Re: [Biofuel] US Solar Photovoltaics

2004-11-15 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:43 PM Subject: [Biofuel] US Solar Photovoltaics : It's All About the Benjamins More to the point, it's about WHO is getting the Benjamins. Doug --- Outgoing mail is certif

Re: [Biofuel] GE canola class action suit moves forward in Canada

2004-11-13 Thread Doug Younker
Gee, When did "scientific, social and political debate" become not worthy as being a "legitimate legal dispute"? I'm no attorney but, I just hope the plaintiffs have current evidence that the GB has contaminated non-GM crops. With out that the lawsuit is already dead and with it a reasonable ju

Re: [Biofuel] Just found this bit of diesel humor...

2004-11-13 Thread Doug Younker
Entertaining but, respectfully I doubt I will be hearing it sung on the radio. Doug - Original Message - From: "Legal Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Just found this bit of diesel humor... : Mark Shillin

[Biofuel] Filtering WVO

2004-11-09 Thread Doug Younker
How about a settling tank, while the application I have in mind is far removed from WVO the idea should be the same. I can best describe it as a tank inside a tank. The inside tank has no bottom or top and would be placed inside the outer tank with it's "bottom" off the floor of the outer tank.

Re: [Biofuel] Pump Trucks

2004-11-07 Thread Doug Younker
Jeremy, That's pretty broad question. What are your needs and goals? Anything can be built new and custom. Perhaps an used bulk delivery truck used by fuel suppliers and farmers coops may fit your needs. A quick and dirty one could consist of a 1 ton dually with manual tranny with a PTO h

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years -- State IQ and Election Results

2004-11-06 Thread Doug Younker
Well,.. IMO even IF it can be substituted, it's nothing more than one more meaningless statistic in a sea of meaningless statistics being put forth by all parties. Doug - Original Message - From: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years -- State IQ and Election Results

2004-11-06 Thread Doug Younker
Wow! something that can be spun both ways to, fit the "choir one is preaching to" Doug - Original Message - From: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years -- State IQ and Election Results :

[Biofuel] Revisting cool storage- book- "sunshine to dollars"

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, the following link is information for a book for sale but scrolling to the bottom you see the book is suppose to contain information on ice making and home cooling. Doug http://www.knowledgepublications.com/kp_sunshinetodollars.htm "Find out how we made this 25 pound block of ice the girls are

Re: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
OK I admit I should have used a relative phrase " large majority" or something to that effect. IMO those who claim gwb has a mandate from the voters when 49% voted against him are doing a spin. Yes others used spin in the past but, I'm concerned about current spin. I didn't suggest he didn't whe

Re: [Biofuel] the vote

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] the vote : Ross Cannon wrote: : > Hello, : > what a discouraging event : : Don't be disheartened. We had no tanks in the

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
"United We Stand. Divided We Fall". While it seems simple on the face of it, I really never understood what "united" the piece of rhetoric really means. Does it mean I'm required to be complicate in activity what I may believe wrong or immoral? I sorry, given when I see it used it seems to

Re: [Biofuel] A new area someone should "push" biodiesel...

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
But then when the starting loads require a lot of initial torque, a timid throttle application doesn't get the job done and aggressive application of throttle is needed. A perceived excess of excess of exhaust fumes or smoke doesn't neccessarly mean improper operation. Doug --- Outgoing mail is

Re: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
To put to much into the fact that gwb won by an excess of 3.5 millions votes is only spin, when nearly half (49%) of those who voted, voted against gwb. Yet his supporters claim a mandate, near as I can tell they are basing mandate on electoral votes, that would be using skewed statistic because o

Re: [Biofuel] How many forum members does it take?

2004-11-04 Thread Doug Younker
Ah crap, I forgot to buy bulbs when I was in town today. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 10/28/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [

Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-03 Thread Doug Younker
Funny, Either Kerry is lying or those accusing him of lying are lying, who really knows? On the other hand the record proves W a liar in his capacity as President even before 9/11. Vote for the liar who you think will do the least harm I guess. W has proven willing to negotiate with terrorists,

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-11-02 Thread Doug Younker
No problem I wasn't waiting for a prompt response anyway, just bench racing. My mind tends to over build things. I was envisioning something built similar to a hydraulic unit with the screw under tension because it would be stronger under tension than it would be under compression. Respectfully

Re: [biofuel] US political humor

2004-10-31 Thread Doug Younker
Well... If edited to eliminate the spin the following is accurate and not humorous but, scary. Doug - Original Message - From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] US political humor : Social Security: : The Ev

Re: [Biofuel] The Oil Barons Are Happy

2004-10-31 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: "Legal Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:11 AM Subject: [Biofuel] The Oil Barons Are Happy Is it a coincidence that there is new explorations going on in the oil industry, or do the high prices have something

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-28 Thread Doug Younker
But from what I can tell the ecology of forests is much more complicated than the planting and harvesting cycle of most commercial crops and of the common back yard garden. I'm sure man can duplicate nature's harvest cycle but, would that meet the needs of man? Most likely not, because one r

Re: [Biofuel] Massey Ferguson tractors- OK for biodiesel?

2004-10-26 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: "Ken Riznyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Massey Ferguson tractors- OK for biodiesel? : : How can Canada be the USA's best friend; they didn't : send any troops to Iraq. I think we

Re: [Biofuel] Conversation with a Conservative -was: Kerry & left

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Oh come on, it's silly to give GWB credit for doing something he had no choice but to do. No matter who occupied the white house on 9/11/2001 wouldn't had no choice but, to declare war on the Al Quida operations in Afghanistan, they may or may not have began a war in Iraq so ill prepared, if the

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
While I'm sure that there are many factors involved in selecting a launch site but, Kodiak Island http://www.akaerospace.com/klc/ has to be pretty far from the equator. Doug - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:13 PM Subj

Re: [Biofuel] Swamp cooler-cool storage

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Forgive the nitpicking. This couldn't be a %100 passive at my home. I'm on my own private well and it would take power to pump water up to the top of the cooling tower. In reference to the cool storage thread, I managed to find a copy of a book recommended in that thread and in that boo

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Daryl, You have me pondering this screw powered splitter. Would you arrange it so the screw is under tension or compression on the splitting stroke? What style of thread would you use, would you use a single or double helix? IMO Greg probably has the simple method of taking up the slack. D

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Greg I'm not here to argue, as they say one more than one way to skin a cat and one will use that works out best for them. Anyway because of the exchange, I and others who may have been following learned new ways to skin the cat. Later... Doug - Original Message - From: "Greg

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-24 Thread Doug Younker
Well... yea..., I meant hi volume, low pressure :). Yes an adjustable base or dead would work to take up the slack, but that would include an extra step in the process. Could be toss-up which would be the faster way. Anyway it looks like some beat me to the dual pump idea. Not that I would ever

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
Well... that answered my question, didn't it Doug - Original Message - From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies) : : TWO SPEED, 10 TON HYDRAULIC LOG SPLITTE

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Employ springs to draw the wedge back to start. Trick is to find that spring that is strong enough to do the job and not appreciably add to the splitting stroke effort. Doug - Original Message - From: "Darryl McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, O

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
If one where to pump hydraulics by hand it would be nice to have a pump that would pump at a low volume/low pressure to "take up the slack" and be able to switch to low volume/high pressure to actually split the wood. I wonder if anything like that exists as a stock item? Doug - Original Mes

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-Marshall Plan

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, After reading of operation keelhaul, I now longer can use the phrase "Marshall Plan" in a way synonymous with good actions. Doug, N0LKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christ is not a Republican nor is he a Democrat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http:/

Re: [Biofuel] Gennies and off grid in Texas

2004-10-22 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Kim; the task is not and doesn't have to be as, daunting as it sounds. A single axle trailer could be used to transport it from the dock to your home but, using a tandem axle trailer may feel more comfortable on the road, if you have drive a long distance or will encounter a lot of traffi

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-socialism?

2004-10-22 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, I'm having difficulty finding information that details what countries have capitalist, communist or socialist economies, can anyone help? Lately I have been reading many proclamations that most of the world is socialist. Whenever they write or speak further it becomes evident they are co

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-22 Thread Doug Younker
I'm no fan of Bill Clinton and he his administration was dealing with the Taliban terrorists on that darn pipeline for a time, they did wake up and saw the folly and ceased dealing with them, to have Bush renew the negotiations. Clinton era intelligence was what used to set up conditions so they

Re: [Biofuel] Gennies and off grid in Texas

2004-10-21 Thread Doug Younker
While I can't recall the exact time frame, late 70s early/mid 80s a local independent oil producer found it cost effective to operate their own power plant and run a small oil field off grid. This is not to say the case would be the same for Kim or anyone else, just says the idea is worth resear

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-21 Thread Doug Younker
Well it was the adults who elected gwb in 2000. A man even prior to 9-11 who was proven eager to lie or waffle, however you want to put it, if it served his ends. Worse yet who was effectively willing to deal with the Taliban terrorists on Nov. 10, 2001. Using gwb's own rhetoric to judge him by,

Re: [Biofuel] Trees and power companies

2004-10-20 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, There *may* be a way to keep both the trees and the grid connection if all parties are agreeable to one idea and if the trees of subject affect Kim only. Move the meter to a point before the trees, with Kim agreeing to take on maintainence of the line going through the trees and assuming

Re: [Biofuel] Battery chargers

2004-10-20 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Using a storage battery in conjunction with a battery charger is a time proven 12V power supply. When a battery that has enough capacity is used it can handle the start up loads presented by any device drawing power from the supply. As well as smooth any ripple present from the battery cha

Re: [Biofuel] Trees and power companies

2004-10-20 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, I have read similar stories from other Texans, but never heard that the trees to be cut where on utility right away or not. If on the right of way they are the power companies trees, even if someone else planted them. Kim's decision is to keep the trees and let go of the power company, o

Re: [Biofuel] (Off Topic) Fair Debates

2004-09-29 Thread Doug Younker
Respectfully Richard; did you miss the bulletin? The two major political parties and their candidates do not want meaningful debates. Neither are prepared to answer tough intelligent questions, so they don't allow such questions to be asked, by anyone. They "debate" at their pleasure and the de

Re: Italian tuneup - was RE: [Biofuel] Putting O2 to the air input

2004-09-26 Thread Doug Younker
Hey While I really don't care, but when did the Italians lay claim to and/or give such a high falutin' name to what previously was refereed to; "blowing the cobs out"? "Italian tune up", I don't see the term catching on around here :) Doug --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by

Re: [Biofuel] Ice Farming in the desert

2004-09-24 Thread Doug Younker
e book are "cooling towers" for homes. : Steve M. : : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Behalf Of Doug Younker : Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 1:45 PM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot c

Re: [Biofuel] ExxonMobil wants restrictions on oil exploration --all of them -- removed

2004-09-22 Thread Doug Younker
Hey Keith, Thanks for the link to additional information. Take awhile absorb all that. Doug - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ExxonMobil wants restrictions on oil explora

Re: [Biofuel] ExxonMobil wants restrictions on oil exploration -- all of them -- removed

2004-09-20 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Where OPEC is able to do, what the major oil companies can't do because of trust and other laws in their home countries, I always suspected OPEC was formed at the direction of the majors. Where the nationalization of the oil industry of the oil fields in some Mid East countries was so profit

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate - solar.

2004-09-20 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Interesting; another post said the Egyptians form ice at night, by ice forming do you mean the water froze into block of ice? I would guess that a bit of ice forming may suggest that it may be possible to transfer the heat in a cool room to the night time sky. Are there any practical ex

Re: [Biofuel] solar ac list

2004-09-19 Thread Doug Younker
Evilly Grinning. Who would we dump one if it where not for Yahoo? I have gotten waay much more for than I paid for from yahoo, I for one hopes the advertising keeps paying their bills. Doug - Original Message - From: "rb trans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate

2004-09-19 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Sounds great Kim. I wish you success and look forward to any reports you choose to make. Later... Doug, N0LKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [B

Re: [Biofuel] Kerry preferred around World - Poll

2004-09-17 Thread Doug Younker
Kinda depends on how you define "true liberal" HS. There would be no USA if it's founders where the conservatives of their age instead, of the liberals of their age. The true liberal is NOT the far left winger, the radical right would have us believe. The radical right has successfully bastardi

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate@#$

2004-09-16 Thread Doug Younker
TECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : hi doug, was it passive solarr enerby by edward mazria,, mf-23-544, i found : lotss or freferrences to this one,, buck : : >From: "Doug Younker"

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate

2004-09-16 Thread Doug Younker
I'm sure they have material on modern methods Buck. However the thread has been how is was done before refrigeration was available. There may very will be some older printed material archived *somewhere* thus my comment "it may take hours of research". I hoping Kim finds it and reports her dis

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate - solar.

2004-09-15 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, But, to create ice wouldn't that require the night time temperatures to get to freezing? Even if the goal was to cool a heat sink, power is still would be required. Doug - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:4

Re: [Biofuel] Kerry preferred around World - Poll

2004-09-15 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, The terms "socialist" and " democratic" are misused here, IMO. Socialism is an economic model, not a government model The capitalists biggest fear has to be a successful self-governed socialist society. But where capitalists define success as maximized profit they would never recognize

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate

2004-09-14 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, I just recalled an article that was in a Rodale Press monthly publication that was a passive refrigerator, ice box to be accurate, project. As I recall it had a refrigerant loop with the condenser outside the building under the shaded eaves of theroof and the evaporator an insulated box

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate

2004-09-14 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Keith thanks for the reminder of an excellent resource. From Kim's posts it seems the conditions in that part of Texas may not allow for many of those idea be put to use. Too bad foxfire like projects didn't occur in all regions of the U. S. to preserve the history of the old ways, tha

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate

2004-09-11 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, An example of why cool room storage may not be possible in a hot climate. One has to live in a climate that has winter temperatures to create ice for it to be harvested and stored. Even in Kansas we have winters where it isn't cold enough for enough consecutive days to great quality ice i

Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate

2004-09-11 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, I hope this don't come out the wrong way because I mean to try to help. Kim, I don't know where you need this cool storage, are you assuming there was cool storage before electrical power was available or do you have historical evidence of such cool storage? In the event that historical

Re: [Biofuel] Putting O2 to the air input

2004-09-10 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, You indicate you feel you have a problem with the air/fuel mixture. I'm no diesel mechanic, but wouldn't examining how much fuel is being injected as well as insuring air flow isn't being impeded the place start? Doug - Original Message - From: "Teoman Naskali" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [biofuel] Re: Drums

2000-10-15 Thread Doug Younker
up with a bigger mess. Regards Doug Younker

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