What debates? No one debates. The moderator pitches one question, which is ignored, and the candidates answers another in general platitudes. There is no debate.
Paul S Cantrell wrote: > Chip, > > On 10/27/05, *Chip Mefford* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote: > > Personally, I think some simple changes would fix a lot of what > is currently borked in the US political system. Debates for > instance, pretty much all public debating (meaning televised) > is done of, by and for the Twin Partys. This should cease > immediately. This much of the system process would be > well served by true open debate, including by design > "third" or "fringe" party candidates. I think this alone > would be easy to handle under law. I think it could > make a huge difference. > > > I agree completely...They refused to let Nader in the debates which I > think would have further shown how similar the twin parties are...Both > parties have become conglomerations of extremists and moderates that > better approximate 4 or 5 parties that caucus together. > > I concurr that the electoral college system is also > borked, however, the "simple majority" system is > also deeply flawed. > > Folks try to look at things as if there were red > and blue "states" (because it's the state vote > that counts). But it isn't red and blue states, > it's urban vs rural. > > http://brianhayes.com/2005/09/red-blue-rural-urban.html > > in a "popular" election, the urbanites would > win outright. Policy would be set by those > living furthest from the elemental necessities > of existance. > > > This is very interesting...http://www.urbanarchipelago.com > is...ummm...interesting, too, but divisive...My question is, > realistically, if we do away withe electoral college, won't more of > these urbanites realize that their votes count and go out and actually > vote? Like here in South Carolina, many non-republicans stay home > because they feel their vote doesn't count because SC is a "red state" > > blah blah blah. The Twin Party system is very > much a very real problem. imho, the democrats > have nothing to offer, they (at the top > tiers) represent a life that I know little > of. The republicans have nothing to offer, > they (at the top tiers) represent a power > structure that has no grasp on what the > philosophic "common man" has to face in > day to day life, AT ALL. The Libertarians > (with a capitol L) have become the party > of "I've got mine, and whatever I do to > keep it is okay, you don't matter, at all". > > America, the US, is hardly a united states > at all. It is a chain (as it's nicely worded in > the Urban Archipelago) of islands. > > I'm just old enough to have spent a few formative > years hitchhiking around America, in some ways > too many years, in other ways, not enough. But > "in those days" people still hitchhiked, and still > met all kinds of folks. Now, no one hitchhikes, > but everyone jabbers on cellphones, ignoring the > person standing next to them in line. > > blah blah blah. > > > I'm jealous of your opportunity to do so...Things really changed in the > '80's didn't they? > > I like your use of the word 'borked'...I may have to use that...Maybe > 'Miers' will come to mean bleeding incompetence and cronyism? > -- > Thanks, > PC > > He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch > > History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have > exhausted all other alternatives. - Abba Eban > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
