Hello Peter,
Yes, I too am inclined to do what I can to forward those who show an
earnest desire to move forward in my physical location. Fortunately, my
world view has the benefit of other juxtaposition-ing. Flying with
eagles and crawling with lizards with all the in-betweens allows more
Hi Peggy ;
I couldn't agree with you more. I tracked down some
hand powered bicycle carts I gave to some handicapped
people in Cambodia, and one guy with one arm was using
it to bring goods across the border for about $2 per
day. Imagine 1 arm powering this arm powered bicycle
cart. He was
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Behalf Of Guag Meister
Many times what people want and what is are not the
same.
Absolutely right, the consumer gets what they demand.
The consumer gets what the consumer demands. Sorry
out there but my feeling is the average consumer is
Hi Keith ;
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter, you've misunderstood me. I didn't say and
didn't mean that you
were angry.
Ok Keith, never mind this very minor thing. No problem
at all.
Dealing with the forces that interfere with and
manipulate human nature for
their own
Hi Gustl ;
It is my sincere hope that given the internet and
the possibility of
communicating with others in other countries that
we come to realize
that people in general all want the same thing for
themselves which is
peace and enough. Enough food, shelter, work,
friendship,
Hi Walt ;
Within living memory, China has taken
economic steps which
resulted in the deaths of millions of their own
citizens; I therefore
conclude that they wouldn't blush at taking steps
which diminished the
quality of life for Americans or Japanese.
Quite true. I am not a
Walt,
Do not worry, I do not think that China (or any other country) see US as a
major source of food for humans. It is almost unconceivable that they would
go to such efforts to secure corn supply for their own poultry production. LOL
Hakan
At 07:40 PM 12/30/2004, you wrote:
At 09:23 AM
Do not worry, I do not think that China (or any other country) see US as a
major source of food for humans. It is almost unconceivable that they
would go to such efforts to secure corn supply for their own poultry
production. LOL
I live in an agricultural county in the Pacific
Peter,
You live closer to it, but I have large difficulties to see that China
was behind the Cambodian Pol Pot philosophies. It was in its
essence an onslaught on education and knowledge, something
that is very difficult to identify with the policies of China.
China have during the last 50
Hi Hakan ;
I admit that I don't really know the whole story, so
anyone please feel free to correct me. I have many
Khmer friends, and I discuss this with them often.
From what I understand there were weekly flights to
Beijing for supplies and military strategists.
However (CS), this was only
: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
At 05:16 PM 12/30/2004, Hakan wrote:
Do not worry, I do not think that China (or any other country) see US
as a
major source of food for humans. It is almost unconceivable that they
would go to such efforts to secure
Sideshow - Nixon, Kissinger and the Secret Bombing of Cambodia, by
William Shawcross, is an excellent source. In Sideshow, journalist
Shawcross presents the first full-scale investigation of the secret
and illegal war the United States fought with Cambodia from 1969 to
1973, paving the way
Peter,
It is no doubt that Pol Pot was supported by the Chinese,
but you said in your original email that China was behind
the Pol Pot experiment and that it was some sort of experiment
on their behalf. In this sense I have my doubts on that the
equal sign is a valid one. Therefore I also have
Hi Hakan ;
--- Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I belive that Pol Pot was a Cambodian home cooked
lunatic,
that for global and regional reasons had the Chinese
support.
Yes you may very well be right.
Best Regards,
Peter G.
Thailand
Hello Keith and All ;
Keith wrote :
You really should check this out, IMHO, there's
no need to be so pessimistic, and I don't think it's
your nature.
I wouldn't say I was pessimistic, but I agree it may
appear that way.
I've been there, I was angry for years, angry about
all the callous
Hi All ;
Opps. Sorry if I forgot anybody (Walt). Happy New
Year to you all!!
Peter G.
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were angry. I was angry, I said you were pessimistic, and that indeed
you have been, or sadly frustrated, if you prefer. Check the quotes I
included. You despair of human goodwill and of the human capacity to
learn much-needed lessons, yet in another post you include in this
the critical
Saddam was
lunatic so he moved in.
CS
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From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China? - Cambodia.
Hi Hakan ;
I admit that I don't really know the whole story, so
Hi Keith ;
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter, you've misunderstood me. I didn't say and
didn't mean that you
were angry.
Ok Keith, never mind this very minor thing. No problem
at all.
Dealing with the forces that interfere with and
manipulate human nature for
their own
*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
Mike,
Out of curiosity, do you have a reference for the Mark Twain quote that
you use in your signature? The current Reader's Digest attributes
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I am
being a little too conservative with these percentages) of the items for
sale, at any given department store in America today, are made in
China? This question has bothered me for years.
There are those who
Hi Walt ;
Yes the potential for China to cause serious
disruption to the US economy is scary and increasing.
Lest anyone think that China is a 'friend of the US,
look at how China handled the US spyplane accident and
emergency landing in April 2001.Consider how
differently it would have
Walt,
It seems that China learned fast, from a game that US used to be quite good
at and still is. You only have to look at the post WWII economic and
corporate policies by US, which was based on utilizing a firm US control of
global oil resources. Things are changing and US have not yet
Peter,
I think that China handled themselves on this occasion. After all, US was
spying on them and it is other occasions. When US used commercial aircraft
against Russia, when they disappeared with passengers and all. Do not
forget that China also lost a plane and pilot, when they tried to
-
From: Walt Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
At 08:58 AM 12/29/2004, you wrote:
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I
am
being a little too conservative
.
- Original Message -
From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
Hi Walt ;
Yes the potential for China to cause serious
disruption to the US economy is scary
Hi Hakan ;
I think you have attached hidden meaning and you have
mis-understood my message, thereby diluting it and
causing mis-direction. I hate what the US is doing
around the world as much as anybody (is that a hate
crime?). I watch the mind-numbing apathy of the
average American, even
Hi CS ;
How many pair of
shoes must China sell to USA in exchange for a
Boeing 747?
Yes, but it is all part of the plan. Most Chinese
contracts come with strings that stipulate that parts
of the plane must be built in China and generally the
plane must be assembled in China. So Boeing
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Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
Hi Walt ;
Yes the potential for China to cause serious
disruption to the US economy is scary and
increasing.
Lest anyone think that China is a 'friend of
the US
snip
The flood of cheap goods from China accomplishes two
things. It causes a balance otf trade deficit (China
gets more dollars), and destroys US domestic
production capacity. When the flood of cheap goods
stops (which it will eventually), a lot of people will
be without because domestic
: [Biofuel] Made in China?
Hi Walt ;
Yes the potential for China to cause serious
disruption to the US economy is scary and
increasing.
Lest anyone think that China is a 'friend of
the US,
look at how China handled the US spyplane
accident and
emergency landing
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
Hi CS ;
How many pair of
shoes must China sell to USA in exchange for a
Boeing 747?
Yes, but it is all part of the plan. Most Chinese
contracts come with strings that stipulate that parts
of the plane must be built in China
Most Americans like Walt Patrick are victims of USA media reporting,
which unfortunately twist their facts depending on which lobby pays them in
Washington.
Here's an example of the twisty reporting that raises concerns.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26539
Japan murdered
millions of innocent people in the 2nd World War, more than the Nazis, yet
they have more nuclear power stations (2nd to France) than USA. For them to
convert to nuclear bombs and embarked on their military is like waiting for
history to repeat itself.
That's part of
Most Americans like Walt Patrick are victims of USA media reporting,
which unfortunately twist their facts depending on which lobby pays them in
Washington.
Here's an example of the twisty reporting that raises concerns.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26539
WorldNet
.
- Original Message -
From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:51 AM
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Hi Walt ;
Yes the potential for China to cause serious
disruption to the US
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
I have some Chinese buddy engineers born in the U.S.
and I have some Chinese buddy engineers born in
mainland China. I also have some UK buddy engineers
born in the UK and others
Hi CS ;
--- csc-propulsion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Boeing does no such thing. MD did make some of the
doors or some not
important part in the host country. The avionics and
the complete Boeing
plane is made in USA. Do not make wild guesses.
A quick google turned up :
Hi Phillip ;
--- Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have some Chinese buddy engineers born in the U.S.
and I have some Chinese buddy engineers born in
mainland China. I also have some UK buddy engineers
born in the UK and others born in the US; I have
Nicaragua buddy engineers born
Hi CS ;
--- csc-propulsion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From the US$2.00 paid to the Chinese contract
manufacturers, the Reebok or
Nikes are retailed for more than US$100.00. Who kept
the profit?
Let's be realistic. For all these products sold at
Walmart, who kept those
profits? The
Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
At 09:32 PM 12/29/2004, CS wrote:
Japan murdered
millions of innocent people in the 2nd World War, more than the Nazis,
yet
they have more nuclear power
, December 30, 2004 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
At 07:25 PM 12/29/2004, CS Chua wrote:
Most Americans like Walt Patrick are victims of USA media
reporting,
which unfortunately twist their facts depending on which lobby pays
them in
Washington.
Here's
Message -
From: csc-propulsion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
If you doesn't know the facts, then u should ask your Congressman why
the
Bush OK the takeover of Global Crossing by Singapore Telemedia
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
If you doesn't know the facts, then u should ask your Congressman why
the
Bush OK the takeover of Global Crossing by Singapore Telemedia?
If you do not know Li Ka Shing, then u should ask
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
Mike,
Out of curiosity, do you have a reference for the Mark Twain quote that
you use in your signature? The current Reader's Digest attributes it to
Tom Clancy, and I thought that they needed to be corrected.
Brian
Peter,
I did not meant to attach a hidden meaning, but I did try to
add some clarifications to the spy plane incident. If that
would have happened in Russia during the heights of the
cold war, which it actually did, the US pilots would have been
thrown in jail and used for large PR court cases,
Walt,
If one start to dump, the others will follow and it is not any
real gains in it, as long as US can be regarded as a good
security risk. The problem is more a question if the current
US leadership does what they have to do and do not bring
US to a situation were they will become a bad
-
From: csc-propulsion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
If you doesn't know the facts, then u should ask
your Congressman why
the
Bush OK the takeover of Global Crossing by
Singapore Telemedia
That's part of what makes the half trillion dollars held in
China's hands so problematic since Japan holds about the same amount of
US paper. If China dumps the dollar, that move will likely crash the
Japanese economy as well.
In short, from the Chinese perspective, it's a
-
From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?
Walt Patrick wrote:
That's part of what makes the half trillion dollars held in
China's hands so problematic since Japan holds about
Robert,
Demise would probably not be an adequate context. Subserviant,
dependant or beholding might better fit.
Todd Swearingen
Is that not already the case?
robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
Hallo Peter, Hakan, All,
One thing I think everyone should understand is that all governments
spy on one another. No one has clean hands in this area. The US
spied on China? So what? China spies on us and everyone else just
like everyone else. Espionage of one sort or another
washingtonpost.com
Chinese Workers Pay for Wal-Mart's Low Prices
Retailer Squeezes Its Asian Suppliers to Cut Costs
By Peter S. Goodman and Philip P. Pan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, February 8, 2004; Page A01
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Many Japanese companies also do this in China (and elsewhere), it's
Walt Patrick wrote:
That's part of what makes the half trillion dollars held in
China's hands so problematic since Japan holds about the same amount of
US paper. If China dumps the dollar, that move will likely crash the
Japanese economy as well.
In short, from the Chinese
What fine messages for the end of the year! And the beginning of the
next one. Thankyou!
I am far from perfect but would like to express to you
again that together we can make change and I think
that is probably why Journey to Forever website was
formed (thank you Keith and Midori).
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I am being
a little too conservative with these percentages) of the items for sale, at
any given department store in America today, are made in China? This question
has bothered me for years.
Is this simply a matter of
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think
I am being a little too conservative with these percentages) of the
items for sale, at any given department store in America today,
are made in China? This question has bothered me for years.
Is this simply a matter of
Dear Anti-Fossil and Readers:
The Wall Street Journal, Dec, 24 Issue and China Daily
have have related articles. It is a very complex
issue. Here is a summary:
--Editor of Start Magazine tried buying only U.S. made
goods for her Christmas and realized most items no
longer manufactured in the
Can someone please explain why it is that approx. 70 to 80% (I think I am being a little too conservative with these percentages) of the items for sale, at any given department store in America today, are made in China? This question has bothered me for years.
Is this simply a matter of
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