Is that a hint to update the progress?
Give me time
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I wouldn't bank on receipts for crude glycerin to make a business plan
work.
In house refining or conversion maybe.
That's what I'm being told, so I'm looking into products FROM glycerine
that have a larger market and/or higher market value. Acrolein
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Hello,
Can you use ethanol, instead of methanal, to crack the oil to make
biodiesel?
any web link to the process would be helpful too.. thank you in advance.
DC
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You don't have to raise the compression to run ethanol but you can if you
want to. You can run a higher compression ratio using ethanol especially if
your engine has an aluminum head.
What are the advantages for higher compression? simply more power or, as
someone stated, better mileage?
This
Marc, and anyone else intereted in easy stills,
the Stillmaker site is very nice looking, and has some good advice and
general info. However, the still has at least one major design flaw.
Do NOT put the second cooling line through the bottom of the tower.
It's a total waste of time and energy
Grendel writes:
You don't have to raise the compression to run ethanol but you can if you
want to. You can run a higher compression ratio using ethanol especially
if
your engine has an aluminum head.
What are the advantages for higher compression? simply more power or, as
someone stated, better
Thought you might find this interesting
Kirk
Beware of Canola Oil, Canola Oil is an Industrial Oil, Not Fit For Human
Consumption.
S
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Here is a summary of a few facts regarding Canola Oil:
It is genetically engineered rapeseed.
Canada paid the FDA the sum of $50 million to have
Um...Canola is not GM, and is not rapeseed, and the effects and profiles are
not the same as for rapeseed or as for mustard seed.
Take a look at:
http://www.canola-council.org/
and read the section on Truth /Myths about Canola
Ed B.
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Hello,
Can you use ethanol, instead of methanal, to crack the oil to make
biodiesel?
any web link to the process would be helpful too.. thank you in advance.
DC
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Im not saying there is hole.. not saying there isnt..
not saying global warming exists..not saying it doesnt.
All I know is that in the late 70s.. they were talking about us going into
an ice age..
studies and readings said so...
because they thought the pollution in the atmosphere was
Marc,
Are you refering to the StillMaker design ?
The site for it is http://stillmaker.dreamhost.com
I also have a copy of it on my site;
http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_distiller/still.pdf
I also have other plans for stills, both pot and reflux; see
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol compression/mileage
You don't have to raise the compression to run ethanol but you can if you
want to. You can run a higher compression ratio
The major source of influence is the output of the sun.
Also weather does not constitute climate change.
Pollution is not good but it is important to keep a perspective on the
situation.
If the atmosphere was an Olympic size swimming pool full of vodka the
fluorocarbon concentration would be the
David said:
In any case, if the water retains certain magnetism, why it's not
possible to be detected with a compass for example?
I've read studies regarding the retained memory of water, but don't
recall where they were published. Perhaps a web search would turn up
references. It seems like
I am new to the list so please forgive the newbie question. I have been
trying to research wether or not I can run straight ethanol in my 99 dodge
dakota. Everything I am finding on the Internet regarding ethanol refers to
certain cars that have the ability to run gas and E85. I also tried to
I agree with you John and your comment on Steve.
Doug
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Steve
I have been lurking here four several months, I
You might want to visit your local race track. The
racers often set up thier engines to run on a fuel of
primarily alcohol and would not only know if and how
it could be done but may have specialty parts sources.
Dana Linscott
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OK folks,
I have done a little research on screw presses for oil
extraction and a little research like a little
knowledge is dangerous...so I would like some
feedback.
This point I know:
That a roller mill is more appropriate for oil
extraction than a hammer mill.
That an optimum screw
Ahhh shoot.. Now I have no heat.. ;-( hehehe sorry
had to say it. ;-)
Jeremy
--- David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey it works,
Have just fitted magnets to my
radiator hoses and just
started the car and already it is running cooler.
Must be the alignment of
Of course it might be simpler to just build earthen
ramps or raised docks(sunken ramps?)at each point of
use if these are relativly fixed and just winch the
unit on and off the truck/trailer. Rollers would help
or even lubed cross beams like the Egyptians are
rumored to have used to transport
The greater fuel flow requirements of alcohol are because of its much lower
Stoichimetric ratios. Pump gas is around 14.1:1 and alcohol is as low as
8.2:1. Again, I do not have my reference material here so the figures may
be slightly off. This very low sotic ratio is one of the reasons
I have also seen slip axle lowboy trailers which allow
a load to be winched on to the trailer bed at a low
angle and then the axle subframe is pushed back under
the trailer bed by the truck backing up and the two
are pinned together for transport.
Most often that is a beaver tail trailer where
Does anyone have experience using biodiesel in a heating oil burner.
I aked this once, and plently of people said yes.
However, I do not think they have tried it.
I need actual examples with burner type, model, nozzle size, BTU
estimate, necesary adjustments.
Any problems associated with
I hear that silica gel can be used to take the last 5% of the water
out of ethanol.
Does this help?
What are the advantages?
How much do you need/use?
Any info or informational resources would be appreciated?
I have some extra silica gel (10 pounds) if someone needs it or wants
to
Anyone happen to hear or see the big to do CNN did on biodiesel on
sale at the pump in selected sites in the bay area? Cost was
$2.90/gal. thanks gaw
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Hi folks,
Just wondering on this. In gasoline engines increasing compression increases
NOx.
(nitrogen oxides)
What NOx emissions are produced with ETOH? (ethanol)
Thanks,
Jay in Carson City
Grendel wrote:
You don't have to raise the compression to run ethanol but you can if you
want to. You
Good afternoon Kirk,
A few commments:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The major source of influence is the output of the sun.
if you mean that the only source of input energy to the earth is the
sun, then yes, I agree. But if you're somehow trying to rule out the
My question is, if that 5% water is miscible with ethanol then why remove
it. Back in WWII they used water and alcohol in old fighter aircraft. The
mix kept the engine cooler (within a normal heat range)thereby creating more
power. If a person had a fuel injected automobile wouldn't this have the
Back in the original gasoline crunch of the '70's everybody was adding water
injectors better camshafts, headers and all sorts of stuff to increase
milage. One guy wrote in to a magazine that he had installed all of the
devices they had recomended over a years time. He said his milage was so
good
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:00 AM
Subject: Biodiesel - Excise??
Hello,
Biodiesel update, yesterday the 23/5/01 a report by Robert Hill was tabled
in the federal senate, the contents of which are concerning. The
Tony Ackland wrote:
Are you refering to the StillMaker design ?
That's the one!
The site for it is http://stillmaker.dreamhost.com
I also have a copy of it on my site;
http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_distiller/still.pdf;
Thanks - downloading now.
I also have other plans for stills, both pot
Hi David,
Good to hear from you. I'm not mad and I will try not to take everything so
personal. We do work hard for what we have here and we like to enjoy the
fruits of our labor. I can't speak for our politicians but then neither can
they. It's very hard to speak from both sides of their mouth.
I tried using the mixture of refined coconut oil (FFA removed) 20 parts to one
part kerosene, just like what the Thai teacher did. The result was very
impressive: smokeless and almost odorless. The smell is just like heating oil
in the pan. There is no drop in the power. Then I referred
Here in the U.S. we can produce 10,000 proof gallons a year for personal use
without taxation. Ask your reprsentative to review this U.S. policy and
follow suit. How much money do our governments need anyway. Hope you can
beat the tax down.
Ron Miller
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From: steve
Ur in NJ?? Hmmm I am in PA.. Maybe i can come
watch??? or help? lol
Jeremy
--- steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
an engine blow is such a fun exposition. I'll take
pics for you all :-)
Steve Spence
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I am not familiar with hydroflourocarbons (sic) and the only gin I can drink
without distress is Bombay.
So in my attempt to create an analogy I used a vodka marty. The point is the
relative ratio.
Lets try again. Various feathers contribute to a raise in ground temperature
because they prevent
Sorry if this article has already been posted --
I'm on digest and thus I'm always behind.
I saw this AP article on the ABCnews web site.
It's about the fuel stations in Nevada that began
selling biodiesel on 05/22/01. It's entitled
French Fry Fuel - Biodiesel Reaches the Masses
Three Times the Price
Because biodiesel costs three times as much as regular diesel, adding
biodiesel even in small amounts raises the cost of the fuel by several cents
per gallon. It was selling in Sparks for $1.62 per gallon.
What's the average price of diesel in Nevada at this time...anyone
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Crabb, David wrote:
Im not saying there is hole.. not saying there isnt..
not saying global warming exists..not saying it doesnt.
All I know is that in the late 70s.. they were talking about us going into
an ice age..
studies and readings said so...
because they thought the pollution
Grendel wrote:
The greater fuel flow requirements of alcohol are because of its much lower
Stoichimetric ratios. Pump gas is around 14.1:1 and alcohol is as low as
8.2:1. Again, I do not have my reference material here so the figures may
be slightly off. This very low sotic ratio is one
Hi folks,
Just wondering on this. In gasoline engines increasing compression increases
NOx.
(nitrogen oxides)
What NOx emissions are produced with ETOH? (ethanol)
Thanks,
Jay in Carson City
Well, you're starting off with less.
* High-level ethanol blends reduce nitrogen oxide emissions by up to
I have a couple of cents to add to this:
As I understand some of it, one of the big problems with global warming is
the increase in fresh water into the oceans from increased rainfall and the
melting of the polar ice caps. The network of currents in the oceans have a
great effect on climate.
ronald miller sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is, if that 5% water is miscible with ethanol then why remove
it. Back in WWII they used water and alcohol in old fighter aircraft. The
mix kept the engine cooler (within a normal heat range)thereby creating more
power. If a person had a fuel
Dear Plato (at least I think from your e-mail address),
I would also like to hear the answer to your question.
That is very interesting idea, especially that governments are looking for
quick money and
burdening fuel oil with huge excise tax (which was until recently 50% in
Poland).
In
Hi Jerry,
The price of diesel here in Georgia USA
is $1.30 9/10 to $1.39 9/10 right now. I travel
the Interstate hwy every day so I see a lot of truckstops,
I`ll be glad to keep the prices posted if it will help.
David Cruse
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From: jerry dycus
Jan,
I have followed this thread before and if you check
the archives you may find that Biodiesel will replace
fuel oil nicely in standard fuel oil gun type
furnaces but Strait Veg Oil (SVO) causes a buildup
(acrolein?) which quickly degrades efficiency. Waste
oil burners apparently work well
Acrolein was mentioned in an earlier post as well, and I wanted to find a
list of diesel products of combustion. Here is one that may be of interest.
http://www.osha-slc.gov/SLTC/dieselexhaust/chemical.html
Ed B.
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Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
From Steve Spence:
http://www.e-cycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm
eCycle - Hybrid Motorcycle
Employing state-of-the-art mechanical and electrical design
technology, eCycle is developing a 150mpg motorcycle. The motorcycle
will feature a 125cc advanced 2-stroke CIDI engine and a 10kW
A biodiesel question. If you boil off and distill the excess methanol
from the glycerine for re-use, is it in fact suitable for re-use?
Won't it be too wet? I don't even know if water dissolves in
methanol. If so, does methanol have the same or similar upper-limit
azeotropic restriction for
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