Re: [Sursound] 3D Array

2012-09-28 Thread Sampo Syreeni
* for it. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

2012-09-27 Thread Sampo Syreeni
. That assumption frequency-wise breaks down for highways especially at the lower end, a fact which environmental noise models already have to take note of. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] Question about plane waves, and the precedence effect

2012-09-22 Thread Sampo Syreeni
incident to the array. Which would be much weirder than the weirding in the original question. Quite without any psychoacoustic explanation... -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] Question about plane waves, and the precedence effect

2012-09-22 Thread Sampo Syreeni
Pulkki's research ever got to this one, but it too could be relevant, once again. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound

Re: [Sursound] microphone epiphany ?

2012-08-23 Thread Sampo Syreeni
the SoundField mic. Though of course four cardioids with a bit of signal processing already does it better, and has done so since the 70's. Cf. optimal Gaussian quadrature. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9

Re: [Sursound] OT: Yorkshire's success in 2012 Olympics

2012-08-13 Thread Sampo Syreeni
scientific prowess. If somebody took an Olympic medal, se'd better have a Nobel, a Fields and an Abel to balance it out before I'd consider hir even a fuckbuddy.) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] Super Stereo emulation (UHJ)

2012-07-23 Thread Sampo Syreeni
a Pro Logic decode does that, especially if it's Pro Logic IIx onto 7.1. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound

Re: [Sursound] Unpublished Gerzon paper

2012-07-22 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-07-23, Sampo Syreeni wrote: ultrasonics still possibly having some different, nonlinear pathway by which they might affect spatial hearing (e.g. by attacking the known-to-be-nonlinear and different dichotic transient detection pathway we have). If so, someone at Meridian at the time

Re: [Sursound] Digital spreaders

2012-06-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
networks could be even within the center/mid channel, nowadays. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-03 Thread Sampo Syreeni
meant to do something like this from teenage up. :) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https

Re: [Sursound] blindly identifying matrix encodings

2012-03-07 Thread Sampo Syreeni
accumulated long enough, ought to reveal the encoding. And this sort of thing doesn't require any source separation machinery, so it's dead simple, and probably quite robust. If it works well. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C

Re: [Sursound] Me again - on the H/HJ hunt

2012-03-07 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-03-07, Mark Anderson wrote: The UHJ Discography can be found here http://web.archive.org/web/20110513234453/http://members.cox.net/surround/in dex.htm Does anybody know whether/if the discography could be republished as part of the Ambisonic Motherlode? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy

[Sursound] blindly identifying matrix encodings

2012-03-06 Thread Sampo Syreeni
easily bumps into precision trouble. If we have to go this far, we'll have to recruit a numerical analyst as well.) Fons, does this seem like a research outline, already? :) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090

Re: [Sursound] Naive HOA Questions

2012-03-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
being given out as the minimum. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman

Re: [Sursound] Naive HOA Questions

2012-03-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-03-06, Sampo Syreeni wrote: rV can do with less. Those numbers are for rV and rE, simultaneously. You can't really do ambisonic without both working at the same time, so that's why those are the numbers being given out as the minimum. And sorry for being too terse; it's been awhile

Re: [Sursound] Me again - on the H/HJ hunt

2012-03-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
luota muhun referenssinä, tää tulee täysin takaraivosta taas. :) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu

[Sursound] bounding auditory measures against empirical fact

2012-02-20 Thread Sampo Syreeni
, or to derive new bounds ampirically? I'm pretty sure this sort of research could spawn a dissertation or two, even as a mere meta-analysis. If done right. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] Journal articles

2012-02-20 Thread Sampo Syreeni
arbitrage as well, you know. :) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic-Binaural piece using Brahma mic (was Re: Great responses to my post--thanks!)

2012-02-20 Thread Sampo Syreeni
, to see whether/what real data could be gleaned from it, and especially which further, more precise hypotheses it suggests for further study. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

[Sursound] preservation of relevant materials

2012-02-13 Thread Sampo Syreeni
parties wouldn't get what they want, at the same time... ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https

Re: [Sursound] Me again - on the H/HJ hunt

2012-02-13 Thread Sampo Syreeni
to distinguish as n grows. But I've never tried it, so this remains at the level of pure conjecture.) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing

Re: [Sursound] approximate solutions to the ambisonic decoding problem

2012-01-30 Thread Sampo Syreeni
reach, and it seems I'm losing my reach even to ASA/AES/IEEE/AMS, thanks to the nasty downturn in global economics... -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] about automatic identification of quad and (U)HJ

2012-01-30 Thread Sampo Syreeni
the SQ QS project, it's time i dealt with H/HJ once and for all. I'd obviously like a carbon copy of everything you find, since this is one bitch of an interesting problem. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9

[Sursound] approximate solutions to the ambisonic decoding problem

2011-12-23 Thread Sampo Syreeni
cooking in the oven for our traditional Christmas meal. Also wondering whether my parents will appreciate a full Twilight-saga for one of their presents. :) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] UHJ decoding and shelf filters

2011-12-17 Thread Sampo Syreeni
from the AES site? I am not a member, only curious. It is now present in the motherlode as http://decoy.iki.fi/dsound/ambisonic/motherlode/source/15665.pdf . -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] 64-bit VSTs?

2011-12-10 Thread Sampo Syreeni
accuracy for any need in an intermediate formate, and done right, it's both simple and perceptually speaking perfect. In fact so much so that you can actually work with the format in studio and never unearth the quantization noise-floor which lies beneath. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi

Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

2011-12-01 Thread Sampo Syreeni
sound, even if they play just fine otherwise. My setup is a laptop with mere stereo, over the newest version of XP, utilizing both the newest versions of VLC and WinAmp for playback. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494

Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release

2011-11-29 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-11-28, John Leonard wrote: So it does! DTS file in VLC, Metric Halo 2882 (or WHY) and streaming surround direct form the laptop! Excellent - thanks, Richard. You don't argue with empirical facts, then. Most of the time... -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http

Re: [Sursound] Greetings (and a newcomer's first submission)

2011-11-29 Thread Sampo Syreeni
. As in all of the BLaH work, it's got the all-important numbers clearly spelled out. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release

2011-11-26 Thread Sampo Syreeni
channels which don't quite fit the mask and would naturally round to the same channel. That's not going to happen with four channels, though, unless you're working with something like multichannel frontal stereo. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111

Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release

2011-11-25 Thread Sampo Syreeni
with fixed point representations of ambisonic mappings to stereo. That was years ago. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release

2011-11-25 Thread Sampo Syreeni
a matter of life, unfortunately. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman

Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release

2011-11-25 Thread Sampo Syreeni
at the logs and be assured of that. :) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu

Re: [Sursound] another patent

2011-10-28 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-09-15, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: It seems you can get a patent for anything, even if totally obvious and common practise.. - check out EP1558061A2 Don't even go there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_exercising_a_cat . -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-07 Thread Sampo Syreeni
white-space separated style. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman

Re: [Sursound] Blumlein Shuffler - beta testers wanted

2011-09-19 Thread Sampo Syreeni
like -- even if my hearing is a bit compromised. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https

[Sursound] [ot] another patent

2011-09-19 Thread Sampo Syreeni
not sure about if I want this. This is already idiotic, so I won't respond to it further. I don't think you would either. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] Blumlein Shuffler - beta testers wanted

2011-09-19 Thread Sampo Syreeni
to be somewhat off. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

[Sursound] ambisonic motherlode (redux)

2011-09-19 Thread Sampo Syreeni
tdcomments and/or extra information on the paper/td /tr That makes it easier for me to build the final Ambisonic Motherlode. Or at least its first version. After all, the final aim is to packetize it into a torrent, and let it loose in the wild. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http

Re: [Sursound] new technology?

2011-09-01 Thread Sampo Syreeni
problem in statistical correction techniques, and rather interesting if really applied to spatial AV as well. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound

[Sursound] subbass and bass reproduction in list hits

2011-08-06 Thread Sampo Syreeni
happening with pretty much everything on the RB chart right now. Why? Especially why so that the low bass isn't being steered to the middle, but is being processed in stereo? While pretty much nothing else even in the lead vocals is? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread Sampo Syreeni
be possible, but do we have it now? On Amazon, ready for delivery? I think not. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception

2011-07-31 Thread Sampo Syreeni
as coincident Blumlein does, and the main psychoacoustics happen on the decoder side, so that the only thing which really is mismatched is the encoding locus over the Scheiber sphere. With intensity panned stereo, it isn't that far off if you look at it... -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-31 Thread Sampo Syreeni
stabilisation, you'll be feeding all of your internal cards from your PC's bus clock. In theory -- and just in theory -- that should make them deterministic enough to be synched sample accurately. Even using delay settings in common software, or whatnot. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi

[Sursound] [meta] about the level of discussion, and accessibility

2011-07-28 Thread Sampo Syreeni
shouldn't apologize unless they royally fucked up. Instead they should use those two lines to pose an interesting question. And of course the next half a decade to become the guru in the guru's place. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception

2011-07-26 Thread Sampo Syreeni
, my cables are multistrand ones with approximately that cross-sectional area per polarity. But not because of some esoteric, audiophile reason. It's because that's what they sell the cheapest as speaker cable in my local shop. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi

Re: [Sursound] the recent 2-channel 3D sound formats and their viability for actual 360 degree sound

2011-07-24 Thread Sampo Syreeni
the problem is squarely in that the higher order components can't be fully suppressed, but fold into the mix. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] the recent 2-channel 3D sound formats and their viability for actual 360 degree sound

2011-07-24 Thread Sampo Syreeni
directional aliasing terms would reach upto 6-8th order. Especially because, as you pointed out for quadrupoles, the sensitivity goes up exponentially. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] the recent 2-channel 3D sound formats and their viability for actual 360 degree sound

2011-07-24 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-07-25, Sampo Syreeni wrote: Especially because, as you pointed out for quadrupoles, the sensitivity goes up exponentially. Actually to be more exact, isn't the increase something like quadratic in order? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50

Re: [Sursound] the recent 2-channel 3D sound formats and their viability for actual 360 degree sound

2011-07-21 Thread Sampo Syreeni
dictated by the first order basis functions (when thought of as spherical convolution kernels). The only minor nit is that synthetic panning needs a bit more refinement for near sources that wasn't being handled by the older literature. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi

Re: [Sursound] Fwd: Bass Problem in crosstalk cancellation

2011-06-11 Thread Sampo Syreeni
in audio research, and also highlight what has happened on-list? I'm pretty sure if I didn't like that, any newbie on sursound would kill for hearing it. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] 3D audio event in Italy

2011-01-21 Thread Sampo Syreeni
to your system's specifications, research papers, extant software and example recordings? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?

2011-01-21 Thread Sampo Syreeni
your psychoacoustical model -- the thing that really cut the hard requirements even with POA, enabling it to sound good enough at mere four channels. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2

Re: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?

2011-01-21 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-01-18, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: 1 degree phase error at 14 kHz corresponds to 0.067 mm at the speed of sound. Are your pinnae that stable ? Fons has it right, here. At HF, minute phase errors really, really don't matter. At all. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http

Re: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?

2011-01-20 Thread Sampo Syreeni
in an AES paper, arguing for non-linear-phase D/A converters. (Not quite sure about that though.) In any case, if you have to optimize, I'd say it could pay off to look into purely IIR, differentially matched designs which forgo aggregate phase linearity. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi

Re: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?

2011-01-20 Thread Sampo Syreeni
of the problem for you. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?

2011-01-17 Thread Sampo Syreeni
myself some considerable time :-) The joke aside... Why don't we know this stuff beforehand? I mean, why aren't all the newest coefficients out in the open in an easy-to-use form? -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0

Re: [Sursound] 3DAA | Audio Alliance

2010-12-26 Thread Sampo Syreeni
interest: *if* an open standard can be agreed upon which e.g. supports WFS, people will bump into ancillary Iosono patents and Dolby relabelled/trademarked actual implementations in any case. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494

Re: [Sursound] Hamasaki 22.2

2010-11-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front +358-50-5756111, 025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2 ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

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