrote:

> In Firefox the proxy settings are under
> Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Network/Settings <=that's on Linux, the
> Windows version goes Tools/preferences, etc (never used FF on MacOS)

Thanks for the info, but there's no proxies set in either of my 
browsers, nor in the global system preferences, so the reason Freenet 
isn't working for me, in particular why I can't connect to 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard (and maybe also why Freenet isn't starting 
up successfully possibly -- I don't know of anyway to find out whether 
Freenet is started up or not) is not because of proxy settings I don't 
think.



How can you tell if Freenet is started up or not? If it's not started 
up then there's no point in me trying to connect to 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard I don't think. Is that correct; Freenet 
needs to be started first before attempting to connect to 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard ?

In the Terminal (command line):
> 1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet
> 2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
> Starting Freenet 0.7...
> 3/Applications/Freenet>
Is that a successful Freenet startup? Is that the way to do it -- using 
the command line on a Mac?

What is the "freenet.jar" file? Is that supposed to start up Freenet? 
Double clicking on that file result in this in a window:
> Jar Launcher
> The jar file "freenet-stable-lates.jar" couldn't be launched. Check the
> Console for possible error messages.
That's bad? Seems bad. Freenet is not installed OK maybe? Or there's 
something incompatible with my set up and Freenet maybe? (Checking 
Console for possible error messages gives a similar message suggesting 
you to check the Console).

The fact that there is no wizard file anywhere on my machine -- is that 
a problem or not? (I'm just trying to eliminate possible problems.)

Lots of lines like:
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivityTitle hasn't been found! please
> tell the maintainer.
in the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs folder in the Freenet 
folder -- bad? Sounds bad but maybe not. Who is the maintainer?! Lets 
hope the maintainer sees this message. I presume it doesn't matter a 
jot whether the maintainer whoever or whatever that is doesn't get told.


Any answers to just one of those questions would be much appreciated.

Mac OS X 10.2.8. Java 1.4.1. Freenet 0.7 installed from the Mac OS X 
bit on this page . On that 
page, but under the Unix install not the other installs it says
> Java version 1.4.1 and later will work. However, be aware that there 
> are applet security vulnerabilities in all versions prior to Java 1.5 
> update 4. Generally, we recommend using Java 1.5.
That statement about Java versions, does that apply to other systems as 
well as Unix, or is it only applicable to Unix? If only Unix what Java 
version info is relevant for Mac OS X and Freenet 0.7, and where is 
that info?



> As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding
> (evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I
> can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded
> ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all
> nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Right so it's probably not the NAT aspect possibly (which I've now 
found out I am behind).

Thanks.

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Luke771]

In Firefox the proxy settings are under 
Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Network/Settings <=that's on Linux, the 
Windows version goes Tools/preferences, etc (never used FF on MacOS)

There are several quick proxy switching extensions for FF, my favorite 
is "Switch Proxy Tool" (in button mode, not the whole toolbar: hide the 
toolbar and use the rightclick/customize shortcut, or 
View/Toolbars/Customize toolbars; once you install Switch Proxy Tool and 
restart, you'll be able to draw and drop a button to one of your 
toolbars, that button will add an item for each proxy you set up to a 
drop-down menu)

I have my browser set to use Tor and I browse freesites using the line 
http://127.0.0.1:/ before the key, which is equivalent of setting 
the proxy to 127.0.0.1 port  and only pasting the key in the address 
field, but using the whole proxy:port line (which overrides your proxy 
settings) and having the browser set to use a fairly reliable 
anonymizing proxy, you have the "double protection" provided by that 
proxy setting that will route your communications thru the Tor network 
if you click on a non-Freenet link (i2p can also be used that way).
Freenet will warn you and ask if you are sure before going to a 
non-Freenet location.

As for the NAT thing, I'm behind a NAT where I can't do port forwarding 
(evil ISP) and my 0.7 node works perfectly... well, almost perfectly: I 
can't peer to nodes that are also behind a NAT and with no forwarded 
ports, but that's not much of a limitation, I can connect to almost all 
nodes, as not many of them are NAT'ed and with no forwarded ports,

Ben Dougall wrote:
> Thanks very much for the reply.
> 
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> 
>> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 
>> 127.0.0.1.
> 
> I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's 
> preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a 
> Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but 
> no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: "Use Passive FTP 
> Mode (PASV)" which I guess is nothing to do with this.
> 
>> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent 
>> you
>> from accessing your node's local interface.
> 
> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
> 
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 01:15  am, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> Looks like you have a very old JVM. What version is installed? What 
> version of
> OS/X are you running?

OS X 10.2.8, Java 1.4.1

I think I read somewhere that 1.4.1 is OK

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

On Monday 04 June 2007 22:28, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 127.0.0.1.
>
> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent you
> from accessing your node's local interface.
>
> On Monday 04 June 2007 22:21, Ben Dougall wrote:
> > This is the contents of the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs
> > folder in the Freenet folder (I have no idea what's going on):
> >
> > Jun 04, 2007 20:16:46:069 (freenet.node.Node,
> > WrapperListener_start_runner, ERROR): Check your JVM settings
> > especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256
> > MessageDigest not available

Looks like you have a very old JVM. What version is installed? What version of 
OS/X are you running?
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

> I found a Proxy button in Safari's preferences, which when clicked 
> opens the above mentioned Proxy settings in the System Prefs (which 
> has nothing set), so having something set for 127.0.0.1 is definitely 
> not the problem.

And I've just found the Firefox one: it's set to "Direct Connection to 
the Internet"

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:44  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:

> Thanks very much for the reply.
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>
>> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for
>> 127.0.0.1.
>
> I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's
> preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a
> Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but
> no setting are on

I found a Proxy button in Safari's preferences, which when clicked 
opens the above mentioned Proxy settings in the System Prefs (which has 
nothing set), so having something set for 127.0.0.1 is definitely not 
the problem.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

Under connection settings?

On Monday 04 June 2007 22:44, Ben Dougall wrote:
> Thanks very much for the reply.
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for
> > 127.0.0.1.
>
> I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's
> preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a
> Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but
> no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: "Use Passive FTP
> Mode (PASV)" which I guess is nothing to do with this.
>
> > BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent
> > you
> > from accessing your node's local interface.
>
> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
>
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

Thanks very much for the reply.

On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 
> 127.0.0.1.

I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's 
preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a 
Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but 
no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: "Use Passive FTP 
Mode (PASV)" which I guess is nothing to do with this.

> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent 
> you
> from accessing your node's local interface.

I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 127.0.0.1.

BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent you 
from accessing your node's local interface.

On Monday 04 June 2007 22:21, Ben Dougall wrote:
> This is the contents of the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs
> folder in the Freenet folder (I have no idea what's going on):
>
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:41:525 (freenet.node.NodeStarter,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): freenet.jar built with
> freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:42:619 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Initializing Node using Freenet
> Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple
> Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:644 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivityTitle hasn't been found! please
> tell the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:646 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivity hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:647 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetricTitle hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:648 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetric hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:649 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestrictedTitle hasn't been found! please
> tell the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:650 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestricted hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:651 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.restrictedTitle hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:662 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.restricted hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:684 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.fullConeTitle hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:685 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.fullCone hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:716 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.directTitle hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:717 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.direct hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:971 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): FNP port created on 0.0.0.0:31766
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:977 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating node...
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:124 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Testnet mode DISABLED. You may
> have some level of anonymity. :)
> Note that this version of Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may
> well have numerous bugs and design flaws.
> In particular: YOU ARE WIDE OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They
> can eavesdrop on your requests with relatively little difficulty at
> present (correlation attacks etc).
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:158 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating new node file from
> scratch
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:46:069 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, ERROR): Check your JVM settings
> especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256
> MessageDigest not available
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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

This is the contents of the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs 
folder in the Freenet folder (I have no idea what's going on):

Jun 04, 2007 20:16:41:525 (freenet.node.NodeStarter, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): freenet.jar built with 
freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:42:619 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Initializing Node using Freenet 
Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple 
Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:644 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivityTitle hasn't been found! please 
tell the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:646 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivity hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:647 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetricTitle hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:648 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetric hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:649 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestrictedTitle hasn't been found! please 
tell the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:650 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestricted hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:651 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.restrictedTitle hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:662 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.restricted hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:684 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.fullConeTitle hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:685 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.fullCone hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:716 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.directTitle hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:717 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.direct hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:971 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): FNP port created on 0.0.0.0:31766
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:977 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating node...
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:124 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Testnet mode DISABLED. You may 
have some level of anonymity. :)
Note that this version of Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may 
well have numerous bugs and design flaws.
In particular: YOU ARE WIDE OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They 
can eavesdrop on your requests with relatively little difficulty at 
present (correlation attacks etc).
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:158 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating new node file from 
scratch
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:46:069 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, ERROR): Check your JVM settings 
especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256 
MessageDigest not available

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

> Should Freenet be started up before you
> attempt going to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ ?

In the Terminal (command line):

1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet
2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
Starting Freenet 0.7...
3/Applications/Freenet>

Is that a successful Freenet startup? Is that the way to do it -- using 
the command line? Still, following the instructions in the welcome.html 
file to go to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ results in "Firefox can't 
establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:."

Maybe "freenet.jar" (which is an alias file in the Freenet folder) does 
it? Double clicking on that result in a window:

Jar Launcher

The jar file "freenet-stable-lates.jar" couldn't be launched. Check the 
Consode for possible error messages. Does that mean the Console app? If 
so the Console says:

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
com/sleepycat/je/DatabaseException
2007-06-04 21:33:18.884 Jar Launcher[769] CFLog (20): Jar Launcher:  
The jar file "freenet-stable-latest.jar" couldn't be launched. Check 
the Console for possible error messages

Hmm, that's good, we're in the Console looking at the "console.log" 
file. How can I check the Console any further?

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

How come the welcome.html file tells me to open 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ when there is not a single file on my 
machine called wizard or that has the word wizard in it? Should there 
be?

How come the welcome.html says:

> Freenet 0.7 Installation Successful!
>
> Next, configure your node and connect your node to the network.
> The next step is to access the First time wizard.  ...

and doesn't say anything about making sure Freenet is started up and 
how to go about starting it up? Should Freenet be started up before you 
attempt going to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ ? Once installed, does 
that automatically start up Freenet? Does Freenet stay started up or 
does it shut down after a while? Does it shut down and need starting up 
again after you restart you machine?

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

Maybe it's a firewall/NAT issue?

I actually have no idea if I'm behind a firewall/NAT or not I'm afraid.  
I'm connected to the net via a home broadband connection which goes  
into an ADSL ethernet modem, to an Airport (wireless) base station, to  
my laptop. Some people have told me "your base station is not a  
firewall" and others have told me "your base station acts as a  
firewall". That's why I have no idea if I'm behind a firewall or not.  
In the Sharing system preferences panel I have the firewall (which is a  
software one on my machine I think) turned off, and there are no  
firewall settings turned on or off on the base station that I'm aware  
of.

So whether the base station is causing me to not be able to connect to  
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ I'm not sure. Freenet's help docs are not  
helping. Assuming the base station is acting as a firewall/NAT, here  
 it says:

> How do I get freenet working with a Firewall/NAT?
...
> Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connections to the   
> node.listenPort number (You can find it in a file called freenet.ini  
> in the freenet folder), to the same port on your computer (you will  
> probably need to know your computer's  internal IP address which will  
> often begin with 192.168.x.x). Remember that freenet 0.7 uses UDP.

There is no such information in the freenet.ini file from what I can  
tell. This is what that file looks like:

node.updater.enabled=true
pluginmanager.loadplugin=plugins.Librarian.Librarian at file:/// 
Applications/Freenet/plugins/Librarian.jar;plugins.UPnP.UPnP at file:/// 
Applications/Freenet/plugins/UPnP.jar;plugins.JSTUN.JSTUN at file:/// 
Applications/Freenet/plugins/ 
JSTUN.jar;plugins.MDNSDiscovery.MDNSDiscovery at file:///Applications/ 
Freenet/plugins/MDNSDiscovery.jar;
fproxy.enabled=true
fproxy.port=
fcp.enabled=true
fcp.port=9481
console.enabled=true
console.port=2323
fproxy.enabled=true
fproxy.port=
fcp.enabled=true
fcp.port=9481
console.enabled=true
console.port=2323


Any help / suggestions as to why it's not possible for me to access  
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ would be much appreciated.

Ben.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 08:22  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:

> At a couple of points it attempted to load the welcome.html file in a
> browser (I think).

I say "I think" there because it used something I haven't come across 
before: some Java browser thing, then in BBEdit (a text editor). It 
just failed to open it up in an actual web browser because I have .html 
files associated with BBEdit -- I think that's what happened there -- 
so is a non issue.

[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

Hi,

I am unable to get Freenet 0.7 going at all in Mac OS X 10.2.8, Java 
1.4.1.

I've tried a number of ways. The most recent way is the "Install 
Freenet 0.7 using JavaWebStart." option under Mac OSX on this page 
.

It went through the installation process and I think installed OK.

At a couple of points it attempted to load the welcome.html file in a 
browser (I think). Here's what's in the Freenet folder (some of which 
are folders, contents of not shown):

bin
freenet-ext.jar
freenet-ext.jar.sha1
freenet-stable-latest.jar
freenet-stable-latest.jar.sha1
freenet.ini
freenet.jar
frost
frost.zip
frost.zip.sha1
jSite
lib
LICENSE.Freenet
LICENSE.Mantissa
logs
plugins
README
run.sh
Thaw
Uninstaller
update.sh
update.sh.sha1
welcome.html
wrapper.conf
wrapper.log


Opening the welcome.html file in Firefox 2 I'm told the first thing to 
do is go to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/

Attempting to access that address (and a number of others that I've 
tried, localhost: instead of that IP number, 10.0.1.2:, and the 
address that going to a "what is my ip address" page gives with : 
on the end) fails.

Any ideas what might make Freenet work ?

Thanks, Ben.

Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 01:15  am, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> Looks like you have a very old JVM. What version is installed? What 
> version of
> OS/X are you running?

OS X 10.2.8, Java 1.4.1

I think I read somewhere that 1.4.1 is OK

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

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On Monday 04 June 2007 22:28, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 127.0.0.1.
>
> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent you
> from accessing your node's local interface.
>
> On Monday 04 June 2007 22:21, Ben Dougall wrote:
> > This is the contents of the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs
> > folder in the Freenet folder (I have no idea what's going on):
> >
> > Jun 04, 2007 20:16:46:069 (freenet.node.Node,
> > WrapperListener_start_runner, ERROR): Check your JVM settings
> > especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256
> > MessageDigest not available

Looks like you have a very old JVM. What version is installed? What version of 
OS/X are you running?


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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

> I found a Proxy button in Safari's preferences, which when clicked 
> opens the above mentioned Proxy settings in the System Prefs (which 
> has nothing set), so having something set for 127.0.0.1 is definitely 
> not the problem.

And I've just found the Firefox one: it's set to "Direct Connection to 
the Internet"

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:44  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:

> Thanks very much for the reply.
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>
>> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for
>> 127.0.0.1.
>
> I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's
> preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a
> Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but
> no setting are on

I found a Proxy button in Safari's preferences, which when clicked 
opens the above mentioned Proxy settings in the System Prefs (which has 
nothing set), so having something set for 127.0.0.1 is definitely not 
the problem.

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

Under connection settings?

On Monday 04 June 2007 22:44, Ben Dougall wrote:
> Thanks very much for the reply.
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for
> > 127.0.0.1.
>
> I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's
> preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a
> Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but
> no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: "Use Passive FTP
> Mode (PASV)" which I guess is nothing to do with this.
>
> > BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent
> > you
> > from accessing your node's local interface.
>
> I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.
>
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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

Thanks very much for the reply.

On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 10:28  pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 
> 127.0.0.1.

I can't see any proxy setting in either Firefox nor Safari's 
preferences. I've certainly never turned any on before. There is a 
Proxy settings tab in the Network panel in the System preferences, but 
no setting are on here apart from one box is checked: "Use Passive FTP 
Mode (PASV)" which I guess is nothing to do with this.

> BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent 
> you
> from accessing your node's local interface.

I think it does allow NAT but NAT is not turned on.

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Matthew Toseland]

Check your browser proxy settings. You want to set no proxy for 127.0.0.1.

BTW your airport is almost certainly a NAT, but that shouldn't prevent you 
from accessing your node's local interface.

On Monday 04 June 2007 22:21, Ben Dougall wrote:
> This is the contents of the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs
> folder in the Freenet folder (I have no idea what's going on):
>
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:41:525 (freenet.node.NodeStarter,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): freenet.jar built with
> freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:42:619 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Initializing Node using Freenet
> Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple
> Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:644 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivityTitle hasn't been found! please
> tell the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:646 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivity hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:647 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetricTitle hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:648 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetric hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:649 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestrictedTitle hasn't been found! please
> tell the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:650 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestricted hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:651 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.restrictedTitle hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:662 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.restricted hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:684 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.fullConeTitle hasn't been found! please tell
> the maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:685 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.fullCone hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:716 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.directTitle hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:717 (java.lang.String,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for
> IPDetectorPluginManager.direct hasn't been found! please tell the
> maintainer.
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:971 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): FNP port created on 0.0.0.0:31766
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:977 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating node...
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:124 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Testnet mode DISABLED. You may
> have some level of anonymity. :)
> Note that this version of Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may
> well have numerous bugs and design flaws.
> In particular: YOU ARE WIDE OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They
> can eavesdrop on your requests with relatively little difficulty at
> present (correlation attacks etc).
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:158 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating new node file from
> scratch
> Jun 04, 2007 20:16:46:069 (freenet.node.Node,
> WrapperListener_start_runner, ERROR): Check your JVM settings
> especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256
> MessageDigest not available
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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

This is the contents of the "freenet-latest.log" file in the logs 
folder in the Freenet folder (I have no idea what's going on):

Jun 04, 2007 20:16:41:525 (freenet.node.NodeStarter, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): freenet.jar built with 
freenet-ext.jar Build #13 r12938
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:42:619 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Initializing Node using Freenet 
Build #1036 r13439 and freenet-ext Build #13 r12938 with "Apple 
Computer, Inc." JVM version 1.4.1_01-24 running on ppc Mac OS X 10.2.8
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:644 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivityTitle hasn't been found! please 
tell the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:646 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.noConnectivity hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:647 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetricTitle hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:648 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.symmetric hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:649 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestrictedTitle hasn't been found! please 
tell the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:650 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.portRestricted hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:651 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.restrictedTitle hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:662 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.restricted hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:684 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.fullConeTitle hasn't been found! please tell 
the maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:685 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.fullCone hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:716 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.directTitle hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:717 (java.lang.String, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): The translation for 
IPDetectorPluginManager.direct hasn't been found! please tell the 
maintainer.
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:971 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): FNP port created on 0.0.0.0:31766
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:43:977 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating node...
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:124 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Testnet mode DISABLED. You may 
have some level of anonymity. :)
Note that this version of Freenet is still a very early alpha, and may 
well have numerous bugs and design flaws.
In particular: YOU ARE WIDE OPEN TO YOUR IMMEDIATE DARKNET PEERS! They 
can eavesdrop on your requests with relatively little difficulty at 
present (correlation attacks etc).
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:44:158 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, NORMAL): Creating new node file from 
scratch
Jun 04, 2007 20:16:46:069 (freenet.node.Node, 
WrapperListener_start_runner, ERROR): Check your JVM settings 
especially the JCE!java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256 
MessageDigest not available

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

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> Should Freenet be started up before you
> attempt going to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ ?

In the Terminal (command line):

1/tmp>cd /Applications/Freenet
2/Applications/Freenet>./run.sh start
Starting Freenet 0.7...
3/Applications/Freenet>

Is that a successful Freenet startup? Is that the way to do it -- using 
the command line? Still, following the instructions in the welcome.html 
file to go to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ results in "Firefox can't 
establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:."

Maybe "freenet.jar" (which is an alias file in the Freenet folder) does 
it? Double clicking on that result in a window:

Jar Launcher

The jar file "freenet-stable-lates.jar" couldn't be launched. Check the 
Consode for possible error messages. Does that mean the Console app? If 
so the Console says:

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
com/sleepycat/je/DatabaseException
2007-06-04 21:33:18.884 Jar Launcher[769] CFLog (20): Jar Launcher:  
The jar file "freenet-stable-latest.jar" couldn't be launched. Check 
the Console for possible error messages

Hmm, that's good, we're in the Console looking at the "console.log" 
file. How can I check the Console any further?

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

How come the welcome.html file tells me to open 
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ when there is not a single file on my 
machine called wizard or that has the word wizard in it? Should there 
be?

How come the welcome.html says:

> Freenet 0.7 Installation Successful!
>
> Next, configure your node and connect your node to the network.
> The next step is to access the First time wizard.  ...

and doesn't say anything about making sure Freenet is started up and 
how to go about starting it up? Should Freenet be started up before you 
attempt going to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ ? Once installed, does 
that automatically start up Freenet? Does Freenet stay started up or 
does it shut down after a while? Does it shut down and need starting up 
again after you restart you machine?

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

Maybe it's a firewall/NAT issue?

I actually have no idea if I'm behind a firewall/NAT or not I'm afraid.  
I'm connected to the net via a home broadband connection which goes  
into an ADSL ethernet modem, to an Airport (wireless) base station, to  
my laptop. Some people have told me "your base station is not a  
firewall" and others have told me "your base station acts as a  
firewall". That's why I have no idea if I'm behind a firewall or not.  
In the Sharing system preferences panel I have the firewall (which is a  
software one on my machine I think) turned off, and there are no  
firewall settings turned on or off on the base station that I'm aware  
of.

So whether the base station is causing me to not be able to connect to  
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ I'm not sure. Freenet's help docs are not  
helping. Assuming the base station is acting as a firewall/NAT, here  
 it says:

> How do I get freenet working with a Firewall/NAT?
...
> Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connections to the   
> node.listenPort number (You can find it in a file called freenet.ini  
> in the freenet folder), to the same port on your computer (you will  
> probably need to know your computer's  internal IP address which will  
> often begin with 192.168.x.x). Remember that freenet 0.7 uses UDP.

There is no such information in the freenet.ini file from what I can  
tell. This is what that file looks like:

node.updater.enabled=true
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/// 
Applications/Freenet/plugins/Librarian.jar;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/// 
Applications/Freenet/plugins/UPnP.jar;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/// 
Applications/Freenet/plugins/ 
JSTUN.jar;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:///Applications/ 
Freenet/plugins/MDNSDiscovery.jar;
fproxy.enabled=true
fproxy.port=
fcp.enabled=true
fcp.port=9481
console.enabled=true
console.port=2323
fproxy.enabled=true
fproxy.port=
fcp.enabled=true
fcp.port=9481
console.enabled=true
console.port=2323


Any help / suggestions as to why it's not possible for me to access  
http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/ would be much appreciated.

Ben.

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Re: [freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

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On Monday, June 4, 2007, at 08:22  pm, Ben Dougall wrote:

> At a couple of points it attempted to load the welcome.html file in a
> browser (I think).

I say "I think" there because it used something I haven't come across 
before: some Java browser thing, then in BBEdit (a text editor). It 
just failed to open it up in an actual web browser because I have .html 
files associated with BBEdit -- I think that's what happened there -- 
so is a non issue.

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[freenet-support] unable to get Freenet going on OS X 10.2.8

[Ben Dougall]

Hi,

I am unable to get Freenet 0.7 going at all in Mac OS X 10.2.8, Java 
1.4.1.

I've tried a number of ways. The most recent way is the "Install 
Freenet 0.7 using JavaWebStart." option under Mac OSX on this page 
.

It went through the installation process and I think installed OK.

At a couple of points it attempted to load the welcome.html file in a 
browser (I think). Here's what's in the Freenet folder (some of which 
are folders, contents of not shown):

bin
freenet-ext.jar
freenet-ext.jar.sha1
freenet-stable-latest.jar
freenet-stable-latest.jar.sha1
freenet.ini
freenet.jar
frost
frost.zip
frost.zip.sha1
jSite
lib
LICENSE.Freenet
LICENSE.Mantissa
logs
plugins
README
run.sh
Thaw
Uninstaller
update.sh
update.sh.sha1
welcome.html
wrapper.conf
wrapper.log


Opening the welcome.html file in Firefox 2 I'm told the first thing to 
do is go to http://127.0.0.1:/wizard/

Attempting to access that address (and a number of others that I've 
tried, localhost: instead of that IP number, 10.0.1.2:, and the 
address that going to a "what is my ip address" page gives with : 
on the end) fails.

Any ideas what might make Freenet work ?

Thanks, Ben.

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