Biobased Plastic Flexes Its Muscle
Washington - Electroactive polymers--plastics that
expand or contract when stimulated by electricity--can
now be made from plants rather than petrochemicals,
according to Agricultural Research Service (ARS)
scientists in Peoria, Ill.
There is now
Congrats on the job, but im not changing my stance.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?
You guys DO know I work for the
Kieths Right
a softly softly covert approach is the only way to get biodiesiel embeded
into the fabric of society in the manner in which this comunity has
envisoned
Another thing not every one wants to be seen as an extreme leftwing group
it gives ammunition to people who would like tom
Im gonna have to agree with kieth on this one. the best way to eliminate a
problem with the least repercussion, is to blindside it.
in our case we need to stay quiet and continue to grow so large, that when
the government/corporations DO notice their margins are shrinking and they
try to
anyone who was insulted/offended/irritated etc. by my anti fuel tax post, i
didnt consider the audience and i apologize for it, sorry guys.
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I can't speak for Keith or anyone else but, (IMO) if you present your position in a way that reveals facts logic and reason, the only ones who are offended are those who would prefer not to believe it. It also oftenmeans that you have made a compelling argument.my $.02Mike Jason and Katie
Hi Keith,
Thanks for the reply. I'm puzzled by:
My point is that IF we can tolerate this diet that we should
because it is unethical to kill sentient creatures for no good reason.
ANIMALS HAVE RIGHTS. Just because they are dumb doesn't mean we can
deprive them of a happy existance because
Dear sir:
if I were a poor american I would agree 100% with you, but I am a venezuelan
and Mr. Chavez is giving away our wealth with out even consulting the
venezuelan congress... besides he is planting the seed of class hate and
class strugle in USA.
Yours truly,
F.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051201/wl_canada_nm/canada_environment_climate_cows_col
VILLE STE. CATHERINE, Quebec (Reuters) - A Canadian company has an
idea for motorists worried about global warming -- put a cow in your
tank.
A C$14 million factory near Montreal started producing biodiesel
Keith wrote:
Prohibition in the US wasn't exactly a resounding success, it just
drove it underground and boosted organised crime. I've read that the
consumption of alcohol went up, by as much as 80% some have said. The
attraction of the illicit.
Some interesting related info:
In researching
Keith,
I'm not sure that Mike is proposing a national campaign complete with
television commercials and lobbyists well-funded with $ to grease the
gears of the political process. It sounds as though he might be willing to
monitor proposals that could effect BD homebrewers here in the US
In a rare event, I am going to disagree with Keith. I rarely do,
because we think alike on most things.
1. I don't think comparing ourselves to moonshiners will prove useful
to either the BD crowd nor the crowd that would regulate/shut us down.
It's a useful rhetorical tool for the purposes
Kidding. You think they'd have me?
Jason and Katie wrote:
Congrats on the job, but im not changing my stance.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax
Hello All,
My father-in-law, a diesel
mechanic, has helped me build a BD processor, travelled with me from NY to
Florida to get an clean, old Mercedes that just loves BD. He is a wonderful man.
We differ in opinion on one particular point re: biodiesel.
He says: "Lay low in the high
Doesn't surprise me.
We Americans have very little patience for the truth.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith wrote:
Prohibition in the US wasn't exactly a resounding success, it just
drove it underground and boosted organised crime. I've read that the
consumption of alcohol went up, by as much
Nobody really knows because nobody really monitors the news. That's
another thing I would propose: subscribe to a clipping service and write a
custom Google search to stay on top of what's happening. Track legislation.
The last thing I would propose is to become another NBB.
I was down in
Kim,
You wrote:
I am trying to understand why you feel the need to have people pay to be
a member of an advocacy group. I am a member of several and the membership
is asked to pay for the postcards we bombard Washington with.
Has bombarding Washington w. postcards been an
Maybe if I post the ISP will notice I participate once in a while.
I want to thank the list because it put me onto www.notmilk.com and it saved
my life. Now, about a year later I am feeling 10 years younger and am moving
on to Raw Food Vegan.
I don't like being known as a lurker but a learner.
I heard this report on NPR last week. They were interviewing some govt
person about biodiesel in the ferryboat engines. All they said was that it
gunked up the engines. Anybody there in Washington state have any more info
on this matter? DB
Fr
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Follow up
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/249964_gbio28.html
DB wrote:
I heard this report on NPR last week. They were interviewing some govt
person about biodiesel in the ferryboat engines. All they said was that it
gunked up the engines. Anybody there in Washington state have any more
From the PI article:
The relative simplicity of making biodiesel fuel has raised concerns
that amateur refiners may undermine the industry's reputation by
producing fuel that's unreliable.
The Environmental Protection Agency has awarded a $70,000 grant to a
project called Bio-49 Degrees that
On Dec 3, 2005, at 8:52 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:My father-in-law..is a wonderful man. We differ in opinion on one particular point re: biodiesel. He says, "Lay low inthe high grass." I say, "Spread the word, change the world." My car's license plate is BD 100. I talk to friends,
Maybe if I post the ISP will notice I participate once in a while.
I want to thank the list because it put me onto www.notmilk.com and it saved
my life. Now, about a year later I am feeling 10 years younger and am moving
on to Raw Food Vegan.
I don't like being known as a lurker but a learner.
Dermot posted:
[snip]
It's unethical to kill ANYTHING for no good reason, unethical and not
sustainable.
[snip]
This seems to be true. all the documentaries and history ive come across
about the Native American cultures allow for taking a non-human life for
food reasons as long as the
Mike,
It seems the UK is way aheaad of you on this one. To collect WVO over here
you already need to get a waste carriers licence from the Environment
Agency. And if you want to sell so much as a drop of your finished BD, you
need yet another licence! Oh yes, and your oil storage facility must be
Greetings,
I do believe that your kind of spreading the word is what we need.
I think it is the talking to those on Capital Hill, face to face that is
dangerous. I am not Keith, but I learned way back when that telling
the truth and trying to get legislation to be reasonable doesn't
work. That
Greetings,
I am sorry you took offence, but many good grass roots based things have
happened without someone getting a full time paycheck out of it. For
starters, we have legal raw milk dairies in Texas. If you are planning on
creating yourself a job with everyone's funds, please have the
Mike;
I was going to jump on this thread DBY, but got busy
-- Keith has already said most of what i was
thinking. Only addng:
Big Oil is already acutely aware, as is the rest of
the corporatocracy -- but the grass-roots movement is
already almost at the tipping point, BO is already
irrelevant
We need a class struggle here in the bad old USA, i doubt it would do any
good to Venezuela, sapping the energy like that, but the class gap needs to
be either closed or become so rampantly obvious that someone will do
something about it.
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From: francisco j burgos
Greetings,
If you are watching what is happening on the pesticide testing on children,
forum, yes, we are making a big difference. In Texas, we now have legal
raw milk, due to such campaignes. Move on is an organization that gets the
people out to write to congress and it is working. When
I tend to lay low .. I'll talk theory with anyone but I rarely stand up and
state that I DO THAT!!
I'm a practitioner of many alternative healing modalities and work mostly on
animals .. but the majority of modalities cross species lines easily (herbs
can be iffy).
If a modality works on
Just some information I've had in a file.
While this is the AVMA, it also includes the AMA in the information.
There is very big money behind any movement designed to stop any attempt
toward any individual and/or group of individuals who would or could hinder
control and/or profits.
There has
Thanks .. I joined .. and it seems to help re-align my focus.
I've also sent your link to others I thought may be interested.
Mary Lynn
Mary Lynn Schmidt
ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained
Minister .
Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics .
LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT
X-MAS.
My fellow American, I have learned today that the Liberals in
Congress
are secretly plotting to take Jesus, the Christ, out of Christmas and
change the holiday's name to X-mas. As we all know, X
Thanks Mike I kinda figured it was a temperature problem. It's nice to know
for sure,DB
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From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel gunks up engines in
Dear all
I'm sorry about this, it's happened a few times recently that viruses
have got through to the list membership.
It shouldn't have happened, the list server is set to convert all
code to ascii and to reject all attachments, but there seems to be a
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Hi Lillie
We haven't forgotten you. Or I haven't anyway.
Maybe if I post the ISP will notice I participate once in a while.
I see you got bounced twice, sorry about that. FYI, this is the info
the List administration sends to people who ask:
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Subject: PANUPS: The 21st Anniversary of the Bhopal Pesticide Plant Explosion
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Welcome to the latest update of the Global Issues
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Bhopal was and still is today an appalling atrocity, still ongoing
after more than 20 years, a major crime against humanity and
something we all should know about. And be outraged about. The bald,
bare facts are bad enough, but the full picture in all its sickening
detail is far worse, and
Hey Felix,
I'm interested. Where abouts are you in Canada? I'd like more details on the truck and the cars.
SteveSteve Reimer
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Poison + water = hydrogen. New microbial genome shows how
http://www.keralanext.com/news/index.asp?id=455612
Rockville, Md.--Take a pot of scalding water, remove all
the oxygen, mix in a bit of poisonous carbon monoxide,
and add a pinch of hydrogen gas. It sounds like a recipe
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