Corn-based ethanol to fuel Indy 500
LIBBY QUAID
Associated Press
Mar. 02, 2005
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/politics/11033860.htm
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ETHANOL TO FUEL THE INDYCAR SERIES!
3/3/2005
http://www.pauldana.com/pages/whatsnew.asp?whatarticleID=20
WASHINGTON,
Coal-to-Methanol Promising Alternative to Oil... Again
Source: Institute for the Analysis of Global Security
[Mar 29, 2005]
http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communiquenewsid=8028
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The Ethanol Conundrum
Source: U.C. Berkeley
[Apr 02, 2005]
U.C. Berkeley study finds
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:00:22 -0800 (PST)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol runs mini hydogen fuel cells
Thomas, Regarding ethanol and methanol. I spoke with a
gentlmen named David Devrie at Genesis Fuel Technology
involved in methanol and ethanol reformers.
http
cell phone and laptops well over a year ago here in the US or it might
have been in Canada.
the stuff should be on the shelves by now !!!
...
I think its all a big conspiracy the battery companys are now
suppressing the introduction of these things... just the same as big oil
has been
It's not a conspiracy. Fuel cells are more expensive than batteries, so
there is no economic incentive to productize them.
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From: Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol runs mini hydogen fuel
Thomas, Regarding ethanol and methanol. I spoke with a
gentlmen named David Devrie at Genesis Fuel Technology
involved in methanol and ethanol reformers.
http://www.genesisfueltech.com/index.html
He said methanol is easier to crack and catalyze
than ethanol because it has only one carbon and
The Japanese have developed small hydrogen fuel cells using ethanol stored
in a container based on the disposable cigarette lighter technology to power
small appliances like laptop computers etc. Obviously, to be able to produce
your own ethanol and run hydrogen fuel cells with it is a major
Ethanol Crossroads: Decision at Chambersburg
NICHOLAS E. HOLLIS, AGRIBUSINESS COUNCIL: Nestled in the Cumberland
Valley of central Pennsylvania, this town of 18,000 Cambersburg has
seen some unique history. During the Civil War --- it became the only
town north of the Mason-Dixon line to be
On Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:05 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
Commentary:
Ethanol Crossroads: Decision at Chambersburg
...
Of course, the ethanolers aren't mentioning the downsides of the
project - such as toxic emissions, odors, huge water treatment and
waste disposal issues, rail and traffic
-
From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:51 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol stove and barbeque
Ethanol vapor? Am I the only one looking for a hole in the ground
around
here? I'm taking the pup's down the hole with me John, just in case
Ethanol vapor? Am I the only one looking for a hole in the ground around
here? I'm taking the pup's down the hole with me John, just in case!
Hi Anti Fossil,
I think you are over reacting. The plenum on a propane BBQ is a flat plenum
with the holes in the bottom. I think, and this is only
An ethanol BBQ ? You do know what you are doing right ? This is not a gas
gas, it is a liquid gas, like gasoline, and in fact can be substituted for
gasoline in many applications.
(REPLY)
Nope! I don't know what I am doing this is all experimentation. If I ever
get a chance to try it. I plan to
Anybody achieved this the result of the absolute alcohol process?
JD2005
P.S. I saw a Duralog product for sale at our local hardware store, here in
Banbury near Oxford, UK.Easy to light burns for two hours!I was
reminded of the milk carton, wood shavings and glycerin log detailed at
: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol stove and barbeque
An ethanol BBQ ? You do know what you are doing right ? This is not a
gas
gas, it is a liquid gas, like gasoline, and in fact can be substituted
Hi,
New to the list so I have a lot of catching up to do.. The ethanol
barbeque that I am working on uses wate from restaurants to make the mash
ie potato peelings and apple peelings . The still is a used eletric hot
water heater with two elements one on the bottom and one on the top should
: [Biofuel] ethanol stove and barbeque
Hi,
New to the list so I have a lot of catching up to do.. The ethanol
barbeque that I am working on uses wate from restaurants to make the mash
ie potato peelings and apple peelings . The still is a used eletric hot
water heater with two elements one
New Rules Project - Agriculture - Ethanol and Biodiesel Production -
Small Scale
Ethanol and Biodiesel Production - Focus on Scale and Cooperative Ownership
The conversion of biomass into ethanol and biodiesel provides farmers
an additional market for their crops. Over the years, many
Luc
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol and Biodiesel Production - Small Scale
http://www.newrules.org/agri/smalleth.html
New Rules Project - Agriculture - Ethanol
Turning New York's Wood into the Energy of the Future
Jan 13, 2005
http://www.esf.edu/newspubs/news/2005/01.13.biorefinery.htm
State University of New York
college of Environmental Science and Forestry
SUNY-ESF's Biorefinery Process
We know our sources of fossil fuel aren't going to
Hello Greg,
Easy sources of cellulosic material can be found in waste vegetable
matter from their local supermarkets and produce terminals. Our local
terminal throws away from 20,000 to 40,000 pounds a day of produce. If
you check with a major super market, then you can have another great
Colorado, about an hour south of Denver.Summer or winter it's cool in
the basement.
Greg H.
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From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 17:03
Subject: RE: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel]
ethanol
You are very (very) close to some people I know out there.
Parker Co.
Luc
- Original Message -
From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel]
ethanol from wood
Nice place.
Greg H.
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 09:45
Subject: Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel]
ethanol from wood
G'day Greg;
You are very (very) close to some people I
SUNY researchers find way to make ethanol from wood
By WILLIAM KATES
Associated Press Writer
Jan 13, 2005
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Using nothing more than water,
State University of New York researchers have devised a
method for removing energy-rich sugars from wood
that can be used to produce
] On
Behalf Of MH
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood
SUNY researchers find way to make ethanol from wood
By WILLIAM KATES
Associated Press Writer
Jan 13, 2005
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Using nothing more than water,
State University of New
on this general subject and would appreciate
hearing your opinions.
- Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MH
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood
SUNY researchers find way
Dave,
snip
As it has been
explained to me, it is a matter of getting the enzymes cheap enough to
make it cost effective--one cannot make the enzymes themselves, they are
a product of biotech. Am I mistaken? What are the enzymes and where do
they come from?
snip
Enzymes are a product of nature,
of the processing plan.
Best wishes,
Peggy
Peggy G Korth
BioFuels Energy Corporation
(830) 885-7409 Voice
(830) 885-7416 Fax
(210) 288-0999 Cell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Email
Subject: Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel]
ethanol from wood
As it has been explained to me
self-sufficiency, distribution
logistics, and availability.
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood
SUNY researchers find way to make ethanol from wood
By WILLIAM KATES
Associated Press Writer
Jan 13, 2005
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Using nothing more than water,
State University of New York
, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel]
ethanol from wood
Hello Dave.
An application of cellulases is in the denim blue (jeans) laundery shop or
factory to make the stone washed effect on denim with dimished amout or
without stones, you might find global cheap providers of cellulases
a little more efficiently, the soluble sugars which are already present,
rather than hydrolyzing significant amounts of cellulose. Note that the
residue can be burned or gasified for
combined heat and power use
the residue is the wood chips sans sugars.
On the Net:
Peggy wrote:
, Paraguay
-Mensaje original-
De: Dave Shaw [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Jueves 20 de Enero de 2005 5:49 AM
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel]
ethanol
from wood
Hello,
Thanks for posting this. What do you think
Hello Greg,
The smallest volume in a mushroom complex can be the fruiting head.
Mycelia (projections similar to our ideas of roots) can extend for miles
and it is the mycelia that can be one of nature's greatest assets un
filtration and healthy biomass: forest maintenance, and good soil. And
Whether wood provides ethanol or methanol the
State University of New York
College of Environmental Science and Forestry
is looking into it --
[Biofuel] Methanol from Trees
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/39606/
[Biofuel] ethanol from wood
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel
: [Biofuel]
ethanol from wood
Hello Greg,
The smallest volume in a mushroom complex can be the fruiting head.
Mycelia (projections similar to our ideas of roots) can extend for miles
and it is the mycelia that can be one of nature's greatest assets un
filtration and healthy biomass: forest
.
Best Regards.
Juan Boveda
Pilar - Paraguay
-Mensaje original-
From: Greg Harbican [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE:
[Biofuel]
ethanol from wood
Did I
Apparently ethanol has 68% of the energy content of gasoline by volume
(8.9x10^7 J/gal vs. 1.3x10^8 J/gal). Therefore gasoline has 146% of the
energy content of ethanol by volume. This translates to 1 liter of gasoline
= 1.46 liters of ethanol. 46% more ethanol to equal a volume of
Undersand your coment on timing. Government in scandinavian countries
like Denmark are more efficient than in other parties of the world .
Five years is not much . In y country it would take about 25 years.
Very best for us
Chico
Arttu Aula wrote:
Apparently ethanol has 68% of the energy
injection at stock
settings. Some use ethanol in 2-stroke go-carts, they might know more about
the subject.
-Arttu
From: Octavian Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:59:23 +0200
Dear
Hello Arttu,
Thank you for this information.
Peggy
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines
Ethanol fuel is known to do 2 things in engines not designed for it:
corrode
rubber parts and draw water to itself from the air.
Manufacturers have taken the prior into consideration
Dear Sirs,
Can anybody tell me what kind of fuel mixture (ethanol based) can be used to
fuel 2-cycle engine and what modifications had to be made?
Best regards and thank you in advance,
Octavian Andronic
www.ariascooters.com
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
- Original Message -
From: Octavian Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines
Dear Sirs,
Can anybody tell me what kind of fuel mixture (ethanol based) can be used
to
fuel 2-cycle engine
May be of interest (again):
P.
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Re: ETHANOL USE IN DIESEL ENGINES
I know of using mixtures of ethanol with veg oil for diesel engines,
there
are some patents on it.
Here you can read about the mixture of castor oil and alcohol at the
United
States Patent Office online:
--- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unlike Biodiesel, ethanol wouldn't produce any
distinctive smell, so why
even worry about it ? Isn't the producion of alcohol
for personal use
untaxed, like when you make your own wine or beer ?
So, you make your own vodka :)
And as for the BD,
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 23:58
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Taxes
Home heating oil and diesel smell exactly the same to
me. And I've been told by the distributors that they
all come out of the same pipe - all the same stuff.
They put dye into the heating oil, so
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From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Taxes
The home heating oil and the diesel at thru pumps is the same, but for 2
minor differences.
Diesel at the pumps is Diesel #2
Home heating oil
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 08:13
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Taxes
Maybe it's kerosene then, 'cause when you follow a truck that has
supplemented his fuel there is a distinct smell that can be noticed
several
hundred meters aways. I had a MOT
fuel tax on biodiesel, however it would be an offence to run kero or heating
oil instead, go figure.
Luc
- Original Message -
From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Taxes
Kerosene
I know when blending using home grown biodiesel we are responsible for the road
taxes. Is ethanol taxed the same when blending with gasoline? I looked
through http://www.ethanol-gec.org but the legislation section seems to only
address some state legislation.
Anyone with some better links?
oil. All
they will get by following me is hungry :) :) !
Luc
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From: DHAJOGLO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:30 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Ethanol Taxes
I know when blending using home grown biodiesel we are responsible
Biofuels -- Biofuels are liquid transportation fuels
made from plant matter instead of petroleum.
http://www.eere.energy.gov/state_energy/technology_content.cfm?techid=8
Technology Overview -- Biodiesel, Ethanol, etc.
White lightning: Ethanol and Iogen:
Patrick Foody's 20-year ethanol itch pays off. Finally
Mar 18, 1998
http://www.nextcity.com/main/article/ep/98-03-18-ottawa.htm
CELLULOSE ETHANOL IS READY TO GO:
Iogen producing worldâs first cellulose ethanol fuel
Aug 05, 2004
Ron, can I ask where this new ethanol plant will be constructed and where you
attended these meetings? Thanks. Jonathan.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Folks,
Corn = Maize
I happened to attend an investor prospectus meeting last night for the
proposed construction of a 50 million gallon (189
Ron, can I ask where this new ethanol plant will be constructed and where
you attended these meetings? Thanks. Jonathan.
==
The proposed plant is in Minnesota and the equity fund raising meetings
occur within a hundred miles from the proposed plant
Folks,
Corn = Maize
I happened to attend an investor prospectus meeting last night for the
proposed construction of a 50 million gallon (189 million liters) ethanol
plant last night. Actually, I attended the same meeting near my hometown
last week and felt I didn't take good enough notes, so I
Is it less desirable than petroleum?
It depends. If it comes from ADM et al there might not be much difference.
Admittedly biodiesel has a better energy balance than ethanol, but
those of us who make biodiesel enjoy its fossil subsidies as well.
And don't we sometimes desire ethanol as
Does anybody know offhand the temp that Ethanol and Methanol decomposes at, I
just had a really weird idea.
Greg H.
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Hello Greg,
Methanol is CH3O [atomic mass 31 grams per mole] and ethanol C2H6O [46 g/M].
As you can see there is an oxygen atom in each molecule. Ethanol has
more energy than methanol because it has more bonds than methanol.
Plain old gasoline is just a series of carbon bonds such as C-C-C-C-C-C
for naturally aspirated
diesel engines at high altitudes?
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: Martin Klingensmith
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 21:08
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ethanol / Methanol mix
Hello Greg,
Methanol is CH3O [atomic mass 31 grams
In the last few days, I have been doing some checking, and I found that in 1990
there was experimentation into Eth / Meth alcohol mixes, that when added to
fuel, would increase the O2 content of the fuel up to 3.7% ( better than 11%
MTBE with 2% O2 ), decreasing associated pollutants.
Does
Hi Craig
Hi Keith
FirstlyThank you Keith for the very informative info you pointed out
on ethanol use in a gasoline motor.
You're most welcome, glad it helped.
Secondly..The amount of info I have managed to get by scounging a bit
deeper. I have learnt a yard full in such a short
Hi Craig
Hi chaps and lasses
Why can't I use methalated spirits in my petrol engine?
:-) Ah, the good old days... That'll need a translation for some of
the list members. Petrol = gasoline, a spark-ignition engine.
Is there any reason
other than it been more expensive than petrol? When I
Hi Keith
FirstlyThank you Keith for the very informative info you pointed out
on ethanol use in a gasoline motor.
Secondly..The amount of info I have managed to get by scounging a bit
deeper. I have learnt a yard full in such a short time.
At present I am building another 25
Hi chaps and lasses
Why can't I use methalated spirits in my petrol engine? Is there any reason
other than it been more expensive than petrol? When I looked at what makes
up meths. I found out it contains about 90% ethanol and about 5% methanol.
Could I get away with using meths, could anyone
Hi,
This story tonight from the same current affairs show that rubbished
ethanol only a year ago Im not sure you could be more polarised in
news reporting, is either all bad or all good. See my and others
previous posts. I was so frustrated I sent them an email describing
ethanol and
Hello,
Here in Australia there was a campain in the media about ethanol blends in
fuel destroying engines, so now no ethanol in fuel without clear marking on
fuel pumps, net result, general population formed to believe ethanol is bad for
engines. Very little was said for the environmental
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regards
Nick
P.S. I love my internal combustion engines and now I know that I can be
better for the environment and still play with them. Why push for alternative
energy when biofuel is a solution?
I have a question for anyone who is distilling and using their own
alcohol in a fuel injected vehicle. If the vehicle is running
straight alcohol, can you switch back over to gasoline if you needed
to? Example: If you go on vacation and you have a full tank of
alcohol to start, but you
j_schearer2000 wrote:
I have a question for anyone who is distilling and using their own
alcohol in a fuel injected vehicle.
How many people do you think are actually doing this? I haven't
heard of one, but when I do, I'd sure like to have a LONG talk!
If the vehicle is running
http://www.co2e.com/News/story.asp?StoryID=1628
01/04/2004: Taisei, Marubeni to Turn Construction Waste Into Car
Biofuel: Asia Pulse Pte Ltd
TOKYO, April 1 Asia Pulse - Five companies, including general
contractor Taisei Corp. (TSE:1801) and trading house Marubeni Corp.
(TSE:8002), will
Folks,
I'm curious if anybody on list has any tips or experience running the 2.2L
fuel injected Subaru Legacy engine on 100% ethanol. I have a 1990 Legacy
and would love to get it running on E100. Any tips or advice would be most
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Nathan McQuillen
Madison, WI USA
hi all
I'm looking for some info on manufacture of ethanol as a fuel
I also need info on how to convert an engin to run on it.
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hi all
I'm looking for some info on manufacture of ethanol as a fuel
I also need info on how to convert an engin to run on it.
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol.html
Ethanol
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html
Ethanol resources on the Web
A year or so ago someone here asked abt. ethanol futures - I then replied
that
there were no exchange-based futures, but that's abt. to change. On 07 May
ethanol
futures (options a few days later) will start trading @ the New York Board of
Trade.
Contract months will be March, May, July,
Hi,
I was just wondering if there are any small time ethanol producers in
North Eastern Pennsyvannia. I would like to produce enough ethanol myself
to run my cars on, but I live in an appartment where I can't. If someone
could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Al
Biofuel
x-charset ISO-8859-1Can Jatropha oil cakes be used for the production of
alcohol?
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Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation
My question is about registering with the Federal gov't for legal
distillation for fuel alcohol. If the individual goes through all
My question is about registering with the Federal gov't for legal
distillation for fuel alcohol. If the individual goes through all
the proper paper procedures and obtains the distillation permit, what
can one expect from the gov't after this?
The only paperwork that is required for an
in the alcohol buisness for over 5
years and the state and federal goverment have been very easy to work with.
W Scott
- Original Message -
From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation
If I
: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation
standard ethanol production is a bit more costly and timely than most people
think, as for the legal aspect of it there are a lot of records that must be
kept and yes you are open for federal inspection ( TTB ) as well as state
level alcohol inforcement, I have
x-charset ISO-8859-1My question is about registering with the Federal gov't
for legal
distillation for fuel alcohol. If the individual goes through all
the proper paper procedures and obtains the distillation permit, what
can one expect from the gov't after this? Are you only allowed to
If I remember right, inspections of the property that the permit is for,
anytime the BATF, wants to look around.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: j_schearer
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 05:00
Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation
New to the site but I'm very impressed with the quality of
information available here as well as the number of people involved.
Very encouraging to say the least...
I am curios if there are any 'gas' stations that sell pure ethanol. I
have heard that here in Massachusetts there are a couple
Luis,
Thank you for the nice judgement, my background is energy transmission and
comfort in building constructions. Within that field, me and my partners
have quite unique amount of knowledge and experiences. We have also been
involved with electricity generation. When it comes to Ethanol I
Dear Hakan and dear Membership:
Thanks very much for your comments. Your invitation write a document for
your web site is appreciated and I shall begin to
prepare one just as soon as possible.
Finally, many countries of the world have understood that ethanol
is an alternative fuel that has the
Dear Hakan:
Since I regard you as a respected authority in energy matters, I
would like to present the following scenario for your comment:
Subject: Fuel ethanol
1- In Colombia we can produce sugar cane crops equivalent to 240
MT cane/Ha/year with total sugar content of 22% in juice.
2- The
As I understand, the technical octane rating of Methanol and Ethanol are
comparable. But then again, my alcohol real-life experience is limited.
Though my instincts tell me that if the Max compression ratio of Meth and
Eth are different it's probably because the Methanol fuel mixture is so
csakima wrote:
Ethanol usually is run in a spark-ignition type engine. The type that
stock runs gasoline.
Modifications include changing the fuel-handling components to pass
ethanol without dissolving (since ethanol is a different type of solvent
than gas) richening the fuel
Cane Research Org.
Cali, Colombia
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- Original Message -
From: Edward Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol-Veggie Blend?
Can ethanol blended with pure vegetable oil
Operations
Fundacin Sugar Cane Research Org.
Cali, Colombia
Tel (572) 557-0627
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- Original Message -
From: Edward Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:57 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol-Veggie Blend?
Luis
Ethanol usually is run in a spark-ignition type engine. The type that
stock runs gasoline.
Modifications include changing the fuel-handling components to pass
ethanol without dissolving (since ethanol is a different type of solvent
than gas) richening the fuel mixture to accomadate
Can ethanol blended with pure vegetable oil be used as fuel for an unmodified
diesel engine?
I am a member of the Biofuels Research Cooperative in Sebastopol, California.
We collect recycled vegetable oil for our members for use as fuel for their
converted diesel vehicles. Our cars run on
Research Org.
Cali, Colombia
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- Original Message -
From: Edward Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol-Veggie Blend?
Can ethanol blended with pure vegetable oil be used as fuel
Is this true!?
All we have to do is fix a bunch of old cars and we can have all of the
ethanol running vehicles our society could ever desire?
What kind of an engine are we talking about? Gasoline? Diesel? Any
modifications?
Edward Mendoza
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
707.537.7392
211 Hayman Court
Dear Al:
I will try to answer some of the questions you ask to the Biofuel Forum
the best I can:
1. Has anyone ever used ethanol (or alcohol in general) as an octane
boost?
2. How much does ethanol raise the octane level of gasoline?
3. Has anyone tried running more than 10% ethanol.
:51:39 +0100
From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ethanol, Alcohol, Veg Oil
Ethanol is a kind of alcohol.
There are many kinds of alcohol. Ethanol is produced by yeast when they
eat sugar, and so
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Fred
On Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003, at 14:02 US/Eastern, Dan Maker wrote:
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Is anyone making progress on the reliability of this process, or
defining
the source oils that are easiest to crack with ethanol?
Will
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Fred
Fred,
No, I moved it to a different name after there were some conserns about
the content.
I'll email off list with a good URL.
Dan
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Jack of all trades, master of none.
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Ken Provost said:
Yes, I'm sure. If you got NO ethoxide ion, you'd get
no biodiesel. Ethanol will neither esterify nor trans-
esterify directly with oil, soap, or FFAs under alkaline
conditions -- only after ionization. Really clean oil
and really dry ethanol will make fine biodiesel
same with me, IRC will speed up your typing dramatically!!
James Slayden
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Dan Maker wrote:
snip
That's still WAY cool! Why make a professional call at
all, when you can IRC it and have a permanent record?
Still you have to be able to type fast, which my daughter
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