Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-11-02 Thread Jason and Katie
- Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method I went to Lazlo's page on the site you linked. Judging by the negative

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-11-01 Thread Jason and Katie
- Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method Hey Jason and Katie;Does your friend have a website? I'm sure his broadcasts

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-11-01 Thread Joe Street
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method Hey Jason and Katie; Does your friend have a website? I'm sure his broadcasts are out of my listening range but I'm very interested

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-31 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
://KinsleyForPrez08.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Jason and Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-31 Thread Joe Street
Hey Jason and Katie; Does your friend have a website? I'm sure his broadcasts are out of my listening range but I'm very interested in that kind of stuff. There were some audio recordings as early as the late 1800's but I doubt you will find a recording of that type from 1906. I wish. Joe

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-30 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
- Original Message - From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul S Cantrell wrote: The last 2

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-30 Thread Jason and Katie
Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmen

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Well time for a new thread I guess cause we are a long way off topic. I think you are right Zeke it's hard not to draw certain conclusions about the people who put these monsters in office. The problem is it's like going shopping. You think you have choice but then you find out your money goes

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What if we had a voting sytem like American Idol, where people can text message their votes every night Sort of scary. But is it scarier to think of a democracy where the average person could vote on each issue, or one where as many people follow TV shows as care about their actual

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Paul S Cantrell
It would still favor the richer people, unless the poor were well organized and voted in blocks. The minority has protections in the Constitution. The representative Republic we have in the US was setup by rich landowners for rich landowners and it hasn't changed that terribly much since then.

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Zeke; A democratic system modelled after a TV show. That is just perfect. Why not? (shakes head sadly) TV is the basis for everything almost it seems. Well as long as a large percentage of people vote it might be good. (I invite criticizm here please) The larger the voting population the

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Paul S Cantrell wrote: It'd be the best reality TV show yet! American Idol: The West Wing...Yes, Very Scary! It would still favor the richer people, unless the poor were well organized and voted in blocks. The minority has protections in the Constitution. The representative

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Chip Mefford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul S Cantrell wrote: The last 2 elections would have probably gone the other way if it were simple majority. I think the concerns over time zones and the like could be worked out and we might have more than 2 twin parties. Personally, I think

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Personally, I think some simple changes would fix a lot of whatis currently borked in the US political system. Debates forinstance, pretty much all public debating (meaning televised)is done of, by and for the Twin Partys. This should cease immediately. This much of the system process would

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Weaver
What debates? No one debates. The moderator pitches one question, which is ignored, and the candidates answers another in general platitudes. There is no debate. Paul S Cantrell wrote: Chip, On 10/27/05, *Chip Mefford* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Keith Addison
What if we had a voting sytem like American Idol, where people can text message their votes every night Sort of scary. But is it scarier to think of a democracy where the average person could vote on each issue, Lots of arguments about that in the past. Typical American answer: There is

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread robert luis rabello
Mike Weaver wrote: What debates? No one debates. The moderator pitches one question, which is ignored, and the candidates answers another in general platitudes. There is no debate. I agree. Compare the quality of the debate between Nixon and Kennedy with the most recent

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Or compared to the political debates of a hundred years ago when people would come out and sit for hours to listen to debates. Neil Postman talks about this in his book Amusing ourselves to death. Joe robert luis rabello wrote: Mike Weaver wrote: What debates? No one debates.