[Biofuel] Treat glycerine to get low temp additive

2004-12-29 Thread ings . group
Use the glycerine byproduct to get an additive that will make the biodiesel liquid down to -21 degrees C, see experiment 2 stage 4 in patent at: http://l2.espacenet.com/espacenet/viewer?PN=US2003167681CY=gbLG=enDB=EPD Abstract Procedure to generate biodiesel fuels with improved properties at

[Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread michael meeks
Hello all, I'm having trouble making biodiesel that won't gel in temps below 20 deg, either washed or unwashed. Is this normal or have I picked up some bad wvo? thanks Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] quality test

2004-12-29 Thread John Guttridge
I had similar troubles, look for a more complete post from me on the subject later in the day as I finish writing it. some things that helped me: it is cold here which slows everything down, I had to settle my last batch for 7 days (it had separated in 12-24 hours but it was still hazy,

[Biofuel] Re: Biofuel Gas Stations - Example List of Stations for Sale

2004-12-29 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Here is example of some gas stations for sale throughout the United States. As you recall, the idea is to find orphan stations in our neighborhoods and on paper look at the possiblity of converting to a clean fueling gas station. See you all later as I continue my research. Phillip Wolfe

[Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-29 Thread Kim Garth Travis
While I know some of you think that anyone who buys a new car is nuts, some of us just don't have the time to play back yard mechanic. I learned long ago that hiring someone to do the kind of work that needs to be done with an older car means bankruptcy. The old adage of if you want it

[Biofuel] Donation Acknowledgements

2004-12-29 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Folks, If anyone who has sent me a donation for the list/JtF has not received an acknowledgement email please let me know. Also, if I have failed to send out the receipts for a tax deductible donation again please let me know. I think I am on top of this but it seems these days that

Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-29 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Todd ; Love your sense of humor! Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born

Re: [Biofuel] god problems (see, got rid of titration)

2004-12-29 Thread Walt Patrick
Indeed! If we hadn't mortgaged the future of our children on warfare, what kind of goodwill could we be spreading in South Asia right now? I can imagine C 130s laden with food and water. I can envision the Army Corps of Engineers helping to restore infrastructure. I believe the

[Biofuel] umm..?

2004-12-29 Thread bandido
is this where i go for responces? i ll find out...i am in chiapas mexico, and am looking high and low for fare prices for methenal. i have been making biodiesel for three years in seattle, and am excited to have an oprtunity to teach biodiesel in some atonomous communities. so, the qustion is: is

Re: [Biofuel] god problems (see, got rid of titration)

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
Indeed! If we hadn't mortgaged the future of our children on warfare, what kind of goodwill could we be spreading in South Asia right now? Secured a warfare state in lieu of any threat of a welfare state - discounting corporate welfare, of course. Flawed thinking though, sending them off

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-29 Thread R Del Bueno
Over the past 2 years I have seen the quality of this fuel vary greatly. The vehicles that seemed most prone to having issues with the variable fuel quality where the 2004/2005 VWs. In 2004 evidently VW started using a high pressure common-rail direct injection fuel system, which provides a

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
I don't believe VW offers the TDI in a GL 2-door package. You'll have to go 4-door. Diesel option runs ~$1,400. Also, there is no diesel option other than turbo, unlike years past where turbo/non-turbo was an option. Comes with a cat. You might want to ask about specific diesel fuel

Re: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
That's as normal as the sun rising in the east. Expect to start having gel/solidification problems at around 40*F with WVO esters. The problem isn't that the oil is used, but that animal fats are generally present in WVO. Also, much WVO is partially hydrogenated (looks like veg shortening

Re: [Biofuel] umm..?

2004-12-29 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: [Biofuel] umm..? is this where i go for responces? i ll find out...i am in chiapas mexico, and am looking high and low for fare prices for methenal. You may be

[Biofuel] Buddhist Technology - was Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: Titration problems

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
Buddhist Technology: Bringing a New Consciousness to Our Technological Future by Arthur Zajonc Seventeenth Annual E. F. Schumacher Lecture October 1997, Williams College, Williamstown, Massachusetts Edited by Hildegarde Hannum ©Copyright 1999 E. F. Schumacher Society and Arthur Zajonc

Re: [Biofuel] quality test

2004-12-29 Thread Daniel Breen
hey John, Boy would I like to talk with you on the phone. I live in Michigan. Are you close? I didn't pay any attention to the temp of the water or oil, didn't know that was as issue. Will try again with that in mind thanks dan - Original Message - From: John Guttridge Sent:

[Biofuel] golf tdi

2004-12-29 Thread Stuart Radcliffe
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:17:21 -0600 From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] New Car To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Greetings, While I know some of you think that anyone who buys a

RE: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread Mel Riser
Number one diesel like they sell up north has additives and some paraffin to keep it from gelling. You could buy some of the commercial anti-gelling agents to lower the temperature. I spoke with my brother in Alaska yesterday about this and he says they make a special additive you put in the

RE: [Biofuel] god problems

2004-12-29 Thread Mel Riser
my premise is religion is a PERSONAL issue and just because some may be into Jesus, others are into Mohamed or Gautama. Religion forms the mind of man, but after graduation all are welcome in the next life. So regardless of what you believe Your actions are more important than your flavor or

Re: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread michael meeks
thanks for the reply Todd, when making biodiesel in my garage I normally boil the oil, then as its cooling down and it hits 135 or so I add the methoxide and mix for about an hour to an hour and a half (20 gal batches) then let it sit for two days, well at least when it was warmer than 32deg. I

[Biofuel] looking for a van

2004-12-29 Thread Twiggymoonshoes
better for biodiesel? I am currently home brewing for my 1979 Rabbit. Also, does anyone know of vans for sale? I am having trouble finding one. I am located in California, but all areas will be considered. thanks David ___ Biofuel mailing list

RE: [Biofuel] looking for a van

2004-12-29 Thread Mel Riser
I bought an old ambulance off of ebay. Most if not all are diesel powered and you can get a great deal if you shop around. Have even seen some diesel vans on there that were not ambulances. mel -Original Message- From: Twiggymoonshoes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December

RE: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread Mel Riser
This appears to be the answer http://www.powerservice.com/arcticexpress_biodiesel_antigel.asp mel -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-29 Thread aleksander . kac
While I know some of you think that anyone who buys a new car is nuts, some of us just don't have the time to play back yard mechanic. I learned long ago that hiring someone to do the kind of work that needs to be done with an older car means bankruptcy. The old adage of if you want it

RE: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
Petro-diesel antigels/pour point depressants don't work very well with biodiesel. See Additives: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Biodiesel in winter Best Keith Number one diesel like they sell up north has additives and some paraffin to keep it from gelling. You

RE: [Biofuel] was god problems was Titration problems

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
Luc, Again I couldn't have put it any better. Specially because english is not my mother tongue. And this is one thing I like about this list. Not only am I learning about biofuels, I am also leaning how to use english. You seem to do rather well. And so I would like to thank everyone on

Re: [Biofuel] looking for a van

2004-12-29 Thread John Miggins
1982 Vanagons cheap John Miggins Harvest Solar Wind Power renewable solutions to everyday needs www.harvest-energy.com Phone/Fax 918-743-2299 Cell: 918-521-6223 - Original Message - From: Twiggymoonshoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:18

[Biofuel] Re: Biolubes Update-Cognis Deutschland GmbH makes Vegetable Based

2004-12-29 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Here is another example of changing markets in vegetable based lubricants. Cognis Targets China's Fridges with Vegetable Based Products Moving to solidify its position in the growing Asia-Pacific market, Cognis Deutschland GmbH announced last week that it has started building a

Re: [Biofuel] looking for a van

2004-12-29 Thread Busyditch
Try this ebay search. Nice looking reefer van in Hollywood. http://search.ebay.com/diesel-van_W0QQsofocusZbsQQcatrefZC5QQfromZR7QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQsosortpropertyZ1QQsocolumnlayoutZ3QQsorecordsperpageZ50 - Original Message - From: Twiggymoonshoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Biofuel] more on the quality test

2004-12-29 Thread John Guttridge
before testing my fuel was settled for 7 days until it was crystal clear and light yellow in color. after 24-48 hours it seemed to settle completely but it was still hazy, this went away entirely after the full 7 days. there was no appreciable increase in the volume of the glyc layer after

Re: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
You might find that you'll get equal dewatering results by just heating the oil and letting it settle at a steady temp of ~120*F. Heating it beyond 212*F to drive off water is a large expense of energy and can actually difuse water into your oil. Todd Swearingen - Original Message

Re: [Biofuel] golf tdi

2004-12-29 Thread John Guttridge
kinda hard and usually 38 mpg in the city. I only have 17,000 miles on it but problems yet! Don't wait to put bio diesel in it, that should not void the warranty and if you start using asap you may avoid any fuel filter cloging that sometimes happens when you run the first bio through. on the

[Biofuel] Triple Purpose Genset

2004-12-29 Thread Legal Eagle
before it can be called a viable alternative. Now that the disclaimer is out of the way: I am looking into using a trailer refrigeration unit as a triple purpose genset. They both heat and cool, so with some duct work should be able to be used for those purposes in a small habitation or work

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-29 Thread Kim Garth Travis
As you stated yourself, IF in capital letters, I knew a decent mechanic. I know a lot of rip off artists, quasi capable of oil change high charge ones but no one I would trust. I have watched too many friends try going the route of the rebuild to even think of going there. When one lives

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
You prepared a 4 liter batch from which you pulled both wash samples. Yes? Your only variable was temperature of the wash water. Yes? You point out that the warmer sample separated well and the colder one not. Yes? So why did you dispose of the cooler sample prior to letting your

Re: [Biofuel] Triple Purpose Genset

2004-12-29 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Luc ; Yes a diesel air conditioner present some interesting possibilities. The diesel engine is putting out lots of waste heat, so try to use the thermal energy directly instead of converting to electricity for thermal loads. In other words, your tanks need heating. Your room needs heating

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2004-12-29 Thread John Guttridge
Thanks for the responses. lots of good information, more questions follow. I understand that I sound like a little kid going why to everything you say but I really want to understand what I am doing here so that I can be a shining example of the products of the homebrew community and all it

[Biofuel] A Touch of Crude

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
A Touch of Crude American bankers handled his loot. Oil companies play by his rules. The Bush administration woos him. How the pursuit of oil is propping up the West African dictatorship of Teodoro Obiang. By Peter Maass Illustration By: Jeffrey Decoster Map by Baker Vail January/February

[Biofuel] Crude Measures

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
Crude Measures The author of A Touch of Crude reflects on the resource curse, the hypocrisy of corporate-driven foreign policy, and the perils of reporting in Equatorial Guinea. Peter Maass Interviewed By Michal Lumsden December 20, 2004 Peter Maass has been reporting around the globe

[Biofuel] Oil Slick

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
Oil Slick The Obiang regime tries to spin the Riggs scandal. By Dave Gilson December 20, 2004 So far, the Senate investigation that revealed Teodoro Obiang's questionable dealings with the Riggs Bank and American oil companies has caused relatively little fallout for his regime. It has

[Biofuel] Bush Left in the Cold by Climate Allies

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
Published on Sunday, December 26, 2004 by the lndependent/UK Bush Left in the Cold by Climate Allies by Geoffrey Lean George Bush's two closest allies in his attempt to sabotage international action to combat global warning last week dramatically distanced themselves from him. Saudi

[Biofuel] China Emerging as U.S. Rival for Canada's Oil

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
?oref=login The New York Times Business World Business China Emerging as U.S. Rival for Canada's Oil By SIMON ROMERO Published: December 23, 2004 CALGARY, Alberta, Dec. 21 - China's thirst for oil has brought it to the doorstep of the United States. Chinese energy companies are on the

[Biofuel] China Invests Heavily In Sudan's Oil Industry

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
China Invests Heavily In Sudan's Oil Industry Beijing Supplies Arms Used on Villagers By Peter S. Goodman Washington Post Foreign Service Thursday, December 23, 2004; Page A01 LEAL, Sudan -- On this parched and dusty African plain, China's largest energy company is pumping crude oil, sending

Re: [Biofuel] Bush Left in the Cold by Climate Allies

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
This breached an assurance given by President Bush in 2001, when he pulled out of the protocol, that America would not try to stop other countries reaching agreement. Am I to believe that George W. Bush would flip-flop on and/or mislead the international community? Say it ain't so! Surely

[Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-29 Thread Anti-Fossil
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I am being a little too conservative with these percentages) of the items for sale, at any given department store in America today, are made in China? This question has bothered me for years. Is this simply a matter of

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
somone on the yahoo groups list (can't find the message right now, I will post a link when I do) posted results of lab tests that showed low mono or di glycerides but a high level of triglycerides. I admittadly don't understand the chemistry well enough to know why that would happen (or

[Biofuel] Buddhist Economics

2004-12-29 Thread Dave Shaw
EF Schumacher's classic lecture entitled Buddhist Economics is now available online, with many translations, at http://www.smallisbeautiful.org/frameset_buddhist.html Direct URL for the English format: http://www.smallisbeautiful.org/english.pdf I am excited to attend a short course at the

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I am being a little too conservative with these percentages) of the items for sale, at any given department store in America today, are made in China? This question has bothered me for years. Is this simply a matter of

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-29 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Dear Anti-Fossil and Readers: The Wall Street Journal, Dec, 24 Issue and China Daily have have related articles. It is a very complex issue. Here is a summary: --Editor of Start Magazine tried buying only U.S. made goods for her Christmas and realized most items no longer manufactured in the

[Biofuel] People of Good Will

2004-12-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
Our household is in mourning, we have not lacked for tears these past few weeks. A month ago my wife's mother died after a year of ups and downs and time in and out of hospital. Her passing was peaceful, and her life was long and full. She raised five children in trying circumstances.

Re: [Biofuel] People of Good Will

2004-12-29 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I am lighting a candle on my altar for you and yours. May the energy I am sending help lighten your load. Bright Blessings, Kim At 12:28 PM 12/29/2004, you wrote: Our household is in mourning, we have not lacked for tears these past few weeks. A month ago my wife's mother died after a

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-29 Thread robert luis rabello
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I am being a little too conservative with these percentages) of the items for sale, at any given department store in America today, are made in China? This question has bothered me for years. Is this simply a matter of

RE: [Biofuel] god problems

2004-12-29 Thread Christopher
Tim, We both are in complete agreement. You said, Much of those gathering together events were not however held in Temples but rather in homes of individuals and other places. The Church is not a building but rather it refers to the Faithful followers. The Temples are no less sacred but still

RE: [Biofuel] was god problems was Titration problems

2004-12-29 Thread Christopher
Luc, Again I couldn't have put it any better. Specially because english is not my mother tongue. And this is one thing I like about this list. Not only am I learning about biofuels, I am also leaning how to use english. And so I would like to thank everyone on this list. Keith,is there any way

RE: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-29 Thread Christopher
Well the first one doesn't actually do much. :-) Best, Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Redler Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration