Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2014-03-18 Thread Aaron Heller
On the 2L recordings I heard at the workshop, Lindberg used a combination of 1/2in and 1in DPA omnis, similar to what is shown here: http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/2L/3.html If I remember correctly, Bowles and Geluso were working with (more or less) coincident arrays built with the Senn

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2014-03-18 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/18/2014 03:39 PM, John Leonard wrote: Anyone experienced/used/bought this yet? http://www.auro-3d.com/ yes, yes, no, but designed a playback system for it and got the t-shirt. my gripe: technically it is just as boring as 5.1, repeating every single mistake. what i like: it's immensely

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2014-03-18 Thread John Leonard
The mic rig that I've seen on the Tonsturm site (http:www.tonsturm.com) consists of five Schoeps omnis and then four Schoeps wide cardioids about a metre above them, which doesn't really seem that groundbreaking to me. But, as always, I'm happy to be proved wrong. Worth keeping an eye on, thou

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2014-03-18 Thread Aaron Heller
There were three 'with height' workshops at the 2012 AES meeting in San Francisco* that featured an Aura 3D playback setup. David Bowles (Swineshead) and Paul Geluso (NYU) played some recordings that were quite nice -- height in front, with convention surrounds -- but the remainder, including rec

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2014-03-18 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
Looks like the 5.1 insanity put on steroids... ...but I'd love to be surprised; not betting on it however, given how thin on theory and how thick on hype the site is. Sent from a crippled mobile device > On 18 Mar 2014, at 15:39, John Leonard wrote: > > Anyone experienced/used/bought this yet?

[Sursound] Auro 3D

2014-03-18 Thread John Leonard
Anyone experienced/used/bought this yet? http://www.auro-3d.com/ Regards, John ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-17 Thread Dave Malham
Hi, It does all really depend on what full gain on the amps gives you - and what the mixer can put out. On a properly matched system where the amplifiers at full gain result in the nominal maximum output of the mixer being such as to just drive the speakers fully, this is fine. If setting full g

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-15 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-13, Dave Hunt wrote: http://www.auro-technologies.com/uploads/Auro3D-Octopus-White-Paper-v2-7-2017.pdf Will read. If ambisonic relevant, will put into Motherlode in time. It concludes that although 24-bit operation is advantageous for audio creation purposes it is inadvisable

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-15 Thread John Leonard
I'm not. But also, this way of working is fine if the system is well designed. With some rental companies, this is not always the case. John On 15 Oct 2012, at 20:16, Andrew Horsburgh wrote: > If we're not talking about rock, metal, pop, electronic or dance music - then > perhaps maximum isn'

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-15 Thread Andrew Horsburgh
rom: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Jörn Nettingsmeier [netti...@stackingdwarves.net] Sent: 14 October 2012 00:09 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D On 10/13/2012 06:43 PM, David Pickett wrote: > At 05:51 13/10/2012, D

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/14/2012 01:09 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 10/13/2012 06:43 PM, David Pickett wrote: At 05:51 13/10/2012, Dave Hunt wrote: I have long been dubious of the common practice of turning all PA amplifiers up to full and doing all level adjustments prior to that, often at the mixer. This i

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/13/2012 06:43 PM, David Pickett wrote: At 05:51 13/10/2012, Dave Hunt wrote: I have long been dubious of the common practice of turning all PA amplifiers up to full and doing all level adjustments prior to that, often at the mixer. This increases the gain of system noise, hums etc. It can

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Michael Chapman
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 05:26:57PM -, Michael Chapman wrote: > >> Because the knobs on the amp's are at the other end of the >> room (or if not there, it would mean bending one's back). > > Modern PA gear is remote-controlled and monitored. And even if > not, that's no excuse :-) > No, no, n

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread John Leonard
Non-existent on the systems I'm talking about. John On 13 Oct 2012, at 20:16, "Dan" wrote: > Level control will be done on the DSP managing the speakers. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/surs

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Dan
Andrews -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of John Leonard Sent: 13 October 2012 19:53 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D Most commonly, I've come across this in PA systems hired

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread John Leonard
Most commonly, I've come across this in PA systems hired in by performers: the most heinous being that of a concert for a friend of mine, where the balance engineer (a studio engineer, not a live sound one, which didn't help) could barely lift the faders without the system going into feedback. W

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Jascha Narveson
Yeah - can you name some venues that do this? I want to know which ones to avoid! On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:43 PM, David Pickett wrote: > At 05:51 13/10/2012, Dave Hunt wrote: > >> I have long been dubious of the common practice of turning all PA >> amplifiers up to full and doing all level adj

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 05:26:57PM -, Michael Chapman wrote: > Because the knobs on the amp's are at the other end of the > room (or if not there, it would mean bending one's back). Modern PA gear is remote-controlled and monitored. And even if not, that's no excuse :-) Ciao, -- FA A wor

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Michael Chapman
> At 05:51 13/10/2012, Dave Hunt wrote: > >>I have long been dubious of the common practice of turning all PA >>amplifiers up to full and doing all level adjustments prior to that, >>often at the mixer. This increases the gain of system noise, hums >>etc. It can also mean that the mixer is working

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread David Pickett
At 05:51 13/10/2012, Dave Hunt wrote: I have long been dubious of the common practice of turning all PA amplifiers up to full and doing all level adjustments prior to that, often at the mixer. This increases the gain of system noise, hums etc. It can also mean that the mixer is working at a fair

[Sursound] Auro 3D

2012-10-13 Thread Dave Hunt
Hi, I've never heard Auro 3D, though it does seem to have some adherents. I haven't waded through all of their "Auro3D-Octopus-White-Paper" but found the first nine pages thought provoking. http://www.auro-technologies.com/uploads/Auro3D-Octopus-White-Paper- v2-7-2017.pdf It conclude

Re: [Sursound] Auro-3D (Eero Aro)

2010-11-27 Thread Luigi Agostini
...I do not want to put more gasoline on fire, but since 2001 we do 3D audio with real time ITD, Doppler, HF Damping, Elevation, source direction, obscuration and so on, on any number of speakers comprised by 8 and 64, any position in space, MIDI or internal automation on paths, no compressio

Re: [Sursound] Auro-3D

2010-11-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 11/27/2010 12:00 AM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:28:27PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > >> let's hope we can surf the wake and profit from the general interest in >> with-height sound reproduction and get some people to ask the right >> questions. > > First que

Re: [Sursound] Auro-3D

2010-11-26 Thread fons
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:28:27PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > let's hope we can surf the wake and profit from the general interest in > with-height sound reproduction and get some people to ask the right > questions. First question: how does it compare to 3h1v ? Ciao, -- FA There are

Re: [Sursound] Auro-3D

2010-11-26 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 11/26/2010 07:36 PM, Eero Aro wrote: > Some like to do it the hard way: > > http://auro-3d.com/index.html it's all the rage here at tonmeistertagung. the good thing is: there are some industry heavyweights pulling in the same direction, so they might just make it happen. i think that scheme is

Re: [Sursound] Auro-3D

2010-11-26 Thread Helmut Oellers
...there is written at page two "sounds coming from everywhere around and above the listener" That's the problem. We are surrounded, not include in the sound. Really immersive solutions are existing today, per example search "holophony" in Google. Regards, Helmut 2010/11/26 Eero Aro > Some l

Re: [Sursound] Auro-3D

2010-11-26 Thread Joern Rune Kviserud
Quite interesting, but I since height perception can be coded into normal channels it seems like a lot of work to gain very little. Joern Rune Kviserud Midgard Audio Den 26.11.2010 19:36, skrev Eero Aro: Some like to do it the hard way: http://auro-3d.com/index.html sic Eero ___

[Sursound] Auro-3D

2010-11-26 Thread Eero Aro
Some like to do it the hard way: http://auro-3d.com/index.html sic Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound