[biofuel] Biodiesel - Fuel consumption is higher.

2003-03-09 Thread kavitha palaniappan
I prepared Biodiesel by transesterifying Mahua oil and used it in an engine. The concentration of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, hydrocarbons, oxides of nitrogen and smoke in the exhaust emissions reduced to a considerable extent when compared to diesel. But, the fuel consumption

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread girl_mark_fire
I'd vote for copper for a few reasons too (though if you ever see a copper mine you might think I'm the devil for recommending this. Check out the Phelps-Dodge copper mine in Clifton-Morency (?) Arizona for one- I think it;s the biggest open pit copper mine in the us or in the world or

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread girl_mark_fire
Don't forget about methane digesters and human (or animal, vegetable, or anything in between) waste. Someone in my social circle apparently replaced their (urban) bathroom toilet with a marine macerator toilet which pumps the human waste into a methane digester- which produces gas (and

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread murdoch
influencing people (which she was VERY good at). So she had some place that she went to up on the hillside somewhere, I'd see her going off there sometimes but never figured just where it was. I'm sure any dog is capable of learning such things. Apparently, she didn't just learn such a thing.

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread vern_hendershott
Many dogs can be taught to do their business in the prescribed place much like cats that have been taught to use the human facilities. The problem that I have not seen solved is one of a flushing system that works in a facility that would resemble a shower stall to accommodate both gender of

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM influencing people (which she was VERY good at). So she had some place that she went to up on the hillside somewhere, I'd see her going off there sometimes but never figured just where it was. I'm sure any dog is capable of learning such things. Apparently, she didn't just learn such

[biofuel] Re: protest

2003-03-09 Thread motie_d
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or would you just get a lackey with a self-esteem problem who's happy to take it out on anyone not toeing whatever line he cares to draw? Keith Hi Keith, You have distilled the problem down to it's basic

[biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread motie_d
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked a plumber today what he would look for in buying a new house. He said: 1. No slab dwellings with plumbing built-in (apparently a going- strong method around here) because when the plumbing goes bad, how do you

[biofuel] Re: protest

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or would you just get a lackey with a self-esteem problem who's happy to take it out on anyone not toeing whatever line he cares to draw? Keith Hi Keith, You have distilled the problem down to it's basic

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Doug Foskey
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:31, you wrote: Many dogs can be taught to do their business in the prescribed place much like cats that have been taught to use the human facilities. The problem that I have not seen solved is one of a flushing system that works in a facility that would resemble a shower

Re: [biofuel] OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear MM, Modern sustainable plumbing does not really exist, but I can give you some guide lines in how to judge an existing plumbing. If the house is to your liking, then the plumbing is a secondary problem and it is more of a question to judge the extend and the costs of fixing it. It is all

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
I sometimes joke about this, Dogs are like men, they have to be trained to keep clean and we all know how difficult that is. Cats are like women, they have an instinct of keeping them nice and clean. You will only have to have a box of sand and they will use it without training, as long as you

Re: [biofuel] Re: VW Diesel Warranty exclusions!!

2003-03-09 Thread Steve Spence
why hemp? no commercial biodiesel is made from hemp. It's not a very good oil producer. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Cole [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread murdoch
The new plastic pipes, if you use the proper ones in a proper way, make it more possible to do installations with higher average life span than 45 years. It is only a few manufacturers of adequate pipes for this. Since you are buying an existing house, I will not bore you with the considerations

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread murdoch
Maybe. Considering all the lab tests with rats and so on where they have to pull a lever or something to get food once they've been good little rats and done what they're supposed to, it shouldn't be too hard to get a dog to step on a flush lever once it's done. Preferably into a composting

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: Enigma diesel-electric hybrid prototype

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
This is the problem with cross-posting, or one of them... finnloag cross-posted Darryl McMahon's Biofuel message about building his hybrid to the Biodiesel list, saying quite clearly where it had come from and even giving the message url: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/21364

Re: [biofuel] Re: VW Diesel Warranty exclusions!!

2003-03-09 Thread David Hodge
Actually, unless the dealer actually PUTS IT IN WRITING that running BD will void the warranty, you're fine. The dealer is just ignorant. VW would have a hard time voiding a warranty for a fuel that is classified as an acceptable alterative fuel by the federal government. dave --- Cole

[biofuel] reprocessing biodiesel

2003-03-09 Thread Jack Kenworthy
Here are the results of my other reprocessing tests. 1st - I used 3.5g lye and 200 ml Methanol - the biodiesel cleared and another 80-100 ml of glycerol settled out. The biodiesel on top has the appearance of clarity , but it also looked like it has a bit of methanol still left in that

Hemp was Re: [biofuel] Re: VW Diesel Warranty exclusions!!

2003-03-09 Thread Appal Energy
No. It's not. But it is perhaps the highest bio-mass producer that also yields edible oil, meal.and fiber. It stands the greatest chance of succeeding economically as a biomass crop due to its multiple co-products and overall yields, if only the United States government would get out of the way.

Re: [biofuel] Re: VW Diesel Warranty exclusions!!

2003-03-09 Thread Darald Bantel
On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 06:15, Steve Spence wrote: why hemp? no commercial biodiesel is made from hemp. It's not a very good oil producer. Steve Spence A very good source of combustable energy for on site power generation though!!! Darald Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

[biofuel] NEWS

2003-03-09 Thread kirk
soy news http://www.thesoydailyclub.com/BiodieselBiobased/news.asp [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to

RE: [biofuel] OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread kirk
Don Lancaster pretty much published the realities of patents. Besides, if you patent an earthshaker it will be quashed. If you make it public domain all will benefit and your standard of living will raise too. You can't be cheated out of that. Kirk -Original Message- From: murdoch

RE: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread kirk
H. I know some people who could use a box of sand. Thanks for the suggestion Hakan. Kirk -Original Message- From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 5:54 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing I sometimes

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Re: Enigma diesel-electric hybrid prototype

2003-03-09 Thread Darryl McMahon
Thank you Keith. You are correct, I am not subscribed to the biodiesel list. snip ... and, comes a reply to the Biodiesel list, addressing Darryl. Who's probably not there, or he's never posted there. Anyway, here it is, with finnloag's original message below: Thanks also to Jim (JKline)

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Greg and April
My sister has a Pekinese, that she keeps in the bathroom, when she goes out for any length of time, and that dog will jump into the tub and do it's business there. There is no reason that a shower pan would not work as well as a tub, just check it and hose it off every day. Greg H. -

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Re: Enigma diesel-electric hybrid prototype

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Thank you Keith. You are correct, I am not subscribed to the biodiesel list. You're welcome Darryl - hey, you don't even have to pay for the postage stamp. g So I'll post this back again. Keith snip ... and, comes a reply to the Biodiesel list, addressing Darryl. Who's probably not

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Re: Enigma diesel-electric hybrid prototype

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Thank you Keith. You are correct, I am not subscribed to the biodiesel list. You're welcome Darryl - hey, you don't even have to pay for the postage stamp. g So I'll post this back again. Uh, no I won't, you cc'd it, excellent. Keith Keith snip ... and, comes a reply to the Biodiesel

Re: Hemp was Re: [biofuel] Re: VW Diesel Warranty exclusions!!

2003-03-09 Thread Steve Spence
not much chance of that happening. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Greg and April
There is one thing to say for plastic piping, it acts as a carbon sink. Now if the carbon used, can be taken from renewable sources, we could eliminate some greenhouse gas. Greg H. - Original Message - From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday,

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable plumbing

2003-03-09 Thread Greg and April
How about a simple photocell, timer, and solenoid valve setup, like they have in some restrooms at some airports? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 02:10 Subject: [biofuel] Re: OT: sustainable

[biofuel] Those Crazy Peaceniks

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Those Crazy Peaceniks http://click.topica.com/maaaThkaaWmvsbakfNTb/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL

Re: Hemp was Re: [biofuel] Re: VW Diesel Warranty exclusions!!

2003-03-09 Thread Appal Energy
While I certainly won't hold my breath, we'll see it in our lifetime...presuming we're permitted to live a normal lifetime out. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Hemp

Re: [biofuel] Those Crazy Peaceniks

2003-03-09 Thread Appal Energy
Too cool... and too true... :-( - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: [biofuel] Those Crazy Peaceniks Those Crazy Peaceniks http://click.topica.com/maaaThkaaWmvsbakfNTb/ Biofuel at

[biofuel] Evenhandedness

2003-03-09 Thread Donald Strong
Aloe, Keith: I've just read a speech by Charles Krauthammer that balances some of the Bush-Washington bashing you've given so much space to. Prehaps your readers would be interested in a resoned view from the other side. It's being forwarded from the Hillsdale College site separately.

[biofuel] Imprimis - Hillsdale College

2003-03-09 Thread dsstrong
Keith: I found an issue of Imprimis on the Hillsdale College website that I thought you'd like to see: http://www.hillsdale.edu/newimprimis/2003/january/default.htm Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives:

[biofuel] Re: Hemp

2003-03-09 Thread murdoch
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:29:55 -0500, you wrote: No. It's not. But it is perhaps the highest bio-mass producer that also yields edible oil, meal.and fiber. It stands the greatest chance of succeeding economically as a biomass crop due to its multiple co-products and overall yields, if only the

[biofuel] Technology Review MIT's Magazine of Innovation

2003-03-09 Thread murdoch
As critical as this sort of innovation is, and as challenging, I believe it is much *less* challenging than the socio-political-theory challenges of creating thriving competitive markets in power, energy, transportation, etc. Such an innovation as this, if pursued aggressively, alongside many

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hemp

2003-03-09 Thread Brian Kelly
Hemp Continued Hemp is a great multi-use crop. It produces 4x the amount of paper fiber per acre compared to trees. It is great for protein and essential fatty acids, and thousands of industrial, sustainable uses. Kentucky used to have the most roductive hemp strain in the world. It also has

[biofuel] Request for engine info

2003-03-09 Thread Ed
Howdy Gang, I have a little question with which I'll bet someone here has some experience. I'd like a small.1/4 to one hp engine ..which could run on a renewable fuel. I work with ethanol, so I'd really like to use something like 95 percent ethanol and 5 percent biodiesel. Nothing in stone

[biofuel] hack64.pdf

2003-03-09 Thread kirk
Good thermo description Kirk http://www.tinaja.com/glib/hack64.pdf [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to

RE: [biofuel] Re: Hemp

2003-03-09 Thread HempCycle Webmaster
Hi Brian - Please forward your powerpoint presentation this way. I'll definitely make good use of it. Will Dwyer, Director Hempcycle www.hempcycle.org -Original Message- From: Brian Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:25 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

Re: [biofuel] Evenhandedness

2003-03-09 Thread Appal Energy
Reason is great and highly lauded. But all the wrong reasons should not be applauded.. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Donald Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: [biofuel] Evenhandedness Aloe, Keith: I've

Re: [biofuel] Imprimis - Hillsdale College

2003-03-09 Thread Appal Energy
One thing is for absoloute certain. The man would never work well in a room or common course ruled by concensus. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: [biofuel] Imprimis - Hillsdale College

Re: [biofuel] Evenhandedness

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Donald Aloe, Keith: I've just read a speech by Charles Krauthammer that balances some of the Bush-Washington bashing you've given so much space to. Prehaps your readers would be interested in a resoned view from the other side. It's being forwarded from the Hillsdale College site

Re: [biofuel] Evenhandedness

2003-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello again Donald Aloe, Keith: I've just read a speech by Charles Krauthammer that balances some of the Bush-Washington bashing you've given so much space to. Prehaps your readers would be interested in a resoned view from the other side. It's being forwarded from the Hillsdale College

[biofuel] List of ThermoNet Tutorials

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