Re: [Biofuel] Interesting Read

2006-03-09 Thread Chip Mefford
Keith Addison wrote: Hello Chip Keith Addison wrote: Hello Chip snip Actually it's the industrialised countries' addiction to wasting energy that's doing that. Wholly agree, no arguments here. Merely replacing fossil fuels is not the answer. A rational and sustainable energy future

[Biofuel] Oceans may soon be more corrosive than when the dinosaurs died

2006-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.carnegieinstitution.org/news_releases/news_0602_20.html Carbon dioxide from the burning of coal, oil, and gas may ultimately make the oceans corrosive to coral reefs and many other marine organisms Monday February 20, 2006 Oceans may soon be more corrosive than when the dinosaurs

[Biofuel] Plan for new nuclear programme approaches meltdown after report

2006-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
See also: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4778344.stm BBC NEWS 'No quick fix' from nuclear power Monday, 6 March 2006, 22:44 GMT - http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article349711.ece Plan for new nuclear programme approaches meltdown after report By Michael Harrison, and

[Biofuel] The Coming Resource Wars

2006-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/03/07/the_coming_resource_wars.php The Coming Resource Wars Michael T. Klare March 07, 2006 Michael T. Klare is a professor of peace and world security studies at Hampshire College and the author of Resource Wars and Blood and Oil, both available in

[Biofuel] Just How Addicted to Oil Are We?

2006-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2006/02/how_addicted_to_ oil-2.html Just How Addicted to Oil Are We? Commentary: Considering the permanent energy crisis By Michael T. Klare February 10, 2006 President Bush's State of the Union comment that the United States is addicted to oil

Re: [Biofuel] first time confusion

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Hi R. I can't comment on the HEET as I haven't used it but you haven't given us anything about the nature of the problem other than saying not getting a good reaction. It's probably safe to assume that if it is on the site and people have used it, it works. It's still possible your lye is old

Re: [Biofuel] Carbon Monoxide in Red Meat - incompetence in the FDA

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Also red dye is used on meat. I think this is not allowed in USA but in Canada I'm pretty sure it is legal. Joe lres1 wrote: For years the tube lights above the meat storage areas have been emitting slightly red rays to make the meat look red. If you take meat from the meat stall

[Biofuel] Indian Point Nuclear Facility - FYI

2006-03-09 Thread Michael Redler
FYI:I live 2.6 miles from the Indian Point nuclear facility (one of the country's worst safety violators). Yesterday, the civil defense sirens malfunctioned. I quickly got in my car and started heading away from the Hudson until I realized that it was a false alarm.Pandora's box is made of

[Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Research Shows Only two out Six Hybrid Cars Recoup Cost Within 5 Years http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1141917443.news Yonkers, NY - Consumer Reports is revising the cost analysis in a story that examines the ownership costs and financial benefits associated with hybrid

[Biofuel] Ooops! - Re: The Coming Resource Wars

2006-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Sorry for the double post folks, slip of the tongue, er, the thumb, um, the brain... :-( Keith http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/03/07/the_coming_resource_wars.php The Coming Resource Wars Michael T. Klare March 07, 2006 snip ___

Re: [Biofuel] Carbon Monoxide in Red Meat - incompetence in the FDA

2006-03-09 Thread bob allen
In the case of farmed salmon, I believe the dye is added to the diet, not the processed flesh, (not that it makes a lot of difference) http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/123199_dye23.html similarly, the yolks of commercial eggs are yellow only because large amounts of carotenes are added to

[Biofuel] Thanx Keith

2006-03-09 Thread Andy Karpay
Thanks Keith. I'm back IN, receiving, and loving it. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Andrew Netherton
I'll bet that research would show a mighty quick return on investment if they had done the study based on European fuel costs, and not our cheaper-than-bottled-water fuel here in North America. Andrew Netherton On 3/9/06, AltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Research Shows Only two out

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Or for that matter, an off-peak plug-in hybrid.On 3/9/06, Andrew Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'll bet that research would show a mighty quick return on investmentif they had done the study based on European fuel costs, and not our cheaper-than-bottled-water fuel here in North America.Andrew

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Resource Wars

2006-03-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
This is probably accurate prophecy but part of the reason is because it is the business model. A lot of established people want war. If the same effort and expense were put into alternatives there doesnt need to be a war.KirkKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie Andrew Netherton wrote: I'll bet that research would show a mighty quick return on investment if they had done the study based on

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Take a trip to England or anywhere in Europe and don't forget to rent a car while you are there. When you get back tell us how it went! LOL Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Chip Mefford
Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie Would depend on your bottled water. retail bottled water usually runs in excess of $1 per litre. retail

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Here's a link I just found on Google for example http://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htm J Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Hey Andrew don't forget we are sitting on a virtual goldmine in terms of fresh water here in Canada. In many places in the USA I've heard they are already feeling the pinch for water and it is getting worse. I'm wondering if we could set something up where maybe we could use beavers as a slave

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Street
Here's a better one (more current and longer time range) http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water.

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Question is how much does a gallon of bottled water cost in US? Hakan At 19:59 09/03/2006, you wrote: Here's a better one (more current and longer time range) http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.htmlhttp://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html Joe Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread oscar
Hi: I pay 1.18 US per liter of a 90 RON gas for my car in Peru!! Oscar Orbegoso Montalva Jefe del Centro de Servicios Económicos de Tarapoto Proyecto PRA Teléfono fijo 042 522633 / 528244 Teléfono celular 042 9695265 http://www.proyectopra.com -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
I don't how anyone can justify a Hybrid over a diesel. The financial numbers just don't work. My VW TDI gets (243K mile so far) 45 mpg @ City Driving 55 mpg @ 60 mph 50 mpg @ 75 mph My cost is (City)$2.60/45 = 5.8 cents a mile (not including

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread bob allen
particulate emissions? Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD) wrote: I don't how anyone can justify a Hybrid over a diesel. The financial numbers just don't work. My VW TDI gets (243K mile so far) 45 mpg @ City Driving 55 mpg @ 60 mph 50 mpg @ 75 mph My cost is

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread robert luis rabello
bob allen wrote: particulate emissions? That's a good question. How do the modern, common rail direct injection diesel engines fare in terms of their particulate emissions? Does anyone know? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Marty Phee
Depends. Supermarket filtered by the gallon probably runs around $2/gallon. Name brand around $4/gallon to $20/gallon. Home delivered 5 gallon jugs ~$1.80/gallon Same company 24 .5L is $2.20/gallon Hakan Falk wrote: Question is how much does a gallon of bottled water cost in US? Hakan At

Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-03-09 Thread Samira
So where do they plan to find 500,000t of biodiesel to make the B5 blend? i'm stumped. On 3/9/06, Rexis Tree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:There is currently no new plans for more biodiesel refinary for local use as i know. What is in their eye is only business sense, ie to export to europe where the

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
The hybrid could power the house. We could live very differently. And while the hybrid is powering the house if more is needed than is reasonable from the batteries heat is available as well. In fact it would make sense to leave the garage fully charged and have generated where the heat could be

Re: [Biofuel] Carbon Monoxide in Red Meat - incompetence in the FDA

2006-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Bob In the case of farmed salmon, I believe the dye is added to the diet, not the processed flesh, (not that it makes a lot of difference) http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/123199_dye23.html similarly, the yolks of commercial eggs are yellow only because large amounts of carotenes are

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
That means that bottled water is more expensive than gasoline, as I understand, http://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htmhttp://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htm @ $1.453 per gallon. So, what was wrong with the original statement? Nothing as I understand it. Hakan At

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Marty Phee
If you exclude state and fed taxes water is much more valuable than gas. I think gas is 2.39 around me today. Find a spring, put it into a fancy bottle and your rich. Hakan Falk wrote: That means that bottled water is more expensive than gasoline, as I understand,

Re: [Biofuel] bioplastic bottled water WAS hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread marilyn
I saw a bottled water documentary that showed how some companies just take water from a tap and label it spring water. Lab analyses showed many brands had water no cleaner than city water. It also said water bottles people did not recycle ended up as a huge amount of the trash in landfills.

[Biofuel] squeezing every drop of ethanol from corn

2006-03-09 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Squeezing Every Drop of Ethanol From Corn http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1141936056.news Ames, IA - Brent Shanks, an Iowa State University associate professor of chemical and biological engineering, is leading a research team that's working to develop chemical

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread David Miller
Hakan Falk wrote: That means that bottled water is more expensive than gasoline, as I understand, http://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htmhttp://www.bairdpetro.com/gasoline_prices/index.htm @ $1.453 per gallon. So, what was wrong with the original statement? Nothing as I

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
David, I do not understand why it is silly to want to know the facts about the following, Jeromie Reeves wrote: Are you serious? N. America has cheap fuel? Please show me this cheap fuel as I pay WAY more for a gallon of gas then I do a gallon of bottled water. Jeromie Andrew Netherton

Re: [Biofuel] Carbon Monoxide in Red Meat - incompetence in the FDA

2006-03-09 Thread Kenji James Fuse
I always assumed carotene comes from carrots - am I wrong here? Kenji Fuse On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Bob In the case of farmed salmon, I believe the dye is added to the diet, not the processed flesh, (not that it makes a lot of difference)

Re: [Biofuel] Wet Composting

2006-03-09 Thread Rexis Tree
I wish to breed some worms too but my sister, mum, and girl friend surely do not like to have any red worms in the house! ;-) Wait till i got my own place.I used to have a box of earthworms, more like pets although i am planning to do vermiculture. I dug them out from my garden(i used to have a

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-09 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, The cost of water is a funny thing, the smaller the bottle, the more it costs. One gallon of distilled or spring water at Walmart is $0.58 however, a 16.9 oz or 500ml at the check out is $0.99. Other stores are more expensive, but have the same kind of pricing. Bright Blessings,

Re: [Biofuel] first time confusion

2006-03-09 Thread Derick Giorchino
I use red devil in all my bio production with no problems. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Street Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:54 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] first time confusion Hi R. I can't comment on

Re: [Biofuel] Any other lister in Malaysia?

2006-03-09 Thread Rexis Tree
On 3/10/06, Samira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where do they plan to find 500,000t of biodiesel to make the B5 blend? i'm stumped. I recalled that they only mentioned that they can save 500,000t of diesel by mandating B5 in the country, didnt mentioned about where to get this 500,000t thou.

[Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-09 Thread Jason Katie
hi everyone, haven't been posting for a couple months (points to old ISP retches) but i was messing around in my head a few weeks ago and was wondering if there was any simple formula that could be used to digitize and automate a titration of oil as compared to lye for fry-grease diesel. i

Re: [Biofuel] Carbon Monoxide in Red Meat - incompetence in the FDA

2006-03-09 Thread Zeke Yewdall
My friend's chickens eat alot of vegetables we get from the dumpster here. If they get a batch of beets, they produce pink eggs... Normally they vary from brown to tan to white depending on exactly what they are eating that week, and whether they're spending more time indoors out outside due to

[Biofuel] first time confusion

2006-03-09 Thread RicAlls
i suppose i was reluctant to give much detail on the effects i am having with my first batches since i am unsure of the quality of my methanol and lye and was waiting on reliable higher quality material to arrive before i get really confused. however my third batch gave me a slightly cloudy amber