Re: [Biofuel] Propane - ABio fuel?

2005-07-21 Thread Greg Harbican
Not to cause a problem, but, most of the time, the fuel bought at stores is Propane ( sometimes MAPP gas or even Butane ) not NG.NG requires special handling procedures and compressors, that are not common except at NG terminals ( this is part of why NG powered cars are few and far between ).

Re: [Biofuel] Harnessing hurricane/tornado power

2005-07-21 Thread Greg Harbican
Perhaps, but, what path will a hurricane follow? Not even NOAA, can guess more than 10 minutes out with any major degree of accuracy.For that matter, anything more than about an hour, has a very large margin of error, and even then the hurricane can still do something unexpected. Greg H.

Re: [Biofuel] Harnessing hurricane/tornado power

2005-07-20 Thread Greg Harbican
Hurricanes and tornadoes are much to random / erratic to even consider using for power. Greg H. - Original Message - From: r [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 13:31 Subject: [Biofuel] Harnessing hurricane/tornado power Would it be

Re: [Biofuel] Homemade Shredder was: Compost Update

2005-07-18 Thread Greg Harbican
Keith, I have been trying the link below, and all I get is an 'Error 404' message. Is it a good link? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:05 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Homemade Shredder was:

Re: [Biofuel] Homemade Shredder was: Compost Update

2005-07-18 Thread Greg Harbican
That one work's. Thanks, Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:01 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Homemade Shredder was: Compost Update Ump... Twice in a row. Do you know what a Web archives is?

Re: [Biofuel] emissions

2005-07-08 Thread Greg Harbican
No. The same amount of CO2, is used by the oil producing plants, as they grow. Greg H. - Original Message - From: john owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 19:13 Subject: [Biofuel] emissions here's a tought What will happen if the

Re: [Biofuel] re property taking supreme court

2005-07-01 Thread Greg Harbican
Private companies / corporations exercising eminent domain is not really anything new. Here in Colorado, we are learning about it, the hard way. There has been a law on the books, since shortly after Colorado became a state, that has allowed private companies / corporations, to exercise eminent

[Biofuel] Napier Deltic Engines

2005-07-01 Thread Greg Harbican
Today while researching PT boats of WW2 and their younger cousins, thePTF's of the 1960's, I came across a engine called the Napier Deltic. I was very intrigued with the idea of a high speed 2 cycle diesel, that used opposed pistons. http://www.ptfnasty.com/ptfDeltic.html

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel tank specs.

2005-06-10 Thread Greg Harbican
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Harbican Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:24 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel tank specs. Use a couple of 275 gal IBC tote tanks.As seen here ( near the bottom of the page

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel tank specs.

2005-06-09 Thread Greg Harbican
Use a couple of 275 gal IBC tote tanks.As seen here ( near the bottom of the page ): http://www.longnow.org/rhino/BioDiesel.htm They are cheep, and you can station them at different places to fuel 2 vehicles at the same time. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Chuck Elsholz [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-07 Thread Greg Harbican
I believe allot of the problems surrounding this issue, comes from Articles 4 and 5 of the Geneva Convention. @@ http://www.pchrgaza.org/Intifada/Protected_pers.conv.htm Art. 4. Persons protected by the Convention are those who, at a given moment and in any manner whatsoever, find

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-07 Thread Greg Harbican
I guess your just assuming that, because, I don't agree with your assessment. Like I said before, It does not seam to be anymore than the white washing that was done several years ago, just more along the lines of a few recruiters, being more extreme. Greg H. - Original Message -

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-07 Thread Greg Harbican
sts reporting that there are noWMD's and you realize that your purpose in the militaryhas changed from that of defender, to that ofconqueror. ...they cry"Not fair!" Mike Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, up till 9/11 most people entered

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
) is the impressment of citizens into service. But that doesn't mean that impressment is not a tactic at levels other than physical (see the re-up link above). Todd Swearingen Greg Harbican wrote: Todd, could you elaborate on deceptive, predatory and intimidating ? Greg H. - Original Message

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
No, up till 9/11 most people entered the military for one of two reasons. The first and most popular reason is Education. They think that it will be an easy way the get an education, without having to work hard to get a scholarship or the need for a loan. The second reason, is that they

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
It's true, if you have the qualification for it and get a MOS guarantee. It's simple you get the guarantee and you read the fine print, before you sign on the dotted line. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Hans Reuchlin To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent:

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
Check out the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice ). Then follow that up with Geneva Convention and Hague Convention, and that will give you a good idea of what illegal is to the military. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To:

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-03 Thread Greg Harbican
Todd, could you elaborate on deceptive, predatory and intimidating ? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 09:31 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

Re: [Biofuel] Stir vs Pump Processing

2005-05-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Now I'm not sure about the differences between clear water pumps and trash pumps, but, for mixing purposes, wouldn't a trash / sludge pump that grinds up any soft solids, do a better job at mixing, due to the 'grinding' / shearing / action? Greg H.

Re: [Biofuel] Hemp oil

2005-05-09 Thread Greg Harbican
5 to 20 years with time off for good behavior?;-) Greg H. - Original Message - From: JanWarnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 01:28 Subject: [Biofuel] Hemp oil Hwllo everybody. Does anybody know of a good average iodine number for hemp oil ?

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Greg Harbican
That is entirely correct. It's a feel good solution. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:48 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place Hi Greg, You are right. When one starts thinking

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Greg Harbican
What is you basis for the comment? What we want to know, is what proof do you have for making it?We want to know, because it sounds like something out of 'Alice in Wonderland' Greg H. - Original Message - From: JD2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Greg Harbican
You still run into H2 storage issues. You would have to spend days making H2 just to run the fireplace for a few of hrs. Why bother? It is more efficient to use the energy in another manor. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] hydrogen fire place

2005-04-25 Thread Greg Harbican
And how much more energy is going to be wasted, generating all the necessary H2? What a joke. If anyone want to buy the fireplace, I want to know, I have a bridge to sell them, in San Francisco CA. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Which Oil is Best

2005-04-25 Thread Greg Harbican
This is just way to much to contemplate, first thing in the morning. I don't drink, but, this might drive me to it. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 05:29 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Which Oil is

Re: [Biofuel] hydrogen fire place

2005-04-25 Thread Greg Harbican
. - Original Message - From: Frantz DESPREZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 09:21 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] hydrogen fire place Greg Harbican a Žcrit : (...) If anyone want to buy the fireplace, I want to know, I have a bridge to sell them, in San Francisco CA

Re: [Biofuel] Which Oil is Best

2005-04-25 Thread Greg Harbican
Perhaps just drinking some OJ, deleting the message, and going back to bed for a few more hours would work as well.LOL Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 09:48 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Which Oil is

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things!

2005-04-19 Thread Greg Harbican
Actualy I think that most Americans, want to drive a tank ( I can tell you, that 62 tons of steel doing 45 cross country is real fun, having done it for a part of my life ) Greg H. - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18,

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things!

2005-04-19 Thread Greg Harbican
Personally, I think it would be real fun to drive one into downtown LA, just to frustrate all the tail gaters... ..besides they are BioDiesel compatible. LOL Greg H. - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things!

2005-04-19 Thread Greg Harbican
cross country now. you are right though its more fun that 4 people should be allowed to have. - Original Message - From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things! Actualy I think

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things!

2005-04-19 Thread Greg Harbican
I was going to say, that without it, we could do the same thing. Only problem was, ours were inspected every so often to make sure that they were still intact. Greg H. - Original Message - From: J.L.Burney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 08:41

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things!

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Harbican
I'm planning on BioDiesel as well as alcohol / water injection, a turbo, as well as the bigger engine.All three, combined should allow me to lean out the fuel and give better hill climbing performance. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Go Hoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things!

2005-04-18 Thread Greg Harbican
I think that part of it, is the long distances in the western US.I have heard that larger vehicles and SUV's are more popular where the distances between cities is farther apart.Does anyone know of any statistics that may show the size of vehicles by state? One thing I can say for sure,

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel moped car...2 things!

2005-04-17 Thread Greg Harbican
I suspect that the reason that the smaller engine get's worse mileage, is the fact that their is a point with all other things being equal, that smaller engines have to work harder to move the same amount of weight, with a corresponding increase in fuel use.This is more evident on hills and

Re: [Biofuel] Sunflower Oil

2005-04-10 Thread Greg Harbican
Peanut oil is very stable. It will go along time before going rancid. Greg H. - Original Message - From: TLC Orchids and Such [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:21 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sunflower Oil Sunflower oil has an IV of 133. This is even

Re: [Biofuel] Moody's downgrades GM to the brink of junk status

2005-04-09 Thread Greg Harbican
And at first glance at the subject line, I thought, Wow someone has it right, GM food is junk. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 16:29 Subject: [Biofuel] Moody's downgrades GM to the brink of junk

Re: [Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-08 Thread Greg Harbican
Actualy if one wanted to bring the BTU's of biodiesel up, mixing with a little Avtur might be a thought. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 19:12 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kerosene Is this true Kerosene or is it

Re: [Biofuel] Where's Keith?

2005-03-29 Thread Greg Harbican
Glad you are better Keith. Anytime you are down and need a quick pick-me-up, ask for an organically produced IV .The resulting look is priceless, and make me feel better. LOL Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Biofuel] Process Question

2005-03-28 Thread Greg Harbican
Bill, I am thinking that if you heat the oil for processing, then draw of a given amount and measure the amount while the rest is going into the processor, you shouldn't have any volume issues. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Bill Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Biofuel] Fw: [aquaponics] sailwing pump

2005-03-25 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: Paul Range To: aquaponics List Member Cc: Bon 1seed Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 18:57 Subject: [aquaponics] sailwing pump Here is second generation of the sailwing pump on my site. www.oneseedling.com enjoy. For those who missed the Aquaponics

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: [aquaponics] sailwing pump

2005-03-25 Thread Greg Harbican
Your welcome. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 07:31 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: [aquaponics] sailwing pump Greetings, Thank you for this forward, it is an interesting site with many things that

Re: [Biofuel] Problems with the Biofuel list

2005-03-22 Thread Greg Harbican
??? What problems? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 20:18 Subject: [Biofuel] Problems with the Biofuel list I would like to apologize for the technical problems that have occured with regard

[Biofuel] Nitrogen fixing trees [ was: Multiple Uses of Forests - Methods.)

2005-03-15 Thread Greg Harbican
I have found the forest thread of interest. OTOH, it has sparked a few questions, that I can't seem to find the answers for, and I am hoping that members of the list can assist me. Most temperate climates don't seem to have, but with a few exceptions, very many species of legume trees.In

Re: [Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests

2005-03-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Keith, is this it: Woodland crafts in Britain: An account of the traditional uses of trees and timbers in the British countryside by Herbert L Edlin, Publisher: David and Charles - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11,

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms ... and vegetarians

2005-03-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Look up Amaranth. The seed has all the amino acids ( in nutritional quantities ), and the young leaves, can be used raw or cooked. Greg H. - Original Message - From: jon forster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 05:29 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning

Re: [Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests

2005-03-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Still looks like a book I would like to read. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:42 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests Hello Greg Keith, is this it: Woodland crafts in Britain:

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Greg Harbican
Know of any good anti-oxidants that are readily available? The reason I ask, is that it might not be a bad idea to use some with mystery oil. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 17:59 Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice forBD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Greg Harbican
choice forBD making?] Greg Harbican wrote: Know of any good anti-oxidants that are readily available? The reason I ask, is that it might not be a bad idea to use some with mystery oil. BHA (Butylated hydroxyanisole), BHT (Butylated hydroxytoluene), and TBHQ (Tertiary Butyl

[Biofuel] Air travel ( was Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science )

2005-03-03 Thread Greg Harbican
For the longest time, air travel was the domain of the rich, then the cost fell. When the cost of fuel causes the price to climb back to high level's it will be again. Was air travel ever Appropriate Technology? I don't know.For some cases I think so. My wife's family held a family

Re: [Biofuel] recent news items of interest

2005-03-03 Thread Greg Harbican
If they do, I think that they will open themselves up for a lawsuit because not all miles are put 'On road'. And it's the big trucks that pass through states that put the majority of the wear and tear on the hwy. Greg H. - Original Message - From: info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-02 Thread Greg Harbican
Sorry about the delay, I been busy with illness and the furnace installation. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:51 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science Hello Greg

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-02 Thread Greg Harbican
Your right, the V2 used ethanol, in fact it was 75%/25% - ethanol/water, but, it required liquid oxygen as the oxidizer.With liquid O2 ( LOx ), they achieved a much hotter burn than they would have otherwise.The V2 also had a burn time of about 50 - 80 seconds, most of the flight, the V2

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-24 Thread Greg Harbican
Sorry for not getting back sooner, it's been a little hectic in the last couple of days. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:10 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Harbican
or 7 orders of magnitude. Let's keep our carbon budgets in perspective here. Greg Harbican wrote: Bob Ken You are both correct for the most part, but, I would like to point out a few things that you may want to consider, that make me disagree with parts of your statements

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 07:29 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science In one form or another yes, but which form, and for how long? That is a big part of the

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-22 Thread Greg Harbican
Bob Ken You are both correct for the most part, but, I would like to point out a few things that you may want to consider, that make me disagree with parts of your statements.. Decomposing plant material is not totaly carbon neutral nor steady state. After all where did coal come from, but,

Re: [Biofuel] Soap aerated concrete

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Harbican
I don't know about using soap, but, professionals make it by mixing in aluminum chips. The aluminum reacts with the calcium hydroxide, and produces aluminum hydroxide and H2 gas. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday,

Re: [Biofuel] IRS Extension

2005-02-13 Thread Greg Harbican
That may be, but, in many cases people are still finding about such an important subject. In many cases, there has been to many cases that are important, with some if not many things left unsaid, because 'someone' decided that the subject didn't need that much discussion. It's obvious from

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine soap making

2005-02-12 Thread Greg Harbican
I like using avocado oil my self. Menthol makes a nice addition to bathroom soap.It is really nice to shave with. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 09:13 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-09 Thread Greg Harbican
They can try, but, they don't have the authority.One rental car company was taken to court over it, and lost big time because they fined a guy that went 20 mph over, by charging it to his credit card. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-08 Thread Greg Harbican
My wife is a claims adjuster for one of the largest private insurance companies here in the US ( one of the reasons that I don't worry about my driving.I would never hear the end of it if I messed up. LOL ), and last night I thought to ask her about the black boxes. It took me 10 min. of

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-07 Thread Greg Harbican
You had better believe it, it has been used to put more than one person behind bars, and without a warrant. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 21:09 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box But I

Re: [Biofuel] Re: New method for the production of home made bio-diesel

2005-02-07 Thread Greg Harbican
Why not make your own 'Water Heater'? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Dana Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 21:35 Subject: [Biofuel] Re: New method for the production of home made bio-diesel I am building the Appleseed reactor and

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-06 Thread Greg Harbican
Doesn't mean I have to like it, or put up with it, if I have a choice - which in this case I do. Greg H. - Original Message - From: info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 18:19 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box The average joe is

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-05 Thread Greg Harbican
One of the reasons I like older vehicles. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 08:11 Subject: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1id=75424 Your car

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-05 Thread Greg Harbican
I don't like the idea of forcing people like that. I believe in an after life, and even if they are not held responsible in this life, I believe that they will be held responsible there, for the good or bad that they cause in the here and now. Yes, personal response ability is good, but, I

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements - My thoughts

2005-01-22 Thread Greg Harbican
I use standard and metric almost interchangeably for something's, although for others I will use one or the other almost exclusively. When dealing with wood and carpentry, I use standard almost exclusively. When doing what work I can on vehicles, I interchange. When driving, I

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-21 Thread Greg Harbican
Colorado, about an hour south of Denver.Summer or winter it's cool in the basement. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 17:03 Subject: RE: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-21 Thread Greg Harbican
Nice place. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 09:45 Subject: Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood G'day Greg; You are very (very) close to some people I

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Greg Harbican
Did I understand this ( and the process in general ) properly? You can eat your mushrooms and then turn what is left into alcohol? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Juan Boveda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 09:10 Subject: RE: patents,

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Greg Harbican
I guess what I am asking ( but doing poorly at ) is, would this be a viable small industry? Cultivate edible mushrooms, then process what is left of the woody material, into alcohol? Just one or the other, might be feasible and even economically sound, but, to be able to recover food and fuel

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Greg Harbican
It's been a while, last time I was up that direction, it wasn't much, I take it, that it has grown? Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 16:53 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines I have driven past the large

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Greg Harbican
I know the plane exist, but, an electric aircraft with electrical wind generators, that generates more power than it consumes, is. And your right about it falling out of the sky, it can barely get out of it's own way when conditions are optimum which they never for long.Did you see pictures

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Greg Harbican
An electrically powered machine, that produces more electricity than it uses, is a perpetual motion machine, even if it flies. Solar powered aircraft fly, only through the use of the best conducting wire, the strongest rare earth permanent magnets and solar cells with the highest power to weight

[Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Greg Harbican
Wind Turbines AP Colorado is one of two states in the running for a plant that would build the nation's largest wind turbines. Clipper Windpower of California is expected to decide by the end of the month whether to build the turbines in Colorado or Nevada. The manufacturing plant would

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Greg Harbican
NE Colorado has a lot of wind and allot of grassland.It is said that the reason that it's grassland, is that the wind blows all the snow and rain to Kansas. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:19

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Greg Harbican
I have no idea. My personal opinion?I think that trying to tap the jet stream is not feasible, due to the fact that the jet stream is to un-predictable.The cost of building any one device, able to tap 300+ mph winds, are going to be astronomical, and since the jet stream moves about (

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Greg Harbican
Feed lots have a lot of manure to, but, no grass. So like feedlots, politicians must be fed, good feed, only to turn it into manure. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:24 Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Greg Harbican
Don't want to rain on your parade, but, perpetual motion machines don't exist. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 13:32 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wind

Re: [Biofuel] old diesel engine

2004-11-30 Thread Greg Harbican
Depends on the engine.My diesel engine is a 20 yr old Toyota 3B ( V4 ), not common in the US, but in most cases plenty of parts are still available from Canada and a few specialty places here in the US.Shop manual is available online as well. Greg H. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative Jet Fuel / Cetane Addative?

2004-11-12 Thread Greg Harbican
: Thursday, November 11, 2004 19:22 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alternative Jet Fuel / Cetane Addative? I'd try a Cetane addative. This works with convetntional diesel in boosting HP and helps with freezing. Regards, JQ Cave Creek, Aridzona Greg Harbican wrote: Needs to have 2 critical things

Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal

2004-11-12 Thread Greg Harbican
Is not a matter of thermal moderation that is needed, but, a speed moderator, to slow down a neutron, so it can be caught by one element, making another heaver element.If you have high speed, then you would get elements that break down into lighter elements about as soon as it gets hit by

Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal

2004-11-11 Thread Greg Harbican
They use ( or used to ) Thorium nitrate as the main source of the bright white glow, emitted by lantern mantels, for Coleman type gas lanterns. It might be interesting if the thorium could be filtered / collected and recycled for this purpose, and made for bio-gas illumination. Greg H. -

Re: [Biofuel] Bush stands by rejection of limits ongasesblamedforglobal warming

2004-11-11 Thread Greg Harbican
In the case of the company I used to work for, the biggest contract that they had was bought out, buy another company. The new company then spent 8 months looking at were they could cut corners, then with 3 days notice, told my company that they were going to do the work in house, and so we lost

Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal

2004-11-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Don't you mean heavy water reactor? Light water does nothing to promote fusion, because it does not slow down neutrons so that they will combine with other atoms. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative Jet Fuel

2004-11-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Needs to have 2 critical things addressed to be viable: 1)Flows well at sub-zero temps. 2)A BTU value as high or higher than the fossil fuel, that is currently used. I don't know of any BioFuel with those qualities. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Farmer [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Curious

2004-11-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Good one, although I know the answer to a few of those. The one that has me scratching my head is: Why is it, that we are no longer with Yahoo, but, for the last day or so, I have been getting double and triple of everything? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Mel Riser [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Curious

2004-11-11 Thread Greg Harbican
Maybe I should say most everything, although now for some things it is quadruple post's. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 14:09 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Curious Good one, although I know

Re: [Biofuel] Bush stands by rejection of limits on gases blamedfor global warming

2004-11-10 Thread Greg Harbican
I can't blame the lost of my job, on Bush. I know of many others that could / would say the same thing - most of them have new jobs, since G Bush entered office.I expect to be employed soon, even if it is part time, but, working part time is of my own choosing.I have also started a small

Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-10 Thread Greg Harbican
I have to disagree. We can have faith in God, but, we have to trust that men did what god wanted them to do - that is to say, not change what god put forth. While it may seam like I'm saying much of what you are, I see it as something different, as faith and trust while they may have similar

Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-10 Thread Greg Harbican
You put words into my mouth. I did not say that I have faith that they indeed are telling true stories . Again, faith and trust are different things, even though they have been used by some people interchangeably. Faith is belief in that which is not provable, by means available. Trust is

Re: [Biofuel] Bush stands by rejection of limits on gases blamedforglobal warming

2004-11-10 Thread Greg Harbican
I would say more than one case.Over 75% of the work force, of that company, ended up like me - out of work. I know that the company is now back up to about 40% of it's original size, and has been slowly growing for the last 2 years, but they have had to diversify in the process. Greg H.

Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Taxes

2004-11-09 Thread Greg Harbican
The home heating oil and the diesel at thru pumps is the same, but for 2 minor differences. Diesel at the pumps is Diesel #2 Home heating oil is Diesel #4 ( with Diesel #2 slop over ), the same as Diesel #2, but, the average carbon chain is longer ( higher BTU's ). The heating oil may or may

Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Taxes

2004-11-09 Thread Greg Harbican
Kerosene, is basically #1 diesel.Kerosene in general is just highly refined #1 diesel. The differences are: Little to no sulfur ( possible give away as far as smell is concerned ) Lower BTU ( shorter than average carbon chains, than standard diesel ) Dry ( little to no

Re: [Biofuel] Fly the fatty skies ( obesity increases pollution )

2004-11-07 Thread Greg Harbican
with the next person when I don't even know the name. Peggy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Harbican Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Fly the fatty

Re: [Biofuel] Was Pump Trucks--Now Tailgaters

2004-11-07 Thread Greg Harbican
I usually do one of two things, smile and wave at them by way of the mirror ( then ignore them ) or gear down for few seconds leaving a big cloud of black smoke in their face ( it is absolutely amazing how fast they back off in the summer when they have the windows down, not to mention a little

Re: [Biofuel] Was Pump Trucks--Now Tailgaters

2004-11-07 Thread Greg Harbican
That's what they think. Remember, anything can be used as a weapon, even the vehicle I'm driving. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 09:34 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Was Pump Trucks--Now Tailgaters as

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel processors

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Harbican
Amzi, This is the worst case of spam I have seen in a long time.I don't know how new you are to the list, but, near as I can tell you have less than a dozen post's to the list, and don't know the people here at all. Handling these chemicals at home or on a small scale is dangerous

Re: [Biofuel] re:galvanized tanks

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Harbican
Luc, I get a The requested URL could not be retrieved , when trying this one. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 17:39 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re:galvanized tanks

Re: [Biofuel] the vote

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Harbican
Grab my collar, and see what happens. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Ross Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 07:42 Subject: [Biofuel] the vote I want to grab them by their

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