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thanks, we are one company that work only with
Thermodinamic solar panels like heating pumps and plan
to work with that products to.
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www.luzsolar.pt
--- Jonathan Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
No problem at all. I have a contact at Expo Power
Systems, Inc.
Just about anything in the usa is legal, except distilling drinkable
spirits. That you need a permit for. homemade fuels for personal use have
very few restrictions.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: francisco j burgos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
I should probably mention that one web site I visited, said that furnace
fuel oil, diesel for trucks, vehicles, and sometimes kerosene generally all
come from the same pipe coming into town and gasoline comes out of the other
pipe(s).The various companies then add their various additives to
white spirit (1.-Common synonyms: Stodadart Solvent; Petroleum Spirits,
Mineral Spirit; 2.-Common Trade names: Exxsol, Shellsol, Solvesso) is made
of light aromatics (CAS N¼ 647 42-95-6) that comes from petroleum processing
industry. Some aromatic chemicals in their pure state, at high
could be of benefit to the whole group.
Luc
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 3:19 PM
Subject: Running B100 in the Benz
Actually these are also questions that can be asked on list so others can
benefit from the answers. No
True, I'm not saying it should be done, only it has been done plenty of
times.
I personally wouldn't do it, due to the quality control with the furnace
fuel, which doesn't meet any real standard other than combustion ability.
Even sulfur can be higher than with road and off road diesel.
Greg H.
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From: Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:31 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Petrol/Paraffin Motor ?
Hi Max:
I have a few questions for clarification. Are you saying that you are
running two of your petron engine
China: New Fuel Efficiency Standards Tougher Than Those of U.S.
Oct 10, 2004
http://www.greencarcongress.com
AP. After years of discussion, China has enacted fuel
efficiency standards that are stricter than those in
the U.S. Not only are the mileage requirements higher,
but every
EPA 2005 Fuel Economy Guide Leaders
Oct 07, 2004
http://www.greencarcongress.com
The EPA has released its 2005 Fuel Economy Guide.
Hybrids and diesels are not surprisingly the most
efficient and with its Escape Hybrid, Ford now offers
the most fuel-efficient SUV.
Here are the top
I heard of a person who put red diesel in 5 gallon water bottles (lexan) and
the sunlight caused the red dye to precipitate thus easily filterable. Lot of
work I think to save a few bucks.
Kirk
Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't get caught with red diesel in your tank. passenger
Hi there,
Has anyone tried using biofuel as the cleaner alternative for 2T lube oil?
2-stroke engines are still prevalent everywhere and well known for its
pollutive act. Would like to hear from any person or organisation that tried
using biofuel on 2 stroke engines?
Cheers,
CS Chua
Hi there,
Has anyone tried using biofuel as the cleaner alternative for 2T
lube oil? 2-stroke engines are still prevalent everywhere and well
known for its pollutive act. Would like to hear from any person or
organisation that tried using biofuel on 2 stroke engines?
Please see these
US FreedomTruck --
Powered by sunlight
Student project leaps into future
Bob Golfen
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 1, 2004 12:00 AM
The ungainly looking Chevy pickup parked in the courtyard at
Central High School, with a huge set of solar panels mounted
on top, may not look so
Evangelist warns Bush over Jerusalem
American television evangelist Pat Robertson has
warned President
George
Bush that he will risk losing Christian support if he
stops backing
Israeli
sovereignty over Jerusalem.
On a visit to Jerusalem, Robertson spoke repeatedly in
favour of Israel
Hi there,
The cost of biofuel ( be it from coconut oil, palm oil, rapeseed, soybean,
corn, sunflower, canola etc) including ethanol? Are there cost charts from
various countries to peruse? At current oil price level can crop growers match
with biofuel? Brazil went through that scenario with
fuel. He told me when they sold untaxed fuel and give you a container
with enough dye to correctly dye the fuel you bought. Apparently they
are audited for the amount of untaxed fuel they sell and the amount of
red dye the consume with not much verification on exactly how these two
items
We don't have fire ants in Europe but all ants use to follow pheromones
paths and are very sensitive to strong smells.
By dry weather, many matters can be used to stop the ants on their
roads, from coffee powder to sulfur.
My grand parents used to make lines of sulfur along the walls or front
methanol/ethanol.the catalyst, the feed stock (SVO/WVO) and each one of
these variables has inherent potential costs attached, so an actualy working
chart would be very difficult to put together, however if one were to limit
one's self to only commercially produced biodiesel frrom SVO under
I've never seen the public given that option. Many people would find that too
tempting. It is added at the refinery out here.
Kirk
Kenneth Kron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My dad used to work for a fuel station that sold off-road and on road
fuel. He told me when they sold untaxed fuel and give
wrong, again.
Christians,as a matter of doctrine do not hold to ANY land mass, as the
kingdom of God is spiritual and not a physical body of earth otherwise Jesus
would not have claimed before Pilate that His kingdom was not of this world,
otherwise if it were His servants would fight, so
outside source, it has the range of a conventional vehicle, though that
defeats the purpose of showing that hydrogen can be created from clean,
sustainable sources, then used to fuel vehicles.
Yes, but if one were to set up a hydrogen system at one's home using the
same solar panels(or more)
Thanks for the article!
Jonathan
MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
US FreedomTruck --
Powered by sunlight
Student project leaps into future
Bob Golfen
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 1, 2004 12:00 AM
The ungainly looking Chevy pickup parked in the courtyard at
Central High School, with a huge set of
Good question! That is what they are getting to, I'm sure...
Jonathan
Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When the vehicle's tanks are filled with compressed hydrogen from an
outside source, it has the range of a conventional vehicle, though that
defeats the purpose of showing that hydrogen
currently I am paying between 2.80 and 3.40 a gallon
mel
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From: csc-propulsion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 3:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: [Biofuel] Cost of biofuel
They will soon realize that the expenditure in solar equipment to make that
vehicle go more than a few miles will cost much more than anyone will want to
pay. Seems silly to spend 100x as much on solar panels (not including the fuel
cell costs) than the electric it produces would have cost for
It is nice to see technical students work with projects,
but the importance, description and conclusions of this
project are more damaging publicity than anything real
information.
The same project or similar have been done many times
during the last 100 years and the following comment
are
your own.
At a rough production cost of .41-.42/liter (x3.78/USgal=$1.55-$1.59CDN
converted at 28%= $1.21-$1.24USD/gal) Minus the labour that you provide
yourself for free :)
Also, this is basing on CDN costs for methanol (the biggest expense) and the
US cost is lower than that, so what I
aleviate it (maybe?)
Should one's home already be off-grid (as yours is) but running a solar
system, wouldn't it be feasible top simply detour a portion of that prodcued
energy to a hydrogen capacitor of some sort and then pressure up the truck's
tanks from that ? Kinda putting an laready
I was just emailed this link that deals with sustainable farming.
http://www.factoryfarm.org/
Luc
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Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
the EPA tests artificially inflate hybrid numbers and running the AC
reduces the mpg by ~22% and cold temperatures reduce battery storage
another ~26%.
Todd
On Oct 10, 2004, at 9:26 PM, MH wrote:
EPA 2005 Fuel Economy Guide Leaders
Oct 07, 2004
http://www.greencarcongress.com
The EPA
My friend, you have a very valid point here.
The cost in taking your home off grid will be a costly investment. However,
that is what it is. An investment in your home and the future! It will save you
in the not so distance future in the cost of power for your lights and heating.
One can
Thanks!
This is great info!!!
Jonathan
Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just emailed this link that deals with sustainable farming.
http://www.factoryfarm.org/
Luc
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Yes, but if one were to set up a hydrogen system at one's home using the
same solar panels(or more) and hydrogen unit and then stock the hydrogen
tanks of the truck, still equiped with it's own system, wouldn't that
make it run just like any other ?
Luc
The whole point of the project
I'm off grid. There is no way I would divert my few and precious kWh's into
producing hydrogen. What a boondoggle. Ethanol and biodiesel would put me yards
ahead in the game.
Steve
www.green-trust.org
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My friend, you have a very valid point here.
The cost in
Here's another scenario that could eliminate that conclusion or at least
aleviate it (maybe?)
Should one's home already be off-grid (as yours is) but running a solar
system, wouldn't it be feasible top simply detour a portion of that
prodcued energy to a hydrogen capacitor of some sort and
Okay... Thanks for your input. I'm still open for anything that will help us
save our Earth.
Jonathan
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I'm off grid. There is no way I would divert my few and precious kWh's into
producing hydrogen. What a boondoggle. Ethanol and biodiesel would put me yards
ahead in
Just gave you two (Ethanol and biodiesel/wvo), and now I'll add a third,
bio-methane, for stationary apps like generators and heating/cooking. Digest
your and your animal's crap for energy. Hydrogen isn't, and won't be anything
that will help us save our Earth.
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I have been evaluating it with others since late 1996. Ithas
been in my car for nearly 6 years and 65,000 miles, and my wifes car for nearly
8 years and 74,000 miles. Both cars have original exhausts. I have never known
exhausts last so long! It has dealt with sludge
On Oct 11, 2004, at 8:59 AM, Jonathan Dunlap wrote:
Okay... Thanks for your input. I'm still open for anything that will
help us
save our Earth.
Good luck! Let's start by getting world population down to about
500 million, then limiting reproduction to 1 child per person.
Then
LOL... Okay... Baby steps. We have to start somewhere!
Jonathan
Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 11, 2004, at 8:59 AM, Jonathan Dunlap wrote:
Okay... Thanks for your input. I'm still open for anything that will
help us
save our Earth.
Good luck! Let's start by getting
upon a time we had a Chevy Nova that we considered operating on hydrogen.
Assuming that we stored the H2 in a series of small scuba-like tanks, we
figured we could get about thirty miles before the H2 ran out.
Initially, that was disappointing, but then we got to figuring that so
long as
The four-cylinder engine is tuned to run on
hydrogen, which is produced by a hand-built electrolysis
system mounted in the bed.
For me, the most interesting part of the experiment involved the mobile
electrolysis unit.
Anyone have a handle on what the state-of-the-art is for mobile
What I have heard is similar. I know that there was one head to head
competition done in Canada which showed identical mileage numbers for a
Prius and a Jetta TDI. I think it there is a link in the archives
somewhere. They were driven by the same person, same day and supposedly
in the same
I am an Environmental Health Officer and not a Specialised Combustion
Engineer, or similar, which I suspect many contributors to the biofuels list
are. So I have if you like, a fairly 'naive' attitude to testing treatments,
additives and devices,I do it out of a genuine interest to
Greg, I confess. I must find time to read the rules. I chose to answer
correspondence first. Its 7:00pm, I have 147 unread messages, and I guess my
employer might well suggest that I should even be on this list.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent
Christopher, many thanks.
I guess the best source to believe is the EPA and also my own experience. They
have simp-ly made no difference to the peformance of my cars.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner
Did you consider how many kWh it would have taken for that 30 miles on
hydrogen, then compared how many miles that amount of kWh would have taken you
on a pure EV? More than 60 miles ..
That's the whole point these folks are missing. It's not that it can't be done,
it's that it shouldn't
I'm not sure what it has to do with exhaust, but my Nissan Sentra has 124k
miles, and the original exhaust is still solid. Only 20k miles of that were on
E10. I don't think that biofuels will benefit from this technology, as
combustion efficiency is already much better than fossil fuels. I
Did you consider how many kWh it would have taken for that 30 miles on
hydrogen, then compared how many miles that amount of kWh would have taken you
on a pure EV? More than 60 miles ..
That's the whole point these folks are missing. It's not that it can't be done,
it's that it
124k miles on original exhaust seems exceptional to me, and I think it is a
statement of how clean exhaust emissions are from the fuel you use. My
understanding is that exhausts not so much rust from the outside in, but rot
from the inside out due to the presence of acidic combustion products
There used to be (maybe still is) a company in fort Erie, Ontario which
sold a fuel additive based on an organic iron compound (related to formic
acid I believe) which claimed similar gains for diesels and was also said
to be useful with gasoline engines. I think it was supposed to have a
yes that is in my long term plans. I also have a greasecar.com kit on order
to run SVO.
At present I am looking for tanks and pumps and stuff to make my own. Once I
have a setup, I will be making my own light biodiesel to start and stop the
engine on.
So at present I am running B50 and I
Mullahs Love U.S. Oil Policy
By Thomas L. Friedman
The New York Times
Friday 08 October 2004
Of all the shortsighted policies of President Bush and Vice
President Dick Cheney, none has been worse than their opposition to
energy conservation and a
Well, it wasn't the fuel filters :( Apparently the BD is such an effective
cleaner that it loosened up all the residuals in the tank and lines and they
became clogged up.
The Benz is now at the MB dealer where tomorow it will be fitted with new fuel
lines and the tank emptied and flushed or
The merc doesn't have a electric pump, but does have a external lift pump near
the fuel filter feeding the injector pump. Make sure the return line isn't
plugged.
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Well, it wasn't the fuel filters :( Apparently the BD is such an effective
cleaner that it loosened
Since the flammability range for hydrogen is so wide it could be used at 2% and
then a very lean gasoline mix would burn -- and with good efficiency.
Propagation is a serious problem with lean gasoline mixtures.
Kirk
Walt Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The part of the article that caught
in-line filter or the second one coming out of the fuel filter (to the left)
away from you as you look at it from the right side of the car ?
Luc
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running
--- Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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124k miles on original exhaust seems exceptional to
me,
really?? is this also the experience of other people?
i have quite a few cars here that have 100-200k on
gasoline engines with the original exhaust and it's in
good condition. and there's one
muffler. Only part that went south was the locking flange at the manifold
($26.00).
Luc
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From: Erik Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] fuel additives
--- Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Erik Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
124k miles on original exhaust seems exceptional to
me,
really?? is this also the experience of other people?
i have quite a few cars here that have 100-200k on
gasoline engines with the original
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