Re: [Sursound] Wireless Solutions for Binaural Event

2016-02-22 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
gt; >>> might > > >>> be a bit of fun - make it a bit theatrical and at the begining get > > >>> everyone > > >>> to press "play" on their mp3 player at exactly the same time - not > the > > >>> most > > >&g

Re: [Sursound] Wireless Solutions for Binaural Event

2016-02-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
> On 21 February 2016 at 09:11, Augustine Leudar > wrote: > > > Seinheizer in ear monitor units are about the best. Youd need to test one > > pair first though with walls etc > > > > > > On 21 February 2016 at 07:32, Bo-Erik Sandholm > > wrote: > >

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.sursound/1969/focus=1972 This is a good mail from 2011 from our guru Fons, 6 speakers for horizontal FOA. Bosse On 21 Feb 2016 08:55, "Bo-Erik Sandholm" wrote: > > http://search.gmane.org/?query=number+of+speakers+&a

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-20 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
ubject of the discussion. BR Bosse On 20 Feb 2016 20:55, "David Pickett" wrote: > At 19:53 20-02-16, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: > > >It has been verified by listening test that for FOA it is optimal to not > >have too many speakers in the horizontal ring. Look at old mails

Re: [Sursound] Wireless Solutions for Binaural Event

2016-02-20 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Maybe a FM receiver on the earphones and one or more low power FM transmitters? Or maybe Just search for FM transmitter with google. You could use several on same frequency maybe, or just connect several external antennas antennas to the device. Solution depends on your prison :-) BR Bo-Erik On 2

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-20 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Fons calculated a 2 - 6 - 2 (floor - horisontal - roof) for me that might be even better as a 4-6-4 when used for FOA. It has been verified by listening test that for FOA it is optimal to not have too many speakers in the horizontal ring. Look at old mails in the list. I only have FOA to listen t

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-01 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
http://hackaday.com/2016/02/01/ftdi-drivers-break-fake-chips-again/ In the near future serial over USB with windows might be flaky. Bo-Erik On 1 Feb 2016 21:53, "Bo-Erik Sandholm" wrote: > Standard aliexpress Bluetooth module v2.0+edr have a data rate of 2.1 > Mbit/s > It i

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-01 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
f you are thinking wireless headphones, remember the latency that that > introduces. I find my everyday bluetooth headset, built for music, is > useless for VR because of latency. And if you headphones are going to be > wired, then running that extra USB might not be too bad. > > Dav

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-01 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Apperently there exists a head tracking specialized version of the bno055 called bno070 - but I cannot find a place to buy this. you can get up to 250 samples / second from that version. Matthias did not complain about the update rate with the DIY headtracker http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthr

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-01-31 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I am not really very structured and gets distracted easily, in this experiment the final hardware setup is not decided, currently my software structure thinking is like this. OSC for the protocol as most available Ambisonics sw is VST's for PC or Mac and Reaper accepts OSC for controls. If done ri

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public. (was: Never do math in public...)

2016-01-31 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Jan 2016 16:58, "Marc Lavallée" wrote: > > Warning: the discussion is drifting to DIY electronic gadgetry. :) > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 11:16:26 +0100, > Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote : > > > I have decided to simplify the DIY head tracking dongle build and > > s

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-31 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I have decided to simplify the DIY head tracking dongle build and setup in some aspects, now I have ordered this sensor that do not need initial calibration. This is the new sensor module: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-neopixel-uberguide/overview It will initially be combined with a esp8266

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-30 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://notendur.hi.is/~spagnols/pubbl/ICSV_2015.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj-se-KwtLKAhUFwHIKHYX6CWAQFgg1MAk&usg=AFQjCNHQlgAIQgBkfCsP-bA8Vop-ww0wYg&sig2=lrdagh2wB-trUTu6EJr7aA These guys have almost certainly the knowledge in how to create a head tracking c

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-30 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
G1of-PjBA I have not rad all of it. Bo-Erik On 30 Jan 2016 22:34, "Bo-Erik Sandholm" wrote: > A paper on the importance of shoulder reflections and torso diffraction in > lower frequencies for elevation cues. > Sadly no data for impact of torso turning in relation to the head.

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-30 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
A paper on the importance of shoulder reflections and torso diffraction in lower frequencies for elevation cues. Sadly no data for impact of torso turning in relation to the head. https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://interface.cipic.ucdavis.edu/pubs/ICASSP_Mar_1999.pdf&ved=0a

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-28 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I do understand that HOA can represent resolution of directivity in the mathematic domain better than FOA. But I am starting to suspect we are overworking something when we are talking of order 8 to 15? Is it realistic to even think of measuring individual HRTF response with that angle resolution?

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-27 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
As Fons have done optimisations in the low frequency range up to a few hundred hertz resulting resulting in shorter HRIRs. Any comment on the possibility of ignoring the individual impact is of ear shape above 4kHz in a HRTF? Would that not also simplify coding to binaural? Or at least simplifying

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-25 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Does recording with in ear mics work for you? Have you tried listening for a long time with closed eyes of in the dark? Stereo listening is known to work better in the dark when the sight does not interfere with the soundscape. On 25 Jan 2016 15:11, "David Pickett" wrote: > At 13:40 25-01-16, Chr

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-25 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
using this? I think the shoulder compensation is something that have not been done. As far as I know all binaural encodings are done using data sets with a fixed head and shoulder position. Best regards Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm -- next part -- An HTML attachment was

Re: [Sursound] YouTube adds ambisonics support

2016-01-15 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
In my opinion you should NOT try to make it all in one go. Release first with basic functionality, in this case the HOT thing is binaural What you have is MUCH better than anything else available. Clean up what you have and make it available as a open source project, As what you have done is somet

Re: [Sursound] HRTF optimization by using tones/noise?

2015-12-29 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
To get yorur feet wet, try ambiexplorer app on a Phone or tablet with some downloaded ambisonic files. As I understand it you can choose from The included hrtfs with variation based on head width between The ears. According to ericsson media lab staff this is one of The most important parameters.

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-13 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Even stereo works better when you cannot see the loudspeakers :-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ___ Surso

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-13 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
phone on your own. > > http://www.vvaudio.com/synthbinaural > http://www.vvaudio.com/sites/vvaudio7/files/VVUnityDemo.apk_.zip > > David McGriffy > VVAudio > > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Augustine Leudar < > augustineleu...@gmail.com > > wrote: > &

Re: [Sursound] vertical precedence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-13 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
in tomten 😁 (Swedish for Santa Claus) Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm Retired Network Security guy 😉 in Sweden -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20151

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-13 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Tried to formulate it like this exactly: Above 4 kHz individual hrtf's are very difficult to create. Generic HRTF transformation can (should) be used for 4kHz and upwards. Best Regards Bo-Erik On Dec 12, 2015 10:19 PM, "Stefan Schreiber" wrote: > Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: >

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-11 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
s up and down, and > horizontally with a wii controller - it worked quite well but we did cheat > a little by just making sounds more high pitched when they went upwards as > well as convolving them with directional bands but this wouldn't work with > all sounds. > > On 11 D

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-11 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
ement. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm Amateur ambisonic recordist Interest in sound reproduction since beginning of 1960's. Ex Network Engineer and unix system manager Not a Programmer now for 35 years :-) 2015-12-10 21:05 GMT+01:00 Joseph Anderson : > I'd just add he

Re: [Sursound] Brahma first experience

2015-12-07 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Please try the http://reaper.fm Daw, there exists a number of templates and tutorials for ambisonics in reaper. It is low cost and you can try it out for free. Bo-Erik On Dec 7, 2015 5:48 PM, "Emanuele Costantini" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I would like to share with you my first experience wit

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-06 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Many of us in The current discussion participated in an earlier discussion about The importance of head tracking around 9 months ago, so that is more or less understood :-) Best regards Bo-Erik Den 6 dec 2015 19:48 skrev "Stefan Schreiber" : > Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 06

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-06 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
When you think about it, that should have been a natural conclusion, the physical distance from source to the ears do change very little when the source move in height. I believe there is only at most 2 generic effects on the sound input to the brain when a sound source moves in height. - the r

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-05 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
od student programmer to integritet the available software parts to crate first proof of concept with VR video inluding first order ambisonics. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/pri

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-04 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
http://www.williamsonic.com/DipoleMic/ as often I am too fast to post :-) I found the article again on a practical differential microphone for DIY. Regards Bo-Erik 2015-12-04 20:46 GMT+01:00 Bo-Erik Sandholm : > > I came to think about a software written by Angelo Farina a long ti

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-04 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I came to think about a software written by Angelo Farina a long time ago http://pcfarina.eng.unipr.it/Public/B-format/Software/Crux7toBform.exe this is for 7 omni mics, one in the center on a cross created by x y z direction placed omni mic pairs placed the same distance from the center element.

Re: [Sursound] First post: Hi from Stockholm, Sweden

2015-12-01 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
At least one more. I have done a number of recordings with a coresound mic and recently using aTascam DR-640. We could meet and talk, I am at the moment free from having to work. My email adress is bosses...@gmail.com Best regards Bo-Erik Sandholm On Dec 1, 2015 3:02 PM, "Magnus Lindström-Kol

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-19 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
There is very good availability of speakers that are low Cost and designed for 80Hz and upp... They usually come in 5 pack and include one sub woofer ☺ The are usually not powered except for The subwoofer. I use Kef eggs... The decoding of low frequency signals is not really relevant for small venu

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
an intermediate version), when I realize how a web player could be done. So, the real project is ambisonia.com with a player... -- Marc >      From: Bo-Erik Sandholm >  To: Surround Sound discussion group >  Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015, 8:54 >  Subject: Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
uld be done. So, the real project is ambisonia.com with a player... -- Marc > From: Bo-Erik Sandholm > To: Surround Sound discussion group > Sent: Monday, 25 May 2015, 8:54 > Subject: Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz > > http://elevr.com/audio-for-vr-film/ > They

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
" way? Best Regards Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Bo-Erik Sandholm Sent: den 25 maj 2015 09:00 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz Hi Marc How hard is it for you to take it one st

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
wanted :-) - and the ultimate version is of course Stereoscopic video , Ideas around this can be seen here http://elevr.com/audio-for-vr-film/ and they have even heard of ambisonics but have only fixed stereo so far but 3D surround video Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original

Re: [Sursound] Converting 16 mic array recording to B format

2015-05-17 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
archipelago. Most of them can be distributed within this group and the ambisonic community if someone is interested and wants to listen. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Curtis Alcock Sent: den 14 maj 2015 12:33

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 82, Issue 2

2015-05-13 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
If I remember correctly there was a fortran program written by Angelo Farina that could recover a ambisonic signal in 2 dimensions from a 5 microphone X setup. I mic in center and 4 mics in a square around that. I guess we could use just omni 4 mic's in a cross to get the needed information f

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com - SUB frequency range

2015-04-22 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
t cavity resonances - cannot directly perceive the direction of low frequency sounds, even the best subs distort producing higher frequency components and there is always the possibility (read near certainty in any real rig) that something will rattle which definitely will be localisable. Dave

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com - SUB frequency range

2015-04-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
The sound pressure derivate or wave front difference from 2 close ( 1-4 meters) for a pair of subs (or 3 or 4 ) are not detectable - and where can you get a stereo/ambisonic signal that contains those timer differences? I am building my rig using KEF Eggs from KHT-2005 setups. Bo-Erik San

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics decoder to hrtf with VR support

2015-03-09 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
headtracked video but not headtracked sound. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Tobix Sent: den 9 mars 2015 13:44 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics decoder to hrtf with VR

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics decoder to hrtf with VR support

2015-03-09 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
sion "SEN-10724" (HMC5883L magnetometer) BR Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Tobix Sent: den 9 mars 2015 12:12 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: [Sursound] Ambisonics decoder to hrtf with VR support Hello, I am

Re: [Sursound] Most convincing B-Format to binaural transcoding

2015-02-04 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Can you compare this to the modified csound used in the ambiexplorer for android. Best Regards Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Garth Sent: den 3 februari 2015 17:22 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] M

Re: [Sursound] Iosono Proximity: A new and refreshing approach to code/represent audio distance cues?

2014-12-03 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I think that one impact that usually is not taken in to consideration in recreation of near field listening is that head shadowing is more noticeable for high frequencies and the longer time delay to the far ear as a longer path around the head needs to be traverse than for a plane wave coming f

Re: [Sursound] Molding ears / head - materials

2014-11-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
The resulting head should probably be in Latex, how to take the original imprint ? maybe plaster of paris? Or your mask making makeup department students should know :-) BR Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Lasse Munk Sent: den

Re: [Sursound] Natural sound source to calibrate playback level

2014-11-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
This is also a really good test for binaural recording and replay! Can you get the sound to be outside of your head when playing back the recording via external sound isolating earphones? Does it help to rub your hand together when listening to the recording? - Bo-Erik -Original Message

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambisonic Audio Available?

2014-11-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
ough for today... Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Sampo Syreeni Sent: den 26 november 2014 04:36 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambison

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambisonic Audio Available?

2014-11-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
o the line running through the ears? > > > > > > > > > Dr Peter Lennox > > > > > > School of Technology, > > > Faculty of Arts, Design and Technology University of Derby, UK > > > e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk > > > t: 01332 593155 >

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambisonic Audio Available?

2014-11-20 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
with the best resolution in the forwards listening sphere for optimization? Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm Sweden -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of dw Sent: den 20 november 2014 00:02 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambisonic Audio Available?

2014-11-19 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
This is the competition for ambisonics in VR recording of real world event, I "love" the shape of the camera/microphone! And it is not even a joke. http://www.vr-gaming.co.uk/oculus-rift-vrsfx-binaural-audio-pitch-perfect-presence/ - Bo-Erik ___ Sursoun

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambisonic Audio Available?

2014-11-18 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
?id=net.hcenteno.ambiexplorer with your phone as a sensor or external Bluetooth sensor. Good luck to you and hope your effort with this project result in a Oculus Rift driver and software compbination that can freely be used by the exploding VR community. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandh

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambisonic Audio Available?

2014-11-17 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
As I in the last year have had an interest in listening to tetramic FOA recordings over head phones with head tracking, and in that context been thinking of listening to other recordings with head tracking I want to comment. > To me this demo is really cool since the auditory objects are nicely

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Rift Visual Demo + Ambisonic Audio Available?

2014-11-12 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Here you can find a few "Oculus rifted" video files - maybe you can extract the static sound channels and map them in to a ambisonic track that can be listened to with headtracking. http://elevr.com/audio-for-vr-film/ Can you modify this player to support a .amb sound track ? and let it out to

Re: [Sursound] The "BUCKET LIST" for Ambisonics? - or only how to proceed with Head tracked Binaural listening directivity control ?

2014-11-04 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
why I looking in to binaural head tracked technology. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm Sweden -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Stefan Schreiber Sent: den 3 november 2014 20:21 To: kanka...@alivecinema.org; Surround Sound disc

[Sursound] The "BUCKET LIST" for Ambisonics? - or only how to proceed with Head tracked Binaural listening directivity control ?

2014-11-03 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
es with that... - Show how to integrate ambisonics in MKV files for bot creation and playback. - Upsampling of FOA for binaural decoding or do we already have that? - sorry Matthias i have not read and understood the internals of your AmbiX suite. Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm, Sweden As always, view

Re: [Sursound] �100,000 for 3D sound development

2014-10-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
> The system, intended for professional, as well as domestic use, will allow > people to convert 2D recordings into 3D sound reproduction. This is the goal ? - hard to do on already distributed recordings :-) - Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.e

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Cube reverberation attenuation with foam

2014-10-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Covering the corners - floor and walls + roof and walls with something diffusing or absorbing is probably the most important, a corner is a perfect for reflecting incoming sound back in source direction. After the corners come the other 90 degrees angles bit hey are not as critical, but a soft

Re: [Sursound] Help: Anyone know how to record elevation information when doing binaural recording?

2014-09-07 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
The cues might not be Head related, but they are definitely pinnae related :-) A peak in the high midrange elevates the sound, The effect can also be found as a "rainbow effect" when panning sound between Left and right when using loadspeakers not compensated for one of the stereo effects. Be

Re: [Sursound] Splitting a 10.2 file

2014-09-03 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
If it is a ordinary wav file, try to open it in Reaper :-) in a track defined for may channels. If it is a simple adjustment you can do it in repaer - or save the file as individual tracks -Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Aug

Re: [Sursound] [OT] The more bits the better ?

2014-08-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
-molt here you can find data on different masterings of Michal Jackson - thriller and Jennifer Warnes - Famous blue raincoat This will show the progression and consequenses of the loudness war on the same masters. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original Message- From: Sursound

Re: [Sursound] And now for something different...

2014-06-23 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Is there a way to get a personalized HRTF (or even one near mine) with out spending many hundreds of the coins of your choice or travelling to a distant destination? Is there a "standard format" for HRTFS that can be used in several softwares or even converted? I am partly involved in the effor

Re: [Sursound] parallella board

2014-05-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
http://www.altera.com/literature/an/an487.pdf Design examples on how to doit... -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Malham Sent: den 21 maj 2014 10:28 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] parallella board As it

Re: [Sursound] B-Format to Auro 3D

2014-05-12 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
If I remember correctly the Auro 3D is more or less 2 x 5.1 channels with the "upper" ring signal multiplexed in to the same channel as a Normal 5.1 signal. The 24 bit are used in a "Auro 3D magic" way to create a 5.1 signal that can be listened to in a normal surround system. So extracting sig

Re: [Sursound] DIY - Inexpensive USB multichannel sound card

2014-04-23 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Look what I found - it has a few years on the clock and looks good: USB to Multi Channel I2S USB2.0 24channels - proof of concept 8 channels https://sites.google.com/site/koonaudioprojects/usb-to-multi-channel-usb2-0 16 channel I2S differential dac - use 2 http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-li

Re: [Sursound] Inexpensive USB multichannel sound card

2014-04-17 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
eagle Bone (or Board) would not be tooo expensive. I actually have the bits to try it out but I'm too busy practising being retired ( and collecting Wharfedale Diamond V's) :-) Dave On 16 April 2014 11:31, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: > > I have surfed around and pondered o

Re: [Sursound] Inexpensive USB multichannel sound card

2014-04-16 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs4398.html 8 channels 117 db s/n Just a few places where it might be possible to find entry point if not everything is to be created out of nowhere. Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm -- http://www.xmos.com/en/startkit#D1WEaWZP http://www.diystompboxes

Re: [Sursound] Inexpensive USB multichannel sound card

2014-04-07 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Do we remember this? http://alsa.opensrc.org/TwoCardsAsOne http://quicktoots.linux-audio.com/toots/el-cheapo/ HW modification , sharing one x-tal Either just add 2 or 3 PCI or PCI-E soundcards to an old PC. OR building a "low cost pc" with 16 ( or 24 ) channels of sound outputs for around 150

Re: [Sursound] Inexpensive USB multichannel sound card

2014-03-31 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
/31/2014 09:14 AM, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: > Don't ignore the Chinese :-) > > http://www.dx.com/p/usb-2-0-7-1ch-optical-sound-card-audio-adapter-whi > te-orange-172008#.UzkSO4XtX5w 20 usd inc postage to EU > http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-2-0-CH-3D-7-1-Audio-8-Channel-So

Re: [Sursound] Inexpensive USB multichannel sound card

2014-03-31 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Don't ignore the Chinese :-) http://www.dx.com/p/usb-2-0-7-1ch-optical-sound-card-audio-adapter-white-orange-172008#.UzkSO4XtX5w 20 usd inc postage to EU http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-2-0-CH-3D-7-1-Audio-8-Channel-Sound-Card-External-Sound-Pocket-USR71/660029014.html 25 usd inc Postage to E

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-16 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I do neto succeed in listening to this in Stockholm Sweden, any one succeeding outside of UK? Bo-Erik ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Listening to FOA B-Format with head tracking

2014-01-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
15:17 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] Listening to FOA B-Format with head tracking On 26/01/14 16:04, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: > From blueripplesound website > http://www.blueripplesound.com/free-stuff > TOA Core VST Plugins > Yes, the entire TOA Core plugin library can

Re: [Sursound] Listening to FOA B-Format with head tracking

2014-01-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Re: [Sursound] Listening to FOA B-Format with head tracking Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: >Here are the TOA plugins >http://www.blueripplesound.com/products/toa-core-vst > >I am continuing with searching for the shortest way to the goal :-) > > I wasn't aware that the TOA (VST) plu

Re: [Sursound] Listening to FOA B-Format with head tracking

2014-01-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
ol the VST: TOA Rotate ( Blue ripple sound Limited ) This could be a very flexible standard way of connecting this head tracker to control a VST. Can anyone assist in modifying one of the software sources above to be able to read input data from a comport on a pc in the format above? Best Regar

[Sursound] Listening to FOA B-Format with head tracking

2014-01-19 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
other software than my take on this is welcome. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm Sweden ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] A gift for the 2014 Christmas?

2013-12-20 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
[mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Bo-Erik Sandholm Sent: den 20 december 2013 14:18 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: [Sursound] A gift for the 2014 Christmas? I this something that can be done? We still don't have a simple low cost ambisonic hardware player, for

[Sursound] A gift for the 2014 Christmas?

2013-12-20 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
RPI or XMOS multicore via I2S or other interface for DAC's. Similar solutions can of course be implemented with other platforms but the start setup without audio interfaces is low cost and almost plug and play :-) with this hardware setup. Best Regards Bo-

Re: [Sursound] Upcoming Android apps ambisonic related

2013-12-10 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
as a vst with control of directions via parameters. - Bo-Erik Sandholm Stockholm -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Hector Centeno Sent: den 10 december 2013 16:25 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: [Sursound] Upcoming Android apps

Re: [Sursound] VR and cheap headtracking in 2013...

2013-12-02 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Can you assist by pointing to a VST or standalone decoder that will accept for example MIDI input and give us a good headphone decoding of AMB files ? There are several ways of doing head tracking that we might be able to get to work if we have the back end already done ;-) Best Regards Bo-Erik

Re: [Sursound] New Ambisonic VST Plugins - follow up Question to Fons

2013-11-24 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
st Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Fons Adriaensen Sent: den 22 november 2013 22:20 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] New Ambisonic VST Plugins On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:19:58AM -0800, Aaron He

Re: [Sursound] New Ambisonic VST Plugins

2013-11-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
you Bo-Erik Sandholm Sweden -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Furse Sent: den 21 november 2013 14:14 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: [Sursound] New Ambisonic VST Plugins Hi there! In case folk aren't aware, th

Re: [Sursound] Linux ambdec b-format channel order - Player

2013-11-14 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Try to compile potamus a very simple player that can be modified to work as jack aware multichannel player. http://offog.org/code/potamus.html > Can it play back multichannel wav files ? In theory it should do, but it only creates two JACK output ports by default, so you'll need to change that

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Yes and in realtime, there is a video on youtube showing this, seart for martin kantola http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I32RW0sZqKQ Bosse -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Jon Honeyball Sent: den 14 november 2013 10:59 To: Surround Sou

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

2013-11-14 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I think I rememeber it is horizontal only and using xy cardeoids and syntesising the omni signal by taking the singals and adding with phase inverign for 2 signals. - Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Emanuele Sent: den 14 novem

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6

2013-11-07 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Hi you are better off creating normal DVD's with a picture and multichannel PCM sound, you can go 48khz 24 bits up to 8 channels :-) MODE Program mode is automatically determined by type of input: given wav or flac audio files, lplex creates an audio dvd. given a VIDEO_TS folder (or its parent)

Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic

2013-11-06 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I found this website comparing signal to noise on a lot of recording devices: http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm Seems they have at least used the same equipment to measure all the devices. - Bosse -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf O

Re: [Sursound] Making a standalone 8ch PLayer

2013-09-15 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Found a price indication on the other USB to I2S module, a bit high 250 Euro second hand :-) This is a bit more reasonable. http://www.amanero.com/ 79 Euro + vat and postage + Batches 60+ € 39 If we don't look in to assembling modules, then if someone does all the work for free, then the actua

Re: [Sursound] Making a standalone 8ch PLayer

2013-05-24 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Borrowing ideas from http://www.audiorail.com/faqs.htm#F4. for linking units might be a good idea. Will slow down and stop spamming the group for a while :-) - Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Michael C

Re: [Sursound] Making a standalone 8ch PLayer

2013-05-24 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
at playing ARM singlecard computer would be OK :-) Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Making a standalone 8ch player

2013-05-23 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
multichannel pcm stream. Preferably avoiding going via expensive intermediate interfaces. I thing a RPi as a multichannel player with simple interface to a FPGA based ambisonic decoder with loadbale speaker configurations would be a very neat thing. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use? - Eric's second order mic

2013-05-02 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
a low cost" syndrome as we see in a lot of places nowadays :-) I really enjoyed reading the paper. Best Regards Bo-Erik Sandholm -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Benjamin Sent: den 29 april 2013 22:08 To:

Re: [Sursound] What does a mic with more than 4 channels give you?

2013-04-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I would like to make the comment that is this part of the discussion we are well in to the psychoacoustic domain. There are not many, possibly only a very few models of loudspeakers that produces a sound pressure that even have a faint likeness to The electric input signal for example a square

Re: [Sursound] What speakers are you using in your Ambisonic setups?

2013-03-11 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I have been thinking about the configurations all based on the sphere and also with a a ring of 6 as recommended for horizontal fist degree configurations. I got Fons to make me a 2 - 6 - 2 decoder configuration, This due to the fact that I had the height available to do a 2 meter radius sphere,

Re: [Sursound] What speakers are you using in your Ambisonic setups?

2013-03-06 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Could these speakers be using Kef elements? Looks good. I myself is collecting second hand Kef "eggs" 2003.1 connecting them to low cost amps: http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=960 The amps might be a bit tricky: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/class-d/149088-sure-electronics-new-tripath

Re: [Sursound] A Thanks... And Another Post

2013-02-22 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
http://www.reaper.fm/ for Windows or MacOs osX low cost or 60 days evaluation. I recommend it. A multi channel DAW for multi channel playback/Recording or editing in combination with a MOTU traveler and a AD8000, I have that combination. Even linux can nowadays recognize the MOTU device with r

Re: [Sursound] Bi-Amping the B-format

2013-02-20 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Hi Actually it is not such a hard choice, the crossover frequency should be 80Hz. The choice of 80 Hz in home theater applications as something of a standard is not made so arbitrarily as you might guess. It has a sound basing in psychoacoustics and in the way our hearing works. The brain (reserva

Re: [Sursound] an exploratory mail

2013-01-24 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
e I think to be able to present a LIVE demo of a 3D sound system at the next session, even if only a small one. I was a bit disappointed that the 3D-Auro session was only in stereo :-), the being the only talk with any sound as far as I remember. Bo-Erik Sandholm Ambisonic hobby recorder.

Re: [Sursound] Array for sound field recording and extend the sound image

2013-01-09 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
An open paper on directional mics http://www.iwaenc.org/proceedings/2001/main/data/buck.pdf I had a idea that I could use 2 close mounted mics (o) for Upper frequency ranges and a longer distance between 2 additional elements (x) to have better signal to noise ratio for the lower frequency band

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